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Post# 381557 , Reply# 1   9/26/2009 at 14:26 (5,296 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)   |   | |
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Post# 381559 , Reply# 2   9/26/2009 at 14:31 (5,296 days old) by frapdoodle ()   |   | |
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i dont mean to sound like an ass, so if i do forgive me. but i know what " semi-automatic" means i was just wondering how this was |
Post# 381565 , Reply# 3   9/26/2009 at 15:29 (5,296 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 381566 , Reply# 4   9/26/2009 at 15:39 (5,296 days old) by frapdoodle ()   |   | |
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idk. maybe and does anyone know where i can find a vid of that thor washer with a washplate. at least i think it was a thor |
Post# 381577 , Reply# 5   9/26/2009 at 16:38 (5,296 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)   |   | |
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Is this the video of the Thor that you were asking about? Mike CLICK HERE TO GO TO dishwashercrazy's LINK |
Post# 381579 , Reply# 6   9/26/2009 at 16:51 (5,296 days old) by frapdoodle ()   |   | |
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er....no the one im talking about has a washplate at the bottom of the tub im pretty sure its a Thor |
Post# 381583 , Reply# 7   9/26/2009 at 18:01 (5,296 days old) by ptcruiser51 (Boynton Beach, FL)   |   | |
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In the bungalow colony where my parents had a cottage I recall at least two of our neighbors had wringer machines with a timer that shut the agitation off after a set time. The machines still had to be filled and pumped-out manually. My mom had a semi-automatic top-loader. See my profile for an explanation. I think Robert has/had one of these. |
Post# 381586 , Reply# 8   9/26/2009 at 18:40 (5,296 days old) by frapdoodle ()   |   | |
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Thats A Good Idea actually i think that they should start making the wringer washing machine design again who agrees with me |
Post# 381590 , Reply# 9   9/26/2009 at 18:56 (5,296 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Were called "semi-automatic" as the washing would stop once the timer ended. One still had to transfer laundry to the spinner thus one thinks that is where the "semi" comes from. Fully automatic washing machines washes, rinses and spins dry without any furhter input from the user, aside from setting cycle choices at the start. Madame comes back at the end of the cycle and her wash is done. Semi-automatic washing machines leave out one or more automated steps, thus the user has more interaction. Obviously it is not possible to have a fully automatic wringer washing machine (how would one get the laundry into the mangles?), but a timer can be added to start and stop the agitator. Early wringer washing machines did not have timers. One activated the agitator and it kept going until one turned it off. Thus one could wash (or rinse)laundry for one minute or one hour.... By the final years of production, many wringers, including those by Speed Queen did offer timers on some models. This was probably done to compete with fully automatic washing machines rapidly taking over market share. Even a semi-automatic washing machine allowed a housewive to get on with other tasks rather than standing over or by a washing machine to operate controls. It also prevented damage to laundry left at the mercy of those agitators for too long. If Madame went away and forgot about her washing on a standard non-automatic washing machine, she may return to find her washing beaten to threads. |
Post# 381605 , Reply# 11   9/26/2009 at 20:23 (5,296 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Check eBay, Craigslist and the like, usually the problem is always the same; the washer one wishes is never close by thus will require shipping. However several members are speaking highly of a man with a truck who will ship large appliances. Failing that there is Uship and Craters and Freighters. The later being the creme de la creme of shipping large items, but one will pay (often dearly), for the service. On the upside your unit is packaged within an inch of it's life and shipped with very high standards. |
Post# 381607 , Reply# 12   9/26/2009 at 20:25 (5,296 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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The only advantage one can see with a wringer is perhaps a larger washing capacity, and lack of tangling. One still would have all the wash day drama of handling soaking wet laundry between on or more tubs. Have toyed with the idea of snagging a wringer, to use for large items not suited either to the Miele or Hoover, but am not really sure. L. |
Post# 381611 , Reply# 14   9/26/2009 at 20:48 (5,296 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)   |   | |
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"automatics, properly used, are safer." L/Mb |
