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Hoover Keymatic door seal
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Post# 439022   6/2/2010 at 05:24 (5,070 days old) by turnamat (Germany)        

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Hello@all!
I´m searching for a new door seal for a good working Keymatic from the early 60ies.Not possible to get it in germany,cause the machines have not been popular here,and only a few are found on eBay,mostly in worse condition!Hopefully,I´ll get some information about where to get one here!

Thomas.





Post# 439024 , Reply# 1   6/2/2010 at 05:42 (5,070 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Door Seals

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Morning Thomas

Dont hold your breath on that one, the door boots for the sloping front (am assuming its the sloping front) keymatic are virtually non existant!!! we are slowly working our way through new spares, mainly old Euro models to see if one will be suitable. What model is yours?? any pics??

Failing that we just may have to find a place to have some manufacturerd, as between us all there appears to be a growing number of keymatics surfacing which would help with the costs!!


Post# 439029 , Reply# 2   6/2/2010 at 06:05 (5,070 days old) by turnamat (Germany)        
DoorSeals

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Here is a picture of mine!

I was thinking of turning round the seal for 180 degrees,but there are holes in the rubber all round!Don´t think,it will stop leaking with the old one!


Post# 439031 , Reply# 3   6/2/2010 at 06:19 (5,070 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Keymatic 3224

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Nice one Thomas, its the first Hoover model 3224 with timeline, and a lovely original turquoise door boot!!!

The only thing you could experiment with is to paint onto the rubber a clear sealant etc and build it up in layers, I`ll tell you now that type of rubber just turns to mush when you start to remove it!! so take plenty of pictures before you attempt to move it!!!

Does it work and complete a wash etc??


Post# 439033 , Reply# 4   6/2/2010 at 06:27 (5,070 days old) by turnamat (Germany)        
Keymatic 3224

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It works perfect,instead of leaking!
The inside looks like new!

That´s why I want the new seal!


Post# 439099 , Reply# 5   6/2/2010 at 12:11 (5,070 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

The best option would be to get a batch specially produced before the last existing one turns to mush. If enough were produced the cost per unit wouldn't be too great.

Tom.


Post# 439189 , Reply# 6   6/2/2010 at 17:19 (5,070 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

My Boot is still intact, the issue with mine was the sump hose that had disintegrated. It took some work, but I managed to create a new one, with some PVC a Cortina upper radiator hose and the Tub to pump hose off a Hoover toploader.

I've never put the cabinet back on mine yet as I'm missing a hot wash keyplate and from time to time keep fiddling to figure out how to control the programmer with a toggleswitch to get the heat periods.

My pulsator seems to have been disabled in the past. Mine is the next model along with the round timer.


Post# 439269 , Reply# 7   6/2/2010 at 21:22 (5,069 days old) by A440 ()        

Great looking machine.
I was looking at your boot and wondering if a Whirlpool Duet boot would fit? The Duet Boot is HUGE when you have it out of the machine.
A second thought is the Westinghouse boots for the Spacemates.
Brent


Post# 439271 , Reply# 8   6/2/2010 at 21:31 (5,069 days old) by turnamat (Germany)        

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Hi Brent!

Would it then be possible to get a Whirlpool or Westinghouse boot??

Thanx for the answer,

Thomas.


Post# 439281 , Reply# 9   6/2/2010 at 21:55 (5,069 days old) by A440 ()        

Hi Thomas,
Since you are in Germany...try to find a company that sells BAUKNECHT parts. I think the equal to our US Duets is the Bauknecht Big. If you can find a parts store that sells the boots, ask them if they can provide you with dimensions of the boot. Compare that with the boot of your Keymatic. Often with vintage machines you "make things work".
Someone else on your side of the world might chime in with a better idea than mine.
Your Kaymatic is in wonderful shape!
Brent


Post# 439282 , Reply# 10   6/2/2010 at 21:58 (5,069 days old) by A440 ()        

I meant to say "Keymatic" not "Kaymatic".

Although I think the "Hoover Kaymatic" would be kind of festive!



Post# 439283 , Reply# 11   6/2/2010 at 22:01 (5,069 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Mike

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Qualtex doesn't make that boot??? Or have NOS spares???
Try my contact at Qualtex Paul Curran:

His phone number is 0161 320 2660.

email:
Paul.Curran@QualtexUK.com

He sourced an early Bendix boot for me, nice chap.

JON





Post# 439321 , Reply# 12   6/3/2010 at 00:18 (5,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I measured the door seal of my Keymatic. It's 28cm so it's not very big, it's about the same size as the one of my Miele W715. So it might be a good idea to have a look at some European ones, one of them may fit.

