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1960's very early 70's Indesit Front load FOUND U.K

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Post# 408177 1/21/2010 at 19:18 (5,201 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes Hi, I was hunting round a scrapyard today and found an indesit,I think it dates to late 60's very early seventies, Im not sure what model it is but I will try to describe it : It has controls on the top , soap tray top loading to the left, two flat chrome dials on right one bigger than the other, Blue plastic background ,Blue door with small round panel just below this,possibly filter/pump access? blue silver and red badge on the front with Indesit made in italy on the front right, I know the door seal is knackered but looks fairly intact, is this any use to anyone, Can you still get the parts???? It is located just outside of Hull East Yorkshire.

Post# 408199 , Reply# 1 1/21/2010 at 20:04 (5,201 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *sounds like a L5* google it in the searchalator (scroll down forum homepage) Anyway I've found an interesting vid of the K5 where the sudsaver is well displayed I'm afraid it's hard to find spare parts of Indesit appliances from the pre-Merloni age (they were competitors). For sure Merloni would rather keep vintage Ariston (merloni's own original badge) spares vid source : CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK

Post# 408268 , Reply# 2 1/22/2010 at 00:46 (5,201 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Please, this must NOT get lost* It certainly sounds like an L5 to me too. The L5 was still around in the mid 70s (to my certain knowledge 1975) and this colour scheme sounds like what I remember from then. You only have to have a quick look at the wonderful restorations that appear here to know that this machine could join their proud ranks Al

Post# 408271 , Reply# 3 1/22/2010 at 01:48 (5,201 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)
Checkrate/Likes *Deemed to be of so much importance....* ....that I am posting this at work! Try your hardest to get this machine Dom! I agree with Al, in that it sounds like a version of the Indesit L5. Go go go get it! Paul

Post# 408274 , Reply# 4 1/22/2010 at 01:58 (5,201 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)
Checkrate/Likes *Actually it could be a K5!* Were the controls at the back of the machine or across the top at the front? The former would be a K5, whilst the latter would be an L5! Either way, you should tryn your best to rescue it. No pressure! lol. Let us know how it goes. Paul

Post# 408285 , Reply# 5 1/22/2010 at 05:42 (5,200 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes Sounds like an L5 indeed. A great uncle of mine had one. There were several models, his was the basic one with besides the two dials as you described there was one switch for on and off. The more Deluxe models had three switches, I think one was for a Bio prewash or so.

Post# 408309 , Reply# 6 1/22/2010 at 08:11 (5,200 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes Hi, I will venture up there tomorrow and get some pictures of it, It doesnt look like a L5 it looks older, MATCHBOXPAUL the controls are chrome and are on the top towards the front on the right. Unfortunately I do not have the room for it, However I would rescue it for a fellow member if they wanted it. The paintwork looks really good for its age, all the transferrs are good and not rubbed away, the badge is good and only needs a wipe, and the machine looks complete,minus a knackered door seal. Its literally on top of a scrap heap and will be destined for the crusher in the next week or so, so if you folks want it contact me and I will get it for you. I have a van so it wont be a problem.I would be happy to hold onto it for a few weeks if you have to arrange pickup, but only if you DEFINATELY want it!

Post# 408313 , Reply# 7 1/22/2010 at 08:26 (5,200 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)
Checkrate/Likes How do Dom. Below is a picture of an L5, that belongs to another collector. Is your find anything similar at all? Piccies would be great, so that condition can be assessed as well as any damage done to it. If in sound condition would be interested, although a journey to the top of a scrap pile cant have been good for it. Keep us updated with progress and thanks for your efforts. Two family members of mine had L5's - a cousin in some flats and an aunt and uncle who owned a big garden centre, within spitting distance of where all mine and rob's machines live today. Theres lived concealed in a kitchen cupboard, about fve units down from a Hoover Auto jet dishwasher. Cant wait to see what it looks like! Cheers Paul

Post# 408320 , Reply# 8 1/22/2010 at 08:37 (5,200 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *What Is It..!!!* Welcome to the club Dom, looks like you have a good collecting ground near you, well done!!! Is it this model L5?? sounds like it could be..!!! Mike

Post# 408321 , Reply# 9 1/22/2010 at 08:38 (5,200 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Lol* are you quiet at work again!!!...LOl

Post# 408322 , Reply# 10 1/22/2010 at 08:39 (5,200 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes Hmm ...Looks similar Paul but the soapbox has a white plastic lid and has an blue embossed badge on the white enamel front of the machine on the right about 3inch down from the top,the chrome knobs look abit more fancy and I seem to remember the left hand knob having MIN MAX settings,It was difficult to see too much as I had to contend with slippery metal and modern machines launching themselves at me,my mate got trapped by a hotpoint twin-tub that ran into him!.No Paul, it doesnt look too bad, someone with basic cosmetic restoration skills could bring this up lovely,I can manage to grab it with a pal of mine its about 8ft up, I thought It might be of some importance to you lot!