Post# 381612 , Reply# 15   9/26/2009 at 20:54 (5,296 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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A person has to get themselves worked up to doing more than one wash load with the thing. Yes, there is lot of wash day drama, but after awhile that wears off and one is left with all that splashing of water, wet floors, wash day hands, and a massive headache from all the noise. Both twin tubs and wringers do call for one to perhaps slightly adjust what one considers enough rinsing. Oh the fist few loads aren't a problem, but after a bit one does tire of the process. There is also, at least in my experience, mangling and twin tub spinning do cause lots of creasing of fabrics. This in turn leads to lots of ironing afterwards. L. |
Post# 381616 , Reply# 17   9/26/2009 at 21:10 (5,296 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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...means you don't handle the laundry at all until it is done. Twin tubs were never considered semi automatic here (though other Australians should feel free to comment) as there was always some handling of the laundry before it was done. Australian machines, particularly earlier Simpsons, probably reflect this better than most as the machines tend to look like a normal automatic but you need to switch between components of the cycle. Leon, and possibly Nathan, have excellent examples of 'true' semi automatic machines. As an example of how they work you would select each part of the cycle by turning the dial Fill - hot/warm/cold wash - with detergent spin - to remove suds fill - cold or warm (plus manually add conditioner if required) wash - to rinse spin - to finish I am fairly certain that there was no timer at all involved that would halt the action of the machine...though I can't be 100% sure as I have a vague memory of a 'twist' style kitchen timer on the window sill in the laundry At this point you remove and hang.... This is from another post and is identical to my grans. |
Post# 381631 , Reply# 18   9/26/2009 at 22:40 (5,296 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Any washing machine that does not automatically wash, rinse, and spin dry (with the machine handling the changes of water/filling/draining), is a semi-automatic washing machine. To put it another way, any washing machine that requires user intervention to get from putting in soiled laundry, to arriving at spun (or wrung out), laundry is semi-automatic. Wringers, twin tubs, even some small top loading washing machines that one had to fill with a hose for washing and rinsing, are all semi-automatic. In commercial terms, there were automatic washers that did just that, washed and rinsed laundry. Laundry had to be removed to an extractor to be spun dry. However since the washer did do all the cycles without input from the user, it was an automatic "washer". If it went on to spin the laundry dry it would have been an "washer-extractor". L. |
Post# 381635 , Reply# 19   9/26/2009 at 23:10 (5,296 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Maybe from a North American perspective, but certainly not for most people here. If you asked an Australian who wanted an automatic if they had to choose either a wringer/twin-tub or a semi-automatic, they would choose a semi-automatic and they would expect a machine that looked like an automatic, but where they controlled the steps...AND they didn't get their hands wet or have to touch the laundry until it was finished. Most people in North America went from either a wringer or twin-tub to an automatic. That didn't always happen here as we had semi-automatics that filled a much needed niche in our market. Just as wringers and twin-tubs were a huge step up from doing the whole process manually, in Australia, a semi automatic was one step again between a manual machine and a full automatic. This was brought about primarily because of the very high cost of appliances here. Much of that cost was the 'automatic' part - timers. So the manufacturers here brought out true semi-automtics where you didn't touch the actual washing until it is finished, but still needed to turn a switch to change from one process to another. Wringers and twin-tubs do not work like this. You cannot complete the whole cycle without actually moving the washing at least twice. That is, from the wash to the wringer/spinner, back into the wash tub to rinse (some twin-tub spinners and Nth AMerican dual tub machines excepted...you only have to touch it once there)and then back through a wringer or the spinner after it was rinsed. Regardless, my point is you had to actually move the washing out of the tub at some point in the process. Most Australians would consider this to be a manual process/step and, as a result, a manual washing machine. A true semi-automatic removed this step and meant that you could wash, rinse and spin without touching the wet washing but still had to control the steps. |
Post# 381641 , Reply# 20   9/27/2009 at 00:14 (5,296 days old) by frapdoodle ()   |   | |
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i want a wringer but im in the mountains and my mom would say no |
Post# 381642 , Reply# 21   9/27/2009 at 00:28 (5,296 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 381643 , Reply# 22   9/27/2009 at 00:32 (5,296 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 381649 , Reply# 23   9/27/2009 at 02:26 (5,296 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 381665 , Reply# 24   9/27/2009 at 04:47 (5,295 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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A semi automatic wringer washer overhere in Europe would mean a wringer washer that heats the water up to the desired temperature and then starts washing like this Miele 75T
