Thread Number: 27662
So I've had that little Robert devil sitting on my shoulder |
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Post# 424161   3/22/2010 at 14:52 (5,119 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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-all month. He's been yelling in my ear "RAISE that water level on that new Speed Queen". "Oh it's like washing with Wet-Naps" "Thats not vintage".
on my other shoulder the voice of reason ,"keep the low water level see if it works, try new things save water, follow Speed Queens engineers. Well today I finally gave in to the Robert Devil. I figure I know more about laundry than any engineer out there today! So after much hashing with Jason I doubled the water level. I am proud as it is my first tweek of an electronic system in laundry and it worked!! The new machines are trickier today the pressure switches are more complicated than just backing off one ONE thats 1! screw! There are 5! five FIVE screws on this baby and only 3 used wiring connections! The first attempt didn't work as they have changed the water switch since Jason's small door model. The large door model has a preset unchangeable pivot base. That leaves 4 screws in play, and just what do all those 4 screws do??? |
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Post# 424162 , Reply# 1   3/22/2010 at 14:53 (5,119 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 424163 , Reply# 2   3/22/2010 at 14:54 (5,119 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 424179 , Reply# 3   3/22/2010 at 16:31 (5,119 days old) by JeffG ()   |   | |
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Jon, what model SQ is this? |
Post# 424235 , Reply# 4   3/22/2010 at 21:55 (5,119 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)   |   | |
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Post# 424243 , Reply# 5   3/22/2010 at 22:29 (5,119 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 424282 , Reply# 6   3/23/2010 at 03:53 (5,119 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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and it was big and sloshy! The new water level stays, everything came out rinse fresh!
I'll have video now that I have Premiere loaded up. Well back to that puzzle, there are 4 adjustments you can make- Oh Supersuds is correct on the model number there! AFB50RS BTW now-- there are 4 possible adjustments. On the two contact points of the spider you can back off (turn CCW) the gap so that the spider has to travel farther to make contact. ( This is what you did on those old Singer pressure switches) OR you can stiffen the diaphram but turning in (CW) the two adjustable legs of the spider. Marked "P" on my picture. That makes the spring linkage to the spider stiffer so the diaphram has to push harder to make contact. In order for the diaphram to push harder the water level has to be higher. But there is some timing mechanism in this set up as I first opened the gap on one contact and pushed in on one point and the machine went into a lockdown with both WASH-RINSE lights lit. It wouldn't start stop or begin a cycle. So the board detected something. After playing around I find you have to adjust the contacts or the points in pairs exactly the same amount. And if you see on the schematic two voltages are sensed at the board from this pressure switch not one so there is some kind of comparison going on in the brain of this machine. Jason said he had to adjust his two screws 1/4 turn to raise the water, I find my switch is alittle different on this Wide Door machine and to get water to the door glass I had to make 2 full turns in on the spider adjustable legs. I only backed out the contacts 1/4 turn. So far I think its a wonderful washer easy to operate. It does a long highspeed 1000 rpm spin at the end. And it really sloshes the clothes around. Next week: The Sweatshirt Test! |
Post# 424284 , Reply# 7   3/23/2010 at 03:58 (5,119 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 424285 , Reply# 8   3/23/2010 at 03:59 (5,119 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 424286 , Reply# 9   3/23/2010 at 03:59 (5,119 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Jetcone i am glad you got the machine to work, more to your liking. I think you will be more satisfied with it. alr2903 |
Post# 424288 , Reply# 10   3/23/2010 at 04:10 (5,119 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 424303 , Reply# 11   3/23/2010 at 07:16 (5,118 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 424318 , Reply# 13   3/23/2010 at 08:47 (5,118 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 424324 , Reply# 14   3/23/2010 at 09:25 (5,118 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Mike you big tease! Look at that tsunami! Oh and a ZUG my favorite unseen machine!! I've GOT to smuggle one into this country!!!!
I do have before shots now I must take after shots. I do slosh but not like that Zug can. I must measure but am guessing I went from 2 1/2 gal/fill to 4-5 gal/fill. Malcolm do you have a SQ?? |
Post# 424325 , Reply# 15   3/23/2010 at 09:26 (5,118 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 424329 , Reply# 16   3/23/2010 at 09:35 (5,118 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 424356 , Reply# 17   3/23/2010 at 12:12 (5,118 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 424389 , Reply# 18   3/23/2010 at 15:13 (5,118 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 424394 , Reply# 19   3/23/2010 at 15:28 (5,118 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I need to figure out how to do this to my Affinity. I just crammed in a load of shorts and tee shirts today and was appalled at how little water that machine thought was adequate. It's very rare that I don't have to add more. I am currently adding water manually via 100 oz liquid Tide container, and some loads require filling four of those babies up and dumping them in. It would sure be a lot easier if I could just get the machine to use at least enough water to come up into the bezel and not compromise the spider thingy.
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Post# 424424 , Reply# 20   3/23/2010 at 17:03 (5,118 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 424431 , Reply# 21   3/23/2010 at 17:26 (5,118 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)   |   | |
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Post# 424452 , Reply# 22   3/23/2010 at 18:25 (5,118 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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I just completed updating mine. I didn't go 2 full turns though. I raised the water level to right at the lower edge of the door. Got a load of sheets washing now. The sloshing sound is much more noticable than before. I'll run this way for a week or two and guage performance. Thanks for posting the instructions.
Malcolm |
Post# 424456 , Reply# 23   3/23/2010 at 18:55 (5,118 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 424460 , Reply# 24   3/23/2010 at 19:08 (5,118 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)   |   | |
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Post# 424488 , Reply# 25   3/23/2010 at 21:34 (5,118 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 424495 , Reply# 26   3/23/2010 at 22:15 (5,118 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 424546 , Reply# 27   3/24/2010 at 06:35 (5,117 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 424552 , Reply# 28   3/24/2010 at 07:54 (5,117 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 424586 , Reply# 29   3/24/2010 at 11:36 (5,117 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 424613 , Reply# 30   3/24/2010 at 13:48 (5,117 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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OK, I've read a lot about how easily the spider can be ruined on FL machines. Is it just a sudsing issue and not a water level issue? If that's the case, I will definitely want to increase the water level on my Affinity. The factory settings are absolutely inadequate, and I'm tired of adding water manually in order to effect decent laundering results.
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Post# 424686 , Reply# 31   3/24/2010 at 22:22 (5,117 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 424783 , Reply# 32   3/25/2010 at 12:53 (5,116 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 426219 , Reply# 33   4/1/2010 at 22:24 (5,109 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 426271 , Reply# 34   4/2/2010 at 07:19 (5,108 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 426274 , Reply# 35   4/2/2010 at 07:46 (5,108 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 426299 , Reply# 36   4/2/2010 at 09:19 (5,108 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 426300 , Reply# 37   4/2/2010 at 09:24 (5,108 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 426327 , Reply# 38   4/2/2010 at 12:32 (5,108 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 429384 , Reply# 39   4/17/2010 at 09:28 (5,093 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 875216 , Reply# 40   4/1/2016 at 09:10 (2,917 days old) by fourrivers ()   |   | |
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Jetcone - could you reload the pictures. would help a mite. thanks |