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Why does everyone think Maytag is so great?
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Post# 385348   10/14/2009 at 18:14 (5,300 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Yes, I know. By far, Maytag helical drive washers are the most reliable well built washer EVER. Please don't shoot me for saying this though, they just don't have the fun factor of some other brands like Frigidaires or Speed Queen. They are plain and unadored. Don't get me wrong, they have a classiness about them, but they aren't "pizzazi".They never even had an automatic extra rinse option. What's your take?




Post# 385349 , Reply# 1   10/14/2009 at 18:22 (5,300 days old) by rickr (.)        
No collection should be without....

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A nice set of vintage Maytags. True, they are not really exciting to operate, but they are in a class by themselves. The styling just screams 1950's. Even the ones from the late 70's have that so cool vintage look.

These are mine from 1958


Post# 385350 , Reply# 2   10/14/2009 at 18:24 (5,300 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Now THOSE Rick are really exiting, the pink and the florescent glow.Kewl!

Post# 385351 , Reply# 3   10/14/2009 at 18:26 (5,300 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Much better up close and personal!

Post# 385352 , Reply# 4   10/14/2009 at 18:26 (5,300 days old) by rickr (.)        
My other set...

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From 1978.

These were courtesy of Kennny (Goatfarmer) to use in the "summer home"


The centre dial Maytags are must for any collection, IMO.
Great to start out with, because they are simple, usually easy to put back into regular service, and still fairly easy to find for little $$.


Post# 385355 , Reply# 5   10/14/2009 at 18:30 (5,300 days old) by rickr (.)        
This is for Kenny.

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Up close and personal?? Here you go!

They are just "cute" ya know what I'm sayin? <:


Post# 385358 , Reply# 6   10/14/2009 at 18:36 (5,300 days old) by brettsomers ()        

Vintage Maytag is not about dazzle and bling. To compare vintage Maytag to flashier, splashier machines is like comparing Dusty Springfield to Beyonce.

Post# 385368 , Reply# 7   10/14/2009 at 19:42 (5,300 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I dont know either

I was raised around Maytags, and have never been the least bit impressed,they are built like tanks true,they last true and they are quiet true, but to me...and dont get mad Maytag fans..they just dont wash very well at all,Growing up we had Frigidaires, a 55 Pulsamatic, and when I was 4 in 1969 my mom traded it on a Custom deluxe,Jet Action, My next door neighbor had a 63 Lady Kenmore, my moms sister had a 67 606 large capacity Maytag, well of course it didn't take me long to watch each of these in action,the result was the Kenmore and Frigidaire had a lot more action, especially with a large load,the clothes in the Maytag just seemed to swish back and forth, never really doing anything, moms Frigidaire, loaded much more heavily rolled those clothes like mad, even the Kenmore seemed much better, so this is why I have never been a fan of Maytag.....of course if you want the BEST washer, get a NORGE!!!

Post# 385369 , Reply# 8   10/14/2009 at 19:48 (5,300 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
As The Load Churns

I also feel that other machines "churn" the load of clothing much better,such as the three ring Frigidaire agitators. But the Maytags wash well enough IF a large heavy load is not put into them.

Post# 385373 , Reply# 9   10/14/2009 at 19:58 (5,300 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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For years the center dial Maytags received top rating from Consumer Reports. The only negative was their small capacity, and that was my main complaint about the early 70's center dial pair we had as daily drivers until 1998. I do love these machines even though they never possessed the bling and flash of their contemporaries over the years. They were built for dependability and longevity, and are an excellent example of what the phrase "made in U.S.A." used to mean. They may be boring to some, but a lot of us find their tank-like attributes, simple mechanics and overall fine quality to be quite impressive.

Post# 385376 , Reply# 10   10/14/2009 at 20:12 (5,300 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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My 1979 A408 is still kicking and does major loads of wash. I need no extra rinse because the spray along with the deep rinse is more than enough to thoroughly rinse all the excess detergent residue out. It is always a clear suds free rinse.I never needed to rerinse anything.The agitation always has a great turnover and is far from being dull or boaring.The clothes turnover around 6 times a minute and I always get white whites and bright colors.This unit resideds in our coin op laundry and is turned off manualy via switch so not just anybody can use it.I use it for my own and dropped off loads. I never have any issues except a few ass holes who got mad after loading it w'out permission and realizing it was not turned on.One guy got caught pissing on it after loading it only to find out it was not connected.He was arrested and fined for dissorderly conduct and sexual exposing himself.

Post# 385377 , Reply# 11   10/14/2009 at 20:14 (5,300 days old) by maytagmike (Burlington, Vt)        
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my mom had a Maytag that ran the whole time I was growing up. I now my self have a Maytag 408 that is 32 years young still going strong. Whilrpool will never be able to match that. Thanks, the maytag repair man.

Post# 385378 , Reply# 12   10/14/2009 at 20:15 (5,300 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Well, if you ever come visit us in Roanoke, I will show you my 1964 Highlander with three or four pair of jeans in it and you will see LOTS of action.
Or, just stick your hand down there where the turbulence is and see what you think.

I have all kinds of vintage machines and they all have some kind of draw-back or quirk.

The Highlander, however, always comes through.
Doesn't matter what you see going on, its the clean clothes you retrieve from it when it is done that counts.

I LOVE vintage Maytag!


Post# 385380 , Reply# 13   10/14/2009 at 20:18 (5,300 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Jesus, Rick, I just blew up your fab pic! Are you still gett

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Thoroughness.

No nonsense. Check out the spray rinse. Powerful, thick shots across the load for a full minute. So effective, so thorough. Complete success. BUT I never "got" Maytags till joining the club, either, so have a sense of where you're coming from.

I used to call them Boretags; now I wouldn't dare!!! And yes, Overloaded, they're a nightmare, a tragic train trudging away to nowhere.

I have a conventional Tag, and you get that baby going with the comforting slow steady urging of the motor.....the constancy, the dependability, the fire hydrant gush of the pump, now that's a taste of washer heaven.


Post# 385382 , Reply# 14   10/14/2009 at 20:29 (5,300 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
square tub

I did'nt say anything about the square tub wringers...They are by FAR the best wringer washer ever.

Post# 385386 , Reply# 15   10/14/2009 at 21:07 (5,300 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
What's Not Sexy About These Maytags?

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40 Years Old and going strong! At Greg's.

Post# 385387 , Reply# 16   10/14/2009 at 21:07 (5,300 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
Now

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With Me.

Post# 385389 , Reply# 17   10/14/2009 at 21:10 (5,300 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

THOSE are purty! Please forgive me, but how is any washer or dryer "sexy"? That seems unusual to me.

Post# 385390 , Reply# 18   10/14/2009 at 21:12 (5,300 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
But Norgeway--love the name, by the way--

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The Norge Wringer is no slouch.

Post# 385391 , Reply# 19   10/14/2009 at 21:14 (5,300 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        
Oh Lawdy-------

Mikey, now you started something. You are going to have to post some action shots of that 'Noge now!

