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Extra Rinse..."Yes or No"
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Post# 414745   2/12/2010 at 11:51 (5,186 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        

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Ok, for starters I have to say the main focus for this thread is my apparent need for a new extra rinse selector switch for my 68 GE washer. The stem is made of plastic and it finally broke right off. I'm sure this must be an easy-to-find little part but want to be sure I get the right thing or even see if someone on here has one laying around and doesn't mind parting with it. In the photo it's the knob on the right that is a very simple "on/off" switch. Any help is always much appreciate and many GE's will smile upon you from above!

On another note, since we're talking about extra rinse options, I noticed we never really bring that subject up on here. I only have two machines that provide this option, this GE and a 1970 pushbutton Kenmore. I know suggestions on the machines involve using this option for heavily soiled items. It's pretty rare that I have such dirty laundry. The only time I use it is when using chlorine bleach in the wash.

Anyone care to share thoughts and parts?

Jon





Post# 414746 , Reply# 1   2/12/2010 at 11:52 (5,186 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Full panel shot...

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Here's the entire panel for those who enjoy.

Post# 414747 , Reply# 2   2/12/2010 at 12:01 (5,186 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
And one more thing...

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Since I'm talking about this particular machine noticed something else interesting that I hope some of you who own these GE's or have used them can chime in on. My grandmother's machine (identical to this one except a 1969 model) as well as my other grandmother's 1980s Hotpoint both had spray rinses that lasted throughout the rinse spin of the Permanent Press cycle. It would start shortly after the spin began and would the spray would remain on through the spin and would not end until the tub was full for the deep rinse.

The GE I have in these pictures actually does not do that and it's the first one I've come across like it. I figured it was a timer issue (perhaps a cam was broken or something). The other day I was swapping out the drive belt (the original belt finally couldn't handle it and was slipping, not bad for 40+ years though) and got to looking at the timer diagram on the back panel. Sure enough it looks like the spray rinse is supposed to be short and not span the entire spin.

I'd really like to hear what other's experience with these machines. Anywho, you all know your assignments now. :-)

Jon


Post# 414752 , Reply# 3   2/12/2010 at 12:57 (5,186 days old) by dblrinz ()        
Extra Rinse - YES!

As my screen name might suggest I send all of my clothes through, at least, a double rinse. Other than my love for Maytag, it is my single most identifiable laundry trait for those who know me. The hubby says I rinse everything to death...Though he also admits that his clothes last much, much longer than before we were together. I guess that is why he never complains about the water bill. My motto is simple - If there is any trace of suds in the rinse water it gets rinsed again. Can everyone say - NEUROTIC...Yes, I am reasonably self-aware...

Post# 414776 , Reply# 4   2/12/2010 at 15:23 (5,185 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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I only use double rinse if I've used a Soak or Prewash cycle prior to the regular cycle. I double up the detergent and my Speed Queen runs the cycles together - so, double detergent in PreWash, then it washes normally (no additional detergent), then double rinse away. I've only done this probably 5x in 10 years. I have a hard time using double rinse because that's a waste of 40 gallons.

A friend of mine use to always double rinse. I asked why--said he thought you had to since his mom always did. lol. I think using the proper amount of detergent works best to begin with...if you need double detergent, then double rinse.

That's just me, but then again I don't usually have any super dirty clothes or anything.


Post# 414785 , Reply# 5   2/12/2010 at 15:48 (5,185 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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Extra rinse,absolutely. I'm with Dblrinz,if there is any suds left in the rinse water.... Who wants to wear soapy clothes?

Jim


Post# 414791 , Reply# 6   2/12/2010 at 16:24 (5,185 days old) by ptcruiser51 (Boynton Beach, FL)        
No sudz in my dudz

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Always double rinse if I'm using someone's machine. Usually I'm stuck using a commercial washer and set it for permanent press cool-down cycle to at least get some semblance of a second rinse.

Post# 414792 , Reply# 7   2/12/2010 at 16:27 (5,185 days old) by bosch2460 (Harrisonburg, VA)        
FWIW.............