Post# 408323 , Reply# 11 1/22/2010 at 08:42 (5,200 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes Yes, that is the basic model alright. The smaller dial is for the temperature, but IIRC it doesn't have temperatures on the scale but I seem to remember there were settings with one, two and three dots on it, like on an iron. Not sure though, it has been ages ago since I last saw one. I always loved the light blue trim!

Post# 408324 , Reply# 12 1/22/2010 at 08:46 (5,200 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)
Checkrate/Likes Isnt that freaky weird eh Mike. Both posting the same picture at pretty much the same time! Am working from home this afternoon, but taking a break for a bit and doing something fun for a change. Dom It really does sound like you have stumbled across a version of the L5 - they did do a few, but i think the UK only ever received one main version, that was stylistically tinkered with over the years. Oh bloody hell - the one below the one? A very early version! With scrapyards being difficult places to deal with, i dont hold out much hope in you being able to acquire it. Fingers crossed that you succeed. Paul

Post# 408343 , Reply# 13 1/22/2010 at 10:13 (5,200 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Who cares!* Just get it! Heavens I would almost drive all the way up from London just to save it from the crusher. And surely there are enough Italians on here to help with the seal. Just remember the great job Gorenje (sorry if I have spelt it wrong) showed us a couple of weeks ago - if ever a machine seemed destinied for landfill it was that one, this does not sound as bad as it looked before they got their clever hands on it. Can you see I am excited! I must get out more! Who has the L5 then? I think I am so keen on it because the styling reminds me of the Hotpoint 1600 - you can keep your 70s and 80s Hotpoints - thats the one for me! Al

Post# 408346 , Reply# 14 1/22/2010 at 10:31 (5,200 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)
Checkrate/Likes *Dont know whether its a sign!* Last weekend I held an Indesit L5, L6, L7 and L8 door seal. Silly me - i left it behind. Might have to have a trip out again. Paul p.s Dom - do be careful! It really does sound rather precarious. Dont get into trouble!

Post# 408405 , Reply# 15 1/22/2010 at 13:36 (5,200 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)
Checkrate/Likes I remember a neighbour had an L5 just like you described with the blue trim. The L5 is mt all time favourite machine, if I had the space I would take it in a heart beat.

Post# 408434 , Reply# 16 1/22/2010 at 14:42 (5,200 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes MATCHBOX PAUL !! YES THATS IT!! Thats the one in the picture, I can acquire it , I buy allsorts off him all the time.I bought a complete Hoover Electron 1100 off him. If I got it would anyone swap or part exchange it for a Hotpoint 18680 or a Hotpoint liberator..????

Post# 408445 , Reply# 17 1/22/2010 at 15:09 (5,200 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes Pardon my ignorance but Im only just getting into washing machines..but..is this an L5 model then or is it a different varient?..Whatever it is I think I should go rescue it first thing in the morning..I HATE to see vintage gear, washing machines or otherwise being thrown away, my house is full of vintage gear I have taken on and painstakingly restored, Its a real timewarp my house even down to the wallpaper ! Thanks for the encoragement everyone and for helping Identify this apparently rare-as-hens-teeth model. Does ANY L5 door seal fit or not ... I dont want to get lumbered with something I cant get spares for..

Post# 408711 , Reply# 18 1/23/2010 at 13:08 (5,199 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes *Indesit L5* Hi Everyone, I got it!,for �10 It was a bit of a struggle to get it off the heap but I think it was worth it , alittle rusty round the edges but I am happy to re-spray it, Has anyone got any user information or service manuals on this model? I was talking to the guy in the scrappy and he recons he has loads of old machines in an outbuilding he hasnt been in for years!hes going to find the key, So watch this space folks I may be able to put some your way!. The guys at this family run scrapyard are really friendly ,you can spend all day everyday there ..if you have the time!

Post# 408714 , Reply# 19 1/23/2010 at 13:13 (5,199 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes *Indesit L5* Here it is in the scrapyard right way up, not too bad condition, its mainly dirt and grime.

Post# 408716 , Reply# 20 1/23/2010 at 13:21 (5,199 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes *Yay!* Glad you got it! It's exactly the same model as my great uncle had.

