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Post# 412450   2/4/2010 at 09:58 (5,188 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        

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My Whirlpool DD bit it a couple of weeks back. It's a motor coupler which could have been easily replaced, but it's also starting to have neutral drain problems.

I was on the Home Depot site, and I found a deal on one of their Admiral machines. I managed to get it, and all the hardware for $348, free delivery.

I truly wanted a Speed Queen, but right now they're out of my budget. I think it will probably give me decent service like the last Whirlpool did.

So wish me luck....new appliance coming! :)





Post# 412460 , Reply# 1   2/4/2010 at 10:34 (5,188 days old) by rll70sman (Hastings, Minnesota)        

Mike, like you, I wanted a Speed Queen to replace my Whirlpool that had the same problems yours did. Unfortunately, it wasn't in my budget, either. However, I'm glad to hear you stuck with a Whirlpool product. The company's product line seems to be well made and a good value for the most part. It's an American company, employs lots of union-scale workers, and uses more American-made components than many of the other appliance manufacturers.

I considered an Admiral model when I bought the new Whirlpool at a local independent appliance dealer. The salesman stated it was the same washer in components and build quality as the Whirlpool, just with a different console. But, the Whirlpool was a closeout of last year's model so I bought it instead.

Treat your machine right, which I'm sure you will, and it should last a reasonable amount of time. Let me know how it works; I'd be interested in hearing about it. Thanks!

Rob


Post# 412466 , Reply# 2   2/4/2010 at 10:47 (5,188 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        

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Rob,

I think they are reasonably well made too, and I wanted to give my money to someone that provides jobs here as well.

I'm sure it won't be a surprise (so many machines are Whirlpool DD now). I'm interested in how dumbed down the water temperatures are, but I'm sure I can make it work.

I'll keep you posted.


Post# 412480 , Reply# 3   2/4/2010 at 11:32 (5,188 days old) by aaronfitzy (Pennsylvania)        
According to the label...

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According to the label on the inside of the door on my new FL Duet WFW9150WW it was made in Mexico! Does the Whirlpool company assemble any appliances in the U.S. anymore?

Aaron


Post# 412492 , Reply# 4   2/4/2010 at 12:10 (5,188 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        
I thought....

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....that Whirlpool assembled their appliances here, at least their T/L machines. I'll look when I get mine and report back.

Post# 412533 , Reply# 5   2/4/2010 at 13:24 (5,187 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
Does the Whirlpool company assemble any appliances in the U.

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My May-Pool front loader was assembled in Germany, but the dryer says Made in USA

Post# 412554 , Reply# 6   2/4/2010 at 14:13 (5,187 days old) by toploader1984 ()        

there are some dd top loaders and dryers made in usa but not for long, whirlpool annonced it is closing its plant in the usa and going to mexico.

Post# 412602 , Reply# 7   2/4/2010 at 17:13 (5,187 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        

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Well....I hope Alliance hangs in there then, because the next one I want to be a Speed Queen.

Post# 412649 , Reply# 8   2/4/2010 at 20:39 (5,187 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        
It's here....

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....and working on my 4th load of backed up laundry.

I have to admit, I like it as far as bare bones machines. It still has the Maytag Dependable Care era style dials, and reminds me of the old Fabricmatic machines on Gentle. The intermittent agitate and spin is something I haven't seen in a long while. Plus it has decent tub capacity, and 4 water levels along with all the basic cycles.


Of course, it's been adjusted to meet new government energy efficiency requirements. Hot is warm, warm is cool, cool is cold and cold is frigid.

Still, it's a nice basic machine, and it beats the laundromat or hand washing (or schlepping everything out to the workshop and running them thru icy cold water in the Maytag wringer). I like it better than my old Frigidaire top loader, if not as well as my old Filter Flo. Pretty decent deal considering it was less than $350 delivered and set up.

(Of course, now it's on sale for $259 LOL--oh well....it's still a good value)


Post# 412670 , Reply# 9   2/4/2010 at 22:58 (5,187 days old) by spookiness (Alexandria VA)        
yes $259

"(Of course, now it's on sale for $259 LOL--oh well....it's still a good value)"

I was just going to comment that you paid way to much. I got mine for $279+ a few months ago, and was in HD today and saw it was now $259.

I actually prefer the more stodgy and old fashioned appearance of the Roper control console (at Lowes), but the Admiral price is hard to beat.

p.s. I've been meaning to eventually post pics of mine, but maybe you'll beat me to it.


Post# 412686 , Reply# 10   2/4/2010 at 23:42 (5,187 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        
Post your pics please....

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....when my ex-partner left, he took the digital camera. It's going to be a while before I get another one.

Post# 412692 , Reply# 11   2/5/2010 at 00:38 (5,187 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Toploader1984, will that mean the end of the Wonderful 29" wide whirlpool dryer? If so, i will have to invest some of my tax return sooner than i planned. alr2903

Post# 412699 , Reply# 12   2/5/2010 at 01:17 (5,187 days old) by supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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I believe toploader is confusing a refrigerator plant in Evansville, Indiana, which is closing, with the washing machine plant in Clyde, Ohio and dryer plant in Marion, Ohio.

