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Thread Number: 27869
Seventh Electric Sink just brought home |
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| Post# 426832 4/4/2010 at 19:43 (5,129 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
I just drove to the north side of Chicago this morning and picked up my latest Electric Sink - a 1951 G.E. Model SE100D16. This is my 5th G.E. Electric Sink and the 7th overall. (All that is left of the very first one, a 1950 G.E., are parts following disassembly in September 2008.)
Overview - It has been used well and put away wet. There is significant rusting underneath the present faucet, paint chips and scratches on the front of the cabinet, nasty water drips down the sides of the cabinet plus paint from past cabinet painting. (Why do people just slop on paint with no regard to protecting the sink?) There are chips on the porcelain top, and small amounts of rust inside the dishwasher tub. The lid spring has fallen apart and portions mission, the lid prop has been replace with a homemade rod, the detergent cup is missing, and most important of all, the drain stopper is missing. What is good: The motor and timer mechanism is intact and in good condition but missing the cover for the fuse block. The original water valve is still there. The impeller is in good shape with only a minor chip. The bottom of the tub is dirty so I am not sure of the exact condition until I do some cleaning. The Bakelite silverware basket is in great condition as well. The tub gasket, around the top of the tub where it mates with the sink top, appears to be in fair condition - only a water test will show its true condition. In 1950, G.E. was still using the uncoated tacks. This 1951 model has a redesigned bottom rack, plus the racks are coated. Over the next week or so, I will be able to get started on the cleanup. I have not yet decided to keep this machine and make it runable again, or part it out. Just depends on what else becomes evident after cleaning and water testing. I have a replacement lid spring and lid prop from the 1950 machine. And I can make a drain stopper. Fabricating a detergent cup would be difficult. I will add more below after I have had time to work on this Electric Sink. Mike 
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| Post# 426834 , Reply# 1 4/4/2010 at 19:44 (5,129 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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| Post# 426835 , Reply# 2 4/4/2010 at 19:44 (5,129 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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| Post# 426861 , Reply# 3 4/4/2010 at 21:11 (5,129 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
i gotta hand it to you mike! | ||
| Post# 426875 , Reply# 4 4/4/2010 at 21:43 (5,129 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm) | ||
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My Peepers is deficient, is chippage of impeller @ about 7 o'clock? | ||
| Post# 426898 , Reply# 5 4/4/2010 at 23:09 (5,129 days old) by A440 () | ||
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What a nice find! You have a knack for these finding you! This one does not look all that bad. What a great part of history you are building! Brent | ||
| Post# 426962 , Reply# 6 4/5/2010 at 07:41 (5,129 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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| Post# 427051 , Reply# 7 4/5/2010 at 18:04 (5,128 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
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mike,
do the impellers that fit the D&M machines work on your electric sinks, especially g.e's?
cause larry in parma still had some left, i bought 2 extra last summer and i also bought one from mark michaels recently. they might have more if you need some extra. they look like the same style impeller from the various pics i have seen of your electric sinks. i also still have that g.e. impeller machine waiting for me to pick up in virginia that i bought off e bay last summer for 20 bucks. i'm hoping if i need to replace the impeller that one of my extra D&M impellers (that my modern maid uses) will also fit this g.e. if needed. thanks | ||
| Post# 427102 , Reply# 8 4/6/2010 at 01:23 (5,128 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Pete:
They may look alike, but they are not intercheangable.
