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Post# 400682   12/19/2009 at 12:04 (5,212 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Looking at Vacbear's post, third from the bottom in British Rarities, he shows us a Frigidaire Jetamatic. I didn't know UK had any of the up-and-down models and was wondering about them, is it a 3 ringer, a 3 stage rocket, or the 5 stage jet? Then I dialed up the POD to find very satisfying pix and text of the 1-18, and Eureka! Check out Model W3-224, and how similar it is to the UK Model, Close, but no cigar, I know, but still. And I'm admiring all the things the TOL 1-18 can do, soak-to-wash (yes?) and appreciating how much fun you must have with them. I don't own one. Great POD and happy to learn our Brit Bros have pulsators. |
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Post# 400685 , Reply# 1   12/19/2009 at 12:14 (5,212 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 400703 , Reply# 4   12/19/2009 at 16:31 (5,212 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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I've used lots of 1-18s but there's some thing which perplexes me. In teh specs chart in the ad, the slow spin speed is rated at 420/435 rpms and fast is at 630/650 rpms. And please do not tell me, unless you can prove it, that these variances reflect the shift from low to high spin speed while it's spinning and draining the water.
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Post# 400710 , Reply# 5   12/19/2009 at 18:14 (5,212 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Could it have something to do with the power available. slightly slower at 110v and slightly faster at 115 or 120v whichever is the highest you can get without switching to 230/250v... As an example, our kettle is rated at 230-240v and will draw 2000-2200 watts. If the incoming power is at the lower end, it will take slightly longer to boil...the same may be true of the spin speed. It will spin slightly slower on 110v than it will on say 115v/120v... Mind, I may be completely wrong....but it would be worth looking at the rating plate and seeing if there is a voltage variance along the lines of 110-120v |
Post# 400717 , Reply# 6   12/19/2009 at 19:19 (5,212 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 400722 , Reply# 7   12/19/2009 at 19:34 (5,212 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Ahem. "My Beautiful Launderette" is required viewing for membership on this site LOL. During the film, you'll notice Daniel Day Lewis helping his "Paki" boyfriend get rid of a fleet of what I assume are Rollermatics( I found the scene painful to watch). Don't know if they were available to the home market but I'd guess so. |
Post# 400726 , Reply# 8   12/19/2009 at 19:43 (5,212 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Chris and Bob, I have no idea. Someone will know. Smart thinking though, both of you. Got me a' wonderin' but I'v got nothin' in the memory banks, "Alice" and Mark. You're making me want one for Christmas. Glad to hear they're so wonderful. Have heard conflicting reports about turnover, something to the effect that the water level needs to be between the first & second rocket stages from the top to achieve maximum turnover. but of you guys marvel at the 1-18's turnover that's good enough for me. Mark I blew up your pic. What is that cool-looking terrain your standing in front of ? So unusual. CLICK HERE TO GO TO mickeyd's LINK |
Post# 400728 , Reply# 9   12/19/2009 at 19:51 (5,212 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Now tomorrow people who missed this extravagant POD will be able to view it--I HOPE--unless of course, the link offers up tomorrow's POD. We'll have to wait and see. Hoping for that little tweak of Sam's nose ;'D I was always curious about the allure of the 1-18, and why so many members liked them so much. I'm beginning to understand. Is the circle jet spray rinse one of the clinchers? |
Post# 400749 , Reply# 11   12/19/2009 at 22:13 (5,212 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)   |   | |
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Post# 400751 , Reply# 12   12/19/2009 at 22:15 (5,212 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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rockets, moon launch mimicry, plumes of smoke, ring of suds--I love it. And you know what else: the big-finned, multi-pieced agitators took up a ton of space, while the trim sleek conical 1-18 rocket leaves so much more room for laundry. Have heard people say that it is among the best in capacity. Ken, I don't know how I missed that scene, but I'm still sure that our Chestermike said he had to come to America to see a Unimatic; thus, maybe the UK has only the jetcone editions of the Frigidiare. We'll know soon enough. |
Post# 400752 , Reply# 13   12/19/2009 at 22:20 (5,212 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 400753 , Reply# 14   12/19/2009 at 22:23 (5,212 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 400764 , Reply# 15   12/19/2009 at 23:09 (5,212 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)   |   | |
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Proper loading is done in quadrants, think of an X across the tub, stacking things in on top of each other in quadrants instead of just pitching them in any old way. It will perform better and tangle things less by utilizing this manner of loading. It also helps the solid-tub Frigidaires balance out better.
