Thread Number: 25186
Miele Dishwashers
[Down to Last]

automaticwasher.org's exclusive eBay Watch:
scroll >>> for more items --- [As an eBay Partner, eBay may compensate automaticwasher.org if you make a purchase using any link to eBay on this page]
Post# 388472   10/27/2009 at 12:07 (5,288 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Everyone! I was wondering how many of you have a Miele Dishwasher. A La Perla or any other one for that matter.
How do you like them? Do they clean well? Are they better than your previous dishwashers?

Thanks so much.

Ray





Post# 388484 , Reply# 1   10/27/2009 at 12:42 (5,288 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

nmassman44's profile picture
I have a Miele LaPerla dishwasher. Going on 2 years now with no problems what so ever. Cleans well and is quiet as a mouse. Love my dishwasher. Very versatile and economical to run. It replaced a Fisher and Paykel dishdrawer. The dishdrawer gave up the ghost after 3 years. I would never recommend a dishdrawer to people that cook and entertain alot. The concept is neat but thats where it ends. Thats my opinion and my experience with it.

Post# 388485 , Reply# 2   10/27/2009 at 12:43 (5,288 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

nmassman44's profile picture
here is a pic.

Post# 388493 , Reply# 3   10/27/2009 at 13:20 (5,288 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Mike. Thanks for your advice. I remembered that someone on the club had one, and was not sure if it was you. lol

I do cook a lot and put as much as possible in my dishwasher. I just hear so much bad about all the newer ones not cleaning well. Comsumer reports rated Bosch very well, but when you look at the consumer reviews of the people that have them, they were not good. I think the average rating was2 1/2 stars out of 5. I would rather hear from people first hand that are using them.

How does it handle pots, pans etc>/

DOes yours have the air dry feature, which forces air to aid in drying?

Can it be hooked up to hot water?

Thanks again.

Ray


Post# 388495 , Reply# 4   10/27/2009 at 13:31 (5,288 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
**DROOL!!!**

pulsator's profile picture
That Miele dishwasher is GORGEOUS!

Post# 388496 , Reply# 5   10/27/2009 at 13:33 (5,288 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Jamie.... Peteski and I saw them in the Miele Princeton showroom. Talk about DROOLING???? You should see the showroom and all that is in it. You can even bring a load of wash to do in the Miele 4840. You have to call first.

Now how is that for customer service??

The showroom has cooking demos throughout the month. We were invited to stay for dinner, which was fabulous.


Post# 388497 , Reply# 6   10/27/2009 at 13:45 (5,288 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

nmassman44's profile picture
Ray the LaPerla can go either way with water connection hot or cold. It has in inline water heater that boosts the water temp rather quickly. Each cycle on the dishwasher has its own spray pressure. Pots and Pans and Heavy aka Intensive has the most pressure. The Pots-n- Pans cycle also heats the water to a blazin 170F. It cuts thru anything I can throw at it. Even has a cycle for Starchy foods like pasta and potatoes. It changes the cycle parameters to the soils. I have been finding myself using the Sensor Cycle alot lately. The dishwasher monitors water temp and how soiled the water is and adjusts the cycle to only use what it needs.
It also has a water harness sensor and a water softener. With the upcoming ban on phosphates in detergents coming up in 2010 and having moderately hard water I have a machine that will adapt. I can also tell the dishwasher what type of detergent I am using...Powder...Gel...2in1 tabs 3in1 tabs. Plus this machine can be updated by computer by Miele to give new cycles and change out settings.
I have the CleanAir system in my Miele where it will pull the air into the baseplate of the dishwasher and circulate it up the back and around a channel so the steam inside condenses on the walls. It uses the residual heat to dry the dishes. It dries very well. But you have to use a rinse aid to make it work properly.
Racking on this machine is extremely versatile. The lower rack plate racks pop out and so does the upper rack plate rack. The upper rack raises and lowers plus if I wash tall items in the top rack I can take out the silverware tray rack. I can also take the upper rack out and put my oven racks in the dishwasher.Refrigerator shelves go in as well. There is a cycle for that as well.
CU has never rated a Miele LaPerla. I wish they did it would really give the other brands a good run. Cost wise made us go youch but in the end this is my dishwasher that will last a long long time. Its a 20 year machine and if I am around long enough to see it last that long we would have gotten our moneys worth out of it.