The GE has a half-moon shaped notch in the drive shaft that the impeller slips down over, and held in place with a machine thread screw (see second photo). The D&M impeller was designed to be driven by a ’U’ shaped bracket, or other style bracket to fit the indentation in the inner top of the impeller. Although the D&M only goes on one way - let say only oriented north-south, the true Hotpoint impeller in the second photo can be oriented both north-south and east-west. The Westinghouse is different yet, and rotates clockwise, rather than counterclockwise for the GE, Hotpoint and D&M style. I have not been able to gently get my Homart impeller off, so I don’t know how to describe it. The American Kitchens uses the D&M style impeller as well. Mike Starting top, left, and moving clockwise: D&M, GE, Hotpoint, Westinghouse 
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| Post# 427103 , Reply# 9 4/6/2010 at 01:24 (5,128 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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| Post# 427113 , Reply# 10 4/6/2010 at 05:19 (5,128 days old) by mikepaquette () | ||
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best design of all I would think the Westinghouse would throw the most water. Is there a big difference ? | ||
| Post# 427146 , Reply# 11 4/6/2010 at 08:41 (5,127 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Michael: I have never personally seen the wash action of my Westinghouse, since it is a pull-out machine - so I cannot answer your questions. But given the wide scoop, one would think it has excellent lift and dispersion.
I do know that the impeller in the Homart (photo below) has a similar thick center shaft and flat on top much like the Westinghouse, AND almost no water comes up through the center of the dishwasher (see my YouTube video in the URL link below). Maybe someone else can shed some insight in this matter. Mike CLICK HERE TO GO TO dishwashercrazy's LINK 
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Post# 427197 , Reply# 12 4/6/2010 at 14:24 (5,127 days old) by turquoisedude  (.) |
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Great find, Mike! | ||
| Post# 427998 , Reply# 13 4/10/2010 at 23:31 (5,123 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Cleanup has begun.....
Today (Saturday) I started cleaning up the front panel, and then the dishwasher tub. I have to admit, I thought this machine was just going to end up as parts. But now that I am seeing the results of some scrubbing and general cleaning, I am surprisingly amazed at how good of condition the interior really is.
Here is the tub now. It had just a lot of dirt in the bottom of the tub, and 59 years of food crud buildup that needed to be scrubbed away. And the tub just sparkles. In this photo, I have already applied some porcelain touchup paint around the holes on the back of the tub where the lid hinges mount, plus a couple of porcelain dings along the right edge of the tub along the gasket area. But other than that, it is simply what was underneath of the dirt. The black tub gasket around the top of the tub on the left hand side, had dried and pulled away from the tub a little. Last year, I found a product at my local Do it Best store that has so far worked to stop water leaks down in behind this gasket on two of my other GE Dishwashers. It is called "Do it Best Stix-on all-purpose glue, crystal clear flexible formula". Coming out of the tube, it has a similar consistency as regular super glue, but this glue stays flexible after drying. I have laid a bead of this glue around the parts of the gasket that are pulling away from the tub. 
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| Post# 428000 , Reply# 14 4/10/2010 at 23:35 (5,123 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Cleanup has begun..... | ||
| Post# 428002 , Reply# 15 4/10/2010 at 23:43 (5,123 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Cleanup has begun.....
Lid is back in place. The lid hinge from the donor 1950 Electric Sink/Dishwasher is in place, as well as the lid prop bracket.
The detergent cup is missing and I do not have a replacement one of those - but for testing purposes I can borrow one from the other three GE dishwashers here in my house. I will also have to borrow a drain stopper from one of the other machines as well. I will be able to fabricate one of those. 
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| Post# 428006 , Reply# 16 4/10/2010 at 23:50 (5,123 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Cleanup has begun.....
Next, I will be working to clean up the remainder of the cabinet inside and out, plus start to clean up the underneath side of the tub and motor areas.
As with the other dole water valves, before I even hook the machine up, I am going to disassemble it and make sure it is operational before a full water test. Oh, and the drain stopper lift lever is rusty on the outside, so I am going to take that apart as well to evaluate it and then reseal. I am also going to have to take that water faucet off, and do some repair to the chipped porcelain underneath both hot and cold knobs. 
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| Post# 428058 , Reply# 17 4/11/2010 at 08:55 (5,122 days old) by gmpayne (INDIANAPOLIS, IN) | ||
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Nice machine Mike | ||
| Post# 428070 , Reply# 18 4/11/2010 at 12:12 (5,122 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Post# 428119 , Reply# 19 4/11/2010 at 17:48 (5,122 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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