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Post# 412774   2/5/2010 at 09:50 (5,187 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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North Jersey Craigslist. I was the lucky winner and I have to go get it tomorrow at 3pm. Didn't I see this on my older Whirlpool thread somewhere? Anyone know some information about this particular beauty?

Thanks,
Brian


CLICK HERE TO GO TO brianl's LINK on Newjersey Craigslist





Post# 412778 , Reply# 1   2/5/2010 at 10:10 (5,187 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Congrats!


Does it come with the brackets to mount it on the wall like that, and a gasket on the lid to be able to hold water?


(ducks and runs)


Post# 412782 , Reply# 2   2/5/2010 at 10:18 (5,187 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Looks nice!

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Darren in Philly (Aldspinboy) saved one like this a couple of weeks ago. Looks a lot like my 66 Inglis (a Canadian-made Whirlpool) - I'd venture a guess that it's a early to mid 1960's model. Great save!!

Post# 412784 , Reply# 3   2/5/2010 at 10:22 (5,187 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Hey there Toggles!!

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I know where you live, no running away from me HAHAHAHA! Maybe you should come down and get it with me tomorrow lol. "Over the river, and through the woods, to pick up a washer we go."

Post# 412823 , Reply# 4   2/5/2010 at 12:23 (5,187 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Looks like a '66 to me. Great find!

Post# 412937 , Reply# 5   2/5/2010 at 22:44 (5,186 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

66 is what I would estimate. You sure did find a nice Whirlpool.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 413286 , Reply# 6   2/6/2010 at 23:58 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Here come the pics!

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Washer Top & Console. (Still a little dirty)

Post# 413287 , Reply# 7   2/7/2010 at 00:03 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Washer Front (Little bit rusty though)

Post# 413288 , Reply# 8   2/7/2010 at 00:04 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Pitted chrome handle

Post# 413289 , Reply# 9   2/7/2010 at 00:05 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Console minus the control panel

Post# 413290 , Reply# 10   2/7/2010 at 00:06 (5,185 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        
Re: Here Come The Pics:

So far so good. Congrats on nabbing this beauty, and I can't wait to see the rest of the photos. Thanks for sharing.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 413291 , Reply# 11   2/7/2010 at 00:08 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Control Panel

Post# 413292 , Reply# 12   2/7/2010 at 00:09 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Water Temp Switch

Post# 413293 , Reply# 13   2/7/2010 at 00:10 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Cycle Dial

Post# 413294 , Reply# 14   2/7/2010 at 00:10 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Water Level Switch

Post# 413295 , Reply# 15   2/7/2010 at 00:11 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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RCA Whirlpool Logo

Post# 413296 , Reply# 16   2/7/2010 at 00:12 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Other Logo's

Post# 413297 , Reply# 17   2/7/2010 at 00:13 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Inside Lid

Post# 413298 , Reply# 18   2/7/2010 at 00:14 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Tub Shot

Post# 413299 , Reply# 19   2/7/2010 at 00:16 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Agitator Top (Posting videos shortly)

Post# 413301 , Reply# 20   2/7/2010 at 00:30 (5,185 days old) by circlew (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

Not a bad looking washer, Brian. The top and lid look to be in excellent condition. My former neighbor Hazel had one that looked about like yours. Have fun with it.

Post# 413305 , Reply# 21   2/7/2010 at 00:42 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
1966 RCA Whirlpool Washer Fill (No Clothes)

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Post# 413306 , Reply# 22   2/7/2010 at 00:43 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
1966 RCA Whirlpool Washer Fill & Agitate

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Post# 413307 , Reply# 23   2/7/2010 at 00:44 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
1966 RCA Whirlpool Washer Agitate & Neutral Drain

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Post# 413308 , Reply# 24   2/7/2010 at 00:47 (5,185 days old) by supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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Like the styling a lot. Congrats!

Agitation a bit slow, though? I didn't know they were that gentle.