Post# 388501 , Reply# 7   10/27/2009 at 14:03 (5,288 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Mike, The reason I asked about the water hook up is that my current dishwasher uses hot and the kitchen is new. Would not want to have to re do the plumbing. Is your machine hooked up to hot or cold.

With this drying system.....is any of the steam expelled from the door? Do the dishes come out fairly dry?

I have a water softner for the whole house. I do know what you mean about the deterents not cleaning as well. I have soft water, so this helps a lot.


Post# 388505 , Reply# 8   10/27/2009 at 14:33 (5,288 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Drooling as well

mrb627's profile picture
I am drooling over this dishwasher as well. Might make a worthy Xmas present. After you ordered it, how long did you have to wait before it was installed? Did it have to come from the other side of the planet after it was ordered or was it stocked somewhere in the states?

MRB


Post# 388508 , Reply# 9   10/27/2009 at 14:51 (5,288 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
I have one too

vacbear58's profile picture
if not as flashy looking or as sophisticated as Mike's sadly. I have had it for 6 1/2 years and it works well, and its quiet too, although a little more noisy during the hot air drying cycle. There is some hot air comes out of the little grill on the front whilst drying - but it is certainlynot a stream of steam.

Like most European dishwashers mine works on cold fill. Results are usually good, and I particularly like the cutlery tray rather than a basket - friends laugh at me as I am so particular in sorting the cutlery to load it.
Al


Post# 388509 , Reply# 10   10/27/2009 at 14:52 (5,288 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Malcolm. I think they are usually stocked in appliance stores. At least in our area. You would just love to see the Miele showroom. It was such a nice experience. Looking are every single appliance, every model was just great. Then having dinner cooked in all these appliances was the best.

Post# 388510 , Reply# 11   10/27/2009 at 14:54 (5,288 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Mike, THanks again for the detailed positive information on the La Perla
IIRC, the new La Perla's door opens by itself at the end of the cycle to emit any steam to aid in better drying


Post# 388517 , Reply# 12   10/27/2009 at 15:05 (5,288 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
La Perla II here...

I have the La Perla II. I purchased mine 2 two months ago and it is a fabulous machine. By far the nicest dishwasher I've ever owned or used. The racks do take a little getting used to. But, the more I use this machine the more I find I can load into it. It is very quiet and cleans very, very well. I had mine hooked up to cold water as I have a lot of fine china that was my grandmothers and felt better knowing the machine would heat the water to precisely the right temperature itself ( 115 degrees F on the China & Crystal cycle ). I find that this machine takes no longer to complete a cycle than the Kenmore Elite that it replaced. Mike is right, the Pots & Pans cycle packs fierce wallop of high pressure and high temperature. No dirt survives. My flatware gleams when I take it out as does my stainless steel pots and pans. I highly recommend this dishwasher to anyone. If you entertain a lot, this dishwasher is great. It can hold a lot of dishes at once.

When I have my dinner parties, I fill the machine up all day with my prep dishes. Just before people start to arrive, I start up the machine and let them wash while we are eating. Then after everyone leaves, I unload and put in the dinner dishes. In the past with my other machines, I would sometimes have to run the dishwasher twice before my guests arrived and generally twice afterwards. I hope this information helps. Any questions please let me know.

Chris


Post# 388518 , Reply# 13   10/27/2009 at 15:14 (5,288 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Chris, Thanks for all the great feed back. Does your door open at the end of the cycle to aid in drying? I know they are expensive....but I think they are worth it. They range in price between 2149.00 and 2349.00 here in Jersey. I guess that would be the same throughout the states?