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My '79 Filter Flo does not spray rinse through the entire spin on Permanent Press. It starts when the water level "resets" during spin drain, and goes for somewhere over a minute (I have never really timed it). My mom had a '93 Hotpoint washer that did spray from reset to the end of the final rinse fill. So, beats me why some did, some didn't....

Extra rinses....yep, sign me up. I have a whole house softener, so a few suds in the rinse are normal. I look for FEW suds, and clear water. I always check on the wash to see if I have enough soap, and then the rinse to see what the water looks like. Typically, for normal dosed loads, I do not need to double rinse at all, thanks to that loooong spin spray rinse BEFORE the rinse itself. I am pretty anal about well rinsed clothes....and do not hesitate to extra rinse. Same with my Miele... :)


Post# 414793 , Reply# 8   2/12/2010 at 16:28 (5,185 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

I might still have some GE knobs around, I'll check tomorrow.

Post# 414794 , Reply# 9   2/12/2010 at 16:31 (5,185 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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Extra rinse Yes makes towels much softer

Post# 414797 , Reply# 10   2/12/2010 at 16:34 (5,185 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
extra rinse needed?

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top loaders,yes. front loaders,no. The one main feature I don't like of the Filter-Flos is the backwash that comes out during the main rinse fill.All the front loaders I've had have shown clear rinse water by the second rinse.No backwash.The top loading Whirlpools with the recirculating brush filter never had that issue. Only the actual GE Filter -Flo units and the Hotpoints had that issue.

Post# 414821 , Reply# 11   2/12/2010 at 17:49 (5,185 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)        

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Actually, The 1967 Kenmore washer with the waterfall filter,
always dumped the suds built up in the filter into the rinse water. I always had wisheed they would have spent alittle more money and gotten the next model up that hsd the self cleaning filter. I rarely, if ever use the second rinse. I use the sears detergent, and it does not suds in my machine ( a GE Profile) and so my rinses come out nice and clear.


Post# 414825 , Reply# 12   2/12/2010 at 18:30 (5,185 days old) by dogboy44 (Los Angeles)        
Yes!

I just like to, couldn't hurt, right?

Post# 414842 , Reply# 13   2/12/2010 at 21:12 (5,185 days old) by strongenough78 (California)        
jons1077......

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I LOVE that machine! I hope I can find one but I doubt I will. I watch the videos you have of it repeatedly.

Post# 414845 , Reply# 14   2/12/2010 at 21:19 (5,185 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        
Extra Rinse...

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In a front-loader always "yes".
When I wash whites, they get another three additional rinses courtesy of the "Short Wash" cycle [Normally W-R-R but I don't add detergent]

In a top-loader I use a 2nd rinse with whites and towels.

BTW I have to disagree that addtional rinsing is a waste of water. My chest breaks out very badly in pimples from the residue of bleach and detergent in white t-shirts. (Yes, I measure and yes, I know what I'm doing).

If my smalls are not well-rinsed, the man-parts and that general area are usually on-fire and itch like the devil.

My skin is very sensitve and I'm suseptible to absorbing poisons through it. This means no cheap (poor quailty) detergents, no excessive chemicals and even hand and body loitions and creams have to be good stuff, or I literally "taste" the chemicals in my mouth. It has been said that if you can't eat it, don't put it on your skin.

In an emergency to fix your washer any simple on-off switch (with an adequate power rating) will do. :-)


Post# 414866 , Reply# 15   2/12/2010 at 22:48 (5,185 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Lots of rinsing!

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I have to say I'm surprised. I figured a lot fewer of you guys would say you used additional rinses. I also never thought about it from a softening standpoint on items such as towels. That's one I'll have to try for sure. I also find I'm pretty sensative to bleach on my whites and without question those get an extra rinse usually with warm water.

Hope to see more responses to this thread! This is great!

Jon


Post# 414871 , Reply# 16   2/12/2010 at 23:02 (5,185 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Anyting I wash with chlorine bleach gets a double rinse unless it is in the Kelvy, or WCI-63 since both of those machines have extraordinary rinse cycles anyway.