Post# 413310 , Reply# 25   2/7/2010 at 00:52 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
1966 RCA Whirlpool Washer Neutral Drain & Shifting Into Spin

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Post# 413311 , Reply# 26   2/7/2010 at 00:58 (5,185 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Really super machine-in watching the last video-Agitate and neutral drain-sounds like the belt needs to be retensioned or replaced-the "Woo-Woo" of the agitation sounds a little draggy.Or are you using the machine in the "gentle" mode?Either way the belt should be checked.At its longest span-you should be able to deflect the center with your finger about half- 3 forths of an inch.

Post# 413314 , Reply# 27   2/7/2010 at 01:11 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
1966 RCA Whirlpool Washer Winding Down From Spin To Rinse Fi

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Post# 413316 , Reply# 28   2/7/2010 at 01:15 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
About the slow agitation

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Unfortunately I was not in gentle agitation. If I was in gentle, it is worse. It seems like the belt was replaced along with the pump as I have a paper work order saying to replace belt and pump 365. Will take picture of order after getting some sleep. Also have the original owner's manual. Agitation gets better as the machine is used and in the spin video you will notice the spin getting faster and faster and after the 4th spray, you will hear it winding up to perhaps full speed.

Post# 413320 , Reply# 29   2/7/2010 at 02:06 (5,185 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Brian what a great washer congratulations it must be whirlpool month.
Your machine is looking good , i found mine about a month ago and slowly starting to clean him up i have two water levels and three temps on my model that is i think is the only difference and yours is self cleaning.
The model here has a magic clean filter my motor is pretty loud but agitates pretty well & spins fine i would like to give it a new belt and hopefully get it restored to top condition one day but i also have the other machine to do first.
It was nice seeing a face with the name at Eric's wash in looked liked you guy's had a great time.
So tell me what you think of this whirlpool, it needs much more cleaning and just stuff lol thanks...nice vids.


Post# 413324 , Reply# 30   2/7/2010 at 02:07 (5,185 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Pic 2. Control Panel.

Post# 413325 , Reply# 31   2/7/2010 at 02:07 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Front Of Manual

Post# 413326 , Reply# 32   2/7/2010 at 02:08 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Back Of Manual

Post# 413327 , Reply# 33   2/7/2010 at 02:08 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Top half of the repair bill.

Post# 413328 , Reply# 34   2/7/2010 at 02:09 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Bottom half of repair bill.

Post# 413329 , Reply# 35   2/7/2010 at 02:09 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Front of the warranty certificate.

Post# 413330 , Reply# 36   2/7/2010 at 02:10 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Back of the warranty certificate

Post# 413331 , Reply# 37   2/7/2010 at 02:11 (5,185 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Pic 3. Tub .

Post# 413332 , Reply# 38   2/7/2010 at 02:17 (5,185 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Nice washer Darren

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Yours looks great. I see the difference in the water settings and your dial is different then mine. Also the 2-speed/4-cycle logo is not on yours. Didn't realize they would make them so different yet look so much the same. I like the chrome on yours, mine is quite pitted. I am thinking about getting the parts re-chromed one day perhaps. The warranty on my certificate says it is effective Nov. 15, 1965, so I assume that is when the washer was purchased? Did they print the warranty certificates as the washers were purchased?

Post# 413333 , Reply# 39   2/7/2010 at 02:36 (5,185 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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First of all i want to say sorry for posting when you where did not no it... whoops.
Brian i don't no the answer about the warranty but thanks for the manual shots.
You should have seen the chrome when i got it.. here it is...
Mayby we should do a double post has that been done before lol...




Darren k


Post# 413334 , Reply# 40   2/7/2010 at 02:42 (5,185 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Tub with white cap.
I like the black & white with this machine your views ?







Darren k.


Post# 413335 , Reply# 41   2/7/2010 at 02:58 (5,185 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Whirlpool!

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They are both real nice machines. I always loved the Whirlpools for their simplicity and ease of use.
Peter


Post# 413336 , Reply# 42   2/7/2010 at 03:02 (5,185 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

BrianL, Nice whirly and thank you for posting the pics so we could enjoy it too. alr2903

Post# 413370 , Reply# 43   2/7/2010 at 11:12 (5,185 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I'm jealous.....my 1962 is so plain

Post# 413371 , Reply# 44   2/7/2010 at 11:13 (5,185 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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but fun to wash with........

