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Post# 389138   10/29/2009 at 17:29 (5,282 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Found this in the haulaways today...

A Kitchenaid KDS19. VERY CLEAN! I haven't been able to play... ERRMMM... test it yet, but so far it needs door springs.





Post# 389139 , Reply# 1   10/29/2009 at 17:30 (5,282 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Closeup of the console...

Post# 389140 , Reply# 2   10/29/2009 at 17:34 (5,282 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Console right side

Post# 389141 , Reply# 3   10/29/2009 at 17:34 (5,282 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Console left side

Post# 389142 , Reply# 4   10/29/2009 at 17:35 (5,282 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Say ahhhh!

Post# 389143 , Reply# 5   10/29/2009 at 17:36 (5,282 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The inside of the tub is so clean. No rust or chips anywhere.

Post# 389145 , Reply# 6   10/29/2009 at 17:38 (5,282 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The racks are also in perfect condition.

Post# 389146 , Reply# 7   10/29/2009 at 17:39 (5,282 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
The model tag...

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Any ideas on age? I can't wait until I can see what's up with it. Anything I should be looking for?

RCD


Post# 389149 , Reply# 8   10/29/2009 at 17:50 (5,282 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
A Very Well preserved Dowager..

Will never reveal her age!
Beautiful machine for sure and you can check one of the other threads on here for the production dates on the machine, It wasn't made for too long a period. Yours looks hardly used!
The 20 has a nearly identical console but a change in the cycles and of course the heated dry!



Post# 389150 , Reply# 9   10/29/2009 at 17:59 (5,282 days old) by dogboy44 (Los Angeles)        
I am guessing

1982?

Post# 389151 , Reply# 10   10/29/2009 at 18:00 (5,282 days old) by dogboy44 (Los Angeles)        
I am guessing

1982?

Post# 389152 , Reply# 11   10/29/2009 at 18:00 (5,282 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Beautiful! Now if you convert it to heated dry, you'll really be grooving

Post# 389154 , Reply# 12   10/29/2009 at 18:02 (5,282 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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looks beautiful, how I wish I could find one of those around here

Post# 389170 , Reply# 13   10/29/2009 at 18:36 (5,282 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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WOW, minty inside and out! So, which Kitchen-aid dishwasher are you gonna end up keeping by the years end?

Post# 389171 , Reply# 14   10/29/2009 at 18:40 (5,282 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
KDS19

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We had the same exact machine in white. Made from mid 1979 until about 5/1981
Realy good machine. Even without the heated dry it worked good if you used jetdry.
Peter


Post# 389177 , Reply# 15   10/29/2009 at 18:51 (5,282 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
KDS 19

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Peter is right on target with the age of this DW. You don't need heated dry I never use it where I live and with the the low humidity you have I dough you would need it either.

Post# 389178 , Reply# 16   10/29/2009 at 18:52 (5,282 days old) by magic clean ()        
Still

has the black rubber lower rack shipping bumper in place in the right rear corner.

Post# 389188 , Reply# 17   10/29/2009 at 19:19 (5,282 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Even still has

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The small items basket.

Post# 389197 , Reply# 18   10/29/2009 at 19:53 (5,282 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Holy Crap

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That's the exact same KitchenAid I bought only in 1981. Mine was a Energy Saver IV. Same cycles . No Heat Dry,and I really can't tell the difference unless it had the water Heating sequence changed. Does yours have the Overhead Constant Rinse ? I have a KDS 20 whcih is the same machine only the cycles are different. But also has the heated dry after it was proven the dishes didn't dry well at all.

Here's the 20 shots...


Post# 389199 , Reply# 19   10/29/2009 at 19:56 (5,282 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Cycles

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There is no "Fast Wash"
Rinse and Hold is Back Again. Low Energy is the Normal Wash.


Post# 389203 , Reply# 20   10/29/2009 at 20:00 (5,282 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
However...

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Soak and Scrub has always been a Fantastic Cycle for any KitchenAid to get the job done.

