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Post# 397278   12/3/2009 at 11:22 (5,256 days old) by mixfinder ()        

Our 17 year old Speed Queen had definitely seen better days as it banged and squealed its way through a load of laundry. MacCray laundry services agreed to upgrade to a front loader if we signed a new contract. I was expecting a Neptune set and surprised to see the Speed Queens unveiled. The washer does a load in only 31 minutes with out a spin between wash and it's one and only rinse. The machine does not ramp up to a warp speed spin like many front loaders do. Its making the building happy as the washer holds more clothes and the dryer is larger and faster than the old one. $1.50 for wash and $1.00 for dry. No water is visible while the machine washing. I tried adding more through the detergent drawer and it pumps out as soon as the water reaches the bottom of the glass.




Post# 397279 , Reply# 1   12/3/2009 at 11:24 (5,256 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Smalls overflow

Smaller articles of clothing catch between the inner and outer tubs and get smashed against the glass during the wash. There is a plastic guard that keeps them from sliding between the two.

Post# 397281 , Reply# 2   12/3/2009 at 11:29 (5,256 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Distanced from my Laundry

I was given the use of a Neptune set which seems to do an okay job. It feels very odd to do laundry and not be able to see or experience the process. It was never about the washing but getting to watch. The touch screens lead you through a series of cycle choices but I am old fashioned enough to like dials.

Post# 397282 , Reply# 3   12/3/2009 at 11:33 (5,256 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Those SQ machines are quite pretty! But only ONE rinse? In an FL washer???? YIKES!!!!

On that note, I wonder how programmable those commercial machines are? Can they be programed with higher water levels perhaps? More rinses? Warm rinses? I know they boast about the fact that they are now CEE Tier III energy certified, but, I wonder if (and hope) that can be changed! ;)


Post# 397289 , Reply# 4   12/3/2009 at 12:20 (5,256 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Sounds a bit like the ones I endured

a 9 minute wash cycle, 3 low level rinses and only did a few measly spin bursts between the rinses, where it actually turned the pump off when it went into spin!

They were a year or so old, and would overfill and flood the laundry at least once a week without fail.

The doors visible rattled when they span, they sounded like death on spin and walked across the floor despite being completely level.

The matching dryers became unberably hot even on low heat, weren't big enough to hold a full wash from the washer and left things horribly creased and shunk, even sturdy cottons.

People here seem to think these machines are great, but from my experience they were almost as useless as the neptunes I've used, and those were pathetic! Both were much better than the helical and orbital commercial Maytag toploaders I've used though.

My whites are still recovering over 6 months later! I doubt they ever will fully.



Post# 397299 , Reply# 5   12/3/2009 at 12:59 (5,256 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Programmable

Jaime, these machines would take longer and offer more rinses if they were a home use model. Perhaps someone here can tell me if there's a way to cheat their little brains to get another rinse and get a faster spin. Prior to MacCray we had Automatic Laundry services. MacCray takes up to 4 days for a service call and the level of customer service seems more abrupt that the interface with Automatic Laundry which was always pleasant and helpful. The pump does turn off during the drain period between wash and rinse which seems counterintuitve. The machines are quiet and sit rock solidly while spinning. Even with my criticisms machines are light years better than the top loaders and for that I can be glad.

Post# 397303 , Reply# 6   12/3/2009 at 13:15 (5,256 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

I'd say the irony is you have to pay twice to get a wash and thee rinses and it will still take a full hour.

I'll take 30 minute Wascomats that bolt down. Pre-wash, wash and three rinses as well as interim and final spins and all in about 30 minutes.


Post# 397314 , Reply# 7   12/3/2009 at 14:28 (5,256 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Free Wascomat

Sweet toggles, have you got a lead on a free Wascotmat I can use to take the place of the Neptunes?

Post# 397317 , Reply# 8   12/3/2009 at 14:37 (5,256 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)        
speed queen fl

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i love the drum in that speed queen frontloader, it looks like a unnatural design compared to other frontloaders

Post# 397342 , Reply# 9   12/3/2009 at 15:56 (5,256 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

The fact that wascomat is now owned by electrolux escaped me. I had a fall housecleaning and washed pillows, matt pads, all the comforters the biggest machine with the electrolux emblem, looked brand new, it took SEVENTEEN quarters, thankfully i had tossed a whole coffee can, full of change into the backseat. The next size down took 15 quarters. Ladies at the laundromat are always so nice to guys. " Now baby you put those heavy pads in the dryer on the end, it's the hottest". alr2903

Post# 397345 , Reply# 10   12/3/2009 at 16:03 (5,256 days old) by favorit ()        

Jamie,
these SQ are board-controlled, for sure they're full programmable. My guess is the administrator has programmed just one single rinse to save further water . Mac Cray sounds Scottish .. maybe with other relations in Genoa ;-)

Older machines had a key (meaning a door key) to allow certain settings. Today there's kinda PIN code to enter menu settings (e.g. the Little Giants can be locked with 4 basic cycles or 12 cycles or the whole choice)

It's a pity, such a well built machine castrated by a dull cycle compilation. No wonder if so many people in the US complain about FLs. I bet that SQ has not any delicate/high level cycle programmed, just hot/warm/cold with low level and period

Kelly, a mesh wash bag is the solution to wash properly those small items that usually get trapped between glass and boot.

Ciao
Carlo


Post# 397363 , Reply# 11   12/3/2009 at 17:58 (5,256 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Mesh Bag

There are 15 units, 33 tenants and 7 are under the age of 5. It is baby socks and lingerie that seem to get plastered to the glass. I doubt the laundry awareness of my tenancy goes much beyond stuff and dump so not much hope of mesh bags. The small items appear as if they're going into the pump but there is a hard plastic sheild that protects against it. Since there is no tilt to the washbasket all the laundry has a tendancy to flop against the glass in a vain attempt at escape.