Thanks,

Ray


Post# 388525 , Reply# 14   10/27/2009 at 15:26 (5,288 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
Hi Ray

Yes, the door does open several inches by itself at the end of the cycle to allow any remaining moisture to evaporate. The nifty thing is that when the door does open at the end, there is no burst of steam escaping. The condensation drying along with its "Internal Turbothermic Fan drying" eliminates any steam. But, Miele does add an extra assurance that your countertops won't be damaged by including a steel plate which is attached under the counter top right up to the edge. So, no need to worry about warping of laminate counters like mine. I paid $2498 for mine in stainless steel and that included MD sales tax. I still shiver sometimes when I look at the receipt. But I love this dishwasher. I have included a link to the video I posted of the "Drying Plus" feature which will show you the door popping open at the end of the dry cycle. There is also another vid of the Maiden Load I washed in it.

Chris


CLICK HERE TO GO TO neptuneguy27's LINK


Post# 388531 , Reply# 15   10/27/2009 at 16:11 (5,288 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

nmassman44's profile picture
Mine is connected to hot water. Also there is no steam that escapes when it is drying. With granite coutertops they put the mounting screws into the sides of the door opening. It took about a week to get it installed. It was in stock in NJ so it was trucked up to Massachusetts. We paid about $2200 for it and we bought when the state was giving us a sales tax holiday. Installation was a killer...the guy charged us $300...if I knew how easy it was to install i would have done it myself. The dishwasher comes with an adapter for the water intake since the water valve is connected to the inlet hose at the source.
The one thing that you will notice is how quiet the machine is. When we first got it Scott was standing right next to the dishwasher and I had started it about a half hour before he came into the kitchen. He asked me if I was going to start the dishwasher and I said its already on. He said to me...no its not I told him open the door...he did and was he surprised at what he didnt hear...the noise. It will be about the quietest dishwasher you will ever experience.


Post# 388538 , Reply# 16   10/27/2009 at 17:03 (5,288 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
My Miele dishwashers

Hello! This is my G 1830 Sci. I think it's quite similar to your "La perla model"

Post# 388540 , Reply# 17   10/27/2009 at 17:09 (5,288 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
Hard time for my G 690 Sci

This is my G690 after a dinner with friends...tons of dirty dishes, glasses and pots and pans but the G 690 knows how to handle it... :-)

Post# 388541 , Reply# 18   10/27/2009 at 17:11 (5,288 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
The Miele G 591Sc

This is one of my older Miele dishwashers. It still goes strong after almost 20 years of faithful service

Post# 388543 , Reply# 19   10/27/2009 at 17:13 (5,288 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
G591 sci

The G591 while doing its duty

Post# 388544 , Reply# 20   10/27/2009 at 17:14 (5,288 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
My G696 Sensorplus

This is my G696 Sci Sensorplus.

Post# 388547 , Reply# 21   10/27/2009 at 17:16 (5,288 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
G690 load

An average load for my G 690 Sci

Post# 388548 , Reply# 22   10/27/2009 at 17:27 (5,288 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
Other Miele dishwashers

I own three more Miele dishwashers, a G647 Sc Plus, an old G595sci and a vintage G45 (not working). The picture refers to the G595Sci

Post# 388549 , Reply# 23   10/27/2009 at 17:28 (5,288 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
G45

An old picture of my G45 taken from Internet

Post# 388559 , Reply# 24   10/27/2009 at 18:17 (5,288 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Our Miele dishwasher is coming up to 4 years old now and is absolutely superb. Only complaint I have is that the cutlery tray limits the height of tall wine glasses in the middle basket, but the space it frees up in the bottom is worth it. Best racking system ever - can fit anythign in anywhere, and it washes everything clean - though admittedly we always use Pots & Pans 75*C.