Post# 413385 , Reply# 45   2/7/2010 at 11:28 (5,185 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
LOVE THE GIGANTIC PICS OF THE DIALS-- FABULOUS!

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Will watch the flix later. Thanks, and Brian I can't remember or locate which thread, but you asked about the the bedeviling bellows and overloading, and John Combo swears that heavy loading does not a bellows break. If anything, he said, it would stress the motor, in extreme cases, but not the happy little rubber accordion. So I'm back to huge winter loads in the Unimatic.

Post# 413391 , Reply# 46   2/7/2010 at 11:54 (5,185 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I love the picture at the top of the thread. This must be what people mean when they talk about a "horizontal axis" washer, LOL!

A great find!


Post# 413405 , Reply# 47   2/7/2010 at 12:29 (5,185 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Hey guy's here is the agitator before and after with hard mineral & scum buildup.


Post# 413410 , Reply# 48   2/7/2010 at 12:37 (5,185 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Brian, in the video for the spin beetween wash & rinse, there werre only 3 spray rinses (I watched twice and counted). tghought therew were supposed to be 4. also, hope you will get the belt tightened. That pained me uqite a bit to watch that try to agitate and struggle.

Post# 413412 , Reply# 49   2/7/2010 at 12:38 (5,185 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Oh, and very nice mochine. this is one of those3 that shifts to gentle agitation on wash'n'wearr at the 4 minute mark and also rinses on gentle. Is there a detailed cycle sequence chart in the manual?

Post# 413413 , Reply# 50   2/7/2010 at 12:42 (5,185 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Pic 2. After. Paul ( Turquoisedude ) said to put on clear enamel waterproof paint, protects it and makes it look like maybe Rick r beautiful Surgilator ?

Post# 413421 , Reply# 51   2/7/2010 at 12:59 (5,185 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Brian is there anything besides your belt that has to be tighten on your machine?







Darren k.


Post# 413424 , Reply# 52   2/7/2010 at 13:09 (5,185 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        
Brian---

Be sure to contact Combo52. He is a Whirly guru for sure!

Yogitunes----I know you are just kidding because that machine of yours is awesome.


Post# 413451 , Reply# 53   2/7/2010 at 14:38 (5,184 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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I second that Gyrafoam i never seen one like it i told Martin that washer rocks.







Darren k.


Post# 413463 , Reply# 54   2/7/2010 at 15:31 (5,184 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

Love those vintage Whirlpools. I like the big plastic timer dials. Our 70's Whirlpool dial was like that. Don't care to much for the 80's dial when Whirlpool switched to painting the times on the panel.

Post# 413472 , Reply# 55   2/7/2010 at 16:05 (5,184 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Thanks for sharing the rest of the photos, and the videos were a bonus; thank you very much for those. Hopefully the issue of the slow agitation will be mended without a lot of fuss.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 413483 , Reply# 56   2/7/2010 at 16:53 (5,184 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        

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Wow, nice washer Brian! It reminds me of my 1965 Supreme 80 (Thanks Glenn!).

I’m not sure about when the warranty card was printed but I just emailed you a PDF so you can see when it was made by using the model number and serial number.

Bob,
Mine has 4 spray rinses (During the spin between every cycle’s wash & rinse and on the final spin during the Normal Cycle, but they are only 3 seconds long).

~Jeff


Post# 413485 , Reply# 57   2/7/2010 at 16:54 (5,184 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        

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Brian,
The control panel looks about the same except for the filtering light that glows during agitation (Filtering).

Yogitunes,
Yours looks mint and I love the clear topped brush on the Magic Mix Dispenser Filter.

~Jeff


Post# 413486 , Reply# 58   2/7/2010 at 16:55 (5,184 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        

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Brian,
The left side is a little different. Thank for the videos!

Darren, yours is awesome also. What does the Super Soak do? Does it spin after the soak? If it does spin, are there any spray rinses?