Post# 397372 , Reply# 12   12/3/2009 at 19:30 (5,256 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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The SQ's are certainly nice looking but one rinse?? Yuk. I'd bet they are able to be set for other options by the owner, Peter will probably know for sure. When the Neptune coin-ops first came out, you could pay extra for a longer wash cycle but I don't remember what all the options were for that.

You can hold the door switch button in on the Neptune for a while to see the wash cycle but once it gets to a certain point, it will stop and cry for help if it doesn't sense the door locked fully.


Post# 397387 , Reply# 13   12/3/2009 at 20:15 (5,256 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

~lead on a free Wascomat.

No I don't know. I DO know that Wascomats are pricey, even used. But PeterH owns a laundromat. Maybe he can guide you to some websites or laundromat chat boards.

I have a feeling that if you ask for it, it will manifest itself.




Post# 397395 , Reply# 14   12/3/2009 at 20:39 (5,256 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
MAH7500's!

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I will get a set of those someday. They are just about the only F/L set that has a chance of kicking the MAH4000's to the side...

RCD


Post# 397404 , Reply# 15   12/3/2009 at 21:36 (5,256 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Did someone say Wascomat? Well, If he still has them, I know a source that you could get some. They are 3 phase machines, and yes they ain't free. Gen4, 5 are still expensive used. Gen 3 you could find for not too much. Look in you area for distributors and businesses that sell them. They may sell you one for scrap price.

Post# 397407 , Reply# 16   12/3/2009 at 21:56 (5,256 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)        

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I think the home version of the SQ FLs have longer wash cycles (45 minutes for a regular wash) and default to two rinses, with a switch for a extra third one.

I also have the same problem with small kids socks and kid-sized washcloths ending up on the rubber boot next to the door glass in my Bosch 500. I always try to check a few times during the wash & rinse and often have to pop open the door and toss 'em to the back of the drum.


Post# 397415 , Reply# 17   12/3/2009 at 22:35 (5,256 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        
Speed Queen Specs

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Perhaps this is the model?

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Post# 397424 , Reply# 18   12/4/2009 at 01:29 (5,256 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Quantum Control

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I think you can change programming with...





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Post# 398251 , Reply# 19   12/8/2009 at 12:26 (5,251 days old) by mixfinder ()        
All Fuzzed Up

Three weeks into learning to adapt to front load washing. I miss the ease of a dial and buttons. I started the hot wash and after it filled, switched to warm wash and rinse to have the clothes rinsed in warm water. The washer stopped, unlocked the door and would not continue. I set it back to hot wash cold rinse and it continued to unlock the door and sit. The whites heavy soil cycle takes 87 minutes. I walked away and after awhile it resumed. The dryer seems to function fine but it doesn't like my style of unloading. When the dryer is finished I take a few garmets from the tub to fold and restart the dryer to prevent wrinkling. I continue the process until the load is all folded. The dryer would recalculate it's cycle options each time I restarted. I will sit with the manuals for a tutorial to see if it addresses such obsessive operator quirks. I am surprised at the change in linens. My 800 thread count sheets comes out more wrinkled but feeling and looking more like linen. I take that as a positive. On the down side, I am having linting problems which never occured in the top loader. I washed a load of cottons sweaters and with them was one acrylic. Everything was covered in lint and I had to lint roll each garmet. So far I see no advantage at all to owning a front loader except for the water consumption which may of greater concern to some than to me. I find I do less laundry since its lost it's entertainment value.

Post# 398260 , Reply# 20   12/8/2009 at 13:09 (5,251 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

With a machine like that there's no wonder a "vintage" top loader is better! One rinse?!?! Yuck! Even 3 rinses (in a crap Whirlpool FL) most of the times aren't enough for me as I can still feel detergent.

Post# 398324 , Reply# 21   12/8/2009 at 18:35 (5,251 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Maytag for Mixfinder

I have a set of Maytag frontloaders that are mine. Co-incidentally the apartment where I live got a new set of Speed Queen front loaders the same week. The Speed Queen is more fun because you can watch the laundry. The Maytag has no window and the touch screen controls aren't my favorite.

Post# 399391 , Reply# 22   12/13/2009 at 11:06 (5,246 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Wascomats...

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I just used a local laundromat the other day; probably my first time in one in years. I just wanted to take the bedspread down and get a good thorough wash and dry. Not a single toploader in the entire place! I'm used to at least seeing a few dependable care Maytags or something but all they had were 3 FL Neptunes. Everything else was some version of a Wascomat.

Years ago I used to go to a laundromat when I was living in my college dorm. I remember it was called "This Suds for You" as it was sporting a small smokey bar that served cheap beer. It was so smokey in that little bar that the laundry side of the building smelled too (sometimes people would just walk over to get their laundry folded while still smoking their cigarette. Nice...

Anywho, those Wascomats really used the water. I remember some of them filling up nearly to the top of the glass on the door. The clothes were absolutely swimming! Even the triple-load machines would fill up rather nicely. The other day with the comforter yielded much different results. Not a single machine had visible water in them. I was hoping for a least a little more in one of the rinses but no. Very little.

It made me really appreciate the washers I've got here at home. One thing an old washer could always do better was rinse!


Post# 401400 , Reply# 23   12/22/2009 at 14:54 (5,237 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Technical Support

The instructions downloaded and printed in both English and French but answered all my concerns. Now I am able to program a warm rinse option with hot wash, spin only, extended soak and other options that are to my liking. I have noticed this machine has a higher water level in the tub than Peter's first generation Neptunes. Was there a manufacturer adjustment along the way or is it just a fluke the newer Neptune uses more water?


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