Thread Number: 25871
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Post# 397375   12/3/2009 at 19:56 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397376 , Reply# 1   12/3/2009 at 19:58 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397377 , Reply# 2   12/3/2009 at 19:59 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397378 , Reply# 3   12/3/2009 at 19:59 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397379 , Reply# 4   12/3/2009 at 20:00 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397380 , Reply# 5   12/3/2009 at 20:01 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397381 , Reply# 6   12/3/2009 at 20:02 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397382 , Reply# 7   12/3/2009 at 20:04 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397383 , Reply# 8   12/3/2009 at 20:05 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397384 , Reply# 9   12/3/2009 at 20:06 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397385 , Reply# 10   12/3/2009 at 20:08 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 397392 , Reply# 11   12/3/2009 at 20:35 (5,229 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 397393 , Reply# 12   12/3/2009 at 20:35 (5,229 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 397394 , Reply# 13   12/3/2009 at 20:35 (5,229 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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and the light from the pink KA is just gorgeous, shimmering. My breath sucked in and my mouth went WOW. Have you seen the commercial for the people who need to control their pee where the characters are all made of pipe and wire and brass, even the dog? That's what the insides of the Youngstown reminded me of, and I laughed. I like the way it molds perfectly into the wndow sill. I see you have hot water/steam heat. Isn't it grand?-- so clean and your kitchen is immaculate and beautiful and museum-worthy. |
Post# 397401 , Reply# 16   12/3/2009 at 21:28 (5,229 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()   |   | |
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I like that Kitchenaid with the window!!! Is that a custom job Robert? |
Post# 397402 , Reply# 17   12/3/2009 at 21:30 (5,229 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)   |   | |
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Post# 397414 , Reply# 18   12/3/2009 at 22:34 (5,229 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Robert, Didn't you get a Apex Dishwasher a while back ? What ever happened to that baby ? Eddie the Apex dishwasher is hooked up downstairs in the basement. I see you have hot water/steam heat. Isn't it grand?-- so clean and your kitchen is immaculate and beautiful and museum-worthy. Yup Mike we have hot water heat, it keeps the whole house generally at one constant temperature and no dust. As for why the kitchen floor is so shiney and clean you'll have to ask my better half that :-D Looking back at your pictures of your Hotpoint....that impeller looks so different than most impeller machines. Do you by chance have a close up shot of it? It looks like it has more "fins". Hi Brent, of course impeller pict attached at the bottom of page just for you. The upper wings are for moving air during dry! It performs marvelously. I like that Kitchenaid with the window!!! Is that a custom job Robert? Yup supremewp, I built that last year, here are the related threads: Thread Number: 17694 Thread Number: 18552 and the video: |
Post# 397419 , Reply# 19   12/3/2009 at 22:53 (5,229 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 397423 , Reply# 21   12/4/2009 at 01:25 (5,229 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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The video of the pimpalicious pink KA front loader is great. That machine appears to be very similar, internally, to my '58 KA top loader, which also lets out a torrent of wash water. If one removes the racks, the drumming on the lid can be heard through one's stomach... The light and the picture window make it all worthwhile. Someday I might fab up a plexiglass lid for the KD2P, with a little fluorescent light shining in from the back. I need to redo the custom hinges anyway, at some point, since I've since figured out how they are supposed to work from the hinges on the Variflex. |
Post# 397441 , Reply# 23   12/4/2009 at 06:40 (5,228 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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And I keep telling hubby that all the time... LOL The new arrangement looks stunning, Robert!! That Hotpoint looks brand-new - what a neat concept having a front load-impeller wash dishwasher. And that KitchenAid is totally awesome. You must have repainted it, if that is the one that you had posted previously (after having engineered the door window). The Youngstown Kitchens is unique, too! You have three fun choices to deal with dishes - simply wonderful!! |
Post# 397463 , Reply# 24   12/4/2009 at 08:31 (5,228 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Robert, You did not do any sound insulating of the Hotpoint? They can really benefit from that. No Tom I haven't and I've been thinking of doing that, the problem is I have yet to find some high-temp, non-flammable insulation. Of course I haven't looked except at Home Depot, so I probably should get on that. |
Post# 397476 , Reply# 25   12/4/2009 at 10:33 (5,228 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Have you ever tried starting the KitchenAid at the rinses to give a prerinse or prewash while getting the load up to temperature and then restarting it? I found it really improved the results with not quite freshly soiled loads. No I haven't Tom, of course if I did that I would have to open the door fast to add detergent and that would let out some of the heat. I try to never open the door once its started to keep as much heat in as possible. I found a very interesting design flaw in the KitchenAid that one could not see without a window. During the 45 second pre-rinse flush the way the fill flume is angled to spray the water upwards and outwards to cover the entire machine, the incoming hot water drips have a tendency to wash detergent out of the detergent cup and down the drain before the machine goes into the fill cycle. It gets so bad sometimes that it washes 50% of the detergent down the drain before it has any use. I try to strategically place something above the detergent cup to shield it from the pre-flush if at all possible. |
Post# 397530 , Reply# 26   12/4/2009 at 16:16 (5,228 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 397535 , Reply# 27   12/4/2009 at 16:36 (5,228 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)   |   | |
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Post# 397659 , Reply# 30   12/5/2009 at 09:27 (5,227 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Robert can't wait to come play all the apps Smity&I will see you @ christmas.( note on hot water heating systems no type of properly installed and operating system makes dust and dirt. Only forced air systems actually make the house cleaner because of the great air filters available today hot air systems are also the least dry systems when installed with a power humidifier.)