~Jeff


Post# 413510 , Reply# 59   2/7/2010 at 18:19 (5,184 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I'm curious also about the Super Soak cycle. There's one timer increment after the 2-min position, so I'm figuring it ends with a drain, leaving the clothes wet/saturated with detergent solution and ready to restart on a full cycle.

Jeff, I was surprised that the sprays on your machine are only 3 seconds. I expected they'd be 5 to 7 seconds.


Post# 413517 , Reply# 60   2/7/2010 at 18:40 (5,184 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Not

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My harvest gold Whirlpool portable has the same settings.

Washer fills, then agitates for whatever minutes one has set the dial to, then partially drains, "soaks", then refills and continues on with the cycle with no spin in between. One can also stop the machine after the soaking period, and set it to another cycle or shorter cycle if desired.


Post# 413542 , Reply# 61   2/7/2010 at 20:04 (5,184 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Launderess, you're referring to Super Wash cycle as on BrianL's and Jeff's machines, which precedes and automatically proceeds into the Normal cycle (or Perm Press on machines that have it on both). The soak period is only 2 mins, so it's more of a double-wash/prewash situation with a pause possibly to allow heavy/muddy soil to settle in the outer tub before the partial drain.

The Super Soak cycle on Darren's machine is a standalone selection. Theoretically it could either drain and stop without a spin, or simply stop leaving the tub full for a soak until the machine is manually reset to drain. Or it could drain, spin, and shut off, but that wouldn't have much effect for "soaking."


Post# 413544 , Reply# 62   2/7/2010 at 20:17 (5,184 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jeff thanks. I THOUGHT there should be 4 spin spray rinses, but I had to check. And I agree with Glenn, I timed them on the video and they were only 3 seconds, just like Glenn mentioned for your machine too. It just "semed" to me that Kenmore spray rinses were longer, maybe the 5 seconds or even 7 seconds like Glenn mentioned.

Post# 413555 , Reply# 63   2/7/2010 at 21:19 (5,184 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        
SUPER SOAK????

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Bob,
My 1970 and 1975 Whirlpools both have 7 second spray rinses.

Launderess,
On the later belt-drive models the “Super Wash” is exactly how you described. Washer fills, then agitates for whatever minutes one has set the dial to, then there is one, two minute timer increment where it partially drains, pauses, then advances to the next timer increment, refills and continues on with the cycle.”

The older models from the sixties like these actually go into a 2 minute “soak” increment with a pause possibly to allow heavy/muddy soil to settle in the outer tub before the partial drain, as Glenn mentioned. Then the next 2 minute increment is the partial drain and another pause until the timer advances.

Darren,
Everyone seems to be curious about the “Super Soak” cycle on your machine. So what’s the verdict?



Post# 413556 , Reply# 64   2/7/2010 at 21:38 (5,184 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Thanks Jeff for the clarrification. Glad to know I'm not totally loosin my mind. I still have a hard time believing that if you double the detergent amount for the super wash, and with the partial drain and refill, there's still enough detergent and good slippy solution to work on more dirt during the main wash. Wish I could see independent testing proving this whole theory.

Post# 413561 , Reply# 65   2/7/2010 at 21:57 (5,184 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Tightening the belt

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How would one go about doing that? I noticed the agitation gets better with use; is there a reason for that? It looks like the belt was changed around 2003 as per that work order I posted (says 37 year old washer, and figured it was probably a 1966, so 2003). The back service panel was off when I picked it up (took it with me of course). Too bad the original pump was changed out, I would have like to see what it looks like. I will see if I can get some decent pics of the service area when I pull it out to tighten the belt. I appreciate all the information everyone is giving to me and I will keep everyone posted on updates.

Post# 413570 , Reply# 66   2/7/2010 at 23:09 (5,184 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Remove the service panel. Loosen the motor mounting bolt that's exposed on top of the baseplate. Place a hammer handle or long screwdriver between the motor brackets for leverage and pull toward the left, tighten the bolt while holding the appropriate tension on the belt.


