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Post# 418759   2/26/2010 at 14:01 (5,143 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana)        

I have been doing a little research and I have found that Frigidaire only regulates the hot setting to 100 degrees, warm and cold are normal, whereas Whirlpool regulates everything.
Also I have been wondering, is this temp. regulation taking place in the water value, or the temp selector switch? Would it be possible to install a replacement valve from an older machine to get true temps and not the regulated ones?





Post# 418764 , Reply# 1   2/26/2010 at 14:39 (5,143 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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depending on where the temp sensor is located, sometimes you can unplug the unit, and get unregulated water...

models vary


Post# 418780 , Reply# 2   2/26/2010 at 16:44 (5,143 days old) by favorit ()        
"energy star" is missing the righ planets ;)

I assume 100°F as warm. To me hot is 140°F

I understand the culprit of this situation is that "energy star" crusade.

What I can't understand is why they attack just washers. They are hitting the wrong target and ignoring the actual energy hogs (aka electric dryers and electric water heaters)

Go figure that a load in the electric dryer draws the same amount of power required to wash the same load *three* times @ 140°F starting from a cold fill only.

Say it in another way, everytime you'll line-dry, you'll save enough power to wash the load you have just hanged up 3 times @ 140°F starting from tap cold water


Post# 418877 , Reply# 3   2/26/2010 at 21:55 (5,143 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
ENERGY USE IN WASHERS

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You can't compare washers with dryers on energy use anymore than you can cars and dishwashers they do very different things. We are starting to use heat pump electric water heaters here they are the only ones with an energy star rating. We also have gas dryers here that emit a fraction of the carbon dioxide that electric dryers do when the electricity is produced by burning fossil fuels. We do a lot of things wrong in the US but we also do a lot of things well our refrigerators are much more effencent per cubic of space than almost any where in the world.

Post# 418917 , Reply# 4   2/27/2010 at 04:19 (5,143 days old) by favorit ()        
"you can't compare..."

John,
that's obvious, we can't say a washer is more energy efficient than a dryer. I was pointing out that electricity is the less efficient mean to heat water and air.

My concern is about the approach : if those stringent codes make 105°F water hot, what's next ? The "bone dry" setting will give wet clothes ?

Why the energy star rating doesn't apply to dryers too ?
IMHO they should encourage solar, heat pump and gas water heaters, gas dryers and high speed spin washers and allow more individual common sense rather than dumbing down appliances effectiveness

I mean : suppose you live in a southern state with 365 sunny days per year and you have installed a solar water heater. Solar in a sunny place means true carbon dioxide free. As your water is heated in a efficient way, why should you give up a toploader ?




Post# 418952 , Reply# 5   2/27/2010 at 09:53 (5,142 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
ENERGY EFFICIENCY

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With the new administration we are starting to work on these things. We are at least 25 years behind because of the Reagan administration followed by 12 years of Bushes.

Post# 419036 , Reply# 6   2/27/2010 at 17:55 (5,142 days old) by favorit ()        
Heating water with servers

We too are on late compared to nothern EU. Up there they have a different frame of mind. They actually think "green"

Since 2007 we made such gigantic steps : go figure that electric solar have had a 800% increase (79 to 700 MW).
The latest trend is geothermal heat pump technology to heat and cool buildings.

Anyway the most unexpected new way to source heat are data centers. Check this blog published by M.I.T. :



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Post# 419789 , Reply# 7   3/2/2010 at 08:14 (5,139 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Energy use

Last evening, I watched The Day After Tomorrow for about the 8th time. I like the movie even though I wonder how people can be living in all of that cold for so long and never seem to have to go to the bathroom and don't look like they have missed more than one shave.

ANYWAY, why I posted was the vice president in that film, constantly debunking the threat of climate change and always putting the economy ahead of science and the welfare of the people and the earth reminds me so much of what has been policy here. It was a shame he survived.

The yahoos here who have been saying that the three major snowstorms we have had disprove climate change have not read that the reason for the unusual weather is that the warmth at the North Pole has blocked the Arctic jet sending it South to make mischief with moisture carried up from the Gulf of Mexico.

In spite of emissions from power plants, I don't want to give up my electric appliances. Maybe with more appreciation for the environment, power generation can be made cleaner. Clothes smell better when dried in my electric dryers than in my gas dryers and I like electric cooking, especially my induction units.



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