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Post# 381672 , Reply# 25   9/27/2009 at 06:30 (5,295 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 381700 , Reply# 27   9/27/2009 at 11:25 (5,295 days old) by soberleaf ()   |   | |
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they're a hell of a lot more fun to watch than a cell phone!!! you don't see a "cellphone.org" out there on the web! there is a reason for that! |
Post# 381759 , Reply# 29   9/27/2009 at 17:46 (5,295 days old) by soberleaf ()   |   | |
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what a great price that is! |
Post# 381771 , Reply# 31   9/27/2009 at 20:17 (5,295 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Lehman's has the "new" SQ wringer washers, called "Home Queen", and are built in Saudi Arabia. While based on the old Speed Queen wringer design, the machines are from the old manual/gravity drain models. No pump is available. Gravity drain wringers weren't a problem when units were located either in basements, or on a porch, or even outside (as when used on a farm). One simply lowered the drain hose into a floor drain, or onto the ground (to use the water for say watering plants, or even cleaning the porch). Failing either, one had to drain into buckets and dump the water where ever (slop sinks, up the stairs and out the back door, or god only knows). As more homes began to have either dedicated laundry areas, and or women wished to do laundry in the kitchen by rolling the machine near the sink, pumps were added to drain wash water by force. CLICK HERE TO GO TO launderess's LINK |
Post# 381955 , Reply# 34   9/28/2009 at 20:22 (5,294 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Over the years, Leon has shown several true semi's: A Pulsamatic and Kelvi' wobbler come immediately to mind. So until the Supreme Washer Court makes its ruling, I'm laying my money with the Aussies. They have fleets of Semi's down under. My apologies if it is not Leon. A semi-automtaic looks like an automatic, and you do not have to move wet clothes around, but you have to tell the machine what to do. I have referred to my Norge and Visimatic as semi-automatic because they shut themselves off, after washing OR draining, but I've always known they weren't really semi's. In America, we had the Thor, and another machine which squeezed the clothes in a rubber collapsable tub, by Bendix, I believe. Everything being regional, we never called our Easy Spin's semi's, the most popular machine before the coming of the automatics. And that's all she wrote. "how can...." Are you the young'un who wanted to see Maytag wringers. Here ya go, Buddy. It's my home-made Maytag Twin-tub semi-automatic ;'D ;'D ;'D |
Post# 381959 , Reply# 35   9/28/2009 at 20:33 (5,294 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Hey mickey Yes, you're right.....both Nathan and I have semi-automatic washers. Here's a link to my 1968 Simpson Fluid Drive semi automatic in action.....a TRUE Semi automatic washing machine for those who don't undertstand the concept. Cheers Leon CLICK HERE TO GO TO mayfan69's LINK |
Post# 382051 , Reply# 36   9/29/2009 at 14:53 (5,293 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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*LOL* But just as an aside, whilst reading my vintage box of "All" detergent (with Bleach, Borax and Brighteners), only top loading and front loading washing machines are referred to as "automatic". Wringer and spinner washing machines are called just that under the detergent dosing directions. Pipe snap from a recent fLeaBay auction: |
Post# 382065 , Reply# 37   9/29/2009 at 16:11 (5,293 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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We never really experienced the semi-automatic wave here in America. Again, as far as this washophile knows, there was the Thor and the Bendix. The fact of their rarity is proven not only by your lovely ad, but by their lack among American club members, with only Ross having a Thor, and Robert (?) having the Bendi Squeezer. Forgive me for omitting anyone. All the semi's are enjoyed by the Aussies. We English and Yankees had the twin tubs and spinners, after the wringers before the Automatics, with a lot of cross-breeding, of course. But isn't it all wonderful and interesting the way the Australian machines are as unusual as their flora and--mainly--fauna Great thread, there, in your link, Leon. Thanks for such a nice treat with afternoon tea. So satisfying, and so nice to see you and Cimberlie again. |
Post# 382165 , Reply# 38   9/30/2009 at 03:23 (5,293 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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If you mentioned Semi-Automatic here again its likely to be the Thor Parnall top loader type machines, look like a toploader but you control manually!!! Keith here (Keymatic) has the original Thor and the later model that looks very much like the Hotpoint Top Loaders!!! Heres Keiths early Thor Spin Washer that takes the Dishwasher Basket!!! |