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Second Generation Bosch Nexxt Line Released |
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Post# 74379   7/21/2005 at 03:21 (6,825 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Bosch has started to release the second generation of their "Nexxt" washer and dryer line. New to the line up are lower priced models (Essence) and higher end (more bells and whistles), line (DLX). Besides some cycle changes on various models, and probably a few bugs and kinks worked out, it looks like Bosch did not tamper much with their very popular laundry line up. It has been reported that Bosch has also increased production at their North Carolina factory where these units are made. If these units weren't so darn "deep" (almost 32")I'd have one in a New York minute. Seems a shame Maytag had to import Samsung units instead of putting the R&D into a product like Bosch did. This is probably one of the reasons Maytag is going under. Launderess CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK |
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Post# 74474 , Reply# 2   7/21/2005 at 20:24 (6,825 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)   |   | |
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I've had one for about 1 1/2 now and its great. I did take some getting use to. I had the old neptune 3000, then 7500 and they were not as picky about what kind of soap I used. The bosch is picky and will turn its knobs up at anything other than he and powder cheer. The cheer I have to be very stingy with. Once I got past that it now sails thru wash day flawlessly. Differences between the 3200 and 6400? Not much. Spin speed, a few different cycle options and the display. The only other notable difference is the 6400 is suppose to use 1/2 to 1 gallon less water because it has a pressure switch and flow meter. The 3200 only has a pressure switch. Just my .64 cent worth |
Post# 74512 , Reply# 3   7/21/2005 at 23:40 (6,825 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 74702 , Reply# 4   7/22/2005 at 21:30 (6,824 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 79473 , Reply# 5   8/21/2005 at 14:08 (6,794 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 79649 , Reply# 6   8/22/2005 at 20:11 (6,793 days old) by jmirawm (Barling Arkansas)   |   | |
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There was a window in that dryer ! |
Post# 79662 , Reply# 7   8/22/2005 at 21:21 (6,793 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 81502 , Reply# 9   9/4/2005 at 03:56 (6,780 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 81519 , Reply# 11   9/4/2005 at 10:00 (6,780 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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IIRC all Bosch Nexxt washers had internal heaters from the start. Difference was how hot they heated water, with the TOL model offerng a "Sanitary" option of 160F I believe. Bosch made a selling point of it's models that they used the "proper" water temp for various fabrics and held that temp thoughout the wash cycle. Unlike many other washers, Nexxt machiens did not rely on "ATC" but used the heater to reach and maintain water temp. In theory one cold hook up a Bosch Nexxt (using a Y connector) to cold water only and achieve a "profile wash", but at 120v power that might take awhile. Have the original first generation manuals somewhere, will look this up, but am almost 100 percent sure there were heaters in both the basic and TOL Nexxt washers. Launderess |
Post# 81529 , Reply# 12   9/4/2005 at 11:46 (6,780 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Yes Launderess, you are right, all Bosch Nexxt models had internal water heaters from the start. The new models are an addition to the original line, the current machines are not a second generation. They started with the 3200 and the Premium 6400, the Essence 2100 and the DLX 4300 were added later.
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Post# 81558 , Reply# 13   9/4/2005 at 18:05 (6,780 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)   |   | |
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The nexxt models have a profile wash already. You have to choose the "power wash" option. Also if you choose the pre-soak with the "normal wash" option it will fill with cold and heat. It makes a world of difference when you have a pile of wash with a varity of different stains. Set it and forget it.
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Post# 81643 , Reply# 15   9/5/2005 at 10:21 (6,779 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)   |   | |
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Post# 81723 , Reply# 17   9/5/2005 at 16:29 (6,779 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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No, one cannot set the older Bosch Nexxt units for "rinse and spin". One of the reasons besides their size they went lower on my list. For those that belittle the cycle, "rinse and spin" is not only good for refreshing items that have been say in storage, but is also great for: use as a starching cycle removing excess detergent when a full cycle even with extra rinses did not. "flushing" laundry - a sort of quick pre-wash to remove muck/grime. And so on. Didn't know Miele ditched this cycle as well on their newest models. Shame. Just so everyone knows, at least on the older Bosch Nexxt washers, one could set them up with a "Y" connector and control water temp from the supply side. This would enable a "warm" soak if one wished. When we spoke with a Bosch CR rep on these units when they first came out, apparently Nexxt washers use "ATC" to activate the heater on cycles to maintain/heat water to the proper temp. The washers do not monitor incoming water temp the way other do with ATC to either add hot or cold water to achieve a set incoming water temp. If this is still true it opens up a world of options including "warm" rinses. Launderess |