Post# 385393 , Reply# 20   10/14/2009 at 21:20 (5,300 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
I Am In Absolute Awe

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Of these machines. I had a 1977 set of 806s that lasted for years. My sister-in-law is still using her's. They wash great. Picked these up from Greg - 40 years old and run great. Still have technicians that work on them and all the major components are still available. Sure, the Frigidaires are fun to watch, but try to maintain a Rollermatic!

Post# 385395 , Reply# 21   10/14/2009 at 21:22 (5,300 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
Sexy

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Is in the eye of the beholder.

Post# 385396 , Reply# 22   10/14/2009 at 21:24 (5,300 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
okay, Mister

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Here's some not-Gyra-but Noge-foam

Post# 385397 , Reply# 23   10/14/2009 at 21:24 (5,300 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
I don't need

"flash" or "bling."


I just need clean clothes and reliability. I got that with my former A208, and I get that with my current LAT 9806. (My LAT does have an extra rinse button. I use the setting once in a while.)


Living in an apartment, the quietness of my Maytags is a desirable plus!


Consumer Reports put it like this years ago (this is a paraphrase, not verbatim)- "Maytags are not superior in every way, they are just deficient in no way."


Of course, that is from when they were good.



Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 385398 , Reply# 24   10/14/2009 at 21:25 (5,300 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Fred, that set is the bomb. As I recall the washer is on steroids with the custom pulley.
They just don't get any better than those.


Post# 385403 , Reply# 25   10/14/2009 at 21:31 (5,300 days old) by westingman123 ()        
mickeyd

Is that Norge enjoying the surf? She's a beauty. Hope you gave her some sunscreen. (ducks and runs)

Post# 385405 , Reply# 26   10/14/2009 at 21:41 (5,300 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Sunscreen ain't got a chance, Westexi,

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in those bold Noge Currents

Post# 385406 , Reply# 27   10/14/2009 at 21:51 (5,300 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Jesus, Rick, I just blew up your fab pic! Are you still getting in fights on the weekends;'D


Well Mike, you should have seen the other guy! lol!!

Sometimes you have to do what you have to do in this old world, I try to avoid fights, but always do real well when I have to.

Here is one for you. I know you like "tub art"


Post# 385408 , Reply# 28   10/14/2009 at 21:55 (5,300 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag washers and dryers 1950s-1970s

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I worked for a maytag-whirlpool dealer from 1973 through 1978 selling and servicing washers dryers and dishwashers. If a had a dollar for everly customer who bought a new maytag washer from us and said it dident clean as well as their old whirlpool kenmore norge ge hotpoint speedqueen etc etc i would be even richer now. We also had a lot of complaints about more lint on clothes as they came from the washer about the only positive thing people said when they came back to the store to make the last payment was that the new washer was quiet. One old time repairman told me the reason they last so long is because they don't do anything.

Post# 385409 , Reply# 29   10/14/2009 at 22:01 (5,300 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
A dazzling beautiful washtub rainbow, a sunset smear of colo

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You just look so tough in the pic; it was very comforting.

The coming of the winter beach


Post# 385410 , Reply# 30   10/14/2009 at 22:08 (5,300 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Betty Draper's Maytag - the 160

Post# 385414 , Reply# 31   10/14/2009 at 22:33 (5,300 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Maytag Cleaning Ability

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I can't speak for everyone's experience, but I well remember when I ditched a DD Whirly pair (late 1980s) for a set of centre-dial 'Tags (A108 washer and DE608 dryer). The difference in how clean clothes got was phenomenal - things that had been looking "beat" were suddenly looking new again.

I'm getting an 806 pair soon, and I'm looking forward to 'em, big-time. They're not the 906's of my most fevered lottery-win dreams, but they're as close as I'm probably ever going to get.


Post# 385415 , Reply# 32   10/14/2009 at 22:36 (5,300 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
P.S.:

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For me, other machines are like the gorgeous number you meet in the bar - fun for a while, but a letdown sooner or later. 'Tags are reliable, loving partners who are always there for you if you just take care of 'em.

Post# 385418 , Reply# 33   10/14/2009 at 22:56 (5,300 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Betty Draper's Maytag - the 160

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Well, push button or not, I'm just glad it was a Maytag ;-)

Ben


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Post# 385420 , Reply# 34   10/14/2009 at 23:18 (5,300 days old) by strongenough78 (California)        
In my honest opinion......

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I've always thought the Maytag's were quite attractive. Simple yet elegant without being overly flashy. Especially the A806's and of course the 906's like fnelson's and Betty Drapers 160. The panel lights with those push buttons at the right angle are so pretty. And when it comes to functions, the A806's do have quite a few, hence all the buttons along with the center dial.
As far as how they clean, I've never seen much of a difference from the other machine's I've used over the years. I've used quite a few commercial Maytag's and have always been happy with the results. The only home set I've used was at my Uncle's house years ago. I'm trying to think of what model it would have been. It was a 2 speed for sure and had the gentle action and normal action buttons, but for the wash only, not the spin speed. It was avocado green, I remember that lol. But no matter what speed setting you pushed, it was stuck on gentle. And even then the clothes came out respectfully clean.
I quite enjoy watching a Maytag when I get the chance, which isn't too often. Since I joined this site, my interest in Maytag's have gone up alot. Probably the only issue I have with them is the 10 minute wash time on the much older models or 12 minutes on the newer vintage models. Even though the dial can be reset, I got used to 14+ minutes with Whirlpool or Kenmore. But that is one flaw I can definately overlook. The Maytag set of my dreams would be an A806, with the back panel and tub lights, the largest capacity tub size available of course. I've seen posts of certain model years having larger tubs than previous years. And of course the 50 hz pulley set up. I've seen a few of those and WOW! MUCH fun to watch. When I do get my own set though, I'm having it custom painted. I even decided on a color, but will surprise you with it lol.
So all in all, I can see why Maytag's are so popular. Dependability, quietness and all out fun. Plus the number of different models they offer. Well, offered! Pretty much one to suit everyone's taste!


Post# 385421 , Reply# 35   10/14/2009 at 23:38 (5,300 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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A shot of it this season looked like all buttons on the washer. The washer and dryer have changed places as well.

Post# 385432 , Reply# 36   10/15/2009 at 00:45 (5,300 days old) by goldenboy ()        
Unusual

I agree mrcleanjeans, very unusual to characterize a Maytag as "sexy."

Post# 385494 , Reply# 37   10/15/2009 at 09:02 (5,300 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        
I can see it...

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I can think of several machines that are flashy, dowdy, glitzy or whiz-bang, but you look at Greg's set above and "sexy" sure fits. The lines, the curves, the crosshatch to the glass backed with that cursive script in gold and just a touch of chrome around those controls is graceful, almost unassuming. The pastels on the timer knob are fun but at the same time practically belie the robustness of the machine; almost flirty.

The whole package is like that little black dress complete with pearl necklace. Or something like that.... : )


Post# 385499 , Reply# 38   10/15/2009 at 09:25 (5,300 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
Sexy

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Definition from Dictionary.com:

sexy
  /seksi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sek-see]
–adjective, sexier, sexiest. 1. concerned predominantly or excessively with sex; risqué: a sexy novel.
2. sexually interesting or exciting; radiating sexuality: the sexiest professor on campus.
3. excitingly appealing; glamorous: a sexy new car.