F/L Always set of Extra Rinse.

A great option on any machine!


Post# 414923 , Reply# 17   2/13/2010 at 03:47 (5,185 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Another extra rinse fan here too. Toggles, I am with you. If I don't rinse out every bit of soap my skin itches, burns and just ticks me off.
Some detergents are worse than others.
Persil and FOCA powders don't cause itching and rinse very well.


Post# 414929 , Reply# 18   2/13/2010 at 04:40 (5,185 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

Depends on the type and amount of detergent. Generally no for Fab and other controlled sudsing products. Yes if I have prewashed, presoaked or used additional detergent. Sometimes will use extra rinse if I detect bleach odor after the first rinse. The Speed Queen top loader rinses reasonably well and so I am conscious of the amount of water needed for the extra rinse.

Post# 414933 , Reply# 19   2/13/2010 at 05:12 (5,185 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Washing with detergent loosens soil, rinsing a process of dilution rinses soil with the detergent residue away, I most usually double rinse. On a partial load with a low water level I increase the water level at the first spin, no matter how small the load. alr2903

Post# 415075 , Reply# 20   2/13/2010 at 15:24 (5,184 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

No Ge knobs yet, I have Hotpoint knobs. Will those work? Still looking for GE knobs.

Post# 415084 , Reply# 21   2/13/2010 at 15:40 (5,184 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Maybe...not sure though

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I pulled the switch out of the panel. Here's what's printed on the back of it:

ASR 2178-(3)1 (that 3 could be an 8, it wasn't clear)
109B4886G2
1A120VLA?

It has three contacts in the back, only two of which were being used. It allows the knob to turn 90 degrees.


Post# 415095 , Reply# 22   2/13/2010 at 15:58 (5,184 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
part number

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appears to be

WH12X441 which is NLA


Post# 415099 , Reply# 23   2/13/2010 at 16:15 (5,184 days old) by mixfinder ()        
I Confess

I am a confirmed extra rinser. It seems the only way to make lasting peace with a front loader.

Post# 415103 , Reply# 24   2/13/2010 at 16:22 (5,184 days old) by jeffg ()        

Kelly, the constant need for a 2nd rinse usually means a detergent builup on your clothes. Do you match your detergent dosage with your water level, or just put a full scoop in with every load? Also, try running an empty load with hot water and no detergent, and see if the water is still sudsy (means detergent buildup in the washer).

Post# 415105 , Reply# 25   2/13/2010 at 16:24 (5,184 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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both top loaders I owned HAD to have 2nd rinse on practically all the time. My 1978 GE had a weak pump (wouldn't surprise me due to parts shortages the std. capacity pump was put on my 18 pound machine--there was a strike at GE around the time mine was made). The Lady Shredmore didn't have a spray rinse at all between wash & rinse so first rinse was still sudsy. I don't mind using the feature on my Frigidaire front loader since it uses about 1/3 to 1/2 the water my top loaders did with extra rinses.

Post# 415106 , Reply# 26   2/13/2010 at 16:25 (5,184 days old) by jeffg ()        

Jonathan, sorry for the OT question:

Where was your personal pic taken? I'm wondering what the gold Apple records are on the wall.


Post# 415122 , Reply# 27   2/13/2010 at 16:53 (5,184 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Jeff

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That picture was taken at the Hardrock Cafe in Baltimore, MD about 5 years ago.

Post# 415152 , Reply# 28   2/13/2010 at 19:06 (5,184 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Jon beautiful washer ! I like an extra rinse for towels or heavy load of whites.
But with your G.E. with a long spray rinse maybe you don't need it with regular loads.
Peace to you.




Darren k.


Post# 415171 , Reply# 29   2/13/2010 at 20:23 (5,184 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Here's a confusing one for you......I have 2 Maytag digital stacked washer/dryers....Model LSE1000

bought both off craigslist......my latest find spin/spray rinses for both spins....one does, one does not....ODD....just never seen a maytag spray on the last spin

extra rinse not available for this model........but since it is a one speed model, I can select permanent press, and increase the last spin time....which works out about the same....good for towels, and really dirty laundry...


