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Post# 438118   5/28/2010 at 23:00 (5,052 days old) by retropia ()        

I always have a hard time guessing the age of these things, but I'm guessing this is newer than 1985. It is model EWU1005, and located in -- of all the crazy places for a Maytag -- Iowa! The seller is asking $50 and says about it: "Like new condition. Used very little. Works perfect."

What can anyone tell me about it? Thanks!





Post# 438119 , Reply# 1   5/28/2010 at 23:03 (5,052 days old) by retropia ()        
Reverse racks

I asked the seller about the condition of the racks. She responded: "Very little rust. We have a water softener run through hot & cold water."

What I'd like to know:

-Is this a belt drive model?
-Would it make a reliable daily driver?
-Does it have a top-down sprinkler or spray arm?


Post# 438120 , Reply# 2   5/28/2010 at 23:05 (5,052 days old) by retropia ()        
More inside

Would this have a heated water feature?

Does the heated dry have a blower fan to help the process?


Post# 438126 , Reply# 3   5/28/2010 at 23:16 (5,052 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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WOW, I have never seen one of these models. Talk about TOL!!

A couple of years ago, I decoded a reverse rack serial # to the mid year of 1991, so they were available until at least mid 1991.

These higher end models not only preheat the water, but they also maintain the temperature throughout the cycles!


Post# 438131 , Reply# 4   5/28/2010 at 23:28 (5,052 days old) by retropia ()        
Heated water

Keeping the water hot throughout the wash would be a nice feature to have, considering some of today's dishwasher detergents.

Post# 438132 , Reply# 5   5/28/2010 at 23:31 (5,052 days old) by retropia ()        
Serial number

The one photo was high-resolution enough that I was able to almost read the serial number, but not quite. I tried using the sharpen filter and adjusting the brightness and contrast, but still can't really read it. They make it look so easy on tv shows like CSI.

Post# 438161 , Reply# 6   5/29/2010 at 00:23 (5,052 days old) by A440 ()        
Very nice and rare!

-Is this a belt drive model?

No. Direct drive.


-Would it make a reliable daily driver?

Yes if you can get used to the loading. Very good cleaning with very strong wash pump!


-Does it have a top-down sprinkler or spray arm?

Yes.

It also does heat the water in the main wash, and if my memory serves me correct it has a Sani cycle.

This is a very good dishwasher. You don't see this model very often.

What are they asking for it?

Brent


Post# 438165 , Reply# 7   5/29/2010 at 00:34 (5,052 days old) by retropia ()        

They are asking $50. I've sent an email to the seller that I'm interested in it. We'll see if we can work out the details.

Thanks for the advice!


Post# 438167 , Reply# 8   5/29/2010 at 00:50 (5,052 days old) by A440 ()        

I would ask if they would take $35 then up to $40.
These racks are around. I have several sets in very good condition if you would need them.
The racks in this dishwasher look quite nice.
Oh, and I also think this has the blower for the dry cycle. The heating element provides the heat and the blower gets the moisture out. Very good design.
Let us know what you decide to do. I think it is worth the haggle on the price.
Brent


Post# 438178 , Reply# 9   5/29/2010 at 02:02 (5,052 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I probably wouldn't have been so quick to run our Motley Maytag out of the kitchen if it looked like that one! And the reverse rack is a fun quirk as long as you keep helpful but albeit unenlightened guests from loading it.

I'm betting this one would be quieter than the plastic tub model we had, and I think I spot the forced air fan inlet back there in the right rear corner. I'd wager this machine would be an excellent performer, and it's a rare one. Fun!

Is that off-colored plastisol touch-up on those cross members, tine bottoms and on some tips? If so, I would try to get it for less than $50.


Post# 438205 , Reply# 10   5/29/2010 at 08:35 (5,052 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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This would be a fantastic dishwasher to get. Kinda rare, I doubt Maytag sold very many of these. Full-size spray arm on top of the tank, fan-assisted drying, not a belt-drive pump, probably a little quieter than the typical belt-drive design, but probably not as quiet as Ralph hopes it would be.