I was using the usage in #3.


Post# 385509 , Reply# 39   10/15/2009 at 10:50 (5,300 days old) by jakeseacrest (Massachusetts)        

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How about the Maytag dishwashers?

Post# 385530 , Reply# 40   10/15/2009 at 12:31 (5,300 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

Like a 1930s Packard automobile, the Maytag has class without being gaudy. Understated elegance. Real class, like people with "old money" would buy.

Ken D.


Post# 385541 , Reply# 41   10/15/2009 at 13:00 (5,300 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
Appliance sexuality

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Never in my life have I ever associated the beauty and charm of any major or small kitchen appliance with sex.Others thow who see my passion, as I watch my A408 do a full load,always ask me if I want to,or already have fucked it???How stupid can people be?? have never gotten a stiffy watching the clothes roll over or tumble.I usualy go into a deep trance watching the movement's pattern. Sort of like a Kolidascope.?
My 408 has great turn over. One major difference I always see with only the Maytags is no air pockets in items like sheets,pillow cases,jeans and T-shirts. The belt drive Whirlpools,top loading Westinghouses,GE,and WCI's always had airpockets that woldn't allow the pieces to invert.The spinning with the tub full of water is also another god feature. Instead of the clothes getting all bunched up at the bottom of the tub allowing the residue lint and scum to get all over the clothes,the Maytags always spin with the water in the tub.That allow the scum and lint to go down the drain and the clothes stay at a higher level more evenly distributed to get more water spun out of the clothes.I have a Whirlpool DD and it does not spin out as much water from a medium to full load as the Maytags or Speed Queens.It also doesn't handle off ballance loads as well.I've had some serious tares in dress shirts,dress slacks,towels and wash cloths caused by the "Cruel-Action Agrivator".I wil probably never own another.


Post# 385555 , Reply# 42   10/15/2009 at 14:01 (5,300 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Never in my life have I ever associated the beauty and charm

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Yes I agree completely. I enjoy washing machines, what they do and yes they can be beautifully styled or artfully designed. But they have never done anything for me sexually.... that's what the human body is for, thank you very much!


Post# 385588 , Reply# 43   10/15/2009 at 17:14 (5,299 days old) by j2400 ()        

I've never had experience with a Maytag, but it's on my "hope" list, based on what I've heard others say about the machines. If what I hear is even only partly true, the Maytag could end up my #1 daily washer choice.

From a look, I find that the Center Dial Maytags are classy. There is something about the look that, while "old", remains, to me, fresh. Not to say that others are "stale", but they look more tied to an era, more retro. (Although, that's what can make those other machines fun!) I usually don't like white appliances (I don't really like white anything), but Maytag washers and dryers are the exception--I think white works better for the Maytag design than, say, Avocado.

I like that Maytag (at least compared to other brands) understated. As if Maytag was confident in selling the washers based on the quality of the machine, and not acres of shiny chrome, bright lights, and billions of buttons.


Post# 385589 , Reply# 44   10/15/2009 at 17:17 (5,299 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Also,CU claimed in about 1972 that a 1 speed Maytag was the only washer that ruined sheer curtains. They were trying to see if 2 speeds were essential or not.

Post# 385595 , Reply# 45   10/15/2009 at 18:11 (5,299 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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"CU Claimed" - that says it all!



Post# 385596 , Reply# 46   10/15/2009 at 18:21 (5,299 days old) by wetguymd (Maryland)        

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Mickey that Norge wringer is beautiful! I would kill for a machine like that. If you ever want to pass it on please let me know!!!!

Post# 385598 , Reply# 47   10/15/2009 at 18:23 (5,299 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

My parents always had Maytags when I was growing up. The AMP models were neither reliable, nor very effective at cleaning. Of course, their "works in the lid" wouldn't let you see in, even during the wash cycle, but I suspect clothes were just being sloshed back and forth.

In 1963, we got our first TOL helical drive pair. Although they were much better machines, and were awesome to look at, we were able to see that any more than a few pounds of dry clothes, would not circulate, top to bottom. The old slosh was back. We actually witnessed more than once, a normally-sized load have items that never got pulled completely under the water. Three pair of jeans or a set of twin sheets come to mind. Don't even get me started on the Halo-of-Heat dinky drum, dryer.

Both washer and dryer gave 10 years of enourmously mediocre performance without a single repair.


Post# 385599 , Reply# 48   10/15/2009 at 18:33 (5,299 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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"Also, CU claimed in about 1972 that a 1 speed Maytag was the only washer that ruined sheer curtains."

Don't be fooled, there's a whole lotta action going on below the surface of that tub. I most certainly enjoy my 2 speed motor/712 console upgrade I performed from the original 1 speed 490, thanks to RCD. Delicate items like bathroom throw rugs and outer vacuum cleaner bags are pristinely cleaned without loosening and exposing a single thread.

Since we have pretty much exhausted Maytag washers, lets discuss their dryers!

The HOH! Maybe has a smaller drum compared to other brands, but wow, what a reliably built tank! Not to mention quick and effective drying with dead on accuracy of the electronic moisture control models. By large outperforms the 81 Kenmore (which has a much bigger drum) on large items like blankets and comforters.

Since the seals in the 81 Kenmore are pretty much shot, and I'm tired of the dust bowl it has been creating in the washroom, (hey, it's almost 30 years old!) I have temperarley swapped it for the DE808 big load dryer (another big thanks goes out to RCD for this one too!). Wow, this this design has really started to grow on me!


Post# 385601 , Reply# 49   10/15/2009 at 18:39 (5,299 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
Queen for way more than a day

I like old solid tub Speed Queens MUCH better. They are rarer, agitate loads much better, float lint down the drain with no need for a gooey washable lint screen though SQ did try briefly to have one-and rinse better with an overflow rinse-plus they have a more industrial look to them. I realize Maytags last longer however. Also I love the non-chipping stainless steel SQ tub.

Post# 385604 , Reply# 50   10/15/2009 at 18:48 (5,299 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Actually, they showed pictures of casement fabric that had been pulled out of shape, distorted, warped; I don't know the exact term; damaged is as good as any. I read that report while my mom was shopping for groceries at the Treasure Island store near us. Premium gas was still 33 cents a gallon at their automotive center. The other boot hit the floor a year or two later when CU had a picture of laundry baskets filled with dry laundry that demonstrated, graphically, that the Whirlpool machine could wash in two loads what the standard tub Maytag required three loads to wash. CU never tested the standard tub Maytag again.

I hate to burst air bubbles, but they were not unknown in my Maytags, usually in the rinse, until I started running them with the 50 cycle pulley kit.

Why does that pair of pink Maytags have a white light behind the control panel? What happened to the tinted plastic tubes in pink for those machines into which you inserted the tube to make the control panel glass coordinate with the cabinet color when the light was on? Sorta gross? Yes, but very 50s. The pink was probably better than the yellow or turquoise.