Post# 408734 , Reply# 21 1/23/2010 at 15:35 (5,199 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Oh WELL DONE!* I am SO pleased to hear that you have been able to rescue it and I hope you find that its only the door boot thats the problem - and I sincerely hope that one of those will be forthcoming. The thing I will mention is that these had a slow spin (around 400rpm) so Mrs gpo746 might not be too happy about it - or with having to spin the clothes is a separate spin drier - you may need to get a modern machine to be your "daily driver" as we say. I look forward to seeing more pics when you get it cleaned up - and thanks again for rescueing it Al

Post# 408748 , Reply# 22 1/23/2010 at 16:23 (5,199 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Door Gasket?????* This will sort ya :) Seamus CLICK HERE TO GO TO seamusuk's LINK

Post# 408786 , Reply# 23 1/23/2010 at 18:33 (5,199 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes Thanks for your support everyone,it's much appreciated, Yes I do believe the spin cycle is rather slow, I cant figure the pump out as it is a permanant drive off the back of the motor?Does it re-circulate the water during the wash then somehow switch to an outlet at the end of the spin? I have only had a quick look in the scrapyard when it was ontop of the heap.Can someone enlighten me! Has anyone got internal pictures so I can see the full layout as this one appears to be all there but its off its suspension and the pipe off the pump is missing, BTW The door seal looks only to have come loose I thought it was no good but I think it will be ok to test it on. I still would like to hear from anyone who has a manual,I am more than willing to pay for a photocopy or whatever.THANKS

Post# 408802 , Reply# 24 1/23/2010 at 19:24 (5,199 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *no recirculation* wash speed is not enough for this particular make of drain pump to work. Drain pumps on washers are centrifugal pumps (low speed = low centrifugal force, not enough to reach the required prevalence). Indeed this machine can't have a neutral (meaning no-spin) drain. CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK

Post# 409070 , Reply# 25 1/24/2010 at 14:37 (5,198 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)
Checkrate/Likes *Hiya Dom* Been away for a few days and come back to this! Am over the moon that you have managed to rescue to old girl - bet it was a faff and a half to get it down from the pile. Do you know how long it had been there for? It doesnt look too bad and appear to have visually stood up very well, for all the trauma that it has been through. I have never seen this blue version L5 before, so its a totally new one on me. Both the L5's in my family had black facia surrounds with chrome powder chute cover, dials and facia. As Seamus has linked to, door seals do appear to be still available. It appears that Indesit used the same seals on their L6, L7 and L8 machine. Despite them all being long long obsolete machines, the fact that one seal covers them all has probably ensured that they are still in production. If you do have issues finding one then, time permitting, me and Rob would be willing to venture back to the stall and acquire the one I held in my hands two weekends ago. Rather hectic at the moment, so it would be when we could squeeze a trip in. Like Al says, they are slllllloooooooooooowwwwwwwwww spinning machines - 380rpm if I remember (will have to have a gander at a Which magazine to confirm). So having a backup spin dryer would be essential. Am really pleased that you have decided to take on the machine yourself. What a great vintage machine to start a collection with. Word of warning - the bug bites hard and before you know it, unless you are careful, you can have them coming out of your ears! I am afraid that service and general history of Indesit machines is definately not my strong point, so I am unable to help with mechanical queries, but there are a number of videos of preserved L5's on Youtube. Maybe you could contact one of those machines owners and, language barriers permitting, maybe they could offer you some advice. Just type 'Indesit L5' and you will get some vids that show the wonderful spin draining of these machines. Do keep us updated on this great machine - brilliant that you succeeded in getting it and fingers crossed for further success at the scrapyard. Paul p.s what are the words to the left of the 'INDESIT' name on the badge and what is the model number of your particular version?

Post# 409177 , Reply# 26 1/24/2010 at 19:47 (5,198 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes *Indesit L5* Hiya Paul, The words on the badge script are 'Super Automatic' , it says the same thing on the soapbox lid with the Indesit logo, both are raised / embossed . I have had a look inside and it looks intact minus the pump 'bubble' pipe, these are readily available , the door seals , timers,pipes and spider and bearings are readily available brand new,(Thanks Seamus for the link ! ).Im a little dissapointed that it only has a 380rpm spin LOL ! Nevermind... The missus still wants me to get a Hotpoint 18680 or Liberator! . I will take my time doing the L5 up, I want to wait till the good weather before I can strip her down and re-spray the chassis and buff up all the plastics, I think it would be a good Idea to record the process step by step with plenty of internal photos to help guide anyone else interested in a L5 restoration, Im not quite sure about its exact model number/type Paul, as unfortunatley the back cover is missing :o( , It doesnt matter because I can make one for now. Its such a simple arrangement inside I think it shouldnt take too long to restore, one thing I am alittle dubious about is the temperature sensor which appears to be like a cooker pressure capilliary type, where the hell do you get a replacement? Im had a pal of mine down tonight and he reckons Im crackers!...I dont care! LOL.

