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1966-67 Kenmore Washer on Ebay |
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Post# 428418   4/13/2010 at 11:45 (5,098 days old) by cycla-fabric (New Jersey (Northern))   |   | |
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Here's another one up on ebay for sale. Located in Mass. Should be saved.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO cycla-fabric's LINK on eBay |
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Post# 428435 , Reply# 1   4/13/2010 at 13:23 (5,098 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Post# 428439 , Reply# 3   4/13/2010 at 13:47 (5,098 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)   |   | |
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BTW When that machine died in 1990, that was the machine that was replaced by a 1990 Kenmore Model 80 Direct-Drive with a Dual Action Agitator. Now, the washer that we have now is a Kenmore Elite Oasis with a Total Care Agitator. --Charles-- |
Post# 428458 , Reply# 4   4/13/2010 at 15:28 (5,098 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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I am not sure what the price would have been. I was recently astonished to see a receipt for a 1961 Kenmore 70 like mine. It was in an owner's manual that I got to go along with my machine. The price was $199.95 I believe, and there was some sort of accessorial charge - maybe a MA (maintenance agreement). This was 1961! These machines cost a LOT more money relatively speaking to a household budget than a top-loader does today.
One thing I found very interesting regarding this model - There was a 1966 machine which was followed by a very similar, not not identical '67. The '66 had five temp combinations like a 70-series, and a Roto-Swirl agitator. The '66 would be slightly easier to use with the 5 temps, but other than that, these machines were pretty darn easy to use, had what most anyone would need, and were less complicated and less expensive than the TOL machines. Gordon |
Post# 428469 , Reply# 6   4/13/2010 at 16:00 (5,098 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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The temperature selections on your grandmother's machine were quite common on Kenmores for years. They were seen often on 400, 500, and 600 models. If a machine didn't have the five combinations, they seemed to have the set-up you had. I don't think that changed until the early 70s when the H/W, W/C, and C/C came out.
As to selling lots of a certain model: I know that Kenmore, like most companies that sell stuff in volume, have "bread and butter" machines - models that they sold lots of, and at a decent margin. These are the machines that paid the bills basically. There were other machines in the line that were price leaders but not big sellers because of lack of features, but there were other machines as well that were high on the food chain and sold for gobbs of money, but didn't sell in volume. For an example, looking back at the final line of belt-drive Kenmores, the 1983 models sold into 1986. The line began with a 60 series, and ended with a Lady K. One of the 1984 catalogs mentions that one of the four 70-series machines was their best selling washer. My exposure to these machines over the last 20-some years would support that, as I've come across 7 of that very model in the last couple months. Somewhere I read that of the four 70-series units, two were low-volume and the other two carried the store, and that for every one Lady sold, 10 (yes, ten) of the two favored 70-series machines were sold. There's the bread and butter! Gordon |
Post# 428535 , Reply# 7   4/13/2010 at 21:10 (5,098 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)   |   | |
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To Gordon..... Thanks for your insight and knowledge.... To James..... There is a 1966-67 Model 60/600 in the link above that Gordon is trying to turn you on to. What do you think about her??? Isn't she a beauty or what??? --Charles-- |
Post# 428611 , Reply# 10   4/14/2010 at 00:21 (5,098 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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Once I saw the black straight vaned agitator, the same one Mrs Brunner had, I knew this for sure was the clone to her washer. Have a good one, James |
Post# 428631 , Reply# 11   4/14/2010 at 03:05 (5,098 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)   |   | |
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My Mother had the identical washer. I think they paid $249.99.
It needed a repair the first time we used it as it agitated twice on the "Normal" cycle rinse, and then drained. My mother did'nt like the agitator either, "as it did'nt move the clothes like my old machine" so we swapped out the old roto-swirl from the old machine, and kept it. At 7 years old, it developed a burnt spot on the motor and would ocassionally have to be turned by the belt, until it started. Shortly after that I moved back home with my 60's Norge with the burp-a-lator, and the Kenmore got rightfully dumped. I shed no tears at the time, because one of the times I used it, and had to "crank start it" as it were, it almost ran my fingers through the pulley. So again, I shen no tears. LOL |
Post# 428667 , Reply# 14   4/14/2010 at 09:33 (5,097 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Charles -
Back in the 60's there wasn't a great big gradient in price between one model and the next - maybe $5 or $10 each step-up, etc. The reason for that is that 10-bucks bought a lot more than it does today. There is more markup in a TOL machine by far than a BOL, but if yours started at $120, then a Lady probably wasn't more than $250 or $275 or so, with all the bells and whistles. As to the receipt I have for the '61 - remember that there was 6 or 7 years of rising prices in between 1961 and 1967, and there isn't a great deal of cost difference (I mean manufacturing cost) between a 70 series and a 600. A three level pressure switch and an infinite one cost the same to make, so the differences between the two would lead to a simlar base cost but a larger profit margin for Sears on the higher priced unit. Also, it is important to note that while many of us bought machines on sale for $60, $70, even $100 off, some other people may not if the model they wanted wasn't on sale, etc. I have a 1967 catalog, I should just check, but those prices are relative because they don't include freight, and are not sale prices either. My '86 is in the catalog for $449, but I purchased it for $358 delivered. Randy - The Kenmores were fairly consistent in everything but the TOL models throughout most of the 60s. Styling changed year to year almost, but the specs and features generally didn't. So this machine other than the water temps, is essentially identical mechanically to yours. I wish they had the more colorful consoles of the early 60s, but I guess that gives the 61, 62, and 63 models their charm today. Gordon |
Post# 428684 , Reply# 15   4/14/2010 at 10:30 (5,097 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)   |   | |
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Gosh!!!! Look at that 1963 Kenmore Model 600. She cleaned up pretty nicely, didn't she. She sure looks gorgeous now, doesn't she??? And she's still churning away two months later, right??? --Charles-- |
Post# 428890 , Reply# 17   4/14/2010 at 23:40 (5,097 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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I just had to post the ad pics into the thread so they could be preserved. It is the first time doing this, so I hope I did this right. What a beauty. |
Post# 428891 , Reply# 18   4/14/2010 at 23:41 (5,097 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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Money shot. Priceless |
Post# 428893 , Reply# 19   4/14/2010 at 23:43 (5,097 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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Closeup of marquis. |
Post# 428894 , Reply# 20   4/14/2010 at 23:44 (5,097 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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1967 Model 600. This is what I saw when entering Mrs. Brunner's wash room. |
Post# 428928 , Reply# 21   4/15/2010 at 05:35 (5,097 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)   |   | |
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Yep James..... this one's sentimental to me too. That was my Grandmother's washer as well. And I actually used this critter before. A classic in its own right. Glad you saved it. --Charles-- |
Post# 430298 , Reply# 22   4/20/2010 at 23:38 (5,091 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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It looks like zero bids were made on it thus far, and the time limit for this ad expires on the 23rd. Hopefully someone will nab it soon; preferably a member of the club, and give it a good home. |
Post# 430333 , Reply# 23   4/21/2010 at 07:36 (5,091 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 430456 , Reply# 24   4/21/2010 at 20:55 (5,090 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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It's great isn't it? I'm glad you posted the enlarged photo; now I can see more detail. I looked at the ad and there is a bid. Could the bidder be who I think it is? |
Post# 430492 , Reply# 25   4/22/2010 at 01:43 (5,090 days old) by tbolt25 (Kentucky)   |   | |
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My Mom had a Kenmore washer similar to this, story of it in my profile-same agitator when I was four years old, but I was so disheartened when my Dad got rid of it over the creek bank-it was my most favorite thing in the house. |