Here's a recent article.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO supersuds's LINK


Post# 412717 , Reply# 13   2/5/2010 at 05:04 (5,187 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Thank you, Supersuds. Like eveyone else i am trying to be thrifty, right now. alr2903

Post# 412746 , Reply# 14   2/5/2010 at 07:50 (5,187 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        

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Interesting article supersuds. Glad that I did get a Whirlpool TL after all. :)

Post# 412770 , Reply# 15   2/5/2010 at 09:10 (5,187 days old) by rll70sman (Hastings, Minnesota)        

Mike, I'm glad you like your new washer. Hope to see pictures of your or spookiness' machine. I'm curious to see which model it is. It may be the one I was looking at before I bought the Whirlpool.

I know there is plenty of negativity toward Whirlpool on here and out and about, but all my appliances except the stove are Whirlpool brand. They have been very reliable and if repair has been needed, it has been minor. Replacement parts are readily available, well constructed, and mostly made in the United States. Just think of all the jobs the Whirlpool FSP parts industry maintains aside from appliance manufacturing! I'll continue to support the company and my local appliance dealer which supplies many of the Whirlpool brands like Amana, Estate, Maytag, and Whirlpool.


Post# 412787 , Reply# 16   2/5/2010 at 10:25 (5,187 days old) by drewz (Alexandria, Virginia)        

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All Whirlpool U.S. family brands TL's are still made in U.S.(except for that World Washer, apt size thing, which was made in Mexico but was moved to Brazil.

All Whirlpool family brands front loader washers & SOME matching dryers come from various countries outside the U.S.

Only plans for Mexico currently are refrigerators, which was over quoted by the media as to its size and number of employees it would have since Whirlpool just took over Woods Freezer Company in Canada which Whirlpool recently reopened and rehired the former Woods Inc. employees.


Post# 412825 , Reply# 17   2/5/2010 at 12:31 (5,187 days old) by aaronfitzy (Pennsylvania)        
Here's a pic

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I'm pretty sure this is what gmmcnair bought at Home Deport...its matches the price and its an Amana. Pretty good rating from HD customers I might add.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO aaronfitzy's LINK


Post# 412828 , Reply# 18   2/5/2010 at 12:46 (5,186 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        
aaronfitzy

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Yep....that's the one! :)

I put it through a workout last night too. I had almost three weeks of laundry backed up.


Post# 412830 , Reply# 19   2/5/2010 at 12:50 (5,186 days old) by aaronfitzy (Pennsylvania)        
cool...

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Nice machine. I really wish I would have done some more research before buying my FL. That price is just amazing for a new washer. Oh well :(

Post# 412864 , Reply# 20   2/5/2010 at 16:51 (5,186 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        
yes, $259...hmm

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maybe its just me but it sure seems like many retailers have been jackin up prices on the basic TLs so folks will move/ trade up?

Post# 412891 , Reply# 21   2/5/2010 at 19:09 (5,186 days old) by mikes ()        
A Cheer For BOL Whirlpool Products

There's nothing wrong with a basic Whirlpool-made product; they do their jobs well without much complaint. My Roper washer and gas dryer have gone 11 years so far without one repair; ditto my Roper dishwasher. I also had a Roper gas range; the electronic ignition was defective but was replaced under warranty. Still, it was replaced with a Frigidare gas range (I wanted a self-cleaning oven). And the Roper fridge I owned broke down and cost too much to repair. So it left my kitchen and was replaced with--no surprise--a Whirlpool fridge, top freezer, no ice maker. Works like a champ.


Post# 413209 , Reply# 22   2/6/2010 at 19:22 (5,185 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
I checked out that washer tonight!

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I have been wanting a BOL DD washer now for months. Roper at least seems to offer a real BOL model, but the guys at our local appliance store don't seem to want to sell me one. I tried the other day (they have a 1-cycle no frills machine on the floor for $199) but the store manager offered me a two-speed three cycle Estate super capacity machine instead because he didn't want to special order the Roper (aka none in stock). The Estate retailed for $348 and he was going to sell it to me for $220!!!!! I really wanted a true BOL machine so I said 'thanks but no'.

Being curious about the Admiral, I checked it out - what a DEAL! $259 for the washing machine and $239 for the dryer is a deal and a half. $500 for a fully functional pair is the best buy out there if you ask me.

Looks like the models have changed at HD recently - last time I was there they had a GE with a single knob on the left (I forget which was not included - temp or water levels) and a similar Admiral I think, with timer set temps.

I hope a few folks here buy these machines if needed - they look like a great deal.

Gordon


Post# 413277 , Reply# 23   2/6/2010 at 23:03 (5,185 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        
KenmoreGuy64....

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I think that Lowes offers the BOL Roper....1 speed but I think it has the adjustable water level. I looked at it, but it had the 2.5 cubic ft. tub, and I wanted the 3.2 cu ft for pillows, blankets, etc.