Post# 438228 , Reply# 11   5/29/2010 at 10:32 (5,052 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Grab it!

My first (and so far, best) dishwasher was a reverse rack Maytag. Ours lasted 20 years, with only two repairs, one fairly major (timer,) and one fairly minor (upper rack support.)


This would be a fun machine, and a good machine.


Grab it if you can!


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 438272 , Reply# 12   5/29/2010 at 14:07 (5,052 days old) by jakeseacrest (Massachusetts)        

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Does anyone have any use and care manuals for the reverse racks that they could share?

Post# 438274 , Reply# 13   5/29/2010 at 14:07 (5,052 days old) by jakeseacrest (Massachusetts)        

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Or catalogs?

Post# 438357 , Reply# 14   5/29/2010 at 23:03 (5,051 days old) by retropia ()        

Ok, I've indicated to the seller I'd like to buy it. If everything works out, I should be picking it up sometime in late June.

I asked if she still has the owner's manual; she said she would look for it. She's the original owner. If I get the manual, I'll scan it and post copies here.

Thanks again, all, for the information and advice.


Post# 438376 , Reply# 15   5/30/2010 at 01:12 (5,051 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I can honestly say that I have never owned or seen a dishwasher with a blower fan on it. Growing up, we had the portable GE from the late 70s (ish). My grandma had a Whirpool from 1984 (ish) (still working today with no repairs that I know of) Her house is now rented out by my father so It could have died and I don't know about it, and several other places I've lived that had dishwashers, none had a fan on it. I think that would really help in drying quickly. A shame not many have this feature now. Let us know how you like it and send lots of pics :)

Post# 438384 , Reply# 16   5/30/2010 at 02:30 (5,051 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I'm getting superior drying results from my current machine ('85 Thermador) that has no fan, which per WKU allows for "humidity free" drying. Every machine I've owned or used that had a fan still never got the cup bottoms dry in the top rack. Meanwhile, I haven't had to keep a dish towel handy while unloading since the Thermador was installed back around the first of the year.



Post# 438453 , Reply# 17   5/30/2010 at 10:57 (5,051 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Hi Doug this is the newer version by a year or so of the Jennair DW we talked about the other day. It should be some what quieter than the belt drive machine. The major possible weak area is the computer control when this goes you have a major problem on your hands if you want to fix it. The Jennair still has a regular timer. Drying was never great in MT reverse rack machines you will probably end up having to use heated dry or remembering to leave the door open over night, one problem they always had was the silver ware basket being on the top rack would end holding water and sprinkle the dry dishes bottom rack when the top rack was pulled out to unload. But over all it should be a fun machine, they only made the porcelain tank DD machines for about two years.

Post# 438459 , Reply# 18   5/30/2010 at 11:20 (5,051 days old) by estesguy (kansas)        
Belt driven

The interior on this one looks identical to the WU900 series model I had back in the mid 80's, and it was belt driven. Forced air inlet to the back right, and air was heated by the interior element. In fact it could maybe be a WU1000 of some kind? I thought mine was TOL with pushbutton controls, with no timer dial, but this one was probably manufactured in later years. PVC coated racks weren't all that good, I had to put plastic repair tips over the worn tines. Always go for nylon today. When the pump assembly started making a loud noise, along with rusted racks, I got rid of it, but that was years later, and it was a good daily driver until then.

Post# 438553 , Reply# 19   5/30/2010 at 23:29 (5,050 days old) by retropia ()        

Hi John, yes, I was reminded of that JennAir when I saw this one. I figured that if this Maytag's electronic controls ever go on the fritz, it's unlikely I'd ever find an exact replacement. I would probably try to retrofit a different controller before junking it.

Has anyone ever tried altering programming on a computerized dishwasher controller? I'm curious if its possible to download the program, fiddle with it, and then upload the revised version. I suppose the code would be written in some arcane, age-appropriate language.

If that was possible, then I'd think it wouldn't be too hard to use a generic controller.