Post# 413575 , Reply# 67   2/8/2010 at 00:02 (5,184 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
"Super-Wash"

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Here's how it goes on mine:

CLICK HERE TO GO TO launderess's LINK


Post# 413593 , Reply# 68   2/8/2010 at 04:24 (5,184 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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That was the sequence on my grandparents' late 1960s Supreme 80 and my parents' 1976 Supreme 80. Six, 4, or 2-min wash, 2-min pause, followed by partial drain and another pause which is the remainder of the drain increment after the water level pressure switch resets to end the partial drain, same as on a Perm Press cool down. The length of the 2nd pause varies per how long is the drain -- higher/lower water level = longer/shorter drain to water level reset = shorter/longer pause.

My 1985 BD Imperial 70 has a 4- or 2-min wash followed by a partial drain/pause, then on into Normal. That's also the sequence on my 1992 DD KA. KA refers to it as Extra Wash.


Post# 413621 , Reply# 69   2/8/2010 at 08:58 (5,184 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
BELT THIGHTING ON WP BELT WASHERS

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When tighting the belt loosen both 9/16" bolts on the base plate then pry the motor over to the left and tighten the rear nut then the front one. If you don't loosen the front nut you put a heavy stress on the rubber motor mounting grommets and the machine will make more motor hum-noise you may also break one of the mounting studs off the motor.

Post# 413623 , Reply# 70   2/8/2010 at 09:37 (5,184 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Great information

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I will try that stuff this evening as I am pretty pumped to get it working properly. Once done, I will update with new videos. I bet the person who worked on the washer did not tension the belt right. Also I did notice that the belt used had "teeth" on the inside and flat side facing out to me; is that correct?

Post# 413648 , Reply# 71   2/8/2010 at 11:10 (5,184 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Brian -

The proper belt for many belt-drive washers, yours included, is currently part number 95405. If you have a factory belt, it should have the FSP logo and the part number either printed or embossed on the belt. Older belts were stamped in red. Even some aftermarket belts have the number 95405 on them, just no FSP logo. I would be very surprised if your machine has the skinny quiet-pak belt, but if it does the tensioning procedure is the same.

The FSP belt is a cogged belt, and definitely SHOULD have the teeth on the inside, smooth outside.

I only watched your videos once, but I thought I heard the sound of belt slippage. I have not had much experience with belts that are too loose, though I did have one stretch a good bit from brand new which needed to be tightened a couple months after the machine was installed.

Aren't you the one who recently got the 1983/1984 Whirlpool machines? If you are unsure about the belt tension, I would compare the '66 to the good machine that you filmed. However, if your machine's problem is a loose belt, I think you're going to find it EXTREMELY loose. My experience with belts that needed a "snugging" was that they'd work fine in agitation and drag only in spin.

John is very correct about properly tensioning the belt. Since there are two motor mounting bolts, just loosening one may not allow the mounting brackets enough room to move and adjust properly. The second bolt is a bit consealed and you may need to feel for it, but it is under the rear bracket and you can reach it using a socket with an extension. Have both nuts loose, then tighten the outermost nut, followed by the the hidden inner one. Do not make the belt "piano wire" tight. It needs to be able to deflect somewhat, though the "pounds of force" measurement that WP gives on the belt packages and in service manuals is a bit subjective if you can't measure it. Push in on the belt between the motor pulley and the trans pulley - it should move in about 1/2 to 2/3 an inch (depending on how much force you use). If you can almost pull the belt off the pulleys, it's too loose.

I hope this helps!

Gordon


Post# 413651 , Reply# 72   2/8/2010 at 11:23 (5,184 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Brian -

I just spent some time watching the various videos, rather listening to them. I am not completely convinced this is just a belt tension issue. The motor sounds like it's not running at full speed. I know what motors sound like when they have no belt on them at all, and I would think a motor that is unburdened by a tight belt would sound more like that than one that is laboring. Your motor sounds like it is working hard.

I hope I'm wrong but if the belt doesn't solve the problem, I wonder if the motor is either very weak or is not getting full current. You may want to check your power supply if this is a valid concern.

Still, look at the belt first, then go from there.

Good luck and please keep us posted!