Bewitched - love all your Miele dishwashers, I presume you own a few houses?

Jon


Post# 388562 , Reply# 25   10/27/2009 at 18:26 (5,288 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
Here are some

Pictures of my Miele loaded up with tonights load.

Post# 388564 , Reply# 26   10/27/2009 at 18:27 (5,288 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
Another

view of the lower rack

Post# 388565 , Reply# 27   10/27/2009 at 18:28 (5,288 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
Upper

rack

Post# 388566 , Reply# 28   10/27/2009 at 18:29 (5,288 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
Cutlery tray

not so full

Post# 388567 , Reply# 29   10/27/2009 at 18:30 (5,288 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
And a

Glamour Shot!

Post# 388571 , Reply# 30   10/27/2009 at 18:49 (5,288 days old) by favorit ()        
Miele quality is the same 4 BOL and TOL models

Hi Ray,
with the price of the G2872xxx (LaPerla) you can buy nearly two Inspiras (G2182)....
No doubt, La Perla is glamorous : touchscreen, self opening and self closing door, 16 (sixteen!!) programmes (too many)....

An Inspira has all the key features/programmes , cleans/dryes as well as LaPerla and has the same built quality.
This doesn't apply to BOL Bosch (perhaps here in EU). BOL Bosches have a plastic tub ground matched with SS tub walls and ceiling, while MOL and TOL are full SS.
A BOL miele can even be cheaper than a MOL/TOL Bosch/Siemens but has a better quality built

If you often need fast washes, take into consideration a model (e.g. G2143) having the "Turbo". This option cuts washing times f###ing energy star codes - more water and pressure as old mieles

Hot water fill - check miele eurosites, they're pushing us to hot fill to save energy, in case of solar/gas heated hot water. Beyond energy saving, hot fill is better if your cold water is really cold : no danger of discoloured plastics

Anyway get a tall tub model : be sure of the "2" after the G (G2XXX)

Now I've an A.E.G...Favorit, cause 10 years ago miele didn't sell stainless steel door DW. Next one I'll go back to miele

@ Marco/Bewitched : what about the microwave/forced air oven over the G 696 ?


Post# 388576 , Reply# 31   10/27/2009 at 19:03 (5,288 days old) by favorit ()        
Ray, i apologize ...

but this is getting into a nice DW picture thread !!

My Oeko Favorit 6071 closed. Pity, this kitchen can't fit a talltub. Next one will be a G1???


Post# 388602 , Reply# 32   10/27/2009 at 20:08 (5,288 days old) by hometechdoc ()        
La Perla in waiting

I have a La Perla in the garage waiting to be installed. Our new house has a MOL Bosch that is about six or seven years old and I am not impressed. I installed a Miele in my last house about ten years ago and loved it. Mieles are quiet, efficient, and do an amazing job. Like many of you, I put everything in with no prerinsing and don't run the machine until it is full. Our household is two active professionals who travel a great deal for our work, thus it is often one to two weeks between loads. Everything comes out sparkling.

Post# 388700 , Reply# 33   10/28/2009 at 07:59 (5,287 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Hello!
Jon: the G1830 is installed in my house, the G690 is in the cabinet in the wood I do own with my hubby, the G591 is installed in my holiday house in Corsica. The G696 Sensorplus is in the house my hubby usually lives and the others (G647 plus,G595 and G45 are in storage). I would love to repair and "have a tour" with my Miele G45...