I know Lowes has them in stock out here in Oregon. You might wanna check. :)

The Admiral is really a great deal for someone that needs a basic machine. I've put everything through it now, from my own clothes, to doggie blankets, to my (lightweight polyfill) king comforter and all is well. Like I said, I wish the water temps were a little warmer but things are coming clean, and it's something I just need to get used to with the feds sticking their nose in.


Post# 413283 , Reply# 24   2/6/2010 at 23:33 (5,185 days old) by maytagmark (Galveston,Tx.)        
Water Temps

Can you adjust the water temp at the faucet, on my dependable care Maytag I have to turn the cold water way down to make the water warm enough, That Admiral is a great deal,I checked it out even though I don't need another washer at the moment,I was tempted to buy one just to have a new one on hand, If it stayed in the box till the Maytags die it would probably be vintage by then.

Post# 413337 , Reply# 25   2/7/2010 at 03:07 (5,185 days old) by lordkenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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Another way of getting hotter water might be adding it by manually. I've done that in the past--once hauling bucket after bucket after bucket of hot water. A pain, although fitness nuts could consider it "strength training." An easier solution for long term use is to rig up a hose that could be stuck into the washer during the fill to add a jolt of hot water.

Post# 413616 , Reply# 26   2/8/2010 at 08:39 (5,184 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        
Actually....

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...I think I'll just adjust to lower temperatures.

I bought a better quality detergent, and it seems to do fine with the cooler water. I'm sure I will be thankful once the electric bill arrives. :)


Post# 413981 , Reply# 27   2/9/2010 at 14:13 (5,182 days old) by drewz (Alexandria, Virginia)        

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Whirlpool BOL's are decent products; sometimes less is more!

Whirlpool's current retail family tree:

Admiral-Home Depot only, aka:

Inglis- Best Buy Only, aka:

Roper- Lowes & Comm Sales, aka:

Estate- Lowes & Comm Sales.


Post# 417450 , Reply# 28   2/21/2010 at 22:13 (5,170 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Hi Mike!

Just wondering how the washer is working out. Are you still happy with it?

Gordon


Post# 417459 , Reply# 29   2/21/2010 at 22:54 (5,170 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
I recently

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hooked up an 'Estate' washer and dryer.
Gave me the opportunity to look at the innards.

Exact same mechanism as Maytag.

With Whirlpool, you don't get what you pay for when you plop money down for the brand name of Maytag or Whirlpool. All you get is Roper/Estate/Admiral at exorbitant prices.

I am never going to have anything good to say about an appliance built after 1975 or so, but for the money, these bol Whirlpools are just as good internally as the TOLs.

Did a wash in the Estates to make sure they were set up correctly. Everything came out just fine and my intentionally unbalanced trial spin with one very heavy wet towel didn't bother the washer one bit, either.



Post# 417583 , Reply# 30   2/22/2010 at 12:44 (5,169 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        
Just curious

Mike, does your new washer fill to the top?
Thanks, Mike


Post# 417821 , Reply# 31   2/23/2010 at 07:29 (5,169 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
ADJUSTING WARM WATER TEMPS

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Try reversing the hot and cold hoses on the washer and reversing the two sets of wires on the inlet valve. Some of the new inlet valves are like 70% cold 30% hot by reversing you will get 70% hot 30% cold the only down fall is the cold rinse fill will take longer. You can also buy an inlet valve for a belt drive machine which will give you lots of water and a 50-50 mixture.

Post# 417887 , Reply# 32   2/23/2010 at 13:29 (5,168 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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John,

I was thinking about this subject too - so many of Whirlpool's machines now are ATC-auto temperature control, maybe even all of them. Some of the current line started with standard mixing valves and they've now been slightly modified (with one of those engineering changes we've mentioned) to have a valve on either side of the fill-flume, one is blue and one is red. They appear about 6-8 inches apart on the back of the machine. I'd like to use a belt drive 358277 valve but I don't know now without knocking a hole in the rear panel, that one could be mounted. I did wonder however about using two separate single-solenoid valves and connecting them together on a T.

I think the best advice above may be to just get used to lower temps. The funny part is that with my belt drives and the absolutely frigid tap water we have in Charlotte right now, if I don't add a lot of hot to a machine, especially to those in the garage where it was only in the 50s this weekend, 'warm' is barely cool in my description. Contrast that to summer when warm, especially if I've used some hot water recently (finicky newer gas water heater) is almost too hot as our tap water could pass for luke-warm. It would be perfect for Cold-water Tide, no doubt. Maybe something that keeps these temps. better moderated isn't a bad thing?

Gordon


Post# 418266 , Reply# 33   2/24/2010 at 19:27 (5,167 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana)        

Could you post some pics of these machines please? I would love to see them.

Post# 418297 , Reply# 34   2/24/2010 at 21:26 (5,167 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        

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from HD web site

Post# 418426 , Reply# 35   2/25/2010 at 11:30 (5,167 days old) by spookiness (Alexandria VA)        
I think my panel is a little different

I have the ATW4475VQ, and I think the timer dial pattern is slightly different than the pic that stainfighter posted. I'll check.

The basket is dark gray speckled.


Post# 424669 , Reply# 36   3/24/2010 at 21:23 (5,139 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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FYI folks - these babies are on sale again for $259!!!


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