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KD-14 KITCHENAID FROM PHILLY
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Post# 411926   2/2/2010 at 09:37 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        

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this was on e bay last fall with a starting price of $1.00 and no one else bid on it so i got it for a buck!

i did send the guy another 50 bucks for it as i felt it was worth more than a dollar! jim picked it up in philidelphia for me and delivered it last nite.

i love these old kitchenaids and have 2 kd-12's but don't have a kd-10 or kd-11 and this is my first kd-14. i wanted this one as it's the last model before they completely changed their design and introduced the hydrosweep with the kd-15 in 1964.

this is a gravity drain model like one of the kd-12's i have. i like the gravity drain models better. they seem simpler, in fact they are!

it was after dark when jim arrived so i just left it in the driveway til this morning. i had no idea what i was getting till i looked at it just now! i think it looks good so here are some pics for anyone interested in these beautiful old kitchenaids!





Post# 411927 , Reply# 1   2/2/2010 at 09:38 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
side view

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of it.

Post# 411930 , Reply# 2   2/2/2010 at 09:41 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
the back

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showing the drying unit air intake cover (in black).

Post# 411931 , Reply# 3   2/2/2010 at 09:43 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
this one had

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a lot of peices out of place. but everything is there at least.

Post# 411932 , Reply# 4   2/2/2010 at 09:46 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
tub and racks

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look good! racks are perfect actually!

Post# 411933 , Reply# 5   2/2/2010 at 09:46 (5,168 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

NICE machine! Congrats. I like my 14. The 14s were quite a step forward from the 12s.

Post# 411934 , Reply# 6   2/2/2010 at 09:48 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
i see they introduced

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a detergent cup with the 14 model. my kd-12's don't have it and there was no 13 model so this has to be the big new feature of the 14.

it's a funky lookin thing!


Post# 411935 , Reply# 7   2/2/2010 at 09:50 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
looks like it's

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seen better days. hopefully it will clean up and operate!

Post# 411937 , Reply# 8   2/2/2010 at 09:52 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
here's the sump area

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showing the stainless steel water filter that i think is so cool on these old machines!

Post# 411938 , Reply# 9   2/2/2010 at 09:55 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
pump is fine

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and this area should clean up well.
there is no rust there, it's all just dirt.


Post# 411939 , Reply# 10   2/2/2010 at 09:57 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
here's the control panel

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area. love the door lock handle on this model. a more modernized version of the kd-12.

Post# 411941 , Reply# 11   2/2/2010 at 09:59 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
here it is with

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the bottom panel on.

Post# 411942 , Reply# 12   2/2/2010 at 10:01 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
kitchenaid

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by hobart!

Post# 411943 , Reply# 13   2/2/2010 at 10:02 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
they added a start

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switch with this model too!

Post# 411948 , Reply# 14   2/2/2010 at 10:08 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
the biggest change i see

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with the 14 model is the timer! my kd-12's have a wash followed by 2 rinses and that's it!

the 14 models have a double wash and 3 after rinses! now that's a big difference! i'm gonna love using this one when i get it rebuilt.

in fact that's the reason for the detergent cup addition no doubt. previous models didn't need it.


Post# 411949 , Reply# 15   2/2/2010 at 10:13 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
this pic shows

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the motor and the gravity drain line. all looks good from here and i bet this one will need little work. i did order a new pump seal from hobart just in case. there are about 6 of em still out there in various locations across the country if anyone else needs one. just call your local hobart office. i have the part no. if anyone needs it.

Post# 411950 , Reply# 16   2/2/2010 at 10:16 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
lastly

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i see the spray arm is a bit different on the 14 models.

the water slit at the ends is in a L shape compared to the
spray arms on the earlier models, or at least the 12 series.


Post# 411951 , Reply# 17   2/2/2010 at 10:17 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
here is

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the comparison.

Post# 411954 , Reply# 18   2/2/2010 at 10:22 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
well that's it

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for the kd-14. i will bring it inside today but it will probably be awhile before i begin working on it. my rollermatics are ahead of it on the list to finish.

but i am looking forward to restoring this beautiful classic kitchenaid!

it will feel right at home here in my "appliance" room waiting patiently for it's chance to shine again! hopefully i will have it done by summertime!


Post# 411969 , Reply# 19   2/2/2010 at 10:58 (5,168 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

It really is amazing how many of these old KAids have survived. They really are built like "tanks". Thanks for sharing these photos of your new treasure.

I found a KD-12 in SS not too long ago. Cast-off in a junk yard, when I opened the door it was evident it had hardly been used and was complete with the owners manual!
Unfornunately the timer knob was broken from "moving trauma".
Anyone have a spare?


Post# 411972 , Reply# 20   2/2/2010 at 11:18 (5,168 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Nice save!

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And people say a dollar doesn't go very far these days... LOL
Looks like a great machine, Pete! I had a friend of a friend who had a dishwasher like this in her condo and said she didn't use it because the machine didn't drain like it did when it was installed in her house... Maybe I should try and track her down... LOL
Enjoy the new KDS14 - it will definitely shine again soon!!


Post# 412045 , Reply# 21   2/2/2010 at 18:26 (5,168 days old) by bobbins (Victoria, BC, Canada)        

Funny..this model was very similar to the model my uncle had....man I sit for hours listening it to run....

Bob


Post# 412071 , Reply# 22   2/2/2010 at 21:24 (5,168 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Ah Bobbins

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How's that UM 4 coming along ?????

Peter, What a shop you have and not to mention all those KitchenAids. Very nice.

I might be having a nice surprise for stevet when I go to Florida.


Post# 412082 , Reply# 23   2/2/2010 at 22:09 (5,168 days old) by bobbins (Victoria, BC, Canada)        

Hey Eddie...

I hit a snag with the rebuild...I managed to get working, but the drain solenoid and pump/motor gasket leaks :(

I have everything apart again...and found a new gasket in my collection and an used drain solenoid from my KD-12

I am thinking about converting this unit as a portable...hoping to find panels from a KDI-54P convertible or free standing KD-12 models....or I will have to find panels and make it work. I will also to jig a separate pump for the drain....I drain outlet is to high....maybe someone might have a KD-12P drain pump assembly?

Bob


Post# 412083 , Reply# 24   2/2/2010 at 22:14 (5,168 days old) by bobbins (Victoria, BC, Canada)        

oops - I wrote too fast...hit send before editing...tisk tisk..

My sewer drain outlet is too high. Gravity drain wont work in my house (off about 2") - cast piping in my wall. I will have to rig a separate drain pump or find another Kitchen Aid model with a drain pump attached to it.

I know these machines are smaller, and I am thinking building a portable cabinet/island that I can move around in my kitchen and attached it to the sink. Humm...trying to be creative....


Post# 412094 , Reply# 25   2/2/2010 at 22:52 (5,168 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
unfortunately i don't have a drain

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pump myself. only one of my kd-12's has a pump on it. i have a lot of kitchenaids but few parts for these older models. i don't have any timer knobs either, just the ones that are on my machines.

it would probably be easy to hook a drain pump on any of these. all you would need would be an external drain pump from any dishwasher or washer for that matter. you could easily reduce down off that cast iron drain outlet. i used a rubber boot and pvc bushings to reduce down to 1/2 pvc for my gravity drain model. i got all this at home depot. you would just have to wire the drain pump in thru a relay so when the solonoid kicks off and the drain valve itself opens the drain pump would turn on, a simple thing.

hopefully maybe someone here knows of a timer knob somewhere.
and i know most new dishwashers i have seen use an external seperate drain pump so that should be easy to obtain.
good luck!



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