Favorit: The oven on the counter is a Miele M700. Is a real "three ovens in one". It has microwaves,cooks with forced air or with "static" heat and has the grill. Microwaves can be used in combination with any of the other cooking methods. I never found another compact oven like it and despite it is quite old it works perfectly. I also have three "microwave" ovens all Miele branded. I bought the first (M636) but it had problems with the door switch. I discovered it was not a genuine Miele product so I wrote a long letter to Miele in Germany complaining about it. I was contacted by a Miele engineer who explained me microwave ovens are too expensive to produce and prices would have been fairly high so they decided to outsource them. He offered to swap my oven with a new genuine one ( Supratronic M754) made when they still produced them. This is wonderful, a product you can say it is Miele at a glance. Unfortunately it didn't have the "normal heating", just microwaves and grill. I swapped the M636 anyway but we needed an oven with the "forced air heating" and after using the M754 for years we bought our current M637EC and I gave "the original" to my hubby for his home. The M637 is still outsourced (I guess by the Fagor-Brandt group) but seems to have a better reliability. The M637 is the last compact microwave oven also sporting "forced air heating", microwaves and grill Miele put on the market. The M 700 is an original Miele product.


Post# 388724 , Reply# 34   10/28/2009 at 09:23 (5,287 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

I would like to say Thank You to everyone who contributed to this thread, especially Mike, Chris, Marco, Jonathan, Favorit, and Allen. The pictures of all your dishwashers and kitchens are really nice.

Favorit......Don't worry about it being a picture thread. This is what I really wanted. Great job for starting it. Thank you so much for you input on these machines. I will compare the La Perla and Inspira.

It is so nice to see that most Europeans appreciate quality, especially the guys from Italy, Germany and the UK. I know these machines are quite expensive, but if they last long, they are worth it. Most Americans buy machines that barely last 3-5 years.

So....keep the Miele Glamour shots coming...... OR

if you have a dishwasher, (any brand that you like), post it here. Not just a Miele thread anymore..... lol

Ray


Post# 388727 , Reply# 35   10/28/2009 at 09:58 (5,287 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Ray - here's a link to a vid of our Miele dishwasher. Fairly average load for us - plates, glasses, cups, oven trays etc. No load is the same though as it is so damn flexible!

Excuse the clanging in the background - had jeans and a couple of belts in the tumble dryer!

Jon


CLICK HERE TO GO TO lavamat_jon's LINK


Post# 388734 , Reply# 36   10/28/2009 at 10:11 (5,287 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Just for reference in my vid - the buzzing at 2.10 is the salt regenerating, at 2.27 the fill stops and the recirculation starts.

The vid shows how quiet it is, you can hear the television in the next room (coincidentally, at around 30 seconds you hear the Persil Small and Mighty advert).

Jon


Post# 388802 , Reply# 37   10/28/2009 at 13:55 (5,287 days old) by dblrinz ()        
Feed Back, Please

Though some time off so we can save, we are planning a kitchen renovation, currently the plan is to install 2 Kitchenaids or boschs due to the fact that when we entertain or have a simple family gathering it is at least 18 people. Would you recommend 1 Miele over two of any other brand? The plan is to replace the dual dishwashers with Mieles when the others give up the ghost...Thoughts?

Post# 388814 , Reply# 38   10/28/2009 at 14:58 (5,287 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Kitchaid is not what they used to be. And although Bosch was rated number 1 by Consumer Reports, the users comments were not favorable at all. It only got a 2 1/2 star rating out of 5 by 39 users. I would go with the Miele.

Post# 388823 , Reply# 39   10/28/2009 at 15:30 (5,287 days old) by favorit ()        
18 people at least ?

with the G 8050 / 8051 / 8052 you'd need just one DW.
These are semi-commercial integrated models running @ 230V / 13 A. They run the fastest cycle within 23 mins (hot fill). The downside : they are available only in europe.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK


Post# 388826 , Reply# 40   10/28/2009 at 15:49 (5,287 days old) by dogboy44 (Los Angeles)        
No wonder they are so clean

the cycle takes 2 1/2 hours! I thought our bosch was bad at 1 3/4

Post# 388827 , Reply# 41   10/28/2009 at 15:50 (5,287 days old) by favorit ()        
professional fresh water DW

in the US is available the G7856. Shortest wash cycle takes ten minutes (208/240 V , single phase 2x30 A)
These professional DW can have a variety of different lower/upper racks depending on your needs

Anyway the cheapest solution is made by two BOL domestic Inspiras or a MOL Diamante + a BOL Inspira


CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK


Post# 388830 , Reply# 42   10/28/2009 at 16:03 (5,287 days old) by favorit ()        
Turbo - VarioSpeed - SpeedMatic

Dogboy, latest Bosch/Siemens have the VarioSpeed/SpeedMatic option to reduce up to 50% washing times.