Post# 415177 , Reply# 30   2/13/2010 at 20:27 (5,184 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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as for your switch replacement....go to an electrical supply store....take your old switch and knob with you....and they'll match a switch that will fit the machine and knob, and the same 90 degree turn.....

did this with a dryer switch that was NLA.....8 bucks later, and I was in action again....

just a thought


Post# 415180 , Reply# 31   2/13/2010 at 20:36 (5,184 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Suds in Rinse Water

I use liquid Tide HE or Sears powdered HE and use the recommmended dose, about 2 tablspoons. Being a Maytag I have no way of looking inside to see suds. The greatest difference I see in the texture or feel. With the front loader my SO began to break out with contact dermatitis from the sheets, towels and at his waist band. The extra rinse solved the issue. I happened into the room with the Maytag as it was doing it's last regular rinse. There were 17 minutes remaining. The washer sped up like trying to spin but the pump didn't activate. It made a lot of water and clothing noise which I suppose makes it efficient in moving water through the clothes. I was only surprised to hear it because it sounded as if it was trying to do two things at once.

Post# 415183 , Reply# 32   2/13/2010 at 20:58 (5,184 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Yogi,

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Thanks for the idea about the electrical store. I'll give that a shot and also will swing by the old Maytag store down the street. Sometimes they have older parts laying around.

As far as the digital Maytags, I'm surprised one of those is 1-speed. Interesting about the spray rinses too. Only the Kenmore and my 1-18 do a spray rinse during the final spin. It doesn't seem like much but I find it helps get some of that softener off the clothes too.

Kelly, those are great looking Maytags there! Too bad they never put windows on those!

Jon


Post# 415188 , Reply# 33   2/13/2010 at 21:19 (5,184 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I happened into the room with the Maytag as it was doing it's last regular rinse. There were 17 minutes remaining. The washer sped up like trying to spin but the pump didn't activate. It made a lot of water and clothing noise which I suppose makes it efficient in moving water through the clothes. I was only surprised to hear it because it sounded as if it was trying to do two things at once.
This is intentional behavior, one of the changes put in place on later models to help flush the outer tub and boot to ward-off residue and that gnasty mold/mildew stuff. As I recall, the retrofit kit for older models (new boot, etc.) included a control board with the changed programming.


Post# 415198 , Reply# 34   2/13/2010 at 22:32 (5,184 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Digital Maytags 1-speed

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Jon, those are the stacked washer-dryer, top load. They were of the "fabric-matic" style. Even the original mechanical versions were the same way.

Post# 415201 , Reply# 35   2/13/2010 at 23:07 (5,184 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Extra rinse? Of course!!

Post# 415207 , Reply# 36   2/13/2010 at 23:18 (5,184 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Do I use the "2nd rinse" option?

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In a top loader no (unless I over suds it by mistake), but in a front loader, ALWAYS! They use so little water that (I think) they do a poor job of rinsing.

Kevin


Post# 415212 , Reply# 37   2/13/2010 at 23:26 (5,184 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Gansky

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I got to get one of those agitators! Love the ramps!



Post# 415368 , Reply# 38   2/14/2010 at 13:31 (5,184 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Hardly ever.

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With the Frigidaires, it unnecessary and a real waste of water. In the KM/WP's, a faint scent of Lilac Tide remains; and since scent is a must for me, it's great that the WP/KM's don't snuff it all out, less tight spinning, ya know. Very satisfying.

But I do love playing with all of the controls and using them as uch as possible, so......

I do confess to going up to a sleeping machine, the GE and the WP are my usual targets, and turning the extra rinse switch (GE) or pressing its button (WP), and watching the magic as they sit all quiet for a bit, and then click and whoosh, here comes the water. Then I just morph it into whatever cycle the waiting load needs.