Gordon


Post# 413655 , Reply# 73   2/8/2010 at 11:45 (5,184 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Will check that out

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Just to be 100% sure, I noticed John said tighten the inner hidden one first and then the outer one second. From what I am gathering from you Gordon, is your saying to do the outer one first and the inner one second. Which method is correct, or should it matter?

I can definitely check the belt tension on my '84, as yes that was me who posted about that. Once I see what the deflection is on that one, I will try to mimic it on the '66. I noticed it is now in the 2010 archives.

Gordon, if I understand you correctly, you think the belt tension may be correct, but that the motor is just laboring due to weakness. Looks to be the original or at least changed many years ago as it shows lots of rust on it.


Post# 413657 , Reply# 74   2/8/2010 at 12:13 (5,184 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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It's easier to tighten the outer nut first when you have the tension on the hammer/long screw driver. Just snug it, then tighten the inner one, then go back and fully tighten the outer nut. The important part is not to put the two brackets into a bind with each other.

As to the hunch I have - I am just not sure the machine is making the right sounds for a loose belt only. There are vibrations there and an odd pitch to the motor which makes it sound like it's running in delicate when it's not.

What I'm wondering is if the motor has become weak enough that a properly tensioned belt just holds the motor in place and it just hums, so someone loosened the belt A LOT to get it to run at all, then tossed the machine when they got such lousy performance. Just a thought on my part - it may need only a belt tightening.

Gordon


Post# 413659 , Reply# 75   2/8/2010 at 12:20 (5,184 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
About the vibrations

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I did notice the console back and top are ever so slightly loose. If I press gently down on the top of the console, most of the vibration goes away. When I made the video, I should have paid attention to pushing down on it for a moment. Sometimes it will stay quiet afterwords until a cycle switch. The motor did sound normal to me if I got on my knees and put my ear to the lower front, but as said before, only physically looking into it will tell. I am going to check it in about another 5 hours or so when I get home from work. Anyone got a service manual for this washer electronic or not? I would love to have a copy in case I ever need to do any other repairs.

Post# 413677 , Reply# 76   2/8/2010 at 13:17 (5,184 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Brian -

I haven't seen a manual written for a Whirlpool, but I am sure they were/are out there. Sears carries them still for betl-driven machines, so if nothing else, one of those will work. The newer manuals are based on 1980s machines with pics, etc. but the machines differ only in very minor ways.

Check ebay - there are two or three editions for Kenmore machines, the 1970s version being a little more applicable to your machine but it is also more technically oriented. I've seen lots of these on ebay.

Gordon


Post# 413748 , Reply# 77   2/8/2010 at 20:06 (5,183 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Adjusted the belt

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After pulling out the washer and getting down there, I found the belt to be deflecting perhaps about 1 inch. After much cursing, I managed to get the outer nut loose. The inner nut was near impossible to open, and to be honest, looks like it was never loosened. I used a large flat screwdriver and brought the outer bolt to the end of its travel and tightened it down. The deflection is now only about 1/2 inch, no more than 2/3 inch.

My question now is, is the bolt supposed to be at the end of its travel? I would think that there should be some space leftover for adjustment should the belt loosen over time. I made another video and what a difference! Will be posting shortly.


Post# 413750 , Reply# 78   2/8/2010 at 20:08 (5,183 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Washer Fill & Agitate With Pause

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There is an odd pause between the fill and agitate. This is because I was playing with the dial. To get it to agitate, I manually clicked the timer forward 2 clicks.





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Post# 413776 , Reply# 79   2/8/2010 at 21:24 (5,183 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Brian, was this fill on a wash or rinse portion? What was the water temp, warm? Water level low? If the answer to all these is basically yes, then there are 2 timer increments on a rinse. The 1st increment is the 1st two minutes for fill. If the water level is satisfied before the timer advances in thsoe two minutes (incidentally, the timer motor is running for these 1st two minutes of a rinse fill following the spin), there is a puase until the timer mvoes for it's 2 minute increment. This is actually one of my favorite things about Kenmores and Whirlppols with either extremely good wter pressure on a warm rinse or when using a low water level and good water pressure. I pretty much had to use cold rinses on our Kenmore 800 so this even was a rare occurrance for me.