The very same thing is called by Miele as Turbo.

This option can be selected in normal/sensor/pots'n'pan/eco cycles, so these endless cycles are reduced to a more reasonable 70 mins

The 2 models i've just posted take less than 40 min to run the longest cycle ... but are Energy Dust compliant ;-)


Post# 388862 , Reply# 43   10/28/2009 at 19:33 (5,287 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
VarioSpeed is great.

logixx's profile picture
I just ran a load in our Siemens: autoWash 131 - 149°F with VarioSpeed, 1/2 Load option and Sanitize. The dishwasher ran through a wash, a hot rinse, the sani-rinse and the drying cycle in just 71 minutes. And it was actually a full load - just used the 1/2 Load option to make it even faster.

Post# 388915 , Reply# 44   10/28/2009 at 22:09 (5,287 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Pardon this question,didn't Miele produce the concentration camp ovens? This has always bothered me,but I'd like clarity on the issue. Thanks.

Post# 388967 , Reply# 45   10/29/2009 at 00:20 (5,286 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Hi Mr Clean Jeans,
I'm afraid I didn't understand your question. What is a concentration camp oven?


Post# 388969 , Reply# 46   10/29/2009 at 00:25 (5,286 days old) by appnut (TX)        
concentration camp oven

appnut's profile picture
The ovens used in Nazi Concentration camps to destroy dead bodies.

Post# 388974 , Reply# 47   10/29/2009 at 01:24 (5,286 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

launderess's profile picture
Topf and Sons built the cremation ovens at Buchenwald and Auschwitz.

Post# 388986 , Reply# 48   10/29/2009 at 04:39 (5,286 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Pardon this question,didn't Miele produce the concentrat

What relevance does this have?

This is a dishwasher thread... please do not try and degrade the subject. Many companies in Nazi Germany were forced to do what the Nazi's want to or face being put in the camps themselves... what other option would you have?

Let sleeping dogs lie and let's get back to dishwashers...


Post# 389012 , Reply# 49   10/29/2009 at 07:15 (5,286 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

For the heaven's sake! I didn't understand! I'm a real nut! I was thinking about some fancy feature of Miele ovens...I wasn't mean to be disrespectful!

Post# 389035 , Reply# 50   10/29/2009 at 10:38 (5,286 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

But those dishwashers are made by Miele, therefore the question is a legitimate one. I'm not excusing or accusing, just asking about it. Thanks for the answers people.

Post# 389071 , Reply# 51   10/29/2009 at 12:17 (5,286 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

I never heard such a thing! I hope they have nothing to do with those ovens. History tells Miele founders created a place where workers loved to stay and many other facilities for them but who knows? War times were very hard times...


Post# 389081 , Reply# 52   10/29/2009 at 12:46 (5,286 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        
Oké miele during war-time

produced untill halfway 1940'ties the 'normal' products like washer, mangles, but also stairs and even bikes... Then they where forced to change to war-time products like small stoves to steam food for the animals,manly potatoes (untill 1941), and handchariots for the military and civilmarket, but also pieces for planes (due to their know-how in wood and metalconstructions).

Besides all that, what is the shortest program on your miele dishwasher? Mine is Normal 50°C = 70 min but everything is spotless!


