Which Magazine January 1979

Those Bauknecht models were better built than the newer ones, that's for sure, but I don't think they were as some of the other German brands. Indeed interesting that they became the name Beekay in the UK.

I love the Bosch washer/dryer, I was always fascinated by it. One dial was the cycle selector IIRC there were 20 programmes. The timer was behind a small window I think. The other dial is for the drying programmes. Probably only time controlled.

The Bendix was sold in the Netherlands mostly by the department store V&D (fully: Vroom & Dreesmann, by friends of mine always referred to as Vulgar and Disgusting LOL). Those were reliable AND affordable machines. I still remember how the timer felt. If you turned it you felt a heavy resistance.

Creda started selling washers in the Netherlands in the eighties I suppose. It was then when I saw a Creda washing machine for the first time while the smaller Creda dryers were on the market here long before that.

I had never heard of the Hirundo brand, but it shouts indeed Indesit.

I really love that Miele toploader washer/dryer. I have always had a weak spot for H-axis toploaders. The built in dryer makes it even better I guess. There were more German brands that had a topload washer/dryer combo sooner or later. I remember specific models from AEG and Siemens. The Miele toploader was a rare specimen, I think that it was only made for a short while.

The Philips 707 is a beauty! I love those older Philips models with the timer on the left. There was indeed no separate spin on those models because the spin started with a drum full of water. When you stopped the machine in the middle of a spin and wanted to restart it would refuse that, it would only pump. If you wanted a spin you had to set the timer on the last rinse and do a full rinse before it would do a spin again.

BTW, I love the label "worth thinking about"!


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Post# 414213 2/10/2010 at 13:20 (5,187 days old) by robm (Buxted)
Checkrate/Likes Hi all I thought I would share with you all this little gem I came across. It gives a quick guide to the washers of 1979, with spin speeds etc.. The one I'm very interested in is the 800 spin Hirundo/Indesit. Never knew they did a faster spin. Does anyone know if it span drained? Rob

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Post# 414221 , Reply# 7 2/10/2010 at 13:24 (5,187 days old) by robm (Buxted)
Checkrate/Likes 8 Really sorry I couldn't get this on one page

Post# 414222 , Reply# 8 2/10/2010 at 13:25 (5,187 days old) by robm (Buxted)
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Post# 414231 , Reply# 9 2/10/2010 at 14:32 (5,187 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes *Wow!!!!!* Thank you for posting!! Those were the days!! I have a lot of reading to do!! Louis

Post# 414233 , Reply# 10 2/10/2010 at 14:43 (5,187 days old) by bertrum ()
Checkrate/Likes Great machines there. Which magazine is hit now and hit in 1979. How can you judge on the quality of a brand new machine?

Post# 414237 , Reply# 11 2/10/2010 at 15:13 (5,187 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Which,, Verdict..??* Many thanks Rob for posting, its not a two minute job scanning, re-sizing & posting etc... Have to smile, Which Verdict on Servis, they say that "All The Servis Models had NO Seperate Spin" well thats balony because they all did!!!!

Post# 414250 , Reply# 12 2/10/2010 at 17:44 (5,187 days old) by autorinse_john (Staffordshire - UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Which ? Verdict ???* I do wonder how the Which magazine get to their verdicts on machines ! I subscribe to Which every month their reports are incredible, They always rate Hoover as "below" average for reliability but Candy as average and same for Hotpoint/indesit ???????????????????????????????????????

Post# 414282 , Reply# 13 2/10/2010 at 19:30 (5,187 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)
Checkrate/Likes Very interesting - they really didn't like the top-loading agitator washers much, did they? Funny that it was so opposite over here with only one front-load option that Consumer Reports pooh-poohed year after year.

Post# 414349 , Reply# 14 2/10/2010 at 22:48 (5,187 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *thanks !* Candy - Actually that serie from Candy was the worst POS they have ever made. I had the C134 (the washer-without-baffles) BeeKay - I see Bauknecht had a more tongue friendly badge in UK . If I'm not wrong a canadian AW member (Eddie ?) has one of these models without the dropdown door (dial with yellow-orange-red stripes) We were about to buy that very model in the pic. Wisely my father was more impressed by the miele. Louis were these models already flimsy as current ones ? [OT] Paul, is all ok now with the miele ?