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Post# 400802 , Reply# 16   12/20/2009 at 04:36 (5,212 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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....it may not affect the frequency of pulsates per minute as the motor may not need to draw all its' wattage to perform this function, yet in spin, which is a heavy power drain, will draw it all as the motor is running at capacity. Still, someone on here will have the correct answer as I am only hypothesising.... |
Post# 400822 , Reply# 18   12/20/2009 at 09:08 (5,212 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Mickey, yes we had the usual Frigidaire Coin-Op machines in the launderettes with the window in the washlid, and all in pastel colours, our local had all turquoise coloured machines!! We also had the domestic Frigidaire Jetamatic, I take it this was your Rollamatic version?? the only difference being it had a 3kw heater, the two controls are RHS timer, LHS Fabric Type & Heater setting, |
Post# 400826 , Reply# 19   12/20/2009 at 09:18 (5,212 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Heres the Which consumer review, which if you look at it they only used 3.5 ounces of Persil Automatic powder in a large toploader when they used 4 ounces in both the English Electric and Hoover Automatic fronloaders, which have a lot lower water usage and so the washwater was more concentrated with the powder, so no wonder it was rated low on Stain Removal, I would have used 3 times that amount!!
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Post# 400835 , Reply# 20   12/20/2009 at 10:05 (5,212 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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and ya gotta love the flair of the artist who drew the gigantic jets of water in the "JETATION' ;->jetamatic overflow rinse. Thanks, Mister Michael, for figuring this out for us, but of course now the question is: if the rollermatics made it across Big Blue, why didn't the Unimatics, unless washing machine trade just wasn't up to speed yet and it took a while, at which point Unimatics were done. And thank you for the spectacular scans. And a pox on their rigged tests, always trying to undermine the lofty Frigidaires. Imagine: a rollermatic that heats! How sweet. Yes, Mike, we called it the jetaction rollermatic MARK: they are something else. Now I know why they call them "BAD" I had always wondered what the Badlands were, having heard about them all my life. So glad to know. Thank you. Great pic. CHRIS: You must have taken a smartie pill at bedtime to figure that out. ;'D Sounds like the perfect answer. |
Post# 400887 , Reply# 21   12/20/2009 at 15:04 (5,211 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Is Mum sitting me on top of the Jetaction Frigidaires our local Frigidaire equipped "Washeteria" was fitted with and letting me pour the powder down the centre of the agitator. I remember here closing the lid and putting the coins in the slider and pushing it in to start. They had a row of about a dozen machines in alternating pank, yellow and turquoise. They were replaced with a mixture of yellow "Tag" top loaders and Electrolux front loaders about 20 years ago- I remember them being stood out front for sale - from memory they were £25..... If only you could turn back time......... Seamus |
Post# 400888 , Reply# 22   12/20/2009 at 15:14 (5,211 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 400889 , Reply# 23   12/20/2009 at 15:15 (5,211 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 400891 , Reply# 24   12/20/2009 at 15:37 (5,211 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)   |   | |
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How can a washer be "very good" at washing but "poor" at stain removal? Surely a machine that washes well removes stains, and a machine that removes stains washes well? Very strange result. |
Post# 400906 , Reply# 26   12/20/2009 at 17:11 (5,211 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 401296 , Reply# 27   12/22/2009 at 07:46 (5,210 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Actually I used a rather more "pungent" expression, but to avoid upsetting delicate ears ..... Well I never knew that we had any pulsator models in this country and interesting that they were manufactured (or at least assembled) here too - well there is another one for the wanted list. Amusing too, I think, that the advertising blurb describes it as years ahead of its time, some 20 years or so after it had been launched in the US. And as for setting the pattern for washing machines of the future, they got that wrong, in this country at least ..... All interesting stuff though Al |
