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Initial thoughts on Whirlpool Duet WFW9150WW
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Post# 410179   1/28/2010 at 09:01 (5,173 days old) by aaronfitzy (Pennsylvania)        

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So I've run a few loads of wash through this now and it seems to do a pretty good job. The controls are pretty straight forward and easy to use, though the cycle select knob is on the cheap side. Pretty good wash action. This one has a spin speed of 1200 RPM's when on High. It can take a few times for it to figure out if its balanced or not and can extend the total wash time up to 15 minutes I've noticed. But once this thing ramps up...its smooth sailing! Luckily its placed on a concrete floor so noise/vibrating are not an issue. The end of cycle signal isn't a very pleasing nor loud sound, but its there. I'm yet to use the "TumbleFresh" option, but the purpose of it seems like a good one. Its no Miele by any means, but if I can get at least 5 trouble free years out this washer, I'll be happy.

Aaron





Post# 410327 , Reply# 1   1/28/2010 at 18:06 (5,172 days old) by favorit ()        
OOB routines or actually graduated spins?

Have read so many times about OOB issues in big US frontloaders .... I wonder if these are true OOB problems all the times

US toploaders just spin without any pause, but also many FL has ever done that way. Graduated spin came out in german washers in early seventies . The very first time my mother saw her new washer during the graduated spin, she thought it was broken, cause her previous FL just spun in one shot

The Duets do have a final graduated spin, maybe average users don't know what is that and just assume their machines quit spinning because of a balance issue ?


Post# 410337 , Reply# 2   1/28/2010 at 18:26 (5,172 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Aaron, glad you're so pleased with the machine. Glad it's worknig out. HOw far away is the water heater from the washer connections?

Post# 410381 , Reply# 3   1/28/2010 at 19:51 (5,172 days old) by aaronfitzy (Pennsylvania)        
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Yes, the washer does gradually go up to its top spin speed, it seems that if it were to just take off to its top speed it would balance out just fine, but I'm sure the bearings would be gone in no time. And my water heater is about 3 ft. from the washer and total hot water pipe length to the washer is about 7 ft. Why do you ask?

Aaron


Post# 410411 , Reply# 4   1/28/2010 at 21:12 (5,172 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The reason why I asked about where the water heater was is just how long it takes before hot water actually reaches the machine. I purge the neighboring line that feeds off for the washer and then the kitchen sink in the next room to get hot water faster to my washer because my heater is in the garage and it's probably a good 15 to 25 feet.

Post# 410414 , Reply# 5   1/28/2010 at 21:22 (5,172 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Does the Duet washer you have have the skincare rinse or max rinse?

Post# 410417 , Reply# 6   1/28/2010 at 21:29 (5,172 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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No skincare rinse mark, just an ordinary (but very good) type oextra rinse.

Post# 410481 , Reply# 7   1/29/2010 at 00:54 (5,172 days old) by aaronfitzy (Pennsylvania)        
yes...

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As mentioned above, the Duet does have the Extra Rinse option. But honestly, this washer does pretty good on just one rinse.


Aaron


Post# 410649 , Reply# 8   1/29/2010 at 17:04 (5,171 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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not with my duet me i need to set the extra rinse option or i get suds at the end of the cycle everytime and my model number is 9150 as well when it breaks i will replace it with a topload washer

Post# 410696 , Reply# 9   1/29/2010 at 18:09 (5,171 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I do agree with Malcolm

Even though these HUGE front loaders can hold A LOT of clothing, I think it's better not to pack them but load them modestly. I think things get much cleaner and better rinsed. So say you load the washer, and by the time things are tamped down and completely saturated, I like to see the drum half full or a fraction less than half full. Much more room to lift, drop and tumble instead of clothes rolling around on each other. I could be wrong though, that's just the way I do it.


Post# 410893 , Reply# 10   1/30/2010 at 12:21 (5,171 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The situation I ran into with my Duet was that after the drain, the machine would balance enough to go into spin and ramp up, but the water that was extracted would spin between the basket and outer tub, tripping the flood pressure switch which made the washer stop spinning while the pump took care of the water. With the wide ball valve sump area, the hose from the outer tub to the pump protector and all of that in front of the pump, there is a lot of area before the pump that is filled with air after the tub drains so the pump cannot simply suck the water out but has to deal with the water displacing the air above the pump before the pump can deal with the water. I wonder if some manufacturer should experiment with the machine going into distribution speed before the drain valve opens or the pump starts.

While not foolproof, my Creda does something superior to what the Duet does. When it balances and briefly ramps up to spin, a lot of water is spun out of the load. The machine slows the spin, but the drum continues to revolve fast enough to hold the load against the drum while the water drains away. Once the water is pumped out, the spin resumes. The spins between the rinses are not high speed spins, but it uses this same procedure before going into the final 1000 rpm spin. The machine only has to balance once for each spin period. This would be an even bigger pay off for larger drum machines because they often have a more difficult time balancing.

This is enirely different from the design of the Bendix and Westinghouse front loaders made in the United States where the sump stayed filled with water just above the pump and the pump was more powerful so the pump could handle the surge of water as the spin began.

Invariably the successive attempts to spin in the Duet after the first one is aborted due to the surge of water had balance issues which delayed the spin periods.

ONE RINSE?! My Duet's Whitest Whites cycle gave three rinses which was one more than the Normal cycle gave.


Post# 410956 , Reply# 11   1/30/2010 at 16:13 (5,170 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Aaron

If you get a chance, can you turn your new Duet on the normal cycle and let it fill until it completely has it's max water fill, then pause, open the door, snap a picture. I would like to see if the newer Duet's use less water than my 5 year old one. I'm sure they do, but I'm just curious how much less.


Post# 410974 , Reply# 12   1/30/2010 at 17:35 (5,170 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
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Hello here is a picture of my suet washer on the normal cycle fill at the max level

Post# 410980 , Reply# 13   1/30/2010 at 17:58 (5,170 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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i just notice my mistake i mean my duet washer


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