Post# 385606 , Reply# 51   10/15/2009 at 18:59 (5,299 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

I'm not sure you could fit anything but a twin size comforter in a HOH dryer. I've rebuilt alot of machines, and have used them as well. I agree the HOH electronic control was very accurate, but it's small capacity and short cooldown was 2 of it's shortcomings. It was very quiet. The gas version had a standing pilot...Maytag was the last to convert to pilotless ignition. Not to mention it wasn't an easy dryer to service. Maytag boasted about front serviceability of the washers, but was non-existent on the HOH dryers. The big load dryers debuting in the mid 70's (I think) were a VAST improvement. Of course they were....they copied the backless drum design and drum rollers from WHIRLPOOL....which had and still has the same design.

Post# 385607 , Reply# 52   10/15/2009 at 19:00 (5,299 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Fred, I never get tired of you showing that 906 set off! I have half of a set with the CDE906. Chances of finding the matching washer? Who knows...

Post# 385608 , Reply# 53   10/15/2009 at 19:07 (5,299 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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I agree with what was said earlier. Every design has its strengths and quirks. HOH dryers were always kind of a pain to service but they sure lasted! This is my 1972 set which shows Maytags styling flair that will most likely never resurface again. Appliances as sexy? Hmmm... I'm not sure I can agree with that although the Jetcone almost seems phallic... LOL!

Post# 385609 , Reply# 54   10/15/2009 at 19:08 (5,299 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Appliance art...

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I never get tired of the night shots posted here. Here's the 72's showing off...

RCD


Post# 385614 , Reply# 55   10/15/2009 at 19:14 (5,299 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
I'm not sure you could fit anything but a twin size comf

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I stuff a queen size comforter in my 750/806 about every 3 months. Much better than using the Kenmore and having to stop the machine and flip it around/turn it inside out every 20 minutes. Plus, the Kenmore takes about 2 hours of drying/flipping. The HOH? About an hour and 15 minutes and that's without once stopping the machine or flipping the comforter.

Post# 385615 , Reply# 56   10/15/2009 at 19:22 (5,299 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Oh Myyyyyyyyyyyy.

I am about to shout,most of the Norge wringers around here are well thrashed,and everyone knows Norge is my FAVORITE brand,if you dont believe me check out my stove on the super thread, I personally think Maytags are beautiful, well built reliable machines, It is just that I like a rougher washing action,I am not knocking Maytag, it's just like a G M car,I just dont want one,I have always liked the odd or unusual more than the common.

Post# 385624 , Reply# 57   10/15/2009 at 20:17 (5,299 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
night shot show-off

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The Easy at dusk *wink*

Post# 385628 , Reply# 58   10/15/2009 at 21:25 (5,299 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Dan,

I do agree that a bulky item like a comforter does stay damp in the middle, unless you "unwind" it. But, for everyday laundry that's not as issue (not for me anyway).


Post# 385636 , Reply# 59   10/15/2009 at 21:43 (5,299 days old) by charbee ()        
Maytag's got yer "turnover" riiiiiiiiiiiiiight

Just did a huge load of "dawg towels" (six big beach-towel sized towels) and a 3' x 5' rag rug in ol' Maudie (our $20 Craigslist 70s-vintage A407). Temp set on "hot", action set to "regular", load size set on "large". Don't understand anyone who might say that Maytags don't do "turnover"...as I always do, I stood and watched the agitation for awhile. Within about ten seconds, the turnover started and kept goin' until the end. No "swishing around"...just total turnover.

We were amazed when we first got the Maytag at how much cleaner things came out vs the "new" Whirlpool piece o'garbage we'd gotten (that died waaaaaay too soon).

No contest!


Post# 385647 , Reply# 60   10/15/2009 at 22:45 (5,299 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        
our $20 Craigslist 70s-vintage A407

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Got any pics?

Post# 385650 , Reply# 61   10/15/2009 at 23:30 (5,299 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
But, for everyday laundry that's not as issue (not for m

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Yeah, for a typical load of clothes, it's really not a problem. But the HOH is more accurate in the auto dry mode than the Kenmore.

Post# 385655 , Reply# 62   10/16/2009 at 00:21 (5,299 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

I want to make a Maytag my new daily driver washer but, it's ability to handle a real full load is what I wondered about. I've been hoping that someone would make a video of it. A complete wash, rinse and spin video set to PROVE the power-fin's agitator "turnover" strength. It's easy to make sure you don't overload it. Once the majority of the load is in the tub, as it starts, just keep adding a piece at a time of extra items. As long as you can see the clothes being pulled down by the agitator then rolled back over from the sides of the tub. IT'S NOT OVERLOADED!!!

BTW, will any of you other guys that also have a Maytag (deep tub) with the awesome (50 cycle pulley set) make videos of your washer? Doesn't it become a better Maytag...makes a HOTTER video?


Post# 385662 , Reply# 63   10/16/2009 at 01:22 (5,299 days old) by goldenboy ()        
Water Consumption

Does anyone know the water consumption of the Maytags (i.e.40 years old)?


Post# 385674 , Reply# 64   10/16/2009 at 05:57 (5,299 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
water consumption: like aquatic TB?

The regular tub held 16 gallons; the deep tub 19.

Post# 385694 , Reply# 65   10/16/2009 at 10:39 (5,299 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

Total load 34 gallons
40 gallons for the deep tub.

Ken D.


Post# 385699 , Reply# 66   10/16/2009 at 11:02 (5,299 days old) by charbee ()        
Pics of Maude

Here's a few. Like most of us who survived the 70s, she ain't the purdiest gal at the prom anymore, to be sure, but still the best $20 we ever spent. The plastic "chrome" is eaten up with green gunk, the white tub has rust stains, the gold paint looks like some dufus tried to touch it up with model paint at one point in the past, but none of that really matters.

Tilted her back to make sure she had good Maytag belts, and that's really the only thing we've done to her. She's never let us down yet, and I think we've been using her as our only washer for about three years now. She's our workhorse, she's in a shed outside, and she works perfectly.

We do have the later non-center-dial LA510 that we're holding in reserve in case Maude finally gives up.


Post# 385700 , Reply# 67   10/16/2009 at 11:03 (5,299 days old) by charbee ()        
Dial...

Dial's worn, as well, but still readable for all practical porpoises..;-)

Post# 385701 , Reply# 68   10/16/2009 at 11:04 (5,299 days old) by charbee ()        
Tub...

White tub with typical red stains, but none of it comes off on the clothes. No pitting or rusting of the tub itself.

Post# 385707 , Reply# 69   10/16/2009 at 12:15 (5,299 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        
Scrubflex

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There are LOT of larger cap Maytag videos on youtube. I linked to one here: just searching on youtube for "a806" should give you a few options.

I got my A806 shortly after I moved into my house, and I've used it exclusively since. I think my clothes are cleaner since I switched to using this machine (had used a shedmore back home). I pretty much fill my machine to near the top of the agi and wash at the highest water level, and ALWAYS get turnover.