Post# 414357 , Reply# 15 2/10/2010 at 22:57 (5,187 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *that Eastham Burco* was made by the old SILTAL company in Abbiategrasso (Milan). Guessed they sold only in our internal market only, cause they were smurfs if compared with Zanussi, Candy, Indesit and Merloni

Post# 414359 , Reply# 16 2/10/2010 at 23:05 (5,187 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *BK WA 719 S* Old thread where MatchboxPaul posted a shot of that very BK serie CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK

Post# 414388 , Reply# 17 2/11/2010 at 02:12 (5,187 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Creda* The Creda Debonair always intreged me, its so like the later Hoovers that I wonder if they bought the mouldings etc because both body styles changed after these models.

Post# 414441 , Reply# 18 2/11/2010 at 10:48 (5,186 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes Those Bauknecht models were better built than the newer ones, that's for sure, but I don't think they were as some of the other German brands. Indeed interesting that they became the name Beekay in the UK. I love the Bosch washer/dryer, I was always fascinated by it. One dial was the cycle selector IIRC there were 20 programmes. The timer was behind a small window I think. The other dial is for the drying programmes. Probably only time controlled. The Bendix was sold in the Netherlands mostly by the department store V&D (fully: Vroom & Dreesmann, by friends of mine always referred to as Vulgar and Disgusting LOL). Those were reliable AND affordable machines. I still remember how the timer felt. If you turned it you felt a heavy resistance. Creda started selling washers in the Netherlands in the eighties I suppose. It was then when I saw a Creda washing machine for the first time while the smaller Creda dryers were on the market here long before that. I had never heard of the Hirundo brand, but it shouts indeed Indesit. I really love that Miele toploader washer/dryer. I have always had a weak spot for H-axis toploaders. The built in dryer makes it even better I guess. There were more German brands that had a topload washer/dryer combo sooner or later. I remember specific models from AEG and Siemens. The Miele toploader was a rare specimen, I think that it was only made for a short while. The Philips 707 is a beauty! I love those older Philips models with the timer on the left. There was indeed no separate spin on those models because the spin started with a drum full of water. When you stopped the machine in the middle of a spin and wanted to restart it would refuse that, it would only pump. If you wanted a spin you had to set the timer on the last rinse and do a full rinse before it would do a spin again. BTW, I love the label "worth thinking about"!

Post# 414450 , Reply# 19 2/11/2010 at 11:34 (5,186 days old) by robm (Buxted)
Checkrate/Likes Hello all I'm glad you all liked the scans. They are fiddly like Mike says but well worth it if you have a moment. I notice the article speaks well of the Hirundo. I have seen them mentioned on here before. Someone posted some brochures in Italian. Basically Indesit as Louis says. I just wonder how they differ mechanically from the slow spin versions. I always thought Creda was the fore-runner of the 1980s Hoovers. Like Mike says the doors were very similar. One big difference I remember was the glass window which was much slimmer on the Hoover machines. I remember my Nan's neighbour having the 10500 and it was a great machine with fantastic almost spaceship noises. Rob

Post# 414505 , Reply# 20 2/11/2010 at 14:56 (5,186 days old) by keiththomas ()
Checkrate/Likes Hi Interesting, Hirundo I saw some years ago was also on Radios and TV's. Indesit as it was then went into the Audio Market Like Zanussi but it failed and pulled out in the early to mid 1980's. Hirundo was an upmarket brand of Indesit which did not last long and dissappeared quietly. Indesit has come back with a vengence since the merger with Merloni in the late 1980's. I did prefer the old crown symbol of Indesit which was replaced by the diamond symbol in 1981 then the current one some time in 2000.

Post# 417602 , Reply# 21 2/22/2010 at 13:46 (5,175 days old) by keiththomas ()
Checkrate/Likes *Copies* Hi I would like to have a copy of this magazine, tried ebay not on for that month though