Post# 413777 , Reply# 80   2/8/2010 at 21:25 (5,183 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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AND, much better, noticeable agitate strength now that you've done the adjustment. Go work!!

Post# 413830 , Reply# 81   2/8/2010 at 23:00 (5,183 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Washer settings

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I actually had high, warm water, and yes, I think I was on the rinse cycle. My hot valve dumps a lit faster than the cold. The screen on the cold is throughly dirty. There was no rubber washer around the screen, just the screen itself.

Also that extra noise is from the machine top, cause if you hinge back the top, the noise goes away. I feel more than usual vibration in the cabinet

So does that mean my agitation is normal speed now? The bolt was taken to the end of it's travel. Isn't there supposed to be a little left for future adjustment?


Post# 413917 , Reply# 82   2/9/2010 at 10:32 (5,183 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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Sweet machine! I'll have to drop by and check it out soon!

Post# 414286 , Reply# 83   2/10/2010 at 19:46 (5,181 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        
SUPER SOAK CYCLE

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Wow Brian, I’m glad that it was just the belt. It looks like it’s washing like a champ now.

Did anyone figure out what happens on the Super Soak cycle on Darren’s machine?


Post# 414354 , Reply# 84   2/10/2010 at 22:53 (5,181 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Hey guy's sorry was not at around a PC for couple of day's.
Jeff & DADoS ...
The SOAK CYCLE on the lid says...
IN THIS CYCLE THE WASHER AGITATES FOR LENTH OF TIME SELECTED THEN DRAINS AND STOPS.
I have not used it yet with water so i don't no if it pauses, i need to get a hose in the back.
Thanks jeff your Whirlpool is fantastic love the panel and filter lights, do you have a tub shot ? that would be nice to see.
Brian your washer is agitating & sounding much better, I will be learning with you for this is the first machine that needs some major tweaking, and hopefully learn from the members here.
DADoS i would love to see your machines.
Gordon i might need your help on a belt change as well at some point thanks.


Darren k.


Post# 414435 , Reply# 85   2/11/2010 at 09:50 (5,181 days old) by brianl (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Water tempature

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While fooling around with the washer the other day, I noticed that the hot does not work anymore. If I set it to hot wash, it does warm. Warm wash is still warm, and cold wash is still cold. All the rinses match their proper temperature as well. Do you know what could be wrong?

I should mention that I thought I had unplugged the washer, and while adjusting the water level switch, the left side where the hot settings are, touched the cabinet and tripped my GFCI. And before anyone says it, I know that was very stupid of me not to double-check it. I am kicking myself as I am writing this, but have to admit my fault here and see if there is any redeeming hope to all this. :(


Post# 414846 , Reply# 86   2/12/2010 at 21:20 (5,179 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        

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Darren, thanks for getting back with us on the Super Soak cycle. Very interesting!

Brian, I’m not sure why the hot isn’t working. Maybe Gordon knows. He’s an expert on Kenmore/Whirlpool.

Glenn, it looks like you were right about the Super Soak cycle when you said, “There's one timer increment after the 2-min position, so I'm figuring it ends with a drain, leaving the clothes wet/saturated with detergent solution and ready to restart on a full cycle.”

Bob, I also love the little pause that you were talking about in the rinse fill when one uses warm rinse in the standard capacity machine. Cool!



Post# 414847 , Reply# 87   2/12/2010 at 21:25 (5,179 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        

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The 1965 Supreme 80 is actually a 1965/1975 Frankenpool. The 'Frankenpool' as it became known here is/was a washer which was morphed with another washer to become the Frankenpool.

A former member here stared it by taking the top and control panel of an older washer (In this case the 1965 Supreme 80) and mated it onto and wired into the cabinet and mechanicals of a newer washer, in this case the 1975 Whirlpool. The former member actually made a Frankenmore, and you can goggle it on you tube if you’d like to see the original. The former member’s Frankenmore was a 1968 Kenmore top and the cabinet and mechanicals of a 1982 Kenmore. I believe it lives with JasonL now.

