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Thread Number: 25119
Oh Yoo-Hoo! Whirlpool "Work-horse" Washer in NJ |
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Post# 387629 10/23/2009 at 23:40 (5,291 days old) by launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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| Post# 387631 , Reply# 1 10/23/2009 at 23:45 (5,291 days old) by lebron (Minnesota) | ||
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Post# 387632 , Reply# 2 10/23/2009 at 23:46 (5,291 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Pardon | ||
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Post# 387969 , Reply# 3 10/25/2009 at 09:54 (5,290 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York) |
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Post# 387984 , Reply# 4 10/25/2009 at 10:39 (5,290 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 388067 , Reply# 5 10/25/2009 at 19:28 (5,289 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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CAST IRON TRANSMISSION
The gear case in the direct drive washers is cast iron just like the older belt drive machines. The transmission base is cast in sand the mold is only used once. Not only is the direct drive washer far more reliable than the belt drive models but its the most reliable top loading automatic washer ever made. I have worked on all brands of washers for more years than i care to admit and their will be more WP DD machines lasting 30+ years than any thing ever seen before.
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Post# 388068 , Reply# 6 10/25/2009 at 19:58 (5,289 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Yeah, but who wants 'em? | ||
| Post# 388072 , Reply# 7 10/25/2009 at 20:37 (5,289 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
HA HA YOU OLD KUH-VETCHER
Who is this wise man telling the truth about WP DD's bravely challenging Aworg orthodoxy, I wondered. A little click reveals that he is the long lost "slender quiet genius who accompanied you to Canton" GOTCHA ;-> When i once HAD to wash with no time to play, The early 90's LSP9245BWO was the only choice in town. It is SO flexible, like early Frigi's you can get it to agitate with any amount of water in it, during the 3 minute mark, You can get a full suds-return if you've just washed spotless linens and now face a load of filthy rags, the agitator post is made of black and white "Marble," a good half dozen people bring me their comforters because the WP knows how to take 'em down....and on and on and on....... all without a hitch.....over 15 years old and nary a hitch, nada, and I work the b-Jesus out of that machine, especially the timer. And the double 30 second horseshoe spray is to die for. It takes a fevered genius like John to say the unsayable. DD's are here forever. We all forget that Whirlpool is still here, when most of its competitors and betters are long dead. Wish i had a pic, it has 10 nice huge black push-buttons and two big black dials.......darn. And although one adores the BD's the DD's have evolutionary engineering superiority. Hey, it's Whirlpool, still with us; we should be in awe of them. | ||
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Post# 388084 , Reply# 8 10/25/2009 at 21:47 (5,289 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Well, I'm not disputing what he is saying, and John already knows I kvetch. I just don't see the first bit of "charm" in A DD. | ||
| Post# 388086 , Reply# 9 10/25/2009 at 22:04 (5,289 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Charm? Gyrafoam could you please clarify what you mean by "charm"? | ||
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Post# 388089 , Reply# 10 10/25/2009 at 22:08 (5,289 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Ha, here we go-------well, the sights and sounds of a vintage DD. Kool agitators,the Roto-Swirl and the Surgilator, waterfall lint-filters, etc. | ||
| Post# 388104 , Reply# 12 10/25/2009 at 23:26 (5,289 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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His point wasn't coolness it was reliability I agree, the DD is an excellent machine from a reliability standpoint, and I don't think anyone would argue there weren't (aren't) very interesting from a coolness standpoint, but I do totally agree with combo52. My two cents. S | ||
| Post# 388108 , Reply# 13 10/26/2009 at 00:23 (5,289 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
1988-1995 do have the Triple Dispenser system that is pretty | ||
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Post# 388148 , Reply# 14 10/26/2009 at 08:28 (5,289 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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When I think of a DD as a collectible, I think of the very first ones that did the "spin-drain". That is something I think of as unique and one of those, especially in its KAid counterpart, would be something I would find interesting. | ||
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Post# 388163 , Reply# 15 10/26/2009 at 09:24 (5,289 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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I am somewhat glad to see that the merits of the DD machines are coming to light a little bit here. I am not a huge fan, though I own one which I will keep. I have always thought the machines got a bad 'rap' here, though Steve's sentiment is certainly valid that there isn't much to get enthused about in the generic world of DD machines. But, thinking about the times we live-in, they could be a lot worse. At least, for now anyway, Whirlpool continues to build these in AMERICA, most have porcelain tubs, and they are one of the most experienced designs on the market. One interesting note that came to mind last week when I was doing a little bit of DD research online and looking at Whirlpool's various manufacturer sites....the comment is still out there (which I used to see everywhere) touting the benefits of the DirectDrive's design in which there are no belts to break, which supposedly saves service calls and money. There was a time back in the 1960s when belts on BD machines wore out and broke at least once in a machine's service life. During the later 60s, the composition of the belts changed, making them more pliant, durable, and less likely to break. In my opinion anyway, the direct replacement of a belt in the DD design is the coupler, since it is that which transfers the motor's power to the transmission, which is what the belt does. Well...and we all know what I'm about to say....couplers break or wear out FAR MORE FREQUENTLY in DDs than belts ever did in BDs, no? Most 1980s BD machines I came across in the late 90s, and even now, have their original belts in them. Just thought that was interesting..... Gordon | ||