As far as drying goes, I've been tempted to try that JetDry Turbo someone else recommended. It's supposed to get plastics dry even without using heated dry.

estesguy, the seller told me the model number is EWU1005.


Post# 438878 , Reply# 20   6/1/2010 at 12:52 (5,049 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Doug. My parents had this machine as a portable. I think this one is a deluxe model. My parents had a know and some buttons. It cleaned very well and dried well. I had a fan forced drying.

Post# 438892 , Reply# 21   6/1/2010 at 13:56 (5,049 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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If you aren't able to pick this dishwasher up, please let me know. I'd be interested in picking it up if it were fairly close to Waterloo.

Ben


Post# 443374 , Reply# 22   6/21/2010 at 14:31 (5,029 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Why do they call these dishwashers "reverse rack"? Are the racks interchangable?

Post# 443405 , Reply# 23   6/21/2010 at 16:03 (5,029 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Reverse rack = plates in top rack, glassware in bottom rack.


Post# 443475 , Reply# 24   6/21/2010 at 22:04 (5,028 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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A Question: Why did Maytag use the "reverse rack" system? I would think the water spray on the bottom rack would be more aggressive than the upper rack's tower. Wouldn't you want pots/pans on the lower rack? Would lighter weight glasses (plastic, for instance) flip over in the bottom rack?

I've seen these dishwashers, but never used one.


Post# 443922 , Reply# 25   6/23/2010 at 17:13 (5,027 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
I'd grab this one. And if you don't want it....

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To answer one of your questions, yes, it does have forced air fan driven drying, you can see the fan outlet in one of the pictures. Also, this model has the adjustable tines in the top rack,which are also visible. I loved my reverse-rack machine and this one is a very pretty iteration of them. My only complaint on my machine, which was a BOL, was lack of boosted heat cycles, which the others have indicated this has. I'd go for it at any reasonable price. It may seem a little louder than dishwashers that you're used to but it's so worth it. Even though this is a "reverse-rack" machine, you can load small plates in the bottom rack and any sort of glassware in the top rack. Unfortunately, when Maytag moved from manufacturing just their wonderful top-loading portable dishwasher to their front-loading built-ins they weren't able to completely reinterpret the racks of the top loader where you really can use either rack for almost any sized plates or glasses. The top loader had RIDICULOUSLY huge capacity; the built-ins' capacity is just huge. And yes, I have all the manuals for the early Maytag dishwashers except, of course, the one I really need, for the WP-600.

Post# 443947 , Reply# 26   6/23/2010 at 19:46 (5,027 days old) by retropia ()        

I've purchased the EWU1005 and will pick it up in a couple of weeks. My plan is to periodically switch it out with our new Whirl-more and run it as a daily driver for awhile. I use the dishwasher at least once a day, so I'm looking forward to seeing how the Maytag compares to the Whirlpools with which I'm familiar.


Post# 444112 , Reply# 27   6/24/2010 at 10:36 (5,026 days old) by bwoods ()        
pots and pans

Eugene, when I did pots and pans, yes, I usually put them on the lower rack of my Maytag. The tower washed fine, but I put extra soiled pans on the lower rack as they got a little extra scrubbing.

Oddly, enough, I never had a problem with plastic glasses, etc. toppling over in the lower rack.

The holes on the Maytag wash arm are very small. You don't get much in the way of water, per given hole, as far as actual mass goes, but the small mass does has a high velocity. And there are many holes, so the force is spread out.

On D&M machines that I have had, the holes in the lower wash arm were very large, and few, and let a great mass of water through at any one time. And yes, plastic wear in the bottom rack flew all over. But then again you weren't supposed to put these in the bottom rack anyway.

It's like an adjustable nozzle on a garden hose. Set it for many small holes and you get shower type spray. Aim it at a plastic bucket and the bucket won't fly away.

Turn the nozzle selector to force all the water through one large hole and aim it at the bucket. The greater mass of water concentrated in one opening blows the bucket away.



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