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location of stoves' LARGE front surface-element
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Post# 75828   7/31/2005 at 06:31 (6,841 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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OK Cory's beautiful vintage Hotpoint range has me pondering..
and I KNOW this it the right crowd to ask.


On which side is the large FRONT surface-element located by brand?


GE and Hotpoint have the large FRONT surface-element on the right..

WP has the large FRONT element on the left...



Help me out here, boys and girls (and undecided..)







Post# 76073 , Reply# 1   8/1/2005 at 22:02 (6,840 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Westinghouses had them on both sides I think, but I do remember a lefty.

Elux Frigidaires are on the left.



Post# 76076 , Reply# 2   8/1/2005 at 22:13 (6,840 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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the FRONT ones were both large on the WH?

Post# 76118 , Reply# 3   8/2/2005 at 02:44 (6,840 days old) by SactoTeddyBear ()        
Re: Vintage Westinghouse 40-Inch Stove Burners:

If I remember correctly, my Parent's had gotten a 40-Inch Westinghouse 2-Oven Stove from my Aunt, that had 2-Large and 2-Small Burners, that were "Chris-Cross" from each other, with the Front Larger Burner on the Right and the Rear Larger Burner the Left. The Rear Left was one of those "Deep-Well" Burners, that you could lower into the housing of the Stove, to allow using the Soup/Stock Pot, without a possible mishap of it ending up on the Floor, by curious Little Kids wanting to see what's being prepared, in the Pot. You could naturally use the Rear Left Burner locked into position level above to the top of the Stove.

The Burner's sat on the Left Side of the Stove-Top and there was the Counter-Like Space on the Right Side, as well as the Electric Plug, for using your Perculator, or other Small Appliances, if and when you didn't have enough Counter-Space otherwise, to use them or just needed the extra space for some other Small Appliance need.

"BTW" this very same Model Stove is the one that was later on used on "I Love Lucy" when they changed the Stove in the Ricardo's Kitchen, from Gas to an Electric Stove.

Oh! How I wish I still had that Stove, but this Kitchen was Re-Modeled, by my Parents in 1980 and the Stove was relocated between Cabinet's and only allowing 30-Inch Stoves installed any more.

I've got my Gas Maytag Stove and a Maytag Micro/Hood above my Stove now, instead of just an Exhaust Hood...

Peace and Happy Vintage Stove Cooling/Baking, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 76128 , Reply# 4   8/2/2005 at 06:23 (6,839 days old) by shawn (Waterford Ct)        
40-inch Westinghouse stove

I had one of these stoves when I lived in Rhode Island, it was the same as the stove in I Love Lucy. The dials would lite up when any buner was turned on, and the color would change for the temp you were using. The front left bunner was
small but it was a super fast, got red hot in 30 sec. The name of the stove was Speed Commander range. I had to sell mine when I moved but a friend still cook's on his.
Shawn.


Post# 78380 , Reply# 5   8/15/2005 at 05:12 (6,826 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Lucy episode

""BTW" this very same Model Stove is the one that was later on used on "I Love Lucy" when they changed the Stove in the Ricardo's Kitchen, from Gas to an Electric Stove."

Actually, it's the opposite, Lucy's range was normally electric, it was switched to a Roper gas range for the episode where the Ricardos and the Mertzes get into a fight and Fred turns off the gas


Post# 79235 , Reply# 6   8/19/2005 at 12:35 (6,822 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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....and the funny thing is until lately I had never seen electric cooking in Manhattan which is where the show, in theory, takes place.

Then again I had never seen a back porch or exterior accessway either (as you would see in Florida), as shown here in other posts when they fought over a washer and it falls to the street.

Unrealistic? That would also be the gravity hot-air furnace shown on the show to heat a buildng in Manhattan. "Medusa" simply did not ever exist in Manhattan IIRC. Heating systms here are 90% steam in larger buidlngs, with some hot water in smaller ones.


Post# 79291 , Reply# 7   8/19/2005 at 21:20 (6,822 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
heating

Yeah, you're right, now that I think of it. Most buildings as big s the Ricardos and Mertzes lived in would be steam.

Gravity furnaces are common here in L.A. in larger homes built in the the Twenties and Thirties. No thermostas orignally, one had three fixed heat rates, indicated by lights on a switch plate, typically red and white. Rather than a thermostat, there was a button you pushed that stepped the furnace to the next heat range.

White light only=Low
Red light only=medium
Both lights=High


Some were converted to a thermostat, then the furnace just ran on high when the thermostat called for heat. The registers were always at floor level


Post# 79345 , Reply# 8   8/20/2005 at 06:43 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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IMHO these are great for blackouts in that many models are non-electric.

Although most heating systems are gas or oil-fired the controls are electic and heat stops dead during blackouts.

These gravity wall furnaces, gas-fired storage-type domestic hot-water heaters and gas fireplases are the exception.
Some gas-fired steam central heating systems use a milli-volt electrical generating thermocouple where the pilot light generates a tiny current/voltage that opens the gas solenoid. These also work when no power.

he below link shows a 3/4 volt thermocouple ("generator") works with a companion 3/4 volt gas solenoid.

(...and for our young friends a solenoid is a big fancy word for an electically controlled vavle. Mostly on/off no regulation.)


CLICK HERE TO GO TO toggleswitch's LINK


Post# 79346 , Reply# 9   8/20/2005 at 06:49 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I cant find any explanations of milli-volt systems, but here is a link with a coomerical wwater heater that has it as an available option.


Again, to re-iterate makes them non-electric and still work during black outs!


Post# 79347 , Reply# 10   8/20/2005 at 06:54 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Personally I am working on a natural gas fired generator for blackouts and to be able to switch to time-of-day metering for electricity to take advantage of the off-peak rate and generate my own power (for the central A/C at least) during peak hours.

I that is not viable, I have a gas stove, will be getting a gas-fireplace, and can get a gas water heater.

LET IT SNOW ...let it snow let snow. Then there can be 100 blackouts a week, I won't care.



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