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Post# 72353   7/5/2005 at 14:10 (6,841 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Back when I posted pics of my house, someone asked to see the F&Ps in their room. The utility room decor got 'finished' this weekend, so here be the pics.

Looking in. The machines appear a little off-kilter, but the wall is a bit angled. If they're each set square with the wall, then they're skewed with each other, so I split the difference.





Post# 72354 , Reply# 1   7/5/2005 at 14:11 (6,841 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Storage and broom closets.

Post# 72355 , Reply# 2   7/5/2005 at 14:12 (6,841 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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IWL12. I wish there was a sink!

Post# 72356 , Reply# 3   7/5/2005 at 14:13 (6,841 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Machines - IWL12 and DEGX1.

Post# 72357 , Reply# 4   7/5/2005 at 14:14 (6,841 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Machines again.

Post# 72358 , Reply# 5   7/5/2005 at 14:15 (6,841 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Looking out.

Post# 72360 , Reply# 6   7/5/2005 at 14:19 (6,841 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Broom closet. The door was taken off in a bathroom where two doors come together in an awkward way. And that's the Envirotech tankless water heater on the wall. Pulls 28,800 watts at maximum output (which rarely happens).

Post# 72362 , Reply# 7   7/5/2005 at 14:34 (6,841 days old) by Stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        
I have painted a similar color...

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but have had to improvise on the window. We are doing our version of a trompe l'oiel /faux window but it is not done yet. When it is finished I will post a pic' if you would like to see the results. We chose a similar color of paint from Lowes called Pineapple Delight which has really cheered the room up considerably.
Robert


Post# 72396 , Reply# 8   7/5/2005 at 19:20 (6,841 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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VERY NICE Glenn!!

Post# 72406 , Reply# 9   7/5/2005 at 20:42 (6,841 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Real Great utility room
Very well done
Peter


Post# 72431 , Reply# 10   7/5/2005 at 22:38 (6,841 days old) by Whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Ahh, to have cabinets over the washer again. In our current house we just have a few open shelves.
That's really cool looking! Very nice work! That F&P combo looks right at home in there.


Post# 72436 , Reply# 11   7/5/2005 at 22:57 (6,841 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Thanks for sharing Glenn, I love the room. Great having cabinets above the machines and I love the Jars you have the detergent in. Terry

Post# 72465 , Reply# 12   7/6/2005 at 02:58 (6,841 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
sink

You know, Glen, it wouldn't ge hard to put in a sink, since the plumbing connections are right there. Go for it.

Post# 72484 , Reply# 13   7/6/2005 at 08:24 (6,841 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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If you removed those cabinets next to the w/d, you could fit another pair in... Be the talk of the neighborhood with a pink or turquoise set!

Very nice, functional room, Glenn. I especially like the closets, many builders forget that there should be storage for things like vacuums, buckets, etc. that are handy to the living area.


Post# 72497 , Reply# 14   7/6/2005 at 10:08 (6,840 days old) by bostonwash ()        
beautiful !

Great Job, Nice cabinets. And how conscientious to have a demand style water heater. It looks like that closet used to be dedicated to the old style, expensive to operate(environmentally unfriendly), tank style water heater. And look at the space created with out it.

Excellence.


Post# 72511 , Reply# 15   7/6/2005 at 11:32 (6,840 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Beautius!

Is that dryer T/L? Nice machines.

Speaking of Envirotech instantaneous water heaters..how is that puppy wired?

28,800 watts? YAWZA!

May I be nosey?


Do you have 3-phase electrical service?

How many circuits does the water-heater require, and at what amperage total, and per circuit?

How much service comes into the house?

It's so nice to see a beautiful new (looking) house. Are they generally wood-frame or concrete by you?

In my area it's all about fixing up the old cruddy ones (always wood-frame for pvt homes, BTW) to get a good location/commute to the city. Land here is very expensive. A house itself can be built here for around $110 per square foot!

Thanks Glen.



Post# 72519 , Reply# 16   7/6/2005 at 13:27 (6,840 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Yay! Love your laundry room Glenn! It really does look smart :-).

Take care,

Jon :-)


Post# 72526 , Reply# 17   7/6/2005 at 15:07 (6,840 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        
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I love your laundry room, Glenn! It looks like your hard work paid off.

That tankless water heater is cool, too!

So, not get off the subject, but how long do you have to wait for the hot water when you turn on a faucet? Is it longer than you'd wait if there was a hot water tank?

How hot is the water? Does it take extra time to get extra hot water for say the dishwasher?



Is it on a timer, or does it come on when it senses a faucet has been opened?

--Jeff


Post# 72561 , Reply# 18   7/6/2005 at 19:10 (6,840 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Nice, large, & "open" laundry room! For those who haven't seen it, it looks even better in person! Plenty of room for watching the washer!

"If you removed those cabinets next to the w/d, you could fit another pair in..."

There would definitely be room for a WO-65...;-)


Post# 72570 , Reply# 19   7/6/2005 at 19:56 (6,840 days old) by Westtexman (Lubbock, Texas)        

Nice utility room. I couldn't help but notice your detergent canisters. Nice. Looks like Mexican Ariel in the big one, but what's in the small one? (Just curious).

Post# 72586 , Reply# 20   7/6/2005 at 21:35 (6,840 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Bryan, welcome. The Texas contingent keeps growing!!! Bob

Post# 72591 , Reply# 21   7/6/2005 at 21:39 (6,840 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)        
Nice Laundry room Glenn

I do agree that you should rip the cabinets out so you have room for a vintage machine or two. What was the builder thinking when they chose not to put a sink in there-or is there another sink nearby? I always think that its nice to have a sink by the washer so you can rinse detergent off your hands or pretreat a stain. Other than that, your place looks top notch. I really like the world map on the wall too.

Post# 72669 , Reply# 22   7/7/2005 at 08:56 (6,839 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Great pictures Glen, funny before I read it I was thinking the exact same thing Greg was. If you take out the cabinet there will be room for at least another washer, if not another set!

Of course you could always take the sofa out of the living room and there would be room for two sets!


Post# 72680 , Reply# 23   7/7/2005 at 09:57 (6,839 days old) by PeteK (Ontari ari ari O )        
great job

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Love the color,,it's similar to my downstairs rec room. If only I could get the oomph to finish off my laundry room, it was the only room in the house not finished when built.
Now I noticed a Hoover floor mate in the closet, how do you like it? I'm always pondering on one, and what type of vac is that...not a Kirby!!


Post# 72708 , Reply# 24   7/7/2005 at 15:16 (6,839 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Whoa, lotsa questions and comments!

I've thought about installing the 1992 Superba dw there, or a hook-up for my WO-65 *whenever* it gets running properly ... but I'm not feeling an urgent need at the moment for a plumbing project, LOL.

The kitchen is out the door and to the right, so a sink is nearby if needed.

Houses in the area are brick-veneer construction. The location is mile or so outside city limits so there's no city services or natural gas. Electric is it, or a propane tank.

200 amp service to the house, single phase. The tankless is rated 28.8 KW @ 240 volts. It has four 7,200 watt elements. Two 60 amp breakers in the main panel, and a "Supplementary Overcurrent Protection Assembly" panel with eight (single-pole) 40 amp breakers ganged in four groups of two.

Output temp range is adjustable 75°F to 140°F. No timer, it runs by demand. 0.4 GPM flow rate to trigger. TTH (time to hot) depends on distance to the point of use, same as with a traditional tank unit ... plus about 30 seconds for the elements to get fully going. There's an optional "performance" mode that supposedly gets it going a bit faster, but I didn't see an appreciable difference in practice.

The unit throttles the elements as needed to hit the target temp depending on incoming temp, desired outgoing temp, and flow-rate. The display can show instantaneous power demand as a percentage of full capacity. I have it set at 102°F for normal use (showering) and raise the temp as needed for tasks. Normally 115°F to 117°F for clothes, as the IWL12 controls to 115°F for warm. Sometimes I set it at 140°F for whites. Last time I did that, with a flow rate of ~2.3 GPM, demand was about 78% -- but ONLY while the water runs. No water flowing, no power used. Last time I filled one of the whirlpool tubs @ 112°F, demand was about 37%. I don't raise it for dishes, as the DishDrawer always heats main wash and final rinse to specific temps.

Water gets hot at the washer quickly. Kitchen takes longer than one expects, likely due to how the lines run. The master bath which is at the *far* other end of the house takes about 3 minutes, but that's at about 1 GPM flow rate (I don't crack the shower fully open to get it heated) and is totally a function of the distance. I've thought about adding a recirculation pump to run for getting it heated, but the water down the drain isn't really wasted as it goes into the septic system then later sprays on the yard.

The large jar is (currently) Ariel OxyAzul.

The small jar is oxy-booster.

I was leery of the Floormate as I'd read on epinions that they don't suck so well, but it does OK. I've not yet tried wet scrubbing. I also have a Hoover Celebrity. The upright is a Singer, bought for $85 on close-out at Wal-Mart about 18 years ago. :-)

The world map I've had for years, it fit the utility room color scheme, and the wall space!

Sheeesh. I wrote a book.


Post# 72734 , Reply# 25   7/7/2005 at 20:45 (6,839 days old) by PeteK (Ontari ari ari O )        
Answers beget more questions lol

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Glenn - your comment about the water going in the septic system to be resprayed on the lawn later threw me. Can you explain that, mine goes in the tank,overflows to the second tank then disperses thru the tile field.



Post# 72770 , Reply# 26   7/8/2005 at 02:17 (6,839 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Oh my, I'm missing all the good stuff here. Nice laundryroom Glenn! No questions (for now).

Post# 72776 , Reply# 27   7/8/2005 at 06:22 (6,839 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Ah, Glen:

Do you have a graywater system wherby cetrain sources of waste-water are stored and used in the garden and to wash cars?

If so is this YOUR "thing", or a Texas thing?


Post# 72796 , Reply# 28   7/8/2005 at 09:48 (6,838 days old) by westyslantfront ()        
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Hi Glenn. Looks like you have a clean, neat, practical laundry room. It looks great.

Ross


Post# 72811 , Reply# 29   7/8/2005 at 15:09 (6,838 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        
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It's a self-contained biokinetic wastewater treatment plant!

Wastewater and ... umm, solids, are carried to a three-chamber treatment tank (1,300 gal capacity) -- pretreatment, aeration, and clarification. The resulting 'graywater' is passed to a pump tank (890 gal capacity) where it is sprayed via a couple standard pop-up sprinkler heads onto the back area of my property (I have 1.1 acres). The pump is timed to run between 3 and 5 AM daily, as needed. It won't run if the water level isn't high enough to trigger a float. A 2nd-level float triggers it to run immediately, and there's a 3rd level float that triggers a visual and audible alarm.

System Diagram

Hurt's Wastewater Management, Ltd.


Post# 72831 , Reply# 30   7/8/2005 at 16:46 (6,838 days old) by PeteK (Ontari ari ari O )        
Interesting system

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I'll have to do some follow up on that, I've seen some other systems similar but I'm not sure if they did the spraying or not. Just have to keep my fingers crossed I have no problems with what I have now. Yukkers and expensive to fix
BTW are you on well water? I am and my water is extremely alkaline and soft, salty actually when it dries on a surface rendering it no good for indoor plants or window washing etc. Yet most people I hear talk about their well water say it's hard water which I find strange


Post# 72834 , Reply# 31   7/8/2005 at 16:50 (6,838 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Yes, private well, and it is hard water! I should have it tested to find out the specifics.

Post# 72841 , Reply# 32   7/8/2005 at 17:35 (6,838 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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nice!

The toilet flushing sound is such a lovely thing to experience in that there link, Mister! LOL LOL LOL


Post# 72899 , Reply# 33   7/9/2005 at 15:02 (6,837 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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OMG. I use Firefox and it doesn't pick up that sound. Opened the site in IE, heard it. LOL, that could be a plus or minus for Firefox, depending on the POV.

Post# 73191 , Reply# 34   7/11/2005 at 20:06 (6,835 days old) by bostonwash ()        
I didn't notice the jars the on the counter the first ti

the jars are kinda cool. In glass jars the colored chemicals look like --mystical potions from Alice in Wonderland or something, here to make your laundering pure joy.
then as you leave this fab room take a piece of "special" candy from the last jar as a reward for your good deed.

You know it would really be a sign of strong washer interest if we found the rest of your house was painted white with 50s paneling and looked like a mobile home. Perfectly understandable.

love the sign <=>


Post# 73266 , Reply# 35   7/12/2005 at 07:10 (6,835 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Oh yes the sign is so cool. I cound get SOME mileage out of that one.. LOL

Didn't we see similar jars of detergent with Venus and Austin? Is this a texas thing? Bob A., what say you?

Yes magical potion. Did someone go to the nearest botanica and pick up some "abre camino?" Gotta keep Chango and Allegua happy! I no longer even blink should someone says fetch me a coconut, I have to "clean" the house.

Although when a Santero/a offers you live animals or plants, do yourself a huge favor. Set them free or throw them out! Bad business.



(Oh Venus my club friends are SO gonna write me off based on this... LOL)








Post# 73268 , Reply# 36   7/12/2005 at 07:56 (6,835 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Well, I don't know if it's a Texas Thang or not. As for me, I don't have any extra space in my laundry room. It's just the twasher and dryer. And since it would be glass, I could accidentally and easily drop a jar or it would slide off the Maytag dryer which has no edge to stop such disasters. And I"m not really a "fru fru" kinda guy. There are lots of "genes" I didn't pick up. I guess i"m lucky I have a card that got swiped LOL.

Post# 73275 , Reply# 37   7/12/2005 at 09:11 (6,834 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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What no ledge! Does Consumers' Reports know about this? They will downgrade the machine to dead last.

Don't you love their ratings? Top one year bottom the next.


Post# 73416 , Reply# 38   7/13/2005 at 04:13 (6,834 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        
My Texas Mobile Home

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I guess this means I'm not "serious" about washers? LOL!

The camera wasn't very cooperative on this night shot so I had to make some adjustments.


Post# 73418 , Reply# 39   7/13/2005 at 04:23 (6,834 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Ooooh Glenn... I love your house!!!

Post# 73454 , Reply# 40   7/13/2005 at 11:44 (6,833 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Need a house-boy? I do windows......

Post# 73533 , Reply# 41   7/13/2005 at 22:40 (6,833 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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You can have the spare room and bath if you'll do ALL the windows, AND floors, AND keep the garage, driveway, front porch and back patio clean.

Post# 73545 , Reply# 42   7/13/2005 at 23:25 (6,833 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Love the outdoor night pic - beautiful lighting makes all the difference at night!

Very interesting system, I read most every page on the linked site trying to find the toilet flush noise which apparently Firefox doesn't play - but it was fascinating nonetheless. It's interesting too that you can't run a water softener's recharge cycle wastewater into the wastewater system. And mind those sanitary products!


Post# 73546 , Reply# 43   7/13/2005 at 23:40 (6,833 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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LOL- sounds reasonable

Post# 73577 , Reply# 44   7/14/2005 at 10:56 (6,832 days old) by westytoploader ()        

WOW!! Your house looks BEAUTIFUL at night!

If I hadn't known any better I would've thought it was in Malibu or Beverly Hills...nice!


Post# 73578 , Reply# 45   7/14/2005 at 11:03 (6,832 days old) by retromom ()        
But wait, there's more!

Toggle:

.....and restore the WO-65 ;-)


PS Avoid chicken feathers, goats, and people in Botanicas wearing all white


Post# 73602 , Reply# 46   7/14/2005 at 14:36 (6,832 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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V-

I hear that loud and clear!


-S


Post# 73622 , Reply# 47   7/14/2005 at 17:20 (6,832 days old) by compwhiz128 ()        

I watched the videos of that machine it sounds pretty loud

CLICK HERE TO GO TO compwhiz128's LINK


Post# 73682 , Reply# 48   7/15/2005 at 02:23 (6,832 days old) by bostonwash ()        
Nice house pic!

This must be one of those new fancy-shmancy double wides. ;-}


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