The only time I used any other machine was a queen comforter, which ran in a friends modern front loader. Would never expect to run such a large item in my A806. The machine routinely powers through towel loads, bath and kitchen floormats, and the regular 2-3 loads a week a single guy needs to have washed.

I couldn't be more pleased with it. Have found another A806 for a friend with a wife and baby, and they love it. Am on the lookout for a DG806 for myself and a complete 806 set for another friend.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO mistereric's LINK


Post# 385709 , Reply# 70   10/16/2009 at 12:16 (5,299 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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my machine, rusty side panel. like charbee's machine, a little worn but still a workhorse.

Post# 385710 , Reply# 71   10/16/2009 at 12:17 (5,299 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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Friends machine - this one was kept nicely and it looks damned near brand new.

Post# 385711 , Reply# 72   10/16/2009 at 12:26 (5,299 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Lexus

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Maytags were the Lexus of the 70's - 90's. Now, not so much.

Post# 385745 , Reply# 73   10/16/2009 at 16:43 (5,299 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

But I thought that in July 1986 they cheapened them with the orbital tranny

Post# 385747 , Reply# 74   10/16/2009 at 16:49 (5,298 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Orbital Tranny

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Others may disagree. But IMO, the orbital tranny was damn near bulletproof.

Post# 385759 , Reply# 75   10/16/2009 at 17:40 (5,298 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        
mistereric

I've seen that video, it's nice. I have a queen size bed. Is it really impossible for the A806 to handle a queen size comforter? I've used a Kenmore straight-vane agitator with my Whirlpool DD washer (3.2 cu.ft. 16 5/8" tall and 20 3/4" wide) and it washed and clean my queen comforter. The Maytag deep tubs are (21 3/4" wide and 16" tall) are you sure it can not handle it using the highest water level?

Post# 385774 , Reply# 76   10/16/2009 at 19:22 (5,298 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
Is it really impossible for the A806 to handle a queen size

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Yeah, even a full size comforter requires higher water levels and some outside help to get rollover. It gives me an excuse to play with the water hogging Speed Queen front loaders at the local laundry mat. However, everything comes home right after the spinal spin and gets dried into 2 vintage dryers simultaneously.

Post# 385775 , Reply# 77   10/16/2009 at 19:28 (5,298 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Wow! THAT SUCKS!!! I'm very upset now.

Post# 385788 , Reply# 78   10/16/2009 at 20:20 (5,298 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Yeah, if the comforter is not too bulky a big-tub 'tag can handle a queen-size. My 806 has no problem with one.

Post# 385799 , Reply# 79   10/16/2009 at 22:09 (5,298 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

BTW,why did the 1972 Maytag 1-speed damage delicate fabrics, yet aggresive washers such as Norge did not?

Post# 385808 , Reply# 80   10/16/2009 at 22:59 (5,298 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        
...a big tub 'tag can handle...

Ohhhkay!!! Now that's more like it. I was worry there for a minute. Besides, the 50 cycle pulley set and a new brake system should definitey inable it to handle a heavier load.

Post# 385828 , Reply# 81   10/17/2009 at 00:06 (5,298 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
Mr. Cleanjeans...

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maytag did not go to the orbital tranny until 1991

Post# 385829 , Reply# 82   10/17/2009 at 00:09 (5,298 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

The reason MANY have thought that the Helical drive Maytags were not cleaning so well will cause me to defend them. The people overstuffed them. They could not handle stuffed loads well but when properly loaded they worked fine. BTW, they ARE a favorite of mine in many ways-it's just they aren't as fun in some respects as say-for example the wild and crazy Blades-o-Water Philco.

Post# 385831 , Reply# 83   10/17/2009 at 00:12 (5,298 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Hi there Patrick. Someone on this sight sayed July 1986. Thanks for the correction.

Post# 385832 , Reply# 84   10/17/2009 at 00:13 (5,298 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
maytag did not go to the orbital tranny until 1991

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June of 1986. The last batch of the 12 series had the orbitals installed and the 12 series ended in 1988.

Post# 385834 , Reply# 85   10/17/2009 at 00:16 (5,298 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Thanks Dan for correcting the correction.

Post# 385841 , Reply# 86   10/17/2009 at 01:02 (5,298 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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First off - Love the Tags! Great thread and some wonderful discussion going on.

Secondly - per the July/August 1989 Let's Talk Service, Maytag began using their 'new' transmission in current production machines as well as the S1000 stacking unit in July of 1989 (see scanned announcement below).

I'm not sure if, by this time, the 12 series was at the very end of the run (further in the doc you see a 12 panel with an early PowerFlex agitator coming out of it for disassembly), or if the black face machines had made their debut. I do know that most of the black face machines parts manuals are dated to the spring of '90.

For what it is the Orbital is a good transmission, and incredibility simple. I'd take one over a DD Whirlpool any day - even with the PowerFlex-12.

Ben


Post# 385852 , Reply# 87   10/17/2009 at 03:50 (5,298 days old) by goldenboy ()        
Go Green...

My big concern with actually using the old Maytag's is the fact of the large water consumption. I can appreciate the collecting of vintage machines but my issue is the daily use of these machines. Front-loading washers save on average 40-75% less water and 30-85% less energy. Also, your clothes will last longer. In this economy and energy crisis, we need to be responsible for our resources. We all need to do our part so generations to come can enjoy what we do.

Post# 385866 , Reply# 88   10/17/2009 at 08:35 (5,298 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

If everyone switched to front loading washers tomorrow, the sewers would turn to mud and stop flowing, they'd have to flush them with millions of gallons of water.

I'm not giving up my top loader just because some bonehead towns allowed the bonehead builders to build houising that they don't have sufficient utilities for.

It's water! It falls out of the sky!

Ken D.


Post# 385883 , Reply# 89   10/17/2009 at 10:22 (5,298 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
No front loader for me, EVER!

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When I wash clothes, I want them to be washed with enough water to do a proper job of it. The 2-3 tsps. of water that go into a front loader just don't cut it with me. Plus from what I've seen, a top loader gets the job done in much less time.

Post# 385892 , Reply# 90   10/17/2009 at 11:17 (5,298 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

I agree. I would have any good top loader over today's front loaders. As thousands end up in the scrap heap in 5-7 years, I would not call that ecologically responsible. I'd only consider one if I could raise the water level a bit. I also don't want to wash with just a spoonful of water which won't help the dirt go down.

Post# 385904 , Reply# 91   10/17/2009 at 13:56 (5,298 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Goldenboy, what kind of washer and dryer are you using?

Post# 385909 , Reply# 92   10/17/2009 at 14:21 (5,298 days old) by travlincub321 ()        

I found this little tid bit of info on maytag

CLICK HERE TO GO TO travlincub321's LINK


Post# 385916 , Reply# 93   10/17/2009 at 14:43 (5,298 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Never left at the curb

Since 1972, nothing but Maytag as the daily driver. Four kids, catering laundry, employee and family laundry and never once did a Maytag ever fail or miss a day of work. I bought three new sets, one to have a matching set with a new gas dryer and the last was left in the house sale. Day after day and year after year it hums away. In my "secret space" I have a Dependable Care and an 806 which 5 families in may apartment use. There is a Speed Queen set that are awful. They have been overload through the years, back and crash away, the tub indexes and clothes are not clean or spun dry. The dryer load takes 90 minutes. Never, ever a repair. One factory recall on the Atlantis set for a timer replacement but the washer was functioning perfectly before. The Atlantic has a huge tub which may be an advantage, but doubling the amount of clothes leaves you standing in front of the dryer forever, getting it all folded. Nothing, nothing, nothing out washes a Maytag if loaded properly.People from the neighborhood and at work are always showing up with a problem piece of laundry for me to fix. I have owned, played and washed in them all, but in the quiet of the night, it is the Maytag that owns my heart.