Great Machine and Unbelievable Shape,


Post# 389204 , Reply# 21   10/29/2009 at 20:08 (5,282 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Only issue

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Unless you have 150 degree water from start to finish, the drying is so,so. The incoming water has to be hot from the get go to heat up the Wash Chamber and keep it hot as residual heat with the pulsating fan will be the only resource of heat to get a mediocre dry.The cleaning ability is unbelievable. As I say... "Will scrub the rust of a trailer hitch."

I'll trade you a KDS 20 for a A 806 set plus $$$. LOL

And 3 Small item Baskets.


Post# 389207 , Reply# 22   10/29/2009 at 20:13 (5,282 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

The overhead constant "rinse" debuted in 1968 with the 16 series. In 1976, when the 18 was introduced having the multi-level wash with the upper level power wash, the overhead rinse was now called the overhead constant wash-rinse. The 19 series eliminated it but has a flat white "tube" at the back of the tub with a stationary spray slit at its top.

Post# 389225 , Reply# 23   10/29/2009 at 21:14 (5,282 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
How can you turn down a machine that has a whole section for

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Great pix, as usual. That old wood just shouts "I am an amazing dishwasher."

Look at the difference between the KA wash arm and this more modern one.


Post# 389227 , Reply# 24   10/29/2009 at 21:17 (5,282 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
OOPS!!!!!

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WRONG THREAD-- PLEASE IGNORE

Post# 389232 , Reply# 25   10/29/2009 at 21:32 (5,282 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
WOW... Very, Very Nice Drew!!!!

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CONGRATS!! So are you planning to keep this one and install it in YOUR kitchen?

When are you going to try running a load of towels in it to see how it does? (Hmm, that should be interesting!) LOL

I have a KDS 18 or 19 too, but it's kinda buried at the moment and mine has wood panels on the front.

Kevin

Here is a link to the KDS-16 I had...


CLICK HERE TO GO TO revvinkevin's LINK


Post# 390325 , Reply# 26   11/2/2009 at 20:32 (5,278 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Update: Houston, we have a problem...

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Ran the KDS-19 thru her paces. Motor would not start but tried. Disassembled the pump and pulled lots of glass fragments that had jammed the lower impeller. There also was evidence of leakage on the motor housing. Sure enough, the dishwasher runs great EXCEPT the fine spray of water coming off the motor slinger. Sooo, it's time for new pump seals...

I have two numbers in my reference that might help me:
B-240366 & B-240384.

Paging Stevet and others more knowing about Hobart K/A's! Is this pretty little one screwed? I hate to see one this clean and running as well as it does ending up as a parts donor or WORSE!

RCD


Post# 390329 , Reply# 27   11/2/2009 at 20:54 (5,278 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Good news! I imagine pump seals shouldn't be too hard to come by. Any damage to the impeller from the glass?

Ebay whore to the rescue!!!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO qsd-dan's LINK on eBay


Post# 390334 , Reply# 28   11/2/2009 at 21:07 (5,278 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Hey Drew, I am no Hobart/KA expert. But what I've learned from SteveT and others, since I had a KDS-16 with the same leak problem, it is far from terminal.

So don't panic, you'll be able to repair it and it will work perfectly!!

YAY!!


Post# 390340 , Reply# 29   11/2/2009 at 21:28 (5,278 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
Seals to the rescue..

Since the machine shows little sign of wear and tear, a shaft seal kit would probably do the trick for you. Do youself a favor and get the Hobart seal kit for it. It has a larger and more durable drain impeller(the vanes are larger and pump more water).
The part number you want is 435102 and they are still very much available.
The install is easy and the instructions will walk you thru it with little problem.


Post# 390366 , Reply# 30   11/3/2009 at 00:05 (5,278 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Happy day! The KDS19 will live again!

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A big thank you to the experts! I really wanted to
save this one due to the condition of it. Now comes the big question... Will I swap out my prized Maytag MDB9150AWB for this one? Hmmm...

I hope this post went thru ok since I'm experimenting with the iPod touch with this...

RCD


Post# 390370 , Reply# 31   11/3/2009 at 00:20 (5,278 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

The KA will be lots better. It's built like a truck. Although its no heat dry is no thrill,that part can be convertrd.

Post# 390555 , Reply# 32   11/3/2009 at 20:34 (5,277 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

I wish I could find something like that! Very nice.


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