Post# 401335 , Reply# 28   12/22/2009 at 10:23 (5,210 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 401340 , Reply# 29   12/22/2009 at 10:42 (5,210 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hey Matt, Try not putting detergent in your machine on the next wash!!! Wash Action great but no Cleaning Ability...actually this result proves that they didnt use enough powder as they used 8oz of detergent at least in the similar Hotpoint TL....I wonder why?? do you think consumers actually picked Which up on that one?? perhaps us members should ask...LOl Hi Al, did you have no Washeteria`s near you that had them?? granted though, I have never come across anyone who had one / used a domestic Frigidaire jetamatic!! another Holy Grail, as Seamus said last night it would be a free for all if that came up!!! Mickey, are the commercial machines based on the 1-18`s with Jet circle Spray as well??? never got to see one close up or see them wash in the Launderette!!! |
Post# 401351 , Reply# 31   12/22/2009 at 11:07 (5,210 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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"T'anks" WASHETERIA: Only guessing here. In the UK it was a brand name for Frigi laundromats; in the states, it was regional slang, a blending of washer and cafeteria, the way a laundromat looks like one with the machines all lined up and serving. Up here, the Frigi Laundromats were called "Helpee Selfee," a comic twist on the traditional Chinese Laundry. |
Post# 401388 , Reply# 32   12/22/2009 at 14:16 (5,209 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Hey Mike...there is really no need for a second rinse in these baby's. I like the way it sprays while spinning it feels like 2 min worth of spin spraying and then the descend and break and the water still running for the fill... pretty cool. Maybe someone will have or know the spin rinse time. And Mike I like the knits cycle on gentle for colors. It pulses about 3 to 4 min and then soaks for about the same time with less agitation for my dark colors reduces fading with (Cheer) or (Woolite Dark) and can be also be used as a soak cycle on the regular speed.. just leave the top open. So here it is... I have a 1-18 at my brothers home in his garage in YELLO three cycle model don't have the model number but it will look like the one i have now in white which i love and very fortunate to have. The control panel is the same, only difference is... it has the window in the lid. So it works great ..but has a slow leak in the tub. So i would like to give it to you if you want it.. dont have room for more washers now so it has to GO! My brother is on my a## so think about it ok. I mapped you, you are about six hours away lol. He needs to go to a good home it is bored please REALLY think about .. it has been sitting in the corner of the garage coverd for three years. The machine looks pretty good. it does have a small break at the bottom of the Jetcone, nothing really serious.. a clean break on the bottom of the agitator I can get pics later of the washer. Chestermike... I have not seen or dont think the commercial units had a circle spray. the ones i saw filled in the front with the the jetcone you have in the literature only no cap has the open top. Would love to go in launromats and watch them because they had a window of course. Very splashy. lAUNDROMAT WAS CALLED SUD'Z- UR - DUD'Z LOL. In the 70's. Pic here is what the panel looks like. The rest of the machine again is yello with a window lid. Darren k. |
Post# 401389 , Reply# 33   12/22/2009 at 14:20 (5,209 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 401392 , Reply# 34   12/22/2009 at 14:33 (5,209 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 401394 , Reply# 35   12/22/2009 at 14:37 (5,209 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 401417 , Reply# 36   12/22/2009 at 16:24 (5,209 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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at Mistletoe time. Your offer is so generous, Darren, and in yellow (my favorite color--the sun) and glass-lidded. WOW! And it's just so funny about the leak because that's all I've been dealing with, lately. It took me a year to get the oil bellows and the two bellows wrenches to fix the WO-65 2. And now I have a 56 Unimatic with TWO leaks. My father, who was a plumber, is up in heaven laughing at me for not learning enough from him when I had the chance. What is your time frame, Buddy, and how bad is the leak. Is the leak in the tub itself, or is there a hole in the bellows? (if 1-18's have a bellows) Oops with a perforated tub a bellows hole probably wouldn't matter. Still in awe of you when you quit posting out of respect for Gordon when his machines were taken. Thanks for answering the question. The spray rinse lasts till the end of spin, then the clothes fall in. Awesome. MY brother had one in the 80's and still says it was the best machine he's ever seen, and wishes they were still made. |
Post# 401503 , Reply# 39   12/23/2009 at 02:48 (5,209 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)   |   | |
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Hey Mike, That Jetamatic takes me back, I remember as a kid asking my nan to help me fill in the corner of the advertisment in a magazine to get more literature, however i think i thought at the time i would be getting the actual machine !! I recently got the installation booklett, and as a bonus the seller found the instruction manual so chucked that in as well, haven't really looked through them yet, something to keep me occupied over the next few days. We use to have Frigidaire washer's (jet's) in the local launderette, i always use to try and see it wash, but as soon as the lid opened it stopped..thank gawd for Youtube !! Here's hoping for a new surge of machines in 2010.. Keith |
Post# 401509 , Reply# 40   12/23/2009 at 04:31 (5,209 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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morning Keith, do you mean the Jetamatic handbook & instructions?? wow wouldnt mind seeing those, can you check and confirm what the wash temps are?? Yes a few machines came around in 2009, lets see what emerges for next year!!! I bet you cant wait to get all your machines near you again!!! cheers, Mike I Do Believe This Is The Rarest Frigidaire of Them All!!! presenting the FrigiKelvaramaMayFilterFlow |
Post# 401510 , Reply# 41   12/23/2009 at 04:38 (5,209 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hey Darren, lovely set of machines and what a joy to have them all plumbed in ready to go!!! great steamy hot fill on the 1-18, I do like those shades of poppy, Paul, I never got near enough to the machines to find out they stopped on opening the lid, our local was also a full hit turquoise with a mega self serv dry cleaning machine, I pulled my nans trolly round with her big velvet curtains in, when I first heard of dry cleaning as a kid I always thought it was a kind of Dry Powder / Sand they used...Lol |
Post# 401555 , Reply# 42   12/23/2009 at 10:18 (5,209 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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the picture with the tower Uni on the left and the bronze 1-18 on the right is Jon Jetcone's basement, or laundry parlor ;=> I don't know how he did it. I guess he is a whiz importing, storing , and retrieving photos. Of, course I could be mistaken. We had brilliant sunshine here yesterday; and all I thought of during my walk was sunny yellow glass-lidded 1-18's and a few nekkid dolls. :-> It would be great to see the jetamatic manuals. Still appreciating the blue jetamatic, Mikey. LID SWITCHES: The 58 Tower Uni we had stopped all action when the lid was raised, and the lid switch could not be tricked. It was aweful. You could get a peak if you squatted down and peaked thru about a 2 inch opening. The 65 Rollermatic we had let you watch everything since the lid switch could be easily kept down by wedging a wad of wet tissue between it and the hinge. It was bliss. |
Post# 401847 , Reply# 43   12/25/2009 at 10:13 (5,207 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Merry Christmas Mike and everyone... I forgot about that doll my friends she hangs out with me and do wash i should put some clothes on her lol. Mike E-mail me about the washer. Chestermike & keith Not really a tecnician That picture is from this site in... Photos of collections Jon ( jetcone ) beautiful machines and his plumbing..i wished i had that plumbing, i have three washers that can run on mine. The electroluxe that you see in the corner is a BENDIX washer Keith. Mike are you still seeing yellow ? Have a good holiday guy's Darren k. |
Post# 401853 , Reply# 44   12/25/2009 at 10:38 (5,207 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Funny you should ask about seeing yellow yesterday I fed the seagulls dozens and dozens of them --I had a ton of bread-- and as they were hovering above my head the angle of the sun hit them just right and their bellies all turned a luminous yellow dancing aloft waiting to catch my throws it was amazing and I started laughing yellow yellow everywhere every day YAY You can leave the dolly be; it's just so funny the way she just "pops" out up there. The email is next, Santa Claus |
Post# 401945 , Reply# 45   12/25/2009 at 23:53 (5,206 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 401997 , Reply# 46   12/26/2009 at 11:21 (5,206 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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So that's the magic trick, huh? Normal water level yields perfect turnover. Your close-ups of the "turn" are so long and satisfying A new height in washerography; really think we have not seen that before It's awesome, Ben, honest, I'm actually laughing from the joy of it. Just thinking that maybe the over-all high performance of the 1-18 comes from that over-the-top spray rinse. What a rinse! You said it wasn't as loud in person, so I'm wondering if there is a distinct sound muffled out when it switches from low to high spin the way the multimatics bong and whoosh. It's so nice to see Frigidaire hallmarks stayed till the end the cool vanes in the tub, esp, on the tub floor rinse drama: instead of the overflow, an incredible jet spray I've been watching this for over an hour now--better get off my butt and get busy, But, Ben you should start a separate thread for this so that everyone sees it. It still Christmas at Aworg with this flick. Spectacular, Benjamin.... Spec-friggin'-takuhler ;'D |
Post# 402020 , Reply# 48   12/26/2009 at 14:34 (5,205 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)   |   | |
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Post# 402124 , Reply# 49   12/26/2009 at 23:42 (5,205 days old) by autowasherfreak ()   |   | |
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AWESOME video, if I had a 1-18, I would be watching it instead of the TV. |
Post# 402378 , Reply# 50   12/28/2009 at 11:37 (5,203 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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have only recently seen the 8 vane (not in operation, just a pic) and not surprised because my experience with the 4 vane has not been stellar, always thinking it needed something more, so 4 more vanes should do it. Have you seen the 8 vane in operation? Exciting? I don't use the 4 vane except to hold the mini-basket; otherwise the 3 ramper is only way to go. At least for me. But now you've got me wondering. I'll go down later and try the 4 vaner with fresh eyes and a new perspective. Thanks. And the next movie will show the comparison turnovers of the ramp vs. vane. Jim, Agreed, No TV, just 1-18 ;'D |
Post# 402563 , Reply# 52   12/29/2009 at 09:50 (5,203 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 402625 , Reply# 53   12/29/2009 at 15:33 (5,202 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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keep in mind with less water, there still need to be just enough water to surge thru the clothes. Also, don't forget about lint circulation. |
Post# 402799 , Reply# 54   12/30/2009 at 11:58 (5,201 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Don't know which one I like the more: Mike's blue Jetamatics or Ben's 1-18 Oscar Winner. OR, Mellow Yellow in Daren's brother's basement. SEAMUS, your " row of about a dozen machines in alternating pink, yellow and turquoise." sounds amazing. How much fun that must have been to see them. HARRY, a few sentences on the 8 vane, please. Have you seen it operate? Didn't get a chance yet to review the performance of the 4 vane. EVERYONE: Please do not overlook Ben's movie; it's a classic! |
Post# 402806 , Reply# 55   12/30/2009 at 12:39 (5,201 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Ben That is another Fantastic video... Well he got my friends to get up and dance around to CERRONE ( Give me love ) Love that song, def a funky dance tune ! The 1-18 the shoots of what you got are so kool. I think Ben should be the master video guy for A. W. And there are other guy's here that makes colorful interesting vids as well . Mike the video is a masterpiece. Thanks Ben. Darren k. |