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Post# 411349   1/31/2010 at 17:47 (5,197 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)        

Hi All,
Have one of these babies on display and operational where I work.
Always been a huge fan of the Miele machines (have a W3933 and T8633 at home) but these are pretty impressive.
Expect to sell quite a few of them, if anyone is interested in a demo please let me know.
David.





Post# 411364 , Reply# 1   1/31/2010 at 18:19 (5,197 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Zug Adora

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Hi David and welcome to AW lots to see & discuss here, I take it you work at Elite Appliances then??

They certainly are impressive machines, have been putting the pair through their paces here in the UK, a very robust machine with lots of programme options....the heat pump dryer certainly save the electric meter spinning around....which is great considering whats been spent on gas over this cold snap!!!

Looking forward to hearing what you think about them!!!


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Post# 411377 , Reply# 2   1/31/2010 at 18:27 (5,197 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)        
Zug

Indeed that is where I am found!
Seem to be a good machine, well built, larger capacity than the Miele and just something "different".

One of the guys here found the demo mode the other day, so it no longer starts running automatically after 20 seconds now. Much easier to demonstrate!

On a side note, glad I found this forum, been spending hours trolling through the posts (much to my partner's horror - he thinks I already spend too much time thinking about appliances!)


Post# 411590 , Reply# 3   2/1/2010 at 03:30 (5,197 days old) by rudin1969 (Italy)        

One Adora SLQ's found its way to Italy too :)
By the way, a newer 2010 Adora SLQ is now available -- they've added a 20C wash button and tweaked with water/energy consumption


Post# 411594 , Reply# 4   2/1/2010 at 05:38 (5,197 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
David.....

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I think I'd almost kill to get my hands on a VZug...

Hit me with it...How much are they?


Post# 411764 , Reply# 5   2/1/2010 at 15:52 (5,196 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)        
V-Zug price

$4,290.
Pitched against TOL Miele at $3,799.


Post# 411781 , Reply# 6   2/1/2010 at 16:47 (5,196 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
*THUMP*

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Sorry, I just passed out......and hit the floor

Post# 411785 , Reply# 7   2/1/2010 at 17:16 (5,196 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Wow...!!!

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So did I...!!!! I checked one converter and thought it was wrong, so checked a couple more,!!! conversion works out to £2,383 UK pounds...selling here for £1,500

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Post# 411795 , Reply# 8   2/1/2010 at 17:41 (5,196 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Thats a pretty high price, particularily when you can pick up the TOL Miele as ex display models for $2500.

How much are the dishwashers? :)


Post# 411815 , Reply# 9   2/1/2010 at 18:32 (5,196 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)        
Price

We don't set the price.......... I would expect pricing could be adjusted over time. But the overheads per unit are massive compared to Miele. Have a look at luxury cars here and do a currency conversion!!
Dishwashers are just under $3k.

So Chris, when would you like yours delivered and how will you be paying? ;)
d.


Post# 411816 , Reply# 10   2/1/2010 at 18:37 (5,196 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)        

Miele ex-display is normally RRP less 20%. So TOL would still be over $3k. Personally I like my stuff to be untouched, especially as they are as demos on a retail floor. Plumbed in usually and not treated well!

Post# 411826 , Reply# 11   2/1/2010 at 19:10 (5,196 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

I've bought 2 Miele's as ex display and never had any issue. I paid $2500 for a W2888 with stacking kit and $2850 without.

The first one is now coming up to almost 3 years old. I have never had a mechanical issue with the ex display stuff.

High end Miele is very overpriced for what it is, I would never pay RRP for that stuff. The Mid range stuff I think is good value for money.

The best Miele washer I've bought, is the W2515, it cost about $2.5K is very flexible and just gets on with the job without any of the quirks that the more "Intelligent" models have. Its not as noisey as the W1511 but still is reasonabley priced.

Brand new would be nice, but to spend over $3K on a machine that doesnt offer much more than the $2.5K model I just cant come at.


Post# 411835 , Reply# 12   2/1/2010 at 19:59 (5,196 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
David...

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....Whilst I would love one RIGHT NOW....it would mean sure divorce if I spent that much money....

Me thinks I shall wait until the price falls considerably...which it probably will, before taking that particular plunge


Post# 411838 , Reply# 13   2/1/2010 at 20:02 (5,196 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)        

ahh well the W2888 3 years ago was significantly less that the $3,799 for the W3985, so that would explain it!
I'll get the Zug when my 18 month old W3933 goes......... so in about 18 years I reckon. Any earlier and I will also be getting a divorce.


Post# 411984 , Reply# 14   2/2/2010 at 12:18 (5,196 days old) by mrwash ()        

This price beats my Navitronic but I enjoy the programs more than I would at the V-ZUG. But I love the balancing system. My Navitronic is a little bit "stupid" in that way. She spins like "Ok, lets get this party started, no matter if I'm unbalanced. We can reduce the spin speed anyway. Whooooo,here we go" *lol*

Post# 412680 , Reply# 15   2/4/2010 at 23:30 (5,193 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)        
Dryer

We now have the matching heat pump dryer to go with the washer.
:)


Post# 412681 , Reply# 16   2/4/2010 at 23:32 (5,193 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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Dare I ask the price?

Post# 412877 , Reply# 17   2/5/2010 at 17:52 (5,192 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)        
dryer price

$3,590
Has an awesome (and unique I believe) feature, can be linked to washer electronically and receive load information directly to determine how best to dry following on from the wash cycle. Cool!


Post# 413176 , Reply# 18   2/6/2010 at 17:19 (5,191 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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Maybe quite cool, but isn't that what internal sensors do in a Miele..?

...sense the load and dry it accordingly...

So, sorry to say that I will not be getting a Zug anytime soon....


Post# 413181 , Reply# 19   2/6/2010 at 18:03 (5,191 days old) by favorit ()        
Also the latest Whirpool Cabrio pair does

Hope that US made whirlies have better pc boards than their euro siblings, otherwise I predict sooo many "blue screens"
Also they haven't "ctrl+alt+del" to recover *LOL*

Chris, miele appliances don't "talk" to each other unless one purchases those domotic devices ka miele@home or con@ctivity.


Post# 413200 , Reply# 20   2/6/2010 at 18:42 (5,191 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
S'ok...

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....Favorit.

I was referring to each appliances individual sensors...that sense load and required times etc....


Post# 413232 , Reply# 21   2/6/2010 at 20:36 (5,191 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

$400 more than the Miele Heat Pump, that seems like a fair bit even in that segment of the market.

Has anyone actually used a heat pump drier? For a whole host of reasons, I've never been pleased with my Miele condensor drier, These days I run it with the condensor removed as in our hot humid weather in Brisbane it could take 3 plus hours to dry a full load.

My understanding is that the Heat pump driers can operate at lower temps and still managed to condense?


Post# 413470 , Reply# 22   2/7/2010 at 15:55 (5,190 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)        
heat pump

i've heard mixed reports......... our Miele heat pump dryer here works ok. uses half the electricity of normal condensor model, so is "green" as a dryer can be.


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