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New 2010 Kenmore Front Loaders |
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Post# 399614   12/14/2009 at 14:03 (5,218 days old) by drewz (Alexandria, Virginia)   |   | |
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This may already have been posted but has anyone noticed that the 2010 Kenmores (front loaders) are all made by LG now (with new Kenmore logo) none are made by Whirlpool for the 2010 model year. All (Whirlpool made) Kenmore front load machines are already on clearance, rumor has it Whirlpool could not keep up with demand??? Anybody hear anything different? |
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Post# 399618 , Reply# 2   12/14/2009 at 14:16 (5,218 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 399643 , Reply# 3   12/14/2009 at 16:11 (5,218 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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From what I read that Sears severed ties with Whirlpool and LG will be making all front load laundry products. I also got that info from a sales person on the floor at Sears. Eventually all conventional toploaders are to be phased out. Since Sears is doing that they had better make damn sure they have parts in stock. LG is awful for parts never mind service.
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Post# 399664 , Reply# 4   12/14/2009 at 17:33 (5,217 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 399687 , Reply# 5   12/14/2009 at 18:32 (5,217 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Massman, are you saying that Sears is going to stop selling all conventional top loaders? Will they be phased out by all manufacturers? Talk about a government and appliance industry conspiracy. |
Post# 399706 , Reply# 6   12/14/2009 at 19:33 (5,217 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 399711 , Reply# 7   12/14/2009 at 19:51 (5,217 days old) by bleacho ()   |   | |
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thats all it was.. LG was smrter, and more competitive in pricing. very clever move on LG's part. sad for whirlpool- all about cost.. see, everyones replaceable. |
Post# 399737 , Reply# 8   12/14/2009 at 21:11 (5,217 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 399787 , Reply# 9   12/15/2009 at 00:38 (5,217 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 399788 , Reply# 10   12/15/2009 at 00:47 (5,217 days old) by vintagesearch ()   |   | |
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ohh well guess we can buy tl'ers at other stores we havent purchased any appliances at sears LOL and even though i like frontloaders somewhat a HE tl'er is more in the cards here |
Post# 399800 , Reply# 11   12/15/2009 at 03:30 (5,217 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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I think Sears has worse problems than who makes their washing machines. As togs says. it's about money and "international products". alr2903 |
Post# 399801 , Reply# 12   12/15/2009 at 03:58 (5,217 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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Sears can make more selling rebadge knemore from LG than they can Whirlpool all in the dollar thats all it is.. |
Post# 399825 , Reply# 13   12/15/2009 at 07:14 (5,217 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Rummors I hear are Sears is hemoraging cash since their merge with K-Mart (who by the way was in bankruptcy at the time). It is being said if they don't have a stellular Christmas season, Sears and K-Mart will join the ranks with Montgomery Wards. As Sudsman said, "Sears can make more selling rebadge knemore from LG than they can Whirlpool all in the dollar thats all it is.. " Now just imagine going to the bankruptcy sale at Sears and only being able to find LG washers. Sad, so very very sad. |
Post# 399835 , Reply# 14   12/15/2009 at 08:43 (5,217 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)   |   | |
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There is no way Sears kicked wp to the curb. They just announced that Sears will be the EXCLUSIVE big box to carry Jenn Air. To quote from an article I read: "Under terms of the agreement, Sears agreed to have 17 Jenn-Air appliances on display and turn key sales personnel over to Jenn-Air for training. Jenn-Air plans to fly 255 Sears sales associates, one from each Sears store carrying the luxury line, to its training facility in Atlanta by the end of the year to school them on how to sell the high-end machines." If that's not still working together, I don't know what is. From what I've heard recently, the new fl washers are just supposed to be in addition to the Wp built washers. I cannot say that on fact though. As far as conventional TL washers, they eventually will be phased out due to efficiency standards. My wp rep let it slip that they are developing a next-gen direct drive, but I'll believe that if I ever see one. I haves my doubts. CLICK HERE TO GO TO runematic's LINK |
Post# 399884 , Reply# 16   12/15/2009 at 14:57 (5,217 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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I was told by a long-time Sears appliance dept. salesperson that LG was going to be making the Kenmore Elite units because Whirlpool couldn't keep up with demand. Incredulous, I quizzed her on that tidbit, and the "facts" morphed into an unrecognizable lump and she then admitted she didn't know for sure what the laundry model structure was going to be from LG, WP or Elux just that Sears would be sourcing more from LG than they had previously. There are already Kenmore stickers on LG products galore so this really wasn't much of a revelation. Samsung seems to be jumping into the mix at Sears as well, though I've not seen any Samshung laundry with Kenmore stickers on them - yet.