Post# 409251 , Reply# 27 1/25/2010 at 07:44 (5,197 days old) by dj-gabriele ()
Checkrate/Likes *It only has a 1,5 kW heater!* Have you seen the video? Now, that machine boilwashes... and used way more water than current ones, one wonders why modern American machines aren't capable of that!

Post# 409256 , Reply# 28 1/25/2010 at 08:13 (5,197 days old) by 74simon ()
Checkrate/Likes *Hey Dom,* What a great first find! Looks like it has survived amazingly well, and I suspect Indesits of this vintage are way rarer than British machines. Although it's a slow spin, I wonder if that helped keep the machine going? I'd have thought the bearings etc would get less wear than in a faster machine. Incidentally, in the late 70s my mum had a slow spinning Colston automatic, with a separate Creda spinner to get the wash as dry as possible, quite common back then! Hope you get to find out what he has in his shed, you never know, you could earn him a few quid and make some collectors very happy! Your collection sounds great, you must have the patience of a saint with two seventies British colour tellies! Respect is due!

Post# 409267 , Reply# 29 1/25/2010 at 09:28 (5,197 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes *Reply to 74simon* Yeah, his scrapyard is a real timewarp, he has car parts stuffed literally upto the rafters from the 30's to the 70's , I got a deal going with him where I buy it by the boxload, he knows I flog it on, He has piles of cast iron fireplaces,grates, ect, The owner id=s 80 years old and acts like he was 17..fit as a fiddle, his younger brother is about late 50's . They have lockups that they havent been in for years, I have to climb a massive scrapheap to get to the old sales warehouse (where most of the car parts are) and climb through a window, I have to do this because he hasn't been in there for 20 odd years and cant find the key plus theres a huge pile of scrap nearly burying the place. I think I might know where this building is...its under another pile of scrap! . They moved a pile of scrap that had been there for 20 years and found loads of old car parts, There were 5 Rover P6 boot lids (all alloy) Morris marina axle and a complete Morris minor that had sunk to its belly, it had only 32,000 miles on the clock, the engine turned freely with the starting handle, and after an afternoon cleaning the fuel line , tank, pump, oil change, and filter cleaned the plugs and points it fired up second turn of the key....so I bought it! As for the vintage tellys I had alot of teething problems like,the mains transformer it literally went CRACK then started a fire, luckily I jumped up and blew it out, damage was limited to the transformer...lucky I had 2 spare ones! I pissed myself laughing one night when the picture 'fell' its like a full size picture , like a picture on the wall that slips to one side, turned out to be loose coils on the tube. My Hi-Fi is all valve and sounds superb, I have rebuilt it all and made a special power supply for the Leak preamp (185v HT DC + 6.3v LT DC) I enjoy overcoming problems, and keeping all this vintage gear going..its almost a full time job in itself. Im rather looking forward to doing the Indesit L5 up, I was in a local domestics shop this morning getting an interlock for a Creda and I told the old bloke about it, he informed me he had som L5,6,7 stuff but threw it about a year ago..Not good!

Post# 409269 , Reply# 30 1/25/2010 at 09:42 (5,197 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)
Checkrate/Likes What an amazing machine.....I have never seen an L5 like that. The ones I have seen all had two dials and 3 switches. My Aunt had the L5 shown in Ricado's pic. A neighbour had a L5 that had navy blue trim and another neighbour had one with a woodgrain effect on the control panel. You are very lucky to fine one is such good condition as Indesits did tend to rust quite badly. I am sure you are going to have great fun with it. Paul.

Post# 409275 , Reply# 31 1/25/2010 at 10:10 (5,197 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes Im sure I will have fun with it Paul! I hope that massive capacitor in the back doesnt go B..A..N..G, I will have to rig up my variac and isolation transformer and wind the voltage up slowly, I will, or should get 5 seconds notice of inpending doom, usually a creaking or an ascending 'click' from a bad capacitor, I really dont know where the hell I would get one of those from, its an oval one about 5 times bigger than modern ones with big nuts on to screw the wires down onto it. I would probably find one in a telephone exchange or railway junction box,No I wont nick one I will get a friend to'acuire' one from British rail :o).