Post# 389109 , Reply# 53   10/29/2009 at 14:35 (5,286 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
Shortest Program

On my Miele is "Express" at 36 minutes. Haven't used it yet to wash any dishes but did run it once last week when I spilled rinse aid all over the door.

Chris


Post# 389147 , Reply# 54   10/29/2009 at 17:45 (5,286 days old) by dogboy44 (Los Angeles)        
yes we have the cycle reducer "opti-saver"

on the bosch it goes from 108 min down to 71 and I do use it, but if it is a really full load (Bob) it needs the full time.

Post# 389163 , Reply# 55   10/29/2009 at 18:15 (5,286 days old) by gregorps ()        
My bottom of the line Miele ...

Hey guys -- new here --- dropped in for a long time to admire your collections and knowledge. Decided it was time to be counted ... My Miele started life two houses ago and was white control panel with wood front ... I bought new house with new KitchenAid Superba (Whirlpool/KitchenAid == garbage) After 1 week I went back to the old house swapped out the old Miele for new KitchenAid ... then called Miele and found out I could buy new stainless steel control panel as well as new front panel ... bingo! new looking machine for $350. Miele said they build the machines to last 30 years so ALL appearace items can be changed out ... If I wasn't already sold, I called service recently and the tech in New Jersey was able to run a full chekout of my machine in Palm Springs CA over the phone and we determined that: a. The inflow filter was clogged or b. The fill sensor needed replacement. (It was 'a' and repaired in 15 minutes). Amazing -- I would never buy anything else ... by the way have no problems with my wine glasses (basic Williams-Sonoma 9" tall) besides Miele offers more racks and accessories than Kirby has attachments! lol ....

By the way .... It was Krups that built the 'ovens' in WWII - so I guess you throw away your coffee pot and keep the DW....


Post# 389164 , Reply# 56   10/29/2009 at 18:16 (5,286 days old) by gregorps ()        
and...

Interior ...

Post# 389212 , Reply# 57   10/29/2009 at 20:22 (5,286 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Good to know Greg. Thanks. Wouldn't buy Krups anyway, overpriced for what you get.

Post# 389333 , Reply# 58   10/30/2009 at 08:30 (5,285 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

I guess we are pretty lucky in NJ. WE have the showroom in Princeton, and can get any Miele appliance quickly. Although, I believe NY is the same.


Gregory, That was quite impressive that the tech was able to do over the phone. I know in our area that a tech can come out to your home for this.


Post# 389445 , Reply# 59   10/30/2009 at 13:09 (5,285 days old) by drhardee ( Columbia, SC)        

drhardee's profile picture
I have the immediate predecessor (2005) to the "LaPerla", the G898SCI "Premiere Plus". Back in 2006, it retailed for $2,395, but I purchased a end-of-model-year floor model for $1,295. It's been nothing but wonderful. It's needed one repair which was handled under warranty. It does seem to clean better with Miele tablets, than some powders. The gel detergents make the unit create foam excessively it seems, so I avoid those.
I fully expect to get 20 years out of this unit!


Post# 389447 , Reply# 60   10/30/2009 at 13:14 (5,285 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Dave.... Thanks for the postive information. Now.....if I can just find a bargain like you , I will be all set.


Thanks again


Ray


Post# 389593 , Reply# 61   10/30/2009 at 21:14 (5,285 days old) by gregorps ()        
Showroom ...

LOL ... yeah we have quite the showroom in Beverly Hills, with Saturday cooking school and sampling ... and quite crusy!

Home service is certainly avail --- but my point is that all Miele machines are self diagnostic ... all of those new LaPrelas can have optional WiFi automatic connection with New Jersy mothership that see service issues before they happen... new Miele refrigs can tell NY if the ice maker has a leak or power failure and Miele will call you on your cell phone ... !!!!

BUT ... hey I couldn't be happier with my machine ... All machines have same motor, wash arms and nearly all American machines have water softeners ... A VERY GOOD THING since softeners are being outlawed in CA due to the extreme environmental damage they do to the water tables ....