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Post# 397676 , Reply# 31   12/5/2009 at 11:23 (5,227 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)   |   | |
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When properly maintained, a forced air system filters the air, unfortunately, so many people don't change their filters as often as they should, nor do they use sufficiently high-quality filters. My parents' filters are only changed when I visit and have time do it for them. They have 3 furnaces and they have gone over a year between filter changings. I like hot water and steam heating because it tends to be more forgiving of less-than-perfect maintenance. Also, the silence of a properly-bled hot water system is wondrous to behold. I love the dishwashers Robert. I just need to get a KD-12 too, Dave |
Post# 397824 , Reply# 32   12/6/2009 at 10:38 (5,226 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 397826 , Reply# 33   12/6/2009 at 10:52 (5,226 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 397985 , Reply# 36   12/7/2009 at 09:27 (5,225 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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And how long are the cycles on those vintage machines----30 minutes, maybe? Awesome! Eugene, the Youngstown runs between 9 and 11 minutes depending on the water pressure at the moment since it has metered fills. The KitchenAid has 1 flush, 1 wash, 2 rinse and dry which runs about 35 minutes and the Hotpoint with 1 flush, 2 washes, 2 rinses and dry runs about 40 minutes. The Youngstown is perfect for a day of baking as you can keep washing things and use them again in no time flat. Oh, I hope you were kidding about that Kitchenaid wash arm weighing 600lb ? Totally John, but it is really heavy, maybe 15lbs to 20lbs. Tom is correct about dishwasher detergents. You cannot say oh I remember that dishwasher from 40 years, it was a terrible cleaner as dishwasher detergents have improved so much over time. We would really need to retest all the machines now to get an accurate rating. Although the Hotpoint and KitchenAid are close in cleaning ability, both powerful and excellent, the Youngstown really isn't that far behind with modern detergents. |
Post# 398116 , Reply# 38   12/7/2009 at 21:39 (5,225 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 398145 , Reply# 39   12/7/2009 at 22:38 (5,225 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()   |   | |
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Again Robert, very nice job on the window. It's now a very special and unique Kitchenaid dishwasher. |
Post# 398152 , Reply# 40   12/7/2009 at 23:15 (5,225 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)   |   | |
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robert, love that hotpoint especially! and that window in your kd-12 is totally unique. just got my kd-12 i picked up in cleveland hooked up and running myself. i was amazed at how well it really does clean. and that cast iron spray arm really moves! i use mine everyday now. and it washes a load in about 20 minutes! love your small appliance collection also, mixers especially. i just started collecting mixers myself, i'm up to 3 but will never let it go to the extreme i did with dishwasher collecting. really love your kitchen! those pics are this site at it's best! |
Post# 398186 , Reply# 41   12/8/2009 at 06:44 (5,224 days old) by westingman123 ()   |   | |
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>but will never let it got to the extreme I did with dishwasher collecting< Ahem, I said the same thing about vacuum cleaners, Good Luck with that. :-) |
Post# 398228 , Reply# 42   12/8/2009 at 10:38 (5,224 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 398234 , Reply# 43   12/8/2009 at 11:20 (5,224 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 398262 , Reply# 44   12/8/2009 at 13:35 (5,224 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Robert I remember when you put the saw to that machine,I thought that you were going to destroy it lol. The Kitchen is stunning and the machines are TRUE beauties of industrial art. When I first got on this great site, I went to ( see it wash ) and went to the Youngstown Dishwasher and was blown away because I never seen a wash arm like that before. Does that dishwasher still has a light in it like the aid ? The kitchenaid dishwasher I grow up with my neighbors the Morgans.... They only ran it twice for me, and the second time one of the glasses broke inside she put some glasses on the bottom rack! If she only knew...There is no mercy down there. So after that Mrs Morgan past away and here narrow minded daughter never used it again. She used it for storage I mean bags and bags in the interior so I would go and take them out just to see and turn that heavy wash arm and wished I could turn it on. But they cut the power to it , and the dial and the large door lock was defective the inside mint. That was in the 70's and would now and then try to get the machine away from her, but she always said ( wheeen I get my kitchen done) Which never happen... so the last time I saw it was in 2003 I would look at that machine every time I was over there so total over a 100 times lol. Just like I look at your video of that dishwaher a hundred times. It simply amazes me how one motor can turn that wash arm that fast!!! So seeing yours does feel a void. Did you get that Kitchenaid dishwasher at an estate sale for ten or twenty bucks that I recall ? Well I have a Kitchenaid KDS16 that has been setting for over a year now and want to get it going at some point, it is in the basement I wanted to use it as a second one down there but need to get more hookup's Toggleswitch2 did a hookup that I thought was real cool down his basement if he could share how he did it... I would really appreciated it and your thought's as well . This want be no time soon I am still Working on the Kenmore which Robert thanks again for the cap I will be E-mailing you soon. Life has been a little crazy lately. Here is the pic of the Dishwasher I grow up with. ( Jetcones Dishwasher.) This is the model without the stainless, there's matched the cabinet's witch was in a light wood grain. Darren k. |
Post# 398263 , Reply# 45   12/8/2009 at 13:48 (5,224 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 398264 , Reply# 46   12/8/2009 at 13:49 (5,224 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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