Here’s a money shot Darren, of the 1965/1975 Supreme 80 Frankenpool w/ the super surgilator double duty agitator. I have 5 other agitators thanks to the former member who is a buddy of mine (The Surgilator, Super Surgilator, Duel-Acton, Pent-A-Vane and the Pent-A-Swirl which is his on loan).


Post# 414848 , Reply# 88   2/12/2010 at 21:28 (5,179 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        
Control panel of the 1970 Whirlpool

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The cabinet and mechanicals of the 1965 Supreme 80 is morphed with my 1970 Whirlpool top. It was the easiest way to way to get the 1970 Magic Mix Dispenser Filter to work since the 4 port pump draws the water for filtering from an opening in the side of the tub that doesn’t exist in the 1975 Whirlpool.

Post# 414850 , Reply# 89   2/12/2010 at 21:33 (5,179 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        
1970 Whirlpool spin tube

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The 1970 Whirlpool’s spin tube was a total loss and I just kept the machine for parts. Also, notice the opening in the side of the tub in the middle left of the pic. That’s where the Magic Mix Dispenser Filter draws its water for filtering.

~Jeff


Post# 415094 , Reply# 90   2/13/2010 at 15:54 (5,178 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Thanks jeff the washer looks awesome i no that must be really nice to have all the agitators.
Great man.
Love the stainless cap on the Super surgilator.
I thank i watched the video on the frankenmore with a bakelite agitator by westytoploader is that the one ?



Darren k.





Post# 415544 , Reply# 91   2/14/2010 at 23:01 (5,177 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        
Pent-A-Swirl

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The different agitators are definitely fun. Each one changes the woo-woo sound and the machine sounds slightly different.



Post# 415545 , Reply# 92   2/14/2010 at 23:04 (5,177 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        
Surgilator

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Yes, you are right, that’s the one by Westytoploader. Thanks for the compliment on the stainless steel cap, I love it too.

~Jeff


Post# 415557 , Reply# 93   2/14/2010 at 23:31 (5,177 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Nice WP machines there!!

Post# 1065135 , Reply# 94   3/29/2020 at 22:08 (1,481 days old) by JesseD (Saint Marys, Pennsylvania)        
Dumb Question

I have an older whirlpool washer and I cannot get the agitator out. Is there some sort of trick to it? Also how do you take the tub ring off to get the basket out to clean the outer tub and check for rust

Post# 1065137 , Reply# 95   3/29/2020 at 22:52 (1,481 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
There Are Really No Dumb Questions

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But We cannot begin to answer your question without at least a model # and if possible post pictures of anything you are having trouble getting apart etc.

 

John L.


Post# 1065139 , Reply# 96   3/29/2020 at 23:09 (1,481 days old) by JesseD (Saint Marys, Pennsylvania)        

The model number and picture of my machine is in thread 78949

Post# 1065162 , Reply# 97   3/30/2020 at 07:55 (1,481 days old) by JesseD (Saint Marys, Pennsylvania)        

The model number of my machine is LVB5300W1

Any advice or help is greatly appreciated!


Post# 1065173 , Reply# 98   3/30/2020 at 09:34 (1,481 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1970 24" WP Washer

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Hi Jessie, the agitator in this washer often gets stuck to the agitator shaft from rusting of the agitator shaft. You can use boiling water of the top, a really good agitator puller or just break it off by splitting the top and then replacing the agitator.

The basket lock ring usually comes off pretty easily with a little penetrating oil and the proper spanner wrench.

Question; Is the washer working now, all necessary servicing can be done without taking the agitator or basket out of this washer.

If the machine is working you can service the pump, belt, water valve etc without taking a 50 YO machine apart, keep in mind if you take it apart you may end up doing a major rebuild to even get it working again.

John L.


Post# 1065188 , Reply# 99   3/30/2020 at 12:13 (1,481 days old) by JesseD (Saint Marys, Pennsylvania)        

The machine needs the bearings changed so I figured I would check the out tub for rust and a dress any issues at the same time.


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