Post# 439334 , Reply# 13   6/3/2010 at 03:50 (5,069 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Door Boots

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The issue with the Keymatic is as Louis says, its small at the point of opening on the cabinet, under 30cm, but the drum opening has a much bigger opening!!!

THEN, look at Thomas`s pic when empty, it looks level, BUT as the drum fill and drops back, the boot opens up CONSIDERABLY, and thats the problem, small front, large behind and needs a lot of slack in the middle!!!

Brent, good thinking about the Dreamspace/Duet, tried that one, much too big on the front cabinet opening and not enough slack!!

Hey Jon, you didnt say you`d gone direct!! Paul, Tania & team know us very well, I`ve a stash of defunct boots from machines of bygone times where we are trying to find one to fit...LOL..what happened to the 2 packages of boots that I sent?? where they for different Bendixii??


Post# 439336 , Reply# 14   6/3/2010 at 03:59 (5,069 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Keymatic Boots

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You can see here when full the top part needs more slack to allow it to drop!! and the bottom has dropped below the opening!!!

Post# 439337 , Reply# 15   6/3/2010 at 04:04 (5,069 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
When Spinning

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& no water in the drum it contracts considerably!!

Post# 439352 , Reply# 16   6/3/2010 at 06:59 (5,069 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA)        
Old thread: alternate boot?

"Matchboxpaul" has a post 236257 on this old thread where someone used a different boot (Hoover New Wave) on a Keymatic. Perhaps this will help.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO dnastrau's LINK


Post# 439358 , Reply# 17   6/3/2010 at 07:37 (5,069 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Sadly not, I think

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I suspect that the machine being referred to in the old thread is the one pictured above, and which appeared in our recent threads of our last get together in Chester.

One one thought which strikes me is what about the door boot used on the old slant front Westinghouse models. From what I have learned (on here) the two machines operate on a similar principle of the drum changing angle as it fills with water, so if the dimesnions were right ..... I realise that these must be pretty rare too and even older than the Keymatic but perhaps rather more plentiful?
Al


Post# 439360 , Reply# 18   6/3/2010 at 07:49 (5,069 days old) by turnamat (Germany)        

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Thanx alot for all the good news!

I sent an eMail to Paul Curran,maybe there will be one still existing!
Please hold Your thumbs for me,would be the luckiest man in the world having a complete wash with no leaking in my keymatic!
Then,I would have both of my dream machines work perfect:The Hoovermatic that is still running well and-hopefully-the Keymatic!

Thanx to All of You,

Thomas.


Post# 439373 , Reply# 19   6/3/2010 at 08:43 (5,069 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Alternative

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Hi Andrew

Yes Mathew (keymatic3203) used a new-wave boot to cover the base of the tub whilst he tested out the machine, the boot wouldnt fit around the top of the tub/cabinet opening so unfortunately is not a total fit!!!

Heres mine after finding a NIB black replacement boot and giving up the lovely turquoise!!! We`ll keep looking!!


Post# 439374 , Reply# 20   6/3/2010 at 08:57 (5,069 days old) by turnamat (Germany)        

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....would take a black one ,too!Important for me is to run a complete cycle with water!
I sent a note to Paul Curran.Maybe it works!

Wish to have as much fun with the Keymatic then,like I have with the Hoovermatic!

Thomas.


Post# 439487 , Reply# 21   6/3/2010 at 18:58 (5,068 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA)        
Good luck

Too bad that the other boot won't work. I hope you find the correct replacement!

Post# 439500 , Reply# 22   6/3/2010 at 20:24 (5,068 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Wow Mike

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I never got the two boots you sent, I thought you forgot or were busy so I went direct. Thats the only reason.

Hmmmm, I also ordered surfactant last month from Norway that was "diverted" somehow.



Post# 439543 , Reply# 23   6/4/2010 at 05:50 (5,068 days old) by Whirlpolf ()        
perhaps here

hi Thomas, maybe these links might help:

www.hgt24.de/shop/t%FCrmanschette...

www.ersatzteile-express.de/index1...
(this second one has an automatic redirect to the entry page, just click "Waschmaschinen-Ersatzteile" -- Hoover -- "T�rmanschette, Faltenbalg"

If not, you might google in German for:
- T�rdichtung (= door seal)
- T�rmanschette (= door gasket)
- Faltenbalg (= bellows)
- T�rgummi (= door rubber)

Hope this helps.
Joe


Post# 439544 , Reply# 24   6/4/2010 at 05:53 (5,068 days old) by Whirlpolf ()        
sorry, Umlaut...

it should read "Tü�r" (T, u umlaut, r), forgot to change the text coding, sorry.
Joe



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