Post# 385932 , Reply# 94   10/17/2009 at 16:07 (5,298 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

That is impressive Kelly.As I said earlier, Maytags do have a classiness about them, and I would have them in a heartbeat over many, many others. I do like snaz however. It's a weakness.

Post# 385936 , Reply# 95   10/17/2009 at 16:36 (5,298 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

I use my Maytag 806 for almost everything except heavy blankets, those get washed in my Frigidaire front loader. I also spin everything washed in the Maytag in the Frigidaire to remove more water. Clothes are just cleaner washed in a top loader.



Post# 385963 , Reply# 96   10/17/2009 at 18:38 (5,297 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

What went wrong with the Maytag combos ? They're rare and fun. Were they really so bad? I'd love one.

Post# 385977 , Reply# 97   10/17/2009 at 19:38 (5,297 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

We used to wash our bathroom rug, which pretty much covered the whole floor of a standard sized bathroom in our A206. It handled pretty well actually. Although we usually put set the load size for the highest, which on a 206 is Normal, one time we mistakenly left the water level set at Medium. The water currents were like the introduction to Gilligan's Island, and were fun to watch for a few minutes. Then I switched it to Normal.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 386052 , Reply# 98   10/18/2009 at 01:35 (5,297 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        
The Atlantis has a huge tub...

The Maytag Atlantis visually looks huge because of the wide-based agitator but, it's not. The tub is 21" wide and 14 1/2" tall... 15" the most, the agitator base is 15" wide. That's the same size as the modern Speed Queen washer (3.3 cu. ft tubs). Maytag Dependable (HELICAL) deep tubs are wider and taller.

Post# 386141 , Reply# 99   10/18/2009 at 14:12 (5,297 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
Maydrag ?

I've been amazed at the amount of people on here that found the old Maytags as they called them boring. I don't think they're boring' in fact they're great. It's just that some other washers like a rare ABC-O-Matic are more exciting.

Post# 386276 , Reply# 100   10/19/2009 at 01:08 (5,296 days old) by goldenboy ()        
Maydrag?

Mrcleanjeans, I thought you started this thread saying "plain and unadored". Now you are saying you are amazed others find old Maytags as boring. I am amazed you are amazed...

Post# 386280 , Reply# 101   10/19/2009 at 02:59 (5,296 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        
Goldenboy:

I think the point mrcleanjeans was making is that he would prefer a Maytag top loader over any HE machine currently available. I, myself, don't knock front loaders. I actually like them, I really do. However, the Maytag Epic you buy at the store is NOT the Unimac or Speed Queen commercial soft-mount I would prefer. Nor are they the Zerowatt I currently have on the Y connector at my kitchen sink. They use water, and lots of it. Not only that, but my Zerowatt also uses up more electricity than my dryer during the wash cycle, when it's heating that water. Think of it as being the British Airway's Concord of home appliances.

You may find this to be a bit unimaginable, but my Frigidaire 1-18 uses about 44 gallons and will do 18 pounds, as opposed to the Zerowatt's 13 pound capacity with 60 gallons of water consumption per load, with no variable water level. That's a savings of 15 gallons each time you do a wash, using the Frigidaire 1-18! A Maytag top-loader will use even less water. But with all them gallons of water being used up by the Zerowatt, the result is the type of clean that can not be achieved by a standard household machine. It's very close to the type of clean you can only get by sending your items off to a linen and uniform service. My front loader was built for performance, not tree hugging. Like I said, I like front loaders and LOVE big iron!

No, I don't find a center-dial Maytag top loader to be that appealing, even with the lighted console. I guess it must be the sounds they make and the plain-jane agitator? I don't know. But I will take the 1978 Maytag A806 over a BRAND NEW Affinity, Cabrio, Oasis or Duet Sport any day.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 386301 , Reply# 102   10/19/2009 at 09:44 (5,296 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        
Maytag washers and dryers 1950s-1970s

John. I thought I was the only one that felt that way. My cousin had a Maytag and had boys (who played sports) and load of dirty laundry. She said she hated the machine, did not clean well, gave it to a neighbor, and bought a Westinghouse Front loader in the mid 80's and loved it. She saw the difference in a few weeks with the boys white clothes and socks. She also stated. " They lasted long because they did not do anything".

Post# 386306 , Reply# 103   10/19/2009 at 10:13 (5,296 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        
"They lasted long because they did not do anything"

I've heard that many times, and always from someone that stuffed too many clothes in.

An overloaded Maytag doesn't wash for beans, but it won't hurt itself trying.

Ken D.


Post# 386307 , Reply# 104   10/19/2009 at 10:16 (5,296 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Goldenboy,I am amazed that you're amazed. From the beginning I said that Maytags have a classiness about them , they are just not AS exciting as some snazzier machines but no machine has ever been built like them.

Post# 386309 , Reply# 105   10/19/2009 at 10:32 (5,296 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Ken from Haledon, NJ. Another NJ guy here. Actually my cousin that had the Maytag lives in West Paterson, Garret Mt. lol

She did not overstuff.... She showed me. I have heard this from many many people. (as Combo52 states). I guess it depends on your soil level of clothes too. I know I had a new Maytag from 1992 and it was okay. You could not put many clothes in it. It did get better however when I replaced the agitator with one of the cork screw ones that Maytag came out with a few years later. I have to say the best was I ever got was from the Westinghouse LT800E front loader from 1984. hands down.


Post# 386313 , Reply# 106   10/19/2009 at 11:13 (5,296 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        
Greetings from Haledon !

Nobody get's their clothes dirtier than me. I work in a dirty warehouse and sometimes work on the diesel trucks. I mean clothes that turn the wash water to mud. A properly loaded center-dial Maytag is among the best cleaning machines out there, and one of the best rinsing machines too. I have no experience with newer (orbital transmission) Maytags.

I've had belt-drive Whirlpools, GE Filter flos, a 1-18, I've used a wide variety of front loaders at many different laundromats, I feel that my Maytag A606 does a better job of soil removal and rinsing than any of the above, 1-18 excluded when the clothes weren't in knots.

That said, almost any machine will do a decent job if loaded correctly, but my experience with front loaders has been mediocre at best.

Ken D.





Post# 386319 , Reply# 107   10/19/2009 at 11:46 (5,296 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
I Have To Say:

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I was extremely pleased with the washing performance of my A108. As I've already said, it got regular laundry cleaner than the DD Whirly it replaced - very noticeably so.