Post# 409367 , Reply# 32 1/25/2010 at 16:36 (5,197 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)
Checkrate/Likes *done a bit of digging in the old Which magazines!* Hi Dom. Al was spot on with his spin speed. Its a 400rpm machine rather than 380, that I thought it was. Also have found out that your machine is an Indesit L5EGB Export, which were reported on in the January 1972 edition of Which, mentioned in 1973, reported on in November 1974, February 1976, September 1976 and was discontinued by Indesit at the start of 1977. The images that appear in the write ups are all line drawings, as opposed to photographs, but clearly show two dials and only one option button. The other L5 version was the L5LGB Bio, which boasted more programmes and three switches. I honestly cannot wait to start reading your restoration progress. I am really looking forward to learning more about this unusual machine. As Simon mentions, for the true early to mid 1970s front loading automatic washday experience, you would need a spin dryer on hand. There were still a large number of front loaders on sale with low spin speed performance, so extra spinning definately wouldnt have been unusual. The fastest spinning front loader was the Hotpoint 1600, later the 1830, galloping along at 1100rpm, with most average and high end range machines cantering at 750rpm and low end machines trotting along at 380 to 520rpm. The Hotpoint machine was a weird exception to the general rule and god only knows what Hotpoint were thinking when they introduced it in 1969, as nothing generally affordable would spin as fast until 1978 with the introduction of the Hoover 1100 'New Magics'. Cant get over the pile of scrap that your machine was perched on. Had you noticed it before or was it a new arrival in the yard? i every now and then browse through Classic Car magazine and see the photos of small, private owner breakers yards with cars in them that are more put out to pasture (another Equestrian term there - I am on a roll!) than actively scrapped. Sounds like you have got yourself one of those, rather than the normal 'drag it in', 'crush it' and 'flog it' yards. A really great find! Paul

Post# 409371 , Reply# 33 1/25/2010 at 17:05 (5,197 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes Hi Paul, I have no Idea how long this machine has been there , it wouldnt suprise me if it had been there 10 years or so, I dont think it has as it is low on corrosion, its mainly around the front access panel, I have never seen it before but they usually keep washers in the front of the yard for a few months before they eventually work their way to the end of the yard. The machines gradually get butchered as they work their way down to the end of the yard,slowly yielding their useful parts, by the time they run the carepillar thing over them they are barely a shell. Im amazed myself why it ended up 8 ft up with no dents ect. It was slap bang in the middle of a pile of machines. The photo shows it after we cleared the logics and knackered 95s out of the way.I only went up there on the off chance that there would be an oldie , It paid off allright! Its a very good yard, I sometimes go there just to look at old stuff...I invariably bring some stuff home. You wouldn't believe what they get there. I cant wait to see what machines he has in the lock-up. When something stops selling he just locks it up and moves on to the next thing. If I could put my house slap bang in the middle of their place..I WOULD! , I would never be short of anything, Thanks for the information on the L5EGB, I thought it was around 1969/70 I wasn't far off!. The 'Option' switch you mention has two 'Options'.... On or Off LOL! This looks to be a base model unlike the fancy ones with bio switches and chrome soapbox lids. Overall..the same machine!.

Post# 409555 , Reply# 34 1/26/2010 at 03:40 (5,197 days old) by riccardol5 ()
Checkrate/Likes Hi! This is an Indesit L5 E (europa). Without Bio and soft spin button. The L5 L (luxe) was cheap, but the L5 E was cheaper!!! Have a nice work :-)

Post# 409661 , Reply# 35 1/26/2010 at 11:54 (5,196 days old) by gpo746 (Hull)
Checkrate/Likes Hi Riccardo, Thanks for posting these details up, I know which setting to put the washer on now! , Do you have any service data, or an engineers manual? Thanks!

Post# 409686 , Reply# 36 1/26/2010 at 13:59 (5,196 days old) by electron1100 (England)
Checkrate/Likes *Restoring* Dom you are a bloke like myself.........restoring and making good..........Brilliant find, these are wonderful machines and your one looks to be in good condition, you should have no problems working out how it goes etc..... Bit of a valve amp fan myself :-) Gary

Post# 409698 , Reply# 37 1/26/2010 at 14:24 (5,196 days old) by electron1100 (England)
Checkrate/Likes *My thoughts exactly* "Favorite Modern Brand: Absolutley None, I Hate sterile modern plastic junk LOL!!" I second that!

Post# 409706 , Reply# 38 1/26/2010 at 15:03 (5,196 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes Riccardo, thanks for sharing. As I posted before the temperature settings goes by dots like on irons. I knew that! As I said, it is the BOL model, the one my great uncle had. Brings back wonderful memories!

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