My new washer guru, John Combo, insists that over-rinsing is bad for the machine's longevity, but I don't have the material mastered yet, so I'll let him explain if he's of a mind to it.

It involves total removal of lubricants which promote early corrosions of metal and mechanicals.

Speaking of GE rinse dials, I have an extra one. Your welcome to it. Light as a feather, it will cost pennies to send. It's so small I'll have to find a nice little troll coffin to send it in ;->


Post# 415370 , Reply# 39   2/14/2010 at 13:50 (5,184 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
MikeyD,

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What would I do without you??? Gosh you are the nicest! I really appreciate that so much.

As far as the shortened life of a machine due to extra rinsing, I would imagine it would take years and years of non-stop extra rinsing to actually cause damage of that sort. But who knows?

I always sort of thought the GE Filter-Flos would do slightly better rinsing just with the simple fact that it's a water hog and could better dilute detergents, etc.

Jon


Post# 415700 , Reply# 40   2/15/2010 at 10:55 (5,183 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Mold and MIldew? Oh, No!!

Thank you so much for the insight. I am coming to a place of agreement with the front loaders and the results are acceptable. The 806 stands in the corner waiting to get back to work again.

Post# 415704 , Reply# 41   2/15/2010 at 11:36 (5,183 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
" years and years of non-stop extra rinsing to actually

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You are too funny Johnny.

I only have your old address, not the new Portland one.

Get it to me toute de suite and you'll have a nice shiny extra rinse switch by Friday to begin your experiment of "The Holy Perpetual Rinse."


Post# 416838 , Reply# 42   2/19/2010 at 13:24 (5,179 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Pretend it's yesterday

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I wrote this on my way out--just like now--and forgot to press the post buzzer.

It's almost Friday, Johnny. Is your hand starting to twitch, itchin' to turn that extra rinse dial? "The mail must go through."


Post# 416865 , Reply# 43   2/19/2010 at 14:53 (5,179 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Mickey,

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Of course my hand's twitching! I've got a load of whites that need bleach and extra rinsing! I'm not sure how much longer I can hang on!!!



Post# 416901 , Reply# 44   2/19/2010 at 16:53 (5,178 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Did today's mail arrive yet?

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;'D

Post# 417244 , Reply# 45   2/20/2010 at 23:14 (5,177 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Mike,

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I did get the knob you sent in the mail today. Thank you so much! However, I hate to say this but it's the actually switch I need. hehe...the part behind the panel. So if you need that knob for one of your machines I don't mind sending it back to you. I really do appreciate you doing that. Really so very nice of you! I'll locate a switch one of these days so no worries.

Jon


Post# 417246 , Reply# 46   2/20/2010 at 23:56 (5,177 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Hardly Ever...

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...I carefully measure detergent (original Oxydol), and I very seldom use chlorine bleach since my partner died; it's not needed for its disinfecting abilities these days. OxiClean is pretty much sufficient now.

I have some skin sensitivity issues, but they're not centered around laundry products, and maybe that has something to do with my perception that I don't need a double rinse. I tend to trust good appliances to do their thing; I've never felt a need to micro-manage them the way my partner did. Now, there was a double rinser!

Me, I like a nice clean machine with a decent set of features, then I like to measure the products I'm using, then I want to set the cycle and walk away, blessing the sound of the machine doing the work while I do something else.


Post# 417319 , Reply# 47   2/21/2010 at 10:10 (5,177 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
G'day, Mister Shinn

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This is Sister Mary Dominatrix. Michael can't come to the phone right now because he's standing in the corner wearing The Dunce Cap for his tomfoolery.
He will reach you later. LOL.


Post# 417360 , Reply# 48   2/21/2010 at 13:30 (5,177 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Mike,

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:-)

Post# 417376 , Reply# 49   2/21/2010 at 15:47 (5,176 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
Extra Rinse....?....