But where it really stood out was during my partner's final illness - he had a great many "accidents," involving all kinds of stains I won't even mention here, and the Mighty Tag got out every single one of them. Stuff would go down to the laundry room in unmentionably nasty condition, and come back up clean, stain-free, and fresh-smelling. I did sometimes run a Fabric-Matic delicate cycle using cold water as a pre-wash cycle for certain stains, and then ran a warm regular cycle, but the machine always came through for me. The hospice people told me many times that they were amazed at how clean I could keep my partner's bedding; most of their clients' caregivers eventually put up with a certain amount of stains.

I will say that the bleach bill was fairly impressive.


Post# 386328 , Reply# 108   10/19/2009 at 12:23 (5,296 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Sandy, I think your model did clean nicely. Someone in the family I think had this model and liked it. DO you or anyone else on the club have a picture of it?

Thanks so much

Ray


Post# 386330 , Reply# 109   10/19/2009 at 12:46 (5,296 days old) by gowest84 (Phoenix, AZ)        
Dependable

OK, I do have a Maytag but it's one of the 'dreaded' front loaders, because I only have a 24" wide space in my condo.

I believe I have one of the last 'pure' Maytag machines but I could be wrong. I love my front loader. The only other choices I had were those god-awful 'skinny-mini' machines which I replaced, a foriegn front-loader brand - which was here before my Maytag, or my current set.

In the 2.5 years I've had the machine, the only problem I've had was a quarter got stuck in the pump. More my fault than the machines, but the point is that I can wash a full-size comforter well. Granted, it's a longer wash but I do get my clothes clean.

The downside of this washer is that it feels like the guys from "The Big Bang Theory" are always worried about the spin. The spin cycle sometimes takes a long time because it seems to be worried about something instead of spinning a little of the water out and then restart the spin.

While there are virtues for top-loading machines, I like the fact that I can do more wash in a front loader.

I agree that sometimes there's not enough water during the wash cycle and I have that covered as well, cheat. I cheat with an empty gallon jug that I fill up with water, pause the machine and add through the detergent chute. When it has enough water for my wash, I start it again and it's fine.

Sure, there's a balance between resources, and living out in the Southwest (Phoenix) rain is an odd site. Just watch people try to drive in it or the underpasses flood with one good hour long storm. Sometimes, there's enough water and sometimes I think it needs more. I still have a choice and my old gallon jug available.

So, I love my Maytags and I love my front loaders and for the moment I have the best of two worlds. They're not perfect, but for my cause, it works.

I'd love my Aunt's ceter dial Maytag set for a display and some washes, but then I wouldn't have much of a living room, which may be an improvement.


Post# 386374 , Reply# 110   10/19/2009 at 16:54 (5,295 days old) by j2400 ()        
Water use and energy use...

Both are valid concerns. In some places, they may be enough of a concern that a front loader may be the only valid choice.

However...one real concern I have is that a new washer will take energy and resources to make it, ship it to the customer, and then eventually dispose of it. I've been told the resources used will be huge. It would be one thing if that machine would last a long time, but somehow I doubt it will. I see too many appliances 5 years old that have fatal problems advertised on Craigslist. I don't think 20-40 years will happen.

Another thought: with an older machine, one can get a machine that has a suds saver feature. This will allow reuse of water for several loads.


Post# 386387 , Reply# 111   10/19/2009 at 17:38 (5,295 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Ray:

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"DO you or anyone else on the club have a picture of it?"

This is all I have:


Post# 386476 , Reply# 112   10/20/2009 at 06:32 (5,295 days old) by dblrinz ()        
Sudsavers

Love 'em

I realize a sudsaver would require more thought than the "masses" actually like to put into laundry, but I think it is a great way to reduce water consumption AND the amount of chemicals being sent into the enviroment. Since you are reusing the wash water several times you are then using much less detergent which is sending less to water treatment plants. I know that there is no way for the treatment plants to get the chlorine out of the water and firmly believe that there are traces or more of chemicals from the detergents we use.

My family didn't do it to be enviromentally friendly, they used sudsavers to save money. I have found that using wringers to do the laundry + a trip through the automatic to ensure that the clothes are throughly rinsed and spun Damp Dry reduced my water bill by $50 to $70 a month. It also reduced the need to replace my box of Tide from once a month to once a quarter. This seems like a reduction of consumption WINNER to me...


Post# 386694 , Reply# 113   10/20/2009 at 20:48 (5,294 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
Tiny bubbles make me feel foul

The only thing about suds savers is that people have often complained of "sour" clothes until they stopped using that feature.

Post# 386717 , Reply# 114   10/20/2009 at 21:33 (5,294 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

BTW,wasn't there a pair of turqouise Maytags on I Dream of Jeannie ? Does anyone have pics ?

Post# 386734 , Reply# 115   10/20/2009 at 22:07 (5,294 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

You might be looking for this. It's about 10 posts down.

Have a good one,
James


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Post# 386755 , Reply# 116   10/20/2009 at 23:54 (5,294 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

I have just purchased from a friend in OK who is an appliance repairman, a 1982 normal tub size Maytag automatic. He has rebuilt it and I love that machine! Right next to it sits my 1997 Kitchen Aide automatic.
The Maytag it much quieter. The roll over is great, and I only have to rinse once in the Maytag where I have always done a 2nd rinse with the KA. To test the ability of rinsing, I have take the load out of the maytag with only once rinse and transfered it to the KA for a second rinse, set on the 2nd rinse option. No scum, dirty water or detergent laden water is present in the 2nd rinse.
Perhaps one reason why people say that the Maytag is not an exciting machine etc. is because all action is stopped when the lid is lifted except for fill. For those of us that like to watch the action, Maytag won't let you do that. What I do, and it works, is to take a wooden paint stirer from the paint store and wedge it in between the stop action switch and the bottom of the lid. You have to hold the lid open but you see plenty of water churning etc. in there.
I have a 1980 center dial electric dryer in harvest gold that i bought new and have never had a repair on it. My vote goes to the Maytags. I have several wringer washers and love them all. Easy has great spiralator action. Speed Queen sits up nice and tall and the bowl shaped tub rolls the clothes over well. Maytag with Gyrafoam action really turns the clothes over and washes well. ABC wringers have a slower stroke but the clothes are really rolled around on the bottom of the tub, where most of the washing takes place anyway.
Have fun washing with whatever you have. Gary


Post# 386836 , Reply# 117   10/21/2009 at 09:45 (5,294 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Thanks James

Post# 386839 , Reply# 118   10/21/2009 at 10:03 (5,294 days old) by gowest84 (Phoenix, AZ)        
The early Front-loading Neptunes...

had a similar feature where part of the last rinse was saved in a small tank. The problem was, and why I didn't have my mom get one at the time, that if the water sat too long, there was that old water odor and at the time her water treatment for the hard well-water didn't do a good job of getting the smell out of the water.

The laundromat I went to had the first ones and the owner told me that while there's enough people using the washers to flush out the old water, if you didn't wash enough, you'd have problems. Overall he loved them, but he also had some standard top loaders.

