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Thread Number: 26116
Restoring the Unimatic WO-65 - HELP NEEDED! |
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Post# 400970 , Reply# 1 12/20/2009 at 22:21 (5,239 days old) by thomasortega  (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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2nd picture 
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Post# 400971 , Reply# 2 12/20/2009 at 22:24 (5,239 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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money shot the brown spot on the drum isn't rust. it's some lint fragments and WD40 residue. 
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Post# 400993 , Reply# 3 12/21/2009 at 07:21 (5,239 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 401165 , Reply# 6 12/21/2009 at 20:36 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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back of the same part 
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Post# 401166 , Reply# 7 12/21/2009 at 20:39 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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the previous picture was awful... sorry... I'm using my cell phone to take those pictures. Pulsator: It's very damaged but still useable (I think) 
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Post# 401167 , Reply# 8 12/21/2009 at 20:42 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Pulsator, back of it. 
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Post# 401168 , Reply# 9 12/21/2009 at 20:43 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Pulsator detail 
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Post# 401175 , Reply# 10 12/21/2009 at 20:49 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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What's the name of this part? it's very damaged. The last segment on it's bottom is so worn that it split. actually, if I press it or pull it, it will break in several fragments. the metal ring that looks like stainless steel looks perfect! 
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Post# 401176 , Reply# 11 12/21/2009 at 20:50 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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same part, detail. 
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Post# 401177 , Reply# 12 12/21/2009 at 20:52 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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same part, other detail 
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Post# 401179 , Reply# 13 12/21/2009 at 20:54 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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more bad news.... more damaged rubber 
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Post# 401180 , Reply# 14 12/21/2009 at 20:55 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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same area, detail 1 
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Post# 401182 , Reply# 15 12/21/2009 at 20:56 (5,238 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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same area, detail 2 And that's all for tonight. What should I do next? (small steps, day after day) 
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| Post# 401212 , Reply# 18 12/21/2009 at 22:32 (5,238 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania) | ||
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My C-Clamp picture didn't load Here it is again.... 
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| Post# 401213 , Reply# 19 12/21/2009 at 22:39 (5,238 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania) | ||
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oh yeah See if someone has a NOS or even a used pulsator diaphragm, yours looks like a Salvatore Dali painting (The Persistance of Pulsating). I hate to see you go through replacing the bellows and having to put that old diaphragm back on. Someone out there might have a lead for you. Davy | ||
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Post# 401293 , Reply# 20 12/22/2009 at 07:31 (5,237 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Thanks dave! -------------- I think, while I can't find the parts, I'm going to take the tub out and start a deep cleaning of it. Would somebody help me removing the tub? The manual I have just say to check intructions on chapter one, which I don't have. I'm sure this cleaning will consume a lot of time so I can continue playing with it without hurries to pass the time. | ||
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Post# 401301 , Reply# 21 12/22/2009 at 08:06 (5,237 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Don't give up on the parts! There is a place in Parma, Ohio who has turned up all kinds of Frigidaire Parts (Modern Parts House is the name of the place, phone 216-661-6966). They won't ship internationally (I was not able to have them ship spares directly to me in Canada) BUT someone here on the board may be able to act as a mail drop for you. It is worth investigating! He may have the bellows and maybe even the pulsator!!
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Post# 401309 , Reply# 22 12/22/2009 at 08:28 (5,237 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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I have to say this restoring wouldn't be possible without Emilio Berisso's help. Thank you very much Emilio! He's from Buenos Aires, found the machine on the Argentinian ebay (mercadolibre), sent me an alert and helped during the whole negotiation with the seller and the shipping. Emilio, when you read this please send me an email because I lost your address. | ||
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Post# 401311 , Reply# 23 12/22/2009 at 08:35 (5,237 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Thanks Paul! Do you know if they have an email or a website? or at least the time difference? Considering now it's 12:30 PM here in Brazil, 9:30 AM in New York, what time is it in Parma? | ||
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Post# 401312 , Reply# 24 12/22/2009 at 08:43 (5,237 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Removing the tub is easy and clearly described in the service books scanned in the Service Manual Library.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO unimatic1140's LINK | ||
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Post# 401315 , Reply# 25 12/22/2009 at 08:56 (5,237 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Robert, thanks again for the manual. However, even with the manual, I prefer to recheck the procedures step by step to avoid any irreversible mistake. To remove the tub only, I just need to remove the 8 screws I can see inside it, right? Is there something else to do? | ||
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Post# 401317 , Reply# 27 12/22/2009 at 09:04 (5,237 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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No email or website for Modern parts...
Thomas, Larry at Modern Parts does not have a computer so there is no way of reaching him by email. However, he does have a fax: 216-661-3400. They are in Central Time, which would be one hour ahead of New York City (so 12:30 PM in Brazil would be 10:30 AM in Parma, Ohio). I hope he can help you out here!!
