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Waste King DW and other SS stuff in Bay Area
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Post# 412229   2/3/2010 at 13:30 (5,192 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Some nice stainless appliances that appear to be in excellent condition. I just got me a Thermador version of the dishwasher or I'd be jumping on the WK. Looks like this was (well, it still is) a TOL kitchen.

Any locals interested in any of this stuff?


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Post# 412278 , Reply# 1   2/3/2010 at 15:58 (5,192 days old) by austinado16 ()        

Real nice! That big hood would be fantastic over a 42" wide Wedgewood or O'kief stove.

Post# 412298 , Reply# 2   2/3/2010 at 18:12 (5,192 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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That range top & ovens are from the late 1950s early 19690s. Those are the same that were put in the kitchen of the sister of Ralph Wilson (hello Jetcone!!) here. Some friends of mine bought that house. That cooktop is very cool. I love the 4" burneer in the middle back row, works well with those very small saucepans. That Waste King is obviously a replacement dishwasher for whatever was the original dishwasher. I'm not sure whether the dishwahser has the pop-up "spritzer" for the top rack or the full-size spray arm under the top rack--with 4 buttons and one of them is the start button. The "timer" is also "concealed" behind a plastic lense and isn't accessible, very similar to our 1968 Waste King.

Post# 412309 , Reply# 3   2/3/2010 at 19:00 (5,192 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Yes, the WK is definitely older than my Thermador by quite a few years, but it looks well cared-for like the oven and cooktop. Perhaps (Bob, you will likely know) WK was the first make to offer stainless panels for household models, so they upgraded the dishwasher to match the cooktop and oven. Regardless, that WK was way ahead of its time.

Post# 412310 , Reply# 4   2/3/2010 at 19:12 (5,192 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ralph, KitchenAid had stainless or stainless-look dishwashers in the in the 1950s. I think Ben has or had one he found.

Post# 412311 , Reply# 5   2/3/2010 at 19:12 (5,192 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WASTEKING APPLIANCES

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The cooktop is from the 1980s thats when they added an indictor for each burner. Its an excellent cooktop the oven is late 1950s and is also a good performer. The DW is late 70s to mid 80s and is not a good daily driver not only do they work poorly they have poor durably and very few pts are still avabible. Look closely at the tank for rust issues as the tank isn't real SS and had a tendency to rust along seems and in the sump area.

Post# 412321 , Reply# 6   2/3/2010 at 19:43 (5,192 days old) by circlew (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

Hotpoint also had stainless (or brushed chrome) appliances in the mid 50's in their Customline series.

Post# 412322 , Reply# 7   2/3/2010 at 19:49 (5,192 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
KA Made:

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Both stainless and brushed chrome, so that customers could match other appliances made in either material. Most people don't realise it, but the two metals are different colours - stainless is brownish silver, and brushed chrome is more blue. It's when you see them side by side that you see the mismatch.

Post# 412380 , Reply# 8   2/4/2010 at 01:54 (5,191 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Hey John, yeah, I'm aware of the shortcomings around owning a vintage pre-Bosch WK/Thermador dishwasher, and picked this one up because it had no rust issues. The interior sides are all stainless, but the floor is a nickel-based material. Pix of the before and after process are forthcoming once my accomplice and I can connect to put a thread together. We're about a month into things and my Thermador has fully awakened and gotten its bearings, as it were, after what I suspect was a long dormant period, I have learned what it likes and it's doing a nice job of cleaning and drying. I intend to have fun with it occassionally taking advantage of the steam option, as well as enjoy admiring it until the machine decides to take itself out. Then I'll get the KDS22 I was looking for in the first place.

Post# 412470 , Reply# 9   2/4/2010 at 11:03 (5,191 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
STAINLESS WASTEKING

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Only the inner door panel is a good grade of SS try the magnet test on the tank and door. Enjoy the WK its a unique dishwasher I would surely rather have it in my daily kitchen before having a new Bosch or most any other new super quite DW. The new DWs with filters are too sealed against noise so they don't dry well and always get smelly inside, they tend to take 2 hours etc. Jason and I have had more than 15 new different brands and none them were as satisfactory as most 70s-90s machines.

Post# 412493 , Reply# 10   2/4/2010 at 12:12 (5,191 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I was looking for a KDS22 because a fellow member who had one advised they are super quiet, and noise has definitely been an issue. The Thermador is only a little more quiet than the '90 Maytag it replaced, but it's much more pleasing to look at. I'm enjoying the learning process about how these WK/Universal machines work and their unique design. While the plastic tub Maytag did a fine job, it was ugly to look at with white door panels but a yellowed plastic control panel, it didn't match all of the stainless appliances in the kitchen and I really didn't like having to leave a space for the pop-up tower in the lower rack. The Thermador is better in that regard, but it's still hard to beat the KA design where you can put anything anywhere in the lower rack and not have to accommodate a tower. However, the Thermador is the first dishwasher I've ever owned/used that routinely heats the water to 150+ degrees, and has a sanitizing cycle that kicks it up to 170+ degrees. I'm definitely having fun with it.

Post# 412642 , Reply# 11   2/4/2010 at 20:00 (5,191 days old) by hometechdoc ()        
KitchenAid Stainless Steel Dishwasher

We had a KitchenAid Hobart built Superba dishwasher in a house growing up. It had a full stainless tank and door liner of 18 guage stainless. The front was wood matched to cabinets. I am not good at the model numbers, but it was an Energy Saver III, the model with a third spray arm on top, but not delayed water heat except with sani-wash purchased around 1979 or 1980 I think it was a KDSS-19.

Post# 412669 , Reply# 12   2/4/2010 at 22:49 (5,191 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
but it was an Energy Saver III

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My KDS-19 is an Energy Saver 4 (just like the KDS-19 I grew up with for a short time), so I'm wondering if that machine was a KDS-18.


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