| Post# 388200 , Reply# 17 10/26/2009 at 11:03 (5,289 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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But dear friend, Gordon, the trick is
to get the KA coupler or the new Maytag coupler which is heavier, more durable and not prone to break, yes? I've heard it's at least twice as strong, and very rarely snaps. Again, have any of you nice folks seen the double Horseshoe 30 second spray rinse which is very dramatic, hits all the clothes directly in a blow-back arched sheet of water, hardly lackluster and puts most spray rinses to shame. Even better, the Casual Cycle of the Center Dial Maytag (WP's, of course) does the double 30 second spray rinse TWICE, two full minutes of forceful spray-- Maytag trumps Itself, that is, the Old Tag really knew how to spray rinse, and the new "TAG" takes it to the next level, doubling WP's former DD Spray. And of course I still love the BE's spray rinse "cycle": More sprays, shorter in duration, nice easy spinning, multiple intense valve music, totaling 48 seconds--one of my all time favorite washer moves, as is the DD version. I run to the washer to catch these moves--honest. | ||
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Post# 388438 , Reply# 19 10/27/2009 at 08:02 (5,288 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Fun direct drives
Their are many DDs with lots of drama. To start with thier were more than 10 models with florescence console lights, many high end models had the triple wash through dispenser systems (the best system ever installed on a TL washer) many also had three speed motors with a fourth choise of intermittent ex low agitation.For even more drama you can models with a real suds-saver that agitates while returning the sudsy wash water. Also look for the fun kenmore cattiest cleaning models that spin and recirulate sudsy wash water at the beginning of the wash cycle (by pass the lid switch to really watch the fun. Thier were also KM & WP models called the resource savers that sprayed fresh water in at full spin speed while recirculating the water out a second flume lots of fun to watch and they worked great. Thier has been at least a dozen different agitators used in DD washers and they all interchange as they say look in your own back yard and grab some of the fun machines out there they will be classics some day. With advancing energy standards the future of TL washers is very uncertain. I have more than 200 hundred classic appliances but just like cars the ones made in the last 25 years make much better daily drivers.
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| Post# 388506 , Reply# 20 10/27/2009 at 14:33 (5,288 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Good Lord--another trip thru washer heaven
I knew about the Catalyst, and saw the action, but had no clue about what went on the in the " Resource Savers" I saw a model on the floor in one of big appliance store in the mid 90's and from what I could deduce from the dial and the enclosed lit, it was a SPRAY RINSE CYCLE ONLY. How I'd love to see it with the giant horse shoe flume spray, I wonder how long the each spray lasted. The Dial span for the rinse looked to be 7 or eight minutes. But I had no idea there was a second flume recirculating the rinse water. that's so gosh darn cool. John, do you have one of these machines, and could you describe more of the magical goings-on during this Energy Saving Rinse. It was a one year wonder, I think, because after that one time, I never saw it again, and that was before I realized that I could buy a second washer not caring who though I was crazy for doing so. & If I could turn back time & (Cher) When You have time,,,,,,,Thank You, tall slender genius. NIce time with you on Canton. MIke | ||
| Post# 388527 , Reply# 21 10/27/2009 at 15:40 (5,288 days old) by ingliscanada () | ||
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The times they are a'changin! I grew up hearing Inglis/Kenmore washers going woo-woo-woo-woo, then click into drain, then grind-click into spin. Now it's thunka-thunka-thunka-thunka, short pause, drain, klunk and short pause, then spin. | ||
| Post# 388545 , Reply# 22 10/27/2009 at 17:15 (5,288 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Indeed, Inglis | ||
| Post# 388745 , Reply# 23 10/28/2009 at 10:46 (5,287 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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"What? What? Tell me more! " OK westingman123
Keith, Just go to your local appliance parts store and ask for either the KA or the Maytag agitator coupler. The appliance stores here have them on display on a display board showing the "superior parts" :-> or some such, of the new Center Dial Tags, which as we all know are Whirlpools. We got our Mom this machine last Christmas, and to my delight, the accutemp fills alternate the and cold exactly like the 55 pulsamatics, the quick clicks and whooshes are identical. Really Freaky. And on the causual cycle, this machines does the horse shoe 30 second spray rinse FOUR times. A real delight. Casual is the new permanent press. | ||
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