Post# 81746 , Reply# 18   9/5/2005 at 18:33 (6,779 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Two things that bug me about the Bosch: You don't have a choice on the more deicate cycles of makking a choice that begins with warm wash & you opt. for cold and vice versa. I don't know why but these kinda cool set temps just don't seem quite high enought to me Hot 125 (that's just over "Medium" in 1950 & 1960 washer) and to get hotter I have to select Boosted Hot Warm 95 sounds almost tepid to me Cold 60, sounds almost too cold. These temps sound perfect for the PermPress cycle but I wish the set points for the regular cycle were about 5 or so degrees higher like on Hetties. |
Post# 89934 , Reply# 21   10/21/2005 at 04:29 (6,733 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Hello Dominik, I'm a bit shocked that you misspelled Constructa! LOL Yes, it's great that Bosch is going to sell the mega frontloaders in Europe too now, but I think it is stupid that they are not selling the matching dryers. A big capacity frontloader doesn't really help if you don't have a dryer that can handle those loads. BTW, did you ever have a look at the V-Zug website? |
Post# 89945 , Reply# 22   10/21/2005 at 07:36 (6,733 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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I love Kai's washer site! Nice link. That Louis LOVES his V-Zug! Maybe someday he'll finally take me to the factory yes? Hope you get a used Miele soon, it would be real fun to work on one of those and play with it. And OFCOURSE Louis I'd love to play with any V-Zug! Louis , bring over with you next summer,AL would love you more for that! |
Post# 89957 , Reply# 23   10/21/2005 at 09:43 (6,733 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Jon, I'm actually just as curious after V-Zug as you are. I only used a V-Zug set once and that was an older Adorina set. BTW, I never heard back from the V-Zug guy I mailed with. So no further details about their first frontloader. Dominik, here's the link to my picture album, that contains pictures of my appliances. CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK |
Post# 90164 , Reply# 25   10/22/2005 at 21:13 (6,732 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Dominik, Bosch has two different lines sold here in the U.S. One is the Axxis line, which is very similiar to the product found in Europe. It's the same size as European models and also uses 240v power source and is connected to cold water only. The Bosch Nexxt line is produced here in the U.S. The range goies from an 11 cycle/900 rpm model to a 15 cycle/1200 rpm model. These require only 120v electricity, the type found in almost virtually all U.S. household laundry facilities. These do connect to the central hot water supply. The Bosch user manual suggest the temperature for the hot water supply be 120 degrees F. There are those of us who think Integrated Heating is wonderful for a fornt load washer. The feature allows the wash water temperature to be maintained at the specified temperature as well as allows gradual heating from warm to hot or very hot (155 degrees F) to clean various types of stains & soils in the same load. Bosch is the only U.S. produced front loader with heater that offers a true profile wash option (called PowerWash). The machine fills with cold water and heats to the specified temererature of the cycle. Only negative is because of the 120v power source, it's slow in heating and a cycle can take over 3 hours. But the results are spectacular. Incidentally, many in the U.s. keep their hot water supply set at 120 to 130 degrees F to save on energy bills. Until energy became so expensive, it aws common for the water supply to be set at 140 to 160 degrees F.
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Post# 90594 , Reply# 29   10/25/2005 at 06:33 (6,729 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Dominik, Velo is indeed a Dutch manufacturer, but they don't make this model anymore. Don't waste your money on new Velo machines, they don't come even close to the quality Miele makes. One of the members of the "Waschmaschinen-forum" had a very disappointing experience with a Velo washer. Here's the link to their website. Just have a look, don't buy!!! LOL CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK |
Post# 90595 , Reply# 30   10/25/2005 at 06:42 (6,729 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Now about AEG. Although I prefer Miele washers I have a weak spot for the AEG label. I still like AEG machines, although they are now sold as AEG by Electrolux I still think they make decent machines. The TOL range is still quite a good washer I think. This is my second AEG Öko Lavamat, it's a 6450 with 1200rpm. The previous one was a 625 with 1000rpm. I'm not sure which model your grandmother had, did her washer already have the round pushbuttons? If so, it could have been a 600, 610 or 615. If her's still had the square pushbuttons I would dive into my archives to see if I can find an older brochure. I'm linking another picture album, there are more pictures in this one, but they are only small sized. There are scans of old brochures there, some of them even in German. Enjoy the pictures and don't hesitate to ask questions. CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK |
Post# 90944 , Reply# 31   10/27/2005 at 14:48 (6,727 days old) by spee_man ()   |   | |
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It had square push buttons. I must have been a 530 or so. |
Post# 90945 , Reply# 32   10/27/2005 at 15:07 (6,727 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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Spee man, Here is a break down of my last electric bill. This will give you an idea of how much electricity costs in Philadelphia. From September 12 to October 11, 685 kWh 05.18 Customer Charge 41.65 Generation and Transmission Charges(.0608 X 685 kWh) 05.08 Wind Energy Service Charge(.0254 X 200 kWh) 30.41 Distribution Charges 17.33 Transition Charges ------ 99.65 Total Basic Charges for 685 kWh -0.39 State Tax Adjustment ------ 99.26 Total That comes out to about $0.145 per kWh (99.26/685) The Wind Energy Surcharge is an optional charge I pay so that 200kWh of energy each month comes from wind generation. It offsets the difference in cost between wind and traditional energy generation. Joe |