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Post# 391298   11/6/2009 at 19:25 (5,283 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)        

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Can anyone tell me more about this interesting looking washer that is advertised on the local Craigslist? It looks like it might be a top load HA washer?

Guy





Post# 391318 , Reply# 1   11/6/2009 at 20:22 (5,283 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Just Looking At The Photo

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Yes, it tis a top loading "H-Axis" washer.

Post# 391338 , Reply# 2   11/6/2009 at 21:30 (5,283 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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And a very special one too. It doesn't have suspension but it's on springs. I have one, here's a video:

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Post# 391339 , Reply# 3   11/6/2009 at 21:34 (5,283 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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We had a bit of fun with it too....

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Post# 391383 , Reply# 4   11/7/2009 at 04:45 (5,282 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        
Guy

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Check your email!
Eddy


Post# 391385 , Reply# 5   11/7/2009 at 04:51 (5,282 days old) by hooverkeymatic (England)        

Its an AEG.

Post# 391444 , Reply# 6   11/7/2009 at 11:07 (5,282 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)        
I got through to the fella...

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I'll be driving over to get it later this afternoon. Is there anything special I should know about transporting it? Can it lay down on its side? I have a large station wagon.

It looks to me like one of the programme knobs might not be original (it looks like a stove knob!). Is there parts available for these over in Europe? How old is it?

Guy


Post# 391474 , Reply# 7   11/7/2009 at 14:31 (5,282 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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This machine is not very high, without a problem it will fit in your station wagon without having to put it on it's side.

I guess this machine is from the eighties. Around 25 years old I would say, but not sure.

Overhere in Europe there are probably still parts available, you still see lots of those machines around. I had a closer look and it seems that the timer knob is missing.

Have fun with this machine, it's one of a kind!

Louis


Post# 391479 , Reply# 8   11/7/2009 at 15:52 (5,282 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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and DON"T lay it down

Post# 391487 , Reply# 9   11/7/2009 at 16:59 (5,282 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Ron,

Actually I don't think much can happen with this machine when it's on it's side because there is no suspension. It's just one sturdy block, no springs etc. But just to be on the safe side it is better to transport it upright.


Post# 391517 , Reply# 10   11/7/2009 at 20:43 (5,282 days old) by favorit ()        
this could help : serviceforce.co.uk

it's a British E'lux service.co

here you can even find the manual.

IMHO ServiceForce looks far better organized than italian zanussi-elux service dept, that often lacks pre-E'lux AEG know-how.
as former AEG reapairmen were replaced with Zanussi ones


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Post# 391526 , Reply# 11   11/7/2009 at 21:58 (5,282 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)        
Thanks for all the info...

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It's now home. I can't fiqure out how to use it though because the program/timer knob is just a plain chrome knob. I can't find anything online. Maybe someone here will have a suggestion? I can find a few full machines for sale on Ebay.de. You would think that there might still be parts?

Also, even though I have an up converting transformer of 3000 watts, the fuse blows (I imagine when the washer starts to heat the cold water.)It's just after the initial fill. The washer is rated for 3000 watts. Do I need more watts on my transformer?

Guy


Post# 391529 , Reply# 12   11/7/2009 at 22:27 (5,282 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        
Nice find?!

Perhaps a time-delay fuse will help.

Many types of motors take a gread deal more watts to run than to start.

Perhaps this is pushing you over the limit.


Post# 391533 , Reply# 13   11/7/2009 at 22:39 (5,282 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Thing requires more power than your 3000 watt step-up converter can provide.

Ideally appliance should not require more than 1/2 to 1/4 of the operating power of the transformer. Indeed the later should be sized about twice the rated power load for the appliance. In you case that means something along the lines of 8Kw. Transformers over 5Kw really ought to be hardwired as that is too much power for any outlet, at least those in North America to provide.

Appliances with motors such as washing machines, air conditioners, fridges, and so forth also require a heavy load of power to start those motors. IIRC this is the reason one's lights sometimes dim when such appliances kick in.

Adding the above to your situation, you would need a transformer probably around the 10Kw range.

It is a very good thing the transformer is blowing fuses. Better it goes than your house!

Know it is hard without the knobs and such, but try to see if you can run a cycle without engaging the heaters, that should take a huge load off the electrical demand.


Post# 391545 , Reply# 14   11/7/2009 at 23:12 (5,282 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
And Another Thing

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If you have a standard North American 15amp or 20amp circut, no transformer even at 10Kw is going to be able to provide 3kW of power, well at least not for long periods of time.

Depending upon how your home is wired, you *might* pull close to 2kW from a 20amp circut, though modern code requires usage of no more than 80%, but this is very dangerous. The wiring in your walls and or outlet can get hot and or degrade over time if one kept this up, leading to a fire.

This is why one stated you would need a huge transformer that is hardwired into the electical system.

What reall is wanting is a 220v power line.


Post# 391573 , Reply# 15   11/8/2009 at 04:25 (5,281 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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If you want to find out where the programs are on the timer just turn it around. You will feel more resistance where the numbers on the timer are. By starting the machine you will eventually find out where the programs are. Perhaps you can mark them on the dial.

I guess a step up converter won't do it on a 110V circuit when it takes full power. I think you might need a real 220V connection.

BTW, what model is yours? Is it a 220 (650rpm) or a 240 (850rpm)?


Post# 391582 , Reply# 16   11/8/2009 at 07:13 (5,281 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)        
Good advice...

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I think I will put a quick connect faucet adaptor on the water line and just use it without the heater function! Thank you Landress, indeed better the fuse than the house!

Louis, it is a 240 model.

Guy


Post# 391644 , Reply# 17   11/8/2009 at 14:33 (5,281 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Just keep that transformer as far away from the washer and or drains/sink as possible. Remember water + electric power ='s death.

Personally just because you are dealing with water and electric power I'd sooner or later (more sooner) have a dedicated 220v power line installed if at all possible.

At the very least keep the transformer slightly elevated (off the floor on a stool or small chair?), just as a precaution.




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