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Post# 399922 , Reply# 18   12/15/2009 at 19:37 (5,216 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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I disagree completely. LG's only advantage or "smartness" as you call it is they make machines in a 3rd world economy and sell them in a 1st world economy. If they sold as many machines in Korea as they do here then I'd give them the smart label. Nothing smart in copying something, making it on the cheap and dumping it on our market. All their doing is shifting the wealth generated here with real living wages to a 3rd world economy. Sure the executives live well but it that won't build the country up as a model to compare to the first half of the 20th century here where WE INVENTED ALL THIS STUFF IN THE FIRST PLACE. |
Post# 400061 , Reply# 21   12/16/2009 at 13:37 (5,216 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 400077 , Reply# 22   12/16/2009 at 15:04 (5,216 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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never another LG Anything service sucks like a shop vac. |
Post# 400088 , Reply# 23   12/16/2009 at 16:50 (5,216 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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I know others that have LG laundry appliances and are perfectly happy with them. One friend bought one on Father's Day 1999, almost the first day they were available at Best Buy. We installed them that afternoon and they haven't had a bit of trouble with them. When do the Miele machines arrive, Andrew?? |
Post# 400097 , Reply# 24   12/16/2009 at 17:07 (5,215 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)   |   | |
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Seems they toss, turn, flop, and do everything but deal your clothes like a deck of cards. Time will tell. The square door with smoke-colored glass reminds me of bad sunglasses of the 70s--and it doesn't really look good with the color of the machines. And the "touch" buttons scream problems...imho. They have a countdown on Kenmore.com for an announcement on 12/20/09
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Post# 400571 , Reply# 26   12/18/2009 at 20:05 (5,213 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 400591 , Reply# 27   12/18/2009 at 21:47 (5,213 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 400636 , Reply# 28   12/19/2009 at 05:19 (5,213 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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LG issues. 1) Long Cycle times. 2) Dryer had annoying rattle. 3) Senseless Balancing before spinning. 4) Never reaching the top rated spin speed. 5) Tub bearings started squeaking before the machine was a year old. 6) Dryer's 3 minute cool down was too short. 7) With Wrinkle Guard activated, there would be no end of cycle signal. 8) Washer's button beep and end of cycle signal would deactivate after 3 or 4 cycles, the dryer stays permanently engaged. 9) Wash target temps were never reached. Hot water washing was never higher than 102 degrees. 10) Rinsing was poor. If bleach was used, the smell of it would be strong at the end of the cycle. This applied to vinegar as well. Amazing amount of water would be used for the "TUB CLEAN" cycle, but not for rinsing your laundry. WTH? Other than that, these machines were okay. It's a shame I got sucked into the purchase mostly because of their good looks. Malcolm |
Post# 400657 , Reply# 29   12/19/2009 at 08:33 (5,213 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)   |   | |
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Post# 400697 , Reply# 30   12/19/2009 at 15:18 (5,213 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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I was told that Sears is hemorrhaging money on the exchange rates for all of these imported appliances with the low value of the dollar. |
Post# 400750 , Reply# 31   12/19/2009 at 22:15 (5,212 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)   |   | |
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Post# 402586 , Reply# 33   12/29/2009 at 12:53 (5,203 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)   |   | |
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Post# 402732 , Reply# 35   12/29/2009 at 23:02 (5,202 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)   |   | |
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Post# 402782 , Reply# 37   12/30/2009 at 10:14 (5,202 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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