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Is Zanussi losing one of it's best selling points? |
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Post# 442050 , Reply# 2   6/16/2010 at 03:28 (5,034 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Morning Liam,
I cant speak directly from experience but I also find it odd that the lower spin machines are any worse however the few 1000/1200 Aquacycles I know of none have failed due to bearings. Mostly PCB or motor issues and tend to be after the 5 year mark. I wouldnt mind knowing how my ZWF1440W is getting on after 5 years albeit unlikely id ever want to speak to my ex again LOL. Earlier this year Pauls sister and her fella were in need of a new machine after their Hotpoint WMA34 packed up. The tub worked loose off its suspension and with me not having the parts or time to hand to repair it for them they decided that as they also needed a new dryer (Creda compact which was sat on top of the washing machine and got thrown off and smashed when the tub worked loose in spin) they would just have a new machine. Took them down to Currys in Blackburn where I reccommended the 1600 Essential 7kg and Sensor Vented Dryer however when we compared prices else where we could of trimmed £120 off the cost of the washer by shopping at John Lewis. They placed the order of both washer and dryer at JL but when they phoned they had the 1600rpm 7kg Jetsystem on offer for £20 more which they snapped up and seem to be really happy with it.Mark (Pauls sisters fella) seems to most of the washing, the garage where it resides also houses his vintage tractor so its in his lair lol. No issues yet so fingers crossed. From the outside they are IMHO the best made machines in the mid price range feeling nice and solid. Im no fan of Bosch or Beko. My Arch-Enemy decided to give up the ghost on Saturday. Not been spinning particularly well for a good while mostly speeding up and cutting out in 3 short bursts. Gets a bit annoying having to use a spin drier for every load that came out of it. Something new in as of last night! All will be revealed later in the week LOL. |
Post# 442163 , Reply# 3   6/16/2010 at 13:47 (5,033 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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How everyones opinion differs never ceases to amaze me. I'd place both Bosch and Beko ABOVE Zanussi in terms of performance. My other half has a Zanussi with a 6KG drum and thats pretty good. However, the rinses on the 7KG models is abysmal. Beko have fantastic rinse levels and are proving to be quite reliable for a low end brand, even if the machines without quick wash options do slightly take the piss with the wash times.
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Post# 442172 , Reply# 5   6/16/2010 at 14:16 (5,033 days old) by Pedro (London)   |   | |
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I found these on the Comet website....really can't say i'm keen on the new look, it looks....cheap. Although i fully understand my opinion may not match those of other members... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Pedro's LINK |
Post# 442174 , Reply# 6   6/16/2010 at 14:22 (5,033 days old) by Pedro (London)   |   | |
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lol, great minds think alike eh matchboxpaul? We posted at the exact same time! lol |
Post# 442177 , Reply# 8   6/16/2010 at 14:35 (5,033 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 442194 , Reply# 10   6/16/2010 at 15:25 (5,033 days old) by bertrum ()   |   | |
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Hi Liam, "at least 8 loads a week". Thats close to commercial usage. I predict a breakdown!. |
Post# 442206 , Reply# 11   6/16/2010 at 16:05 (5,033 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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I am like liam a huge zanussi fan. I own 3 vintage ones. Though my favourite modern brand is LG.
Sadly it seems they've succumbed to the cutting cost along with quality road. I never thought they would. My zanussi ZWF12070G1 which was the model in question will be one of the least overworked machines around now it resides in the garage with the rest of the team while the LG takes centre stage. In the time i've had it i've been happy with it. The current range finally has shorter cotton cycles as standard which did a good job. I didn't like that the minimum temp was 40. Bit high for a modern machine. Or that the only indication of the cycle i had was On/Active & door locked. So unless u kept your eye on it you couldn't be sure. Very annoying. How hard is it to put a wash/rinse/spin indication. Reminds me of bosch maxx's when they didn't have them. It washes well and does very short pauses with long tumbles. The motor is a little louder than any previous zanussi i had. The rinsing was better because of the extra water it uses for not being a jetsystem model. I like it enough that i don't want to sell it just yet. I'm shocked too at how many have turned up with PCB/Bearing failure. Now...the "chinatown" zanussi. I downloaded the manual. Looking at it many many times. I hate that it carrys the zanussi badge. Its a samsung folks. And will do alot of damage to their rep because it is sold in Comet not just Euronics. though it hasn't featured on their main site. thankfully. Darren |
Post# 442281 , Reply# 17   6/16/2010 at 20:10 (5,033 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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...the Maytag is an ASKO, not a Maytag....