I think there's a market for this type of option, the problem is that if you don't know how to use it effectively, it might cause more problems than it's worth.

Saving money is important, but if it costs too much in time or it's too complicated, most people are going to opt out.


Post# 387034 , Reply# 119   10/22/2009 at 00:45 (5,293 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Can the A806 Maytag washer wash more clothes than the early 70's GE washers?

Post# 387035 , Reply# 120   10/22/2009 at 00:49 (5,293 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

These 70's GE washtubs look wider and deeper than 80's and 90's washers.

Post# 387037 , Reply# 121   10/22/2009 at 00:53 (5,293 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

A806

Post# 387046 , Reply# 122   10/22/2009 at 02:36 (5,293 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
A806

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Correction....HA806 ;)

Post# 387074 , Reply# 123   10/22/2009 at 06:34 (5,293 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        
Correction...

"H" is for...what?

Post# 387089 , Reply# 124   10/22/2009 at 07:13 (5,293 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
"H" is for...what?

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Harvest Gold

Post# 387167 , Reply# 125   10/22/2009 at 12:04 (5,293 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

I think the GE Filter flo will wash a larger load, but it also uses more water.

A full cycle on a deep-tub Maytag is 40 gallons.

How many gallons does a large-tub GE use? Anyone know?

Ken D.


Post# 387197 , Reply# 126   10/22/2009 at 13:33 (5,293 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        
How many gallons does a large-tub GE use? Anyone know?

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a gazillion. that's why I will never own one

Post# 387199 , Reply# 127   10/22/2009 at 13:42 (5,293 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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The GE is around 50. I used to say that with my TOL GE set for a pre-wash, regular cycle and a second rinse that it would break the 100 gallon mark. More on Perm-Press cycle!

Post# 1060162 , Reply# 128   2/10/2020 at 13:36 (1,530 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The Maytags of the 50’s 60’s and 70’s have a certain aesthetic to them, and even a TOL A806 set from the late 60’s or early 70’s doesn’t look that old or out of place and with the back lit fluorescent panel and definitely gives the A806 a timeless aesthetic

Post# 1060286 , Reply# 129   2/11/2020 at 15:46 (1,528 days old) by delturner (USA)        

The maytags of yesteryear will always set the rather high standard for washers of that vintage. The fact that there are so very many still in use says volumes. It certainly cannot be said of ANY other machines ever made.

Post# 1060287 , Reply# 130   2/11/2020 at 16:00 (1,528 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)        

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The Maytags with pitman trans and Mallory timer are like the W123 Mercedes diesels. Built like tanks with more emphasis on build quality and longevity and reliability rather than flash and flair. Those Maytags are to washers and dryers what the 240D was to automobiles.

Post# 1060301 , Reply# 131   2/11/2020 at 18:09 (1,528 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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we preached this a million times over....

Maytags were "Dependable"....emphasis on dependable....not overly great on washing, extraction, rinsing etc....

for the most part, if you under loaded them, they did a sufficient job...

but the dependable came from 'giving in' to the load....too heavy of a load, the belt would slip, and sacrifice cleaning to save the machine.....

machines like Frigidaire, Kenmore, Whirlpool, GE, Speed Queen powered through anything you threw at them...

no one machine was perfect for everyone....as described to me once from a service tech...it is based on what you do.....white collar workers, with just shirts and slacks, a Maytag would be fine....but if you were a blue collar worker, that could mean heavy twills and denim...a GE or Kenmore was selected

actually these blue collar guys, yes men, would select a Norge....of any machine out there for the time frame, it was the only one that offered a full 1 horsepower motor....

most Maytags were almost twice the price of a GE or Kenmore....


Post# 1060303 , Reply# 132   2/11/2020 at 18:53 (1,528 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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I believed they were dependable and nearly 36 years later my 511 washer and 410 dryer proved that and still run like new with one $28 part in all those years. I could have bought another set at Sears for less but a little voice said get the Maytags. Glad now I did.

Post# 1060733 , Reply# 133   2/16/2020 at 16:15 (1,523 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

Yogitunes wrote:

 

Maytags were "Dependable"....emphasis on dependable....not overly great on washing, extraction, rinsing etc.... for the most part, if you under loaded them, they did a sufficient job..."

 

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Extraction you say?  1966 and later  Maytags do a spin-drain which spreads the clothes high on the tub, followed by a 618 RPM spin, a spin speed which they hold for a minimum of 3 minutes.  They extract better than the average washer from the era. 

 

There is no need for under-loading these machines, just don't overload them.  If you overload them, they will protect themselves from such abuse.  My 1972 A606 will wash 5 pairs of heavy Carhardt cargo pants, 38 X 34, and has no problem turning them over during the 2-minute deep rinse.  Those pants are made of heavy canvas, like they used to make Boy Scout tents from.

 

The biggest problem with the old Maytag machines, as I see it, is that you can't possibly learn load the machine properly with the lid-switch being operational.  Also, when I add bleach to my underwear with 4 minutes left in the wash cycle, I want the machine to be agitating.

 

 

 

 




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Post# 1060735 , Reply# 134   2/16/2020 at 16:28 (1,523 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Ken....

we have done the spin test many times here before....

after the regular cycles allowed time for spin, we have reset the timer for a full final spin again, placing the drain hose into a bucket, only to see how much more water was extracted the second time around...

we also done test of placing a board against the motor, and applied more pressure to the belt....only to hear the increase in spin speed...

also found it better to add the third spring to the motor carriage...

without the 50hz setup, always found it best to wash 1/2 loads if you wanted vigorous wash action...especially on the larger capacities...

your mileage may vary....


Post# 1060737 , Reply# 135   2/16/2020 at 16:34 (1,523 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

I have only one spring on my motor along with the stock pulley, and it has no problem reaching 618 RPM on a large load at just around the 2 minute mark, leaving about 3 minutes of full speed spin.  If your machine does not do this, there is something simple wrong with the glides.


Post# 1060750 , Reply# 136   2/16/2020 at 18:49 (1,523 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa)        

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>> after the regular cycles allowed time for spin, we have reset the timer for a full final spin again, placing
>> the drain hose into a bucket, only to see how much more water was extracted the second time around...

In the interest of accuracy, that's not really a scientific test method...

Measuring water deposited into a bucket after moving the hose is only telling you the amount of water the washer pumps out, not the amount (or additional amount) it extracts from the clothing. The amount it pumps out is a function of the hose end height, the hose length and routing, the volume (and resulting velocity) of the fluid moving through the hose, and even factors such as restrictions in the hose, stiff pump bushings, tension on the pump belt, etc. Moving the hose changes several of those factors.

With the right conditions, you could get quite a bit of water pumped into the bucket without any meaningful extra extraction having actually occurred in the clothing. The presence of water in the bucket doesn't prove that the second spin removed anything at all.


One would have to remove the pump and discharge hose entirely and switch to an open gravity floor drain system straight from the tub outlet to be able to collect & measure additional extraction with any real accuracy... and since the Maytags use the height of the discharge hose to hold the water in the tub, you would have to add a valve to hold water in to be able to do the initial fill/agitate... It would take a little work to set up that test!



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