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In a Maytag, with its solid 1 minute spray rinse coupled with a custom 3 minute deep rinse cycle? SmiliesFTW.com

Post# 417478 , Reply# 50   2/22/2010 at 00:18 (5,176 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Absolutely

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extra rinse every time for me

Post# 417481 , Reply# 51   2/22/2010 at 00:35 (5,176 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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On my Electrolux by default it's 2 rinses, but you know me, my default is for 3!


Post# 953192 , Reply# 52   8/17/2017 at 08:23 (2,443 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
"WARM Second (or Extra) Rinse!"

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Not even a load that I HAVE to do this with, as a rule I DON'T!

And not just an EXTRA RINSE but an Extra (or Second) WARM RINSE...

Which is too bad that is only available with a Warm WASH, so some other time I will have to do a Hot Wash, and then go back to change the Temperature Selector's Rinse to Warm...

Yes, these clothes are going to feel VERY WARM,--EVEN HOT!--coming out, so just for kicks, show us yours...

Here is mine:


-- Dave


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Post# 953201 , Reply# 53   8/17/2017 at 09:01 (2,443 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Ooh, look how BUSY SHE IS!!!!

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Here she is, hard at work & needing more water & gas, jus' doin' 'er job, not just a Second Rinse but a Second (or Extra) SPIN:

Stuff'll be pretty tepid, comin' out, too...


-- Dave


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Post# 953209 , Reply# 54   8/17/2017 at 09:43 (2,443 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK)        

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I don't use extra rinse, saving the planet here! lol


Post# 953222 , Reply# 55   8/17/2017 at 11:17 (2,443 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Selected an extra rinse on front-loaders when liquid chlorine bleach was involved; otherwise no.

I've found no reason to use an extra rinse with the top-loading Speed Queen---even with loads given a dose of bleach.

Aside: I'm filling the SQ with warm or hot water on the Heavy Duty cycle, then cancelling and selecting the Normal Eco cycle more often than I thought I would. I get a hot wash but cut way back on the total gallons used. Win-win! Now that I have to watch every gallon or risk overwhelming the Culligan switch-out tank, I've lost my fear of the much-maligned Normal Eco cycle. Never, ever with loads of bleached kitchen/personal whites, of course.

I've been washing loads of bath towels with Rosalie's Zero Suds and even those are doing fine on the Normal cycle.


Post# 953223 , Reply# 56   8/17/2017 at 11:18 (2,443 days old) by gredmondson (San Francisco, California 94117 USA)        

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Extra rinse here, too, and the fastest spin speed available.

Post# 953234 , Reply# 57   8/17/2017 at 12:16 (2,443 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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With front load washers, yes I do an extra rinse, always have with FL's.  The little 18 year old Miele does 4 rinses by default with no option for more and I'm fine with that.

 

When using an older top load (non h.e.) washer however, I do not do extra rinses, UNLESS... I added way too much detergent (only happened once) or what I'm washing was SUPER dirty.  Just can't wrap my head around all the water they use, especially when filling the tub 3 times, plus the spray rinse.

 

Kevin  


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Post# 953235 , Reply# 58   8/17/2017 at 12:19 (2,443 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK)        

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I don't think anyone needs several rinses? I mean.. no offence but my laundry comes out fresh and clean.. No detergent residue or anything. I'm using an importen US/Australian TL washer, it first sprays the laundry in the rinse and then fills with water and that counts as one rinse. It looks like a lot of water having grown up with only FL washers but I do love a TL! Which are so hard to find in Europe 


Post# 953252 , Reply# 59   8/17/2017 at 15:05 (2,443 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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1) Calypso - don't use it much, usually for chlorine bleach on whites.

2) Neptune TL - a little more often but not on every load, always with bleach.

3) Intuitive Eco - sets per cycle to either of whatever is the default rinse, or two choices for Shower Rinse (if that isn't the default).

4) Intuitive Eco - four choices for default rinse on all cycles, except some cycles are "hardwired" for Double Deep.  Muddy cycle runs two deep rinses and sprays in the final spin, plus a prewash (four water changes plus the sprays).

5) Whirlpool Gold - used Extra Rinse once that I recall.