Post# 389805 , Reply# 62   10/31/2009 at 19:05 (5,284 days old) by dogboy44 (Los Angeles)        
the top cutlery rack

just seems a little fussy to me. laying out all the knives and forks just so. I always thought the first step in loading one of these is to insert your butt plug nice and tight.

Post# 389815 , Reply# 63   10/31/2009 at 19:55 (5,284 days old) by favorit ()        
SC = 3rd rack , no SC = no 3rd rack

models badged "G XXXX SC" have the cutlery rack, those whitout "SC" haven't. Usually BOL and MOL models come in both versions

despite i'm sure it washes better, the idea of loading forks knives and spoons one by one is hard to accept ...

anyway the 3rd rack can be removed in case of need of extra height in the upper rack ( this works for big dinner plates in both racks)


Post# 390004 , Reply# 64   11/1/2009 at 13:31 (5,283 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

I've got a G2220 which is a Tall tub Model now about 4 years old.

It is a stellar performer, the sensor cycle on light loads gets everything clean in about 90mins (30mins of which is drying) or 120mins for a heavy load (30mins of which is drying)

I find it easy to load, it holds plenty, and I only remove bones, pits etc from plates, vegetable left overs like onion, lettuce, carrot etc just stay on the plate when it goes in. I check the filter each month and occaisionally might remove a stray bean or piece of spaghetti.

I wouldnt get a non tall tub miele with the cuttlery rack as loading space would be compromised, as it is more of my wine glasses just clear the bottom of the cuttlery rack when loading.

Second, whilst the machines are very well made, you may or may not need service. Mine is one of the early 2000 series machines, and it had a bad habit initially of choking on Olive pits and the cartlidge on the end of chicken bones. after 3 $130 service calls, MieleRod advised that there was a set of teeth that can be added to the filter. A $5 part and its never been clogged again. I had the drying fan fail at 3 years old, and Miele replaced it free out charge (1 year outside warranty) as there were known issues with this component. The Blower fan assembley is huge, so its no wonder the dishwasher dries like it does after the final 65deg Rinse.

I cant imagine going back to anything else. Other dishwashers I've used can clean as well, but are usually noisier or have painful racking. If you've got the money, go for it.


Post# 390045 , Reply# 65   11/1/2009 at 16:53 (5,283 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
My Baby...

seamusuk's profile picture
G1225SC brought May this year :)

In my opinion it was worth every penny of the £500 (trade price!!) it cost me.

It has the turbo option that reduces the cycle times considerably without compromising performance by using more water /higher pressure(I never use it tho- it goes on time delay overnight to take advantage of cheap rate overnight electricity).

It also has a setting for combined tablets designed to optomise their performance- ive never used it as Im a believer in seperate products but it adds to the cycle times.

9/10 times I use the sensor cycle- normally runs approx 1hr 40 mins- as I said brfore time isnt an issue with my useage pattern lol!.

Seamus


Post# 390046 , Reply# 66   11/1/2009 at 16:54 (5,283 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Racks/ Tray

seamusuk's profile picture
.


Forum Index:       Other Forums:                      



Comes to the Rescue!

The Discuss-o-Mat has stopped, buzzer is sounding!!!
If you would like to reply to this thread please log-in...

Discuss-O-MAT Log-In



New Members
Click Here To Sign Up.



                     


automaticwasher.org home
Discuss-o-Mat Forums
Vintage Brochures, Service and Owners Manuals
Fun Vintage Washer Ephemera
See It Wash!
Video Downloads
Audio Downloads
Picture of the Day
Patent of the Day
Photos of our Collections
The Old Aberdeen Farm
Vintage Service Manuals
Vintage washer/dryer/dishwasher to sell?
Technical/service questions?
Looking for Parts?
Website related questions?
Digital Millennium Copyright Act Policy
Our Privacy Policy