I personally think it looks fantastic and they appear to be heavily build having played with one in the shops.... ...but like most things, only time will tell... Beko used to be known as a bargain basement brand with equivalent quality....and I predicted 18mth ago that would change post their purchase of Blomberg - and it has...just check out the Which? reliability ratings rate Beko as 'Above Average' in reliability....which should be commended for what is a relatively new brand to the UK market.... |
Post# 442362 , Reply# 19   6/16/2010 at 23:18 (5,033 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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...it is an ASKO and made in Sweden....
For some reason ASKO exited the British market about 10-13 years ago under their own name.... ...as for Beko and troubles with their new range, I have no idea....but I certainly am not a fan of HUGE capacity machines...especially when many of us don't need it or use it... |
Post# 442387 , Reply# 21   6/17/2010 at 03:21 (5,033 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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....they are not built as solidly or meant to last 20yrs...
BUT.... Comparatively speaking, you're not paying the same money as you were in the 70's either... If you want solid quality and a better chance of a machine lasting longer than 5-10yrs, you buy mid range Miele which is what a Hoover/Zannusi/Hotpoint should cost in real terms today ....you can't have it all ways.... |
Post# 442513 , Reply# 22   6/17/2010 at 15:41 (5,032 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Hey Liam!
I'm good thanks! I trust your well. I was in the garage admiring my zanussi whilst on hold to a callcentre...can't say too much i work in one lol. The minute i saw the colour i wanted it. Much nicer than the plan white. I find it abit of a joke that you can buy a whirlpool with lots of indicators and a zanussi that cost me £360+ has an on door locked & end light. The motor sounds like most zanussi motors but a little whinier as you say. Though it still spins unbalanced and doesn't move that much so there is still some zanussi quality there. The cycle times are great for most lightly/normal soiled loads. Mine is one of the second edition ones that had a half load button. i've noticed they like do to this when they release them now, the first ones have extra rinse then the next lot have a halfload button instead. Though i'd have preffered the extra rinse but its just like my mums AEG with rinse plus where the end result is the same because the interms are slower. Whats the point of that. My lg if you select 5rinses will do the maximum interms after each rinse! Surely thats more effective? A shocking thing that not many will realise but myself and lavamat_jon stumbled across watching videos of an electrolux 8kg was the drum pulley is PLASTIC! I was shocked. I'm really disapointed at the electrolux group outsourcing a chinese made machine. Surely they could have done something in house. They'd already dumbed this range down compared to the awesome XC range. One of my favourite modern ranges. Paul i had a bosch like yours it had the same facia as the MAXX range from 05 a rinse plus button & a rinse hold button and the start button. The only similarity between that and my Bosch WFF2000 was the name sadly. It was made in spain in the Baylay factory that does the low to mid and i belive the high end model production now. It was fine. Cycles were long but they all were in early 00's. The pump was loud. The rinsing was diar without rinse plus. I used the synthetic cycles alot because the rinses filled up the door. And it like yours did the super high level rinse which i used to run after the spin after the wash on cottons as it was a half decent rinse. Ronhic-Couldn't agree more. But i think some people get stary eyed about the past. Yes there were some amazingly built machines then. But there are some quite well made heavy machines nowadays too. You have to pay for quality these days and my LG didