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Post# 397170   12/2/2009 at 20:09 (5,250 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I was contacted this afternoon by a gentleman from KPIX the CBS-TV affiliate in San Francisco. They would love to do a story on vintage washers collector in this area. If you are interested please contact:

Dave Stoelk
CBS 5-TV
San Francisco
stoelk@kpix.cbs.com





Post# 397171 , Reply# 1   12/2/2009 at 20:11 (5,250 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Uh-Oh.....

LOL!!!!!!


Post# 397172 , Reply# 2   12/2/2009 at 20:20 (5,250 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Hey, Dan!

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"Tonight on KPIX5: Appliance Hoarders and The People Who Barely Understand Them..."

Yes, Mr. Stoelk, please come in. Pull up a washer and have a seat... ROFLMAO!!!

RCD


Post# 397173 , Reply# 3   12/2/2009 at 20:22 (5,250 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
NICE!

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Nice Drew, nice! LOL

Post# 397175 , Reply# 4   12/2/2009 at 20:26 (5,250 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
Pull up a washer and have a seat...

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Oh, and just set those parts anywhere and squeeze in between the rest of them, lol.

I'd be immediately sent to the insane asylum if they walked into the family room. LOL!!


Post# 397177 , Reply# 5   12/2/2009 at 20:34 (5,250 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Where's Nate and his collection when ya need him!!!!!

Post# 397178 , Reply# 6   12/2/2009 at 20:49 (5,250 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Well.

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In my own thoughts and opinion,

I like us being in a secret society. All the Magic will fade away. We're so unique. To Blow the lid off our Family, God knows what could happen !!! LOL


Post# 397181 , Reply# 7   12/2/2009 at 21:01 (5,250 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
I like us being in a secret society.

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Yeah, I agree there.

No worries. I wouldn't accept their offer even if they waved several thousand $ in front of me. I'm a very private individual and would like to remain that way. I would offer them all of the pics they wanted as long as my name wasn't mentioned. That's about it, though.


Post# 397182 , Reply# 8   12/2/2009 at 21:10 (5,250 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Another thought....

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Well,

I see it from a different perspective....if they gave you the opportunity to state what machines you might be still be looking for....wouldn't that interest you?

Here in Oz, i had the opportunity of being on our national ABC radio across the country and a few more machines have come my way.

Each to their own i suppose...
Cheers
Leon


Post# 397184 , Reply# 9   12/2/2009 at 21:29 (5,250 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
if they gave you the opportunity to state what machines you

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Well, I'm officially full up to the gills anyway. Just brought in the HDE806 (finally) and can't fit another machine without blocking walkway passages, unless I start stacking machines. Hmmmm.......lol!

I'll let others around here get their chance to build up their own collection.

It would nice if we could acquire some air time in order to spread the word and increase the clubs chances in locating dreams machines, instead of them being crushed and reshaped into a Kia's.


Post# 397203 , Reply# 10   12/2/2009 at 22:34 (5,250 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

It's most always a good thing when the "TV People" show interest in a topic. Best of luck. alr2903

Post# 397209 , Reply# 11   12/2/2009 at 23:01 (5,250 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Dan, You're the Man!

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Give it some thought. Just imagine the people who will contact Channel 5 with stuff they want to unload--and who KPIX will then contact to advise!

And RCD, Reno gets most of the SF stations don't they, so I'm sure you would qualify.

I know it's relatively slim pickins at Nate's house right now, although he's conveniently located and would be a very articulate representative of our little subculture here. I think I'm going to give him a call right now . . .


Post# 397219 , Reply# 12   12/2/2009 at 23:34 (5,250 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The only station we get is some feeds from Ktvu 2 news. We should try to get them to go to Kevin's garage. They wouldn't even need camera lights... LOL!

RCD


Post# 397222 , Reply# 13   12/2/2009 at 23:50 (5,250 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Oh sure, through me under the bus!

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Yeah, why not, have them call me! If they want to come all the way down here from SF just to get "blinded by the lights" then they are welcome!

LOL


Post# 397227 , Reply# 14   12/3/2009 at 01:00 (5,250 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I really think this would be a fun segment if we can get local people with interesting machines to participate. And again, the motherlode of vintage machines--not just washers--that could surface as a result should be viewed by locals here as a real motivator.

I'm willing to get creative and try to hammer out an arrangement that gets KPIX their story and doesn't negatively impact any of the local membership here that wants to maintain their privacy, and would be happy to put a meeting together with interested parties.

Ralph



Post# 397228 , Reply# 15   12/3/2009 at 01:02 (5,250 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Oh, and Drew, I didn't realize it was still just Channel 2 that you all get up there. So even cable doesn't provide Bay Area stations?

Post# 397233 , Reply# 16   12/3/2009 at 03:36 (5,250 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        
Oh the shame of it all

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I'm in a similar position as others... I have some machines... but they are mostly not presentable and the entire area is far too cluttered up to allow a TV crew to broadcast the disaster on local tv... lol...

It would be nicer if they were to bill the show as being about the MACHINES and not the people who collect them...

OTOH, Dan, if you're that cramped for room I could probably eject a 90's WCI gas dryer to make room for that GM Frigidaire you acquired a couple years ago... :-)


Post# 397257 , Reply# 17   12/3/2009 at 07:57 (5,250 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Please tell Mr. deMille I'm not in California, I'm n

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and I'm ready for my closeup:

Post# 397264 , Reply# 18   12/3/2009 at 09:53 (5,250 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
I dunno...

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If our machines got exposure, I could just see the EPA fining us all for not having Energy Star Rated Appliances.

I mean if you can get pulled over for not wearing your seat Belt, Imagine what would the fine be for a Overflow Rinsing Machine !!! LOL

I can just see the Energy Star Police pulling up in front of our homes with a 30 foot truck with a lift gate and confiscating our machines.


Post# 397268 , Reply# 19   12/3/2009 at 10:10 (5,250 days old) by bygted ()        
the natural progression of collecting and capitalism

I started way back as a collector of Mid Century Mod furnishings... I remember strolling into a Washington DC metro area estate sale and buying Saarinien and Mccobb and all kinds of high end great stuff for peanuts with no competition. Then they slowly started doing news bits and stories on collectors and now - even if I show up three days before the sale starts there are people running pre numbers for the real numbers to get in the sale. Their cars strewn with candy bar wrappers and coffee cups- Their hair pressed into greasy bedhead shapes due to sleeping in their vehicles for days.
The sales are over before they start and the sad part is that the vast majority of folks camping out are only hawking the stuff for resale... it's totally merchandise to them and not for their collection.
I digress... I can't resist a quick profit myself... I just miss the old days when there was pleathora of great stuff to score at cheap prices.

A similar thing has happened with vintage fridges - When I started collecting them- people gave them to me for free or 50 bucks. Then they started getting some media attention and restoration websites started popping up so now when someone offers me a fridge they want 1200$ for it becasue they saw a restored one on some website for 5k. (OK OK - I am being a little dramatic - I still score cool fridges for cheap sometimes).

All of this being said - I still think it's great for this hobby to follow the path and start getting more attention.
I don't exactly wish for it... but it doesn't bother me.
It definitely could result in more machines being saved, which is cool... the average machine might just start costing a little more.


Post# 397269 , Reply# 20   12/3/2009 at 10:12 (5,250 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA)        
A small observation If I may.

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Please,

I'm not in any way trying to crash the party, but as a former "VacuumLand" member, I can say that after several members there were on television, it did bring the club into the open where it was by some ridiculed, mocked and even laughed at. Most of the people still over there are grown so it's not that big a deal, but It definitely put a microscope on the hobby for awhile, and I'm sure still does.. I do know one of the people personally and believe, he suffered far worse from it than most people realize. A few gems came his way, jealousy and national notoriety got in the way of having good solid friendships with peers he was just longing to have. If you know who I'm talking about fine, but lets just say I hear alot: "If I could go back I woulda never done it at all". Believe what you will...

The worst thing I noticed almost immediately: It gave every Tom Dick and Harry; Betty, Norma and Sue who had an old vacuum cleaner scramblin to ebay to sell their " now precious piece of junk" for far more than it was worth, because it was on T.V. It's now WORTH something, instead of the very little that was once paid..

True it may net a machine or two (from the rare human being who is actually just that a HUMAN BEING), and give you that five minutes or so of notoriety, but in the end, people you never met will know who you are, smirk and make their comments; not all wonderful. And then in at least the vacuumland case for awhile every yoyo in the lower 48 will be trying to seel their old clothes slosher for a mint.

My personal perspective is to let you conscious be you guide, on publicizing you and yours. People are already internet savvy enough and learn ENOUGH about us from what we say on here, and over on the vacuumland site. We do enough damage to ourselves I believe form people doing their "research" and finding out what were looking for an what we've paid for items, all that drives up the market, and lowers the chance for anyone to really find anything because it's all tied up in greed.

Then again greed is in the eye of the beholder. Wanting for nothing is a kind of greed too isn't it? I prefer myself the latter type of greed myself. Okay I just stated my opinion. If it's not liked wipe it from the boards. I refuse to answer anyone who's gonna act 5 about an opinion. IF it's a discussible response fine. I'm not on here enough to make this a fight, or who's right /wrong...no thanks.

A backwater old fish that sometimes comes up for food LOL...


Chad

Ann Arbor Michigan


Post# 397294 , Reply# 21   12/3/2009 at 12:48 (5,249 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Another Perspective

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I also belong to the Antique Radio Forum, which has a sub group for collectors of vintage television sets. Other than the kitschy and woefully problematic Philco Predicta sets and certain very early models, non-working old b&W sets just don't command a high price. $25 is usually as much as one will bring in. People can't repair these things themselves. Even a working vintage set appeals to a very limited market, for obvious reasons in this digital high definition age.

The same can be said for vintage appliances. Most people can't fix them, most people want a bigger more modern machine, and place little value on something like an 80's Maytag that might need something as simple as a new belt. Even if they have a vintage fridge, they don't like having to defrost it. If they are delusional about what their old machine might be worth, it's up to people like us to set them straight and refuse to pay a ridiculously inflated asking price. It has worked forever with vintage Tv's and there's no reason we can't do the same with vintage appliances.

I still maintain that even in this economy, people will be more inclined to dump a vintage machine than to try and get rich off of one, even after seeing a TV segment that indicates there's interest in such items among a small part of the community at large.


Post# 397296 , Reply# 22   12/3/2009 at 12:52 (5,249 days old) by whirlaway (Hampton Virginia)        
You Might be Surprised

The average person doesnt have room for several washers.You might find some rare ones.I found my Easy the green thirties model on a ladies back porch in S.F. 30 years ago.Sort of like old cars,it could drive the price up but since it is a select group when folks find out they cant sell at a high price it would come down.I loaned my 1956 RCA color set to a big department store here in town for the 50th anniversary of RCA color.They made a nice display for it and used it for about a month with it on 12hours aday.They told me they were amazed at the number of people that would stop and inquire about it.They had no idea color had been out for so long.I got a couple of calls from people giving me sets just to get rid of them,they wanted the space,Thanks Bobby

Post# 397320 , Reply# 23   12/3/2009 at 14:57 (5,249 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I've had camera crews from the local news here a couple of times and a segment on HGTV. It was great fun and I'd do it again in a minute if asked. There was no downside to the exposure other than an overbearing woman who called, insisting that I drive three hours to buy her mother's Maytag E2L wringer washer. "You've never seen one THIS old before! You must come!" There was another guy who called offering his late 80's DD Whirlpool but I politely passed on that as well.

If anyone has the time and collection to share and wishes to come out of the "laundry closet" as it were, go for it - it's a lot of fun!


Post# 397321 , Reply# 24   12/3/2009 at 14:58 (5,249 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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The cameraman was very nice ;-)

Post# 397336 , Reply# 25   12/3/2009 at 15:44 (5,249 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Hey Greg i remember when you were on TV, You made a good go of it too. alr2903

Post# 397343 , Reply# 26   12/3/2009 at 16:00 (5,249 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Agree with gansky

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I have to agree with gansky.

We have a TV show here in Oz dedictated to Collectors and it rates very well on Friday night's. Through this TV show, many collectors have come forward to show their collections for all Australia to see. I personally have spoken to one of these people who collects everything associated with 'Twiggy' and she in no way has suffered an negativity. In fact, she received without payment a record she was looking for from a viewer. Maybe people where you are Chad are not as accepting, who knows.

In fact, i'm going to be given the opportunity to show my collection on this program sometime in 2010. I did not contact them, they contacted me through my radio interviews. I did hesitate for a moment, but when they mentioned they would give me the opporunity to state what machines i'm still looking for, i said yes! Just remember, a lot of people that i have bought machines off are in their 60's,70's and 80's and not many of them are internet savvy....they either read or watch TV and some people are more 'visual'. If that ONE person sees the program and the picture of the machine i want and contacts me, then it will be worth it!

Sure, i do admit the only negative aspect of appearing on a program like this is that people will try and offload models THEY think are worth a lot of money or try and charge a lot for a model i might want. However, i already deal people like this now, so it's nothing new.

As for any ridicule, i think i'm old enough at 40 to deal with it!

Cheers
Leon


Post# 397357 , Reply# 27   12/3/2009 at 17:15 (5,249 days old) by westingman123 ()        
Hey Greg-

Wow! Love that laundry room! What kind of finish do you have on the floor? It looks like the epoxy we use at work. I'm contemplating redoing my basement floor; would you suggest that finish or good old VCT tile?

Post# 397360 , Reply# 28   12/3/2009 at 17:44 (5,249 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
:-)

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I only have the Filter-Flo. Maybe they'd marvel over the '89 Frigidaire? I haven't sold it yet...or they could poke at the dishwashers :-)

Post# 397362 , Reply# 29   12/3/2009 at 17:57 (5,249 days old) by rapidry1000 (San Francisco)        

I was the original person contacted by KPIX-TV and forwarded his request to do a show to Robert. Unfortunately I do not want his film crew for the show, Evening Magazine taking over my house since my small collection is scattered in four different locations (my parent's basement, my kitchen, my patio, and at a rental property). I really don't know how the producer of the show got my email address and knowing of my interest in vintage automatic washers.

Post# 397365 , Reply# 30   12/3/2009 at 18:23 (5,249 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Evening Magazine?

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Does KPIX still produce that show? I thought they only did "Eye on the Bay" now, which would seem a more likely program to pursue this type of content, as they have visited places like the "Unknown" and "Pez" museums in the past and tend to sprinkle in a few quirky segments once in a while.

Post# 397370 , Reply# 31   12/3/2009 at 19:23 (5,249 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
basement floors

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Keith - that is just simple oil-based floor paint. I still have it but would love to have something else. It's a pain to keep up and a smelly nightmare to re-do as often as it needs to be done. Every time you slide a machine in or out of it's spot, the floor gets marred or scratched. One of my "major" projects for the laundry rooms is to tile those floors someday.

Post# 397373 , Reply# 32   12/3/2009 at 19:32 (5,249 days old) by rapidry1000 (San Francisco)        

Sorry, it's Eye on the Bay. I was thinking of the former show at that time slot. Dave Stoelk does the odd/unusual segments of the program.

Post# 397398 , Reply# 33   12/3/2009 at 21:08 (5,249 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I love the idea of "pull up a washer and take a seat". I will take the Frigidaire 1-18 with the lid open please....and thats all I am going to say!

Post# 397417 , Reply# 34   12/3/2009 at 22:47 (5,249 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        
Gansky:

Greg, was the show you were on called "Hey Remember", or some title like that? I am pretty sure I saw you when it aired back in 2003/2004. I remember it, and your basement does look familiar. As I recall you were restoring a 1959 washer labeled Fabric Master, which was probably a Frigidaire. I thought I recognized you from photos here, but was not sure.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 397610 , Reply# 35   12/5/2009 at 00:25 (5,248 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Epoxy floor paint would probably be far more resistant to damage from appliance moving than regular oil based paint. However it's not indestructible and can be scratched or chipped fairly readily, depending on the object doing the damage.

One idea might be to lay down cardboard on the floor before moving a machine, or putting those teflon or plastic pads under the front feet before sliding the machine out (and putting two more under the rear feet for further movement...).


Post# 397708 , Reply# 36   12/5/2009 at 16:38 (5,247 days old) by circlew (NE Cincinnati OH area)        
Polished Concrete

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Post# 397711 , Reply# 37   12/5/2009 at 16:50 (5,247 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
For what this is worth...

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I am a tenant.
My Landlords Love My Collection. And what we call My "Showroom", is carpeted. I use Super Sliders. I buy the ones that support 300-400 lbs. I slide my machines all over the place with out having to use an Appliance Handtruck.

Hope this may help. Eddie



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