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| Post# 401320 , Reply# 28 12/22/2009 at 09:16 (5,237 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania) | ||
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Those 8 screws just hold the hub assembly to the tub. There is no reason to take the hub assembly off of the tub. You will be able to clean the tub beautifully with the hub assembly still attached. | ||
| Post# 401359 , Reply# 30 12/22/2009 at 11:39 (5,237 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania) | ||
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Hey, that's what we are all here for buddy!!! NEVER be afraid to ask for help. | ||
| Post# 401414 , Reply# 31 12/22/2009 at 15:39 (5,237 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
larry at modern parts house in parma
does not have any oil or water bellows left. at least when i spoke with him last (several months ago). larry has no web site. i just bought water and oil bellows from mark michaels, he might be able to get some more. he found a source in pittsburg i believe. you might also try dave's repair on the web, i bought some from him earlier this year. i will post mark's phone no. here later tonite, don't have it available now. good luck with it | ||
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Post# 401451 , Reply# 32 12/22/2009 at 20:14 (5,237 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Thanks Peter! I already have Mark's number and called him this morning. Unfortunately he doesn't have these parts too. | ||
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Post# 401452 , Reply# 33 12/22/2009 at 20:17 (5,237 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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NO UPDATES TONIGHT. I had to go to the supermarket with my mom, and I can't understand how Walmart can be so different in the U.S. Here all the staff is very polite (some of them are slow as a turtle) but they are always smiling and trying to do their best to make the clients feel comfortable. | ||
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Post# 401517 , Reply# 34 12/23/2009 at 06:44 (5,237 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Source of Frigidaire parts....
Thomas, here is a link to an eBay auction in California for what looks like an original Frigidaire part. This seller had a number of items listed but without any photos, however, they have listed Frigidaire part numbers... This just may help with something!!
CLICK HERE TO GO TO turquoisedude's LINK on eBay | ||
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Post# 401522 , Reply# 35 12/23/2009 at 06:58 (5,237 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Another source...
This was posted in the Super forum - it may be of some use also!!
CLICK HERE TO GO TO turquoisedude's LINK | ||
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Post# 401531 , Reply# 36 12/23/2009 at 08:16 (5,236 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Thanks! Is that a partt of my machine? Not sure, I'll check the manual when I arrive home. (I'm at work in Paraguay now) | ||
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Post# 401815 , Reply# 38 12/25/2009 at 00:31 (5,235 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 401883 , Reply# 39 12/25/2009 at 15:01 (5,234 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania) | ||
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sure as hell came off easier than my WCIL tub bolt! | ||
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Post# 401920 , Reply# 40 12/25/2009 at 18:30 (5,234 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Wooooo hoooooooo! The tub was released... Next issue: Removing the tub from the machine It weights like hell and I can't do this alone. (maybe I should ask one or two or all of the five sexy security guards to help me LOL) | ||
| Post# 402087 , Reply# 41 12/26/2009 at 20:32 (5,233 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
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i spoke with mark michaels
today and i asked him about the bellows you need. he says he has them both! that's a big step towards getting your machine running again. also when you pull the tub out be careful not to damage in any way the water seal. they are pretty much n.l.a. i always put a plastic bag or a cut off 2 liter coke bottle over mine to keep it from getting knicked from anything. it has to be perfect to seal properly. the other side of it is the bronze mating surface that will be attached to the bottom of your tub when you pull it. this can also be easily removed if you like ( i put mine in a plastic bag) until you are ready to reinstall tub. good luck | ||
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Post# 402216 , Reply# 43 12/27/2009 at 15:41 (5,232 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Update Dec 27 - 7:40 PM I just decided to hold my restoration until Brian (BrianL) reach the same point, so we can both be helped at the same time. Please check his thread "Look what I found". | ||
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Post# 402262 , Reply# 44 12/27/2009 at 20:05 (5,232 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey) |
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I am wondering if Mark Michaels source in Pittsburgh is that person who posted on Craigslist Pittsburgh (Post 401522 by turqoisedude) I tried e-mailing but the posting is too old and I get a return e-mail. Hey rollermatic, does Mark have any contact info, I couldn't find it on the site. Maybe I am missing something. I wuuld definitely like to purchase a couple parts and backup parts in case. I want to see this washer run a lifetime :) | ||
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Post# 402263 , Reply# 45 12/27/2009 at 20:11 (5,232 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey) |
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| Post# 402307 , Reply# 47 12/28/2009 at 06:17 (5,232 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
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i talked to mark