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Post# 953258 , Reply# 60   8/17/2017 at 16:03 (2,442 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Largely on loads of towels and personal whites.  Otherwise, no. 


Post# 953264 , Reply# 61   8/17/2017 at 16:45 (2,442 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Yes, please

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I always second rinse. Period.

Post# 953277 , Reply# 62   8/17/2017 at 17:19 (2,442 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Top load, extra rinse?

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I'm with APPNUt, 2 rinses for towels and anything that I used bleach on, whites. Almost nothing else.

Post# 953280 , Reply# 63   8/17/2017 at 17:31 (2,442 days old) by gregingotham (New York)        
no

i agree with Mickeyd...in a Frigidaire 1-18 you don't need a second rinse. Many times after the initial rinse during the spin, the rinse water of the deep rinse is pretty clear. Then they get another spray during the final spin. That's enough!

Post# 953295 , Reply# 64   8/17/2017 at 20:12 (2,442 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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The Asko rinses 4 times anyway and the Miele does 3...I'm happy with both.


Post# 953297 , Reply# 65   8/17/2017 at 20:25 (2,442 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
I'm a bit

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Surprised at the vigour with which some here are asserting how the rest of us are to rinse. You do what you like and leave me and my double rinse alone!

Post# 953314 , Reply# 66   8/17/2017 at 21:36 (2,442 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
With H-Axis washers

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Several rinses has always been the norm. Though modern units can get away with two or three (maybe four) thanks to fact most extract after main wash and between each rinse. Washers of old (h-axis) such as my old Miele often only gave a short pulse spin between second and or third rinse, then a full spin before final. This often meant four, five or more rinses.

Older "washers" only where laundry was transferred to an extractor also had four or more rinses for same reason.

My AEG Lavamat even on "normal" with four rinses does better than the older Miele, again largely because it spins after wash and between rinses. Oddly if one chooses "Sensitive" then there are two deep rinses, spin, then three or four more rinses (cannot recall offhand). What gets me about the AEG Oko-Lavamat is the machine allots one hour or a bit more for rinsing and final spin drying.

Top loading washers since they use high dilution detergents shouldn't require more than one or two rinses. Use of chlorine bleach or some other chemicals may change that a bit.

Of course when laundry was or is being done with soap several rinses (with a few in hot or boiling water) were the norm; but that was more about getting all that soap out of washing. Then came bluing, and maybe starching as well.


Post# 953324 , Reply# 67   8/17/2017 at 22:53 (2,442 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

OCD, me?

at least 4 rinses on maximum water level before the final rinse with 2 or 3 capfuls of softener.

Sorry, i'm latin... if my clothes don't look like rubber and people notice i'm arriving just because of the fabric softener smell, it's not ok.

Add to the formula for a perfect wash: 2 capfuls of scent booster and 3 or 4 or 10 dryer sheets.

Then half bottle of wrinkle release spray per load (not because of the wrinkles, but to make sure the scent is there)

I have no idea why Darryl starts sneezing and coughing (crying sometimes) and the cats run to the neighbor's house (next block) when i'm drying my loads.

Ps. I love those 5-load bottles of Downy that come with a tap. Darryl insists the manufacturer says 175 loads.


Post# 953327 , Reply# 68   8/17/2017 at 23:00 (2,442 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
I

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Bet those who oppose extra rinses would be surprised at what they discovered if they gave their clothes one sometime. Again, though -those here saying there is no need to double rinse are trying to force their will on the rest of us and need to keep that for dirty laundry.

Post# 953347 , Reply# 69   8/18/2017 at 03:53 (2,442 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Launderess-- I grew up with a mom who used bluing for all loads of whites. She'd dilute a few drops in a half-cup of water and pour it in the timed dispenser of our Kenmore. It was fun to watch the blue appear during rinse fill--which was programmed as warm on most cycles of our machine. She dissolved Argo starch in very hot water and added some something called Satina (I think). It was a little solid, blue chunk she'd break off a bar of the stuff; supposedly made ironing starched items easier.