2 days ago about a clock motor for my flair stove and he says this guy still has some stuff and can "possibly get more" wherever that comes from. one thing about mark, he will not give out any info on who this guy is, obviously he doesn't want us dealing with the guy directly. i can understand that i guess, mark is trying to "sell" here and make some profit. but it is frustrating for me as i would love to talk to guy directly about some possible parts. oh well! i e mailed on that post from the guy in pittsburgh also assuming it was mark's contact but as yet have had no response. my e mail did not come back however. mark did tell me he has more bellows which is good for all us frigidaire collectors. i probably bought the last of his water seals as i bought 5 of them. i know he has timers for rollermatic models and has a motor for a 1-18. i myself am now looking for a small solonoid that attaches to the timer of my 65 custom imperial. it shifts the timer motor into a higher speed by using this solonoid and linkage, thus making parts of the cycle shorter. mine promply burnt up the other day when i was testing the cycles. oh well, i'm just glad the timer itself was not damaged in the fall from the truck last summer. but if anyone knows of a place to buy small solonoids please do tell! thanks | ||
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Post# 402321 , Reply# 48 12/28/2009 at 08:15 (5,231 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey) |
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Yes definitely, I would like to get my hands on some water and oil bellows, bearings, seals, etc. that are hard to find. I also noticed the terms inner and outer bellows. Does this refer to the bellows respectively? If Mark has any bellows, seals, or bearings, I would want to buy. You must of e-mailed the guy before the 26th in ? I was on the 27th and that's probably why my e-mail bounced. Thomas, I will definitely moved as quickly as possible to catch up. Could you post a few of the steps to how you got the cabinet apart and the agitator off or was that in the service manual. I did not have an opportunity to read yet. | ||
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Post# 402333 , Reply# 50 12/28/2009 at 09:15 (5,231 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Peter, what are you going to do with 5 water seals? you know... there's a very nice guy in Brazil that needs only one of those. Isn't that a good ocasion to be generous? LOL | ||
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Post# 402334 , Reply# 51 12/28/2009 at 09:16 (5,231 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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By the way Peter... please check your yahoo messenger. I tried to add you to my list. | ||
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Post# 402343 , Reply# 52 12/28/2009 at 09:38 (5,231 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey) |
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Post# 402347 , Reply# 53 12/28/2009 at 09:58 (5,231 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Brian, is your email address valid? I tried to add you and send relevant information, but it didn't work. | ||
| Post# 402355 , Reply# 54 12/28/2009 at 10:45 (5,231 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Beware the bellows, fellows
Thanks Tom You and Brian should know that the oil bellows is a fine little guy who pops off & on real nice, real easy, but the Water Girl is a real challenge. After dozens of failed attempts, I finally slicked up the lip on the hub in the tub with liquid dish soap, soaked the bellows in hot water, slicked her bottom coil with soap, and slipped the O ring up in the coils. It's easier to slide it down than to pull it up. Finally--ON-- but not after biting the hair off my wrist. OOWWWWWW ;'D If I had known about using the C wrench, this baby would have been fixed sooner. Be glad to know about it. That way you won't have to wait to find or borrow the very rare bellows wrenches. If you haven't learned patience yet, Unimatic repair is the best teacher. | ||
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Post# 402356 , Reply# 55 12/28/2009 at 10:49 (5,231 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey) |
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E-Mail is legit | ||
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Post# 402384 , Reply# 56 12/28/2009 at 11:57 (5,231 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Windows Live Messenger. | ||
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Post# 402389 , Reply# 58 12/28/2009 at 12:17 (5,231 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey) |
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Post# 402398 , Reply# 59 12/28/2009 at 13:09 (5,231 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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so try to add my email... | ||
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Post# 402508 , Reply# 60 12/28/2009 at 22:25 (5,231 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey) |
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Try now | ||
| Post# 402516 , Reply# 61 12/28/2009 at 23:19 (5,231 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
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i just saw your question about the water seals
i bought 5 of them because i have 6 rollermatics, 5 are functional machines (or will soon be) and the last one has a completelty destroyed tub so it will be a parts machine. so i bought 5 for the five i intend to run. i'm sorry i cannot let one go at this time. your's might be fine, they don't take a lot of abuse like a perforated tub washer seal would. i mean they are never really completely immersed in water as when the washer spins and throws it's water the water level never rises to the height of the tub seal. at least not in a rollermatic and i would assume the same for a unimatic from what i have seen of them so far in the tech manual on them. personally i would concentrate on getting a water and oil bellows, that you def will need! | ||
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Post# 402532 , Reply# 62 12/29/2009 at 04:45 (5,231 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Thanks Peter! Don't worry, I was just kidding. Mine is very worn, there are some "bubbles" on it's surface but it still usable and of course I won't touch it. | ||
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