Edit: Found a photo of Satina via Google.



Post# 953349 , Reply# 70   8/18/2017 at 04:12 (2,442 days old) by potatochips ( )        

Normally no, unless it's very dirty clothes or bleached items.

Post# 953363 , Reply# 71   8/18/2017 at 07:41 (2,442 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

I ALWAYS go for extra rinsing. If I've used chlorine bleach, I actually send the machine round on a second wash cycle with fresh detergent, learned the hard way (skin allergy reaction) how important it is to do that.

Post# 953364 , Reply# 72   8/18/2017 at 07:44 (2,442 days old) by Helicaldrive (St. Louis)        
Always

If enough detergent is used to get clothes clean, then one rinse is never sufficient and the first rinse water is always too cloudy. I wouldn't want my clothes to get dingy from insufficient rinsing. And presumably the rebound odor some people complain about in their exercise clothes is due to bacteria setting up housekeeping in the excess unrinsed detergent residue (not to mention fabric softener). BTW Persil rinses out much easier than Tide. JMO

I switched to the FL so I don't have to feel guilty about using too much water to do extra rinses.

I especially like to do extra rinses on blue jeans. I like to buy them rigid and rinse them well so they fade brightly and do not have that grungy undertone that today's pre-washed jeans tend to have. Again JMO.

(And I'll never understand wearing jeans more than once so the whiskers fade in a pattern, thus advertising that the wearer has crotch odor. Gross)


Post# 953371 , Reply# 73   8/18/2017 at 08:40 (2,442 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
2nd

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Yes, sometimes no. Will make the A608 do several spray rinses.

Agree 100% with Helicaldrive.



Post# 953382 , Reply# 74   8/18/2017 at 09:17 (2,442 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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It's a rarity that I do a second rinse, only in a suds-lock situations. I find the faster the washer spins (rpm speed wise) between the wash and the rinse, the clearer the rinse water has a tendency to be. Solid tubs I find are superior are rinsing IMO, once the suds and dirty water is thrown over the top into the outer tub it never can come in contact with that wash load again. Perforated tub machines can sometimes reintroduce the suds in the rinse, especially if they have suds-locked and then I will do a second rinse.

Post# 953434 , Reply# 75   8/18/2017 at 14:37 (2,442 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Robert is right on..

Basically the new HE washers don't rinse worth anything in my opinion, especially front loaders, they can be run thru 3 or 4 rinses and still have suds, if you don't use water in the first place you cant rinse out the soap!, Solid tub machines with a overflow rinse ARE far superior, especially Frigidaire, Kelvinator, Norge etc.

Post# 953499 , Reply# 76   8/19/2017 at 05:00 (2,441 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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In addition to perforated tubs, recirculating filtering systems can also reintroduce some suds into rinses. The first shot of water that came through the filter of our 1960 Kenmore often contained suds. The coin-op GE Filter-Flo in the laundry room of my freshman dorm did the same, but to a lesser extent as I recall. The worst offender, though, was my 1986 Frigidaire.

Post# 953502 , Reply# 77   8/19/2017 at 05:12 (2,441 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
This conversation is interesting to one

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So many new owners of H-axis washing machines often report their first or even several washings can be done adding detergent for the amount of previous residue.

Post# 953507 , Reply# 78   8/19/2017 at 06:55 (2,441 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        

I just let my machine calculate the rinses itself.

If the load is 'in balance' for interim spins, and minimal suds, the machine will default to two rinses.

If suds clog the machine, an extra rinse is added. If not able to achieve balance and thus aborting the spin (on the rinse), an extra rinse is added.

I think the optical sensor also has a degree of say in the calculation. Heavy zeolite powders seem to get an extra rinse, even if they're not foamy.

These 'extra' rinses are strange beasts. The water flow is through the pre-wash dispenser compartment, then the water flow is switched to the usual main-wash compartment, drum filling to normal low-level. The extra rinse last about three minutes, drains (no spinning), then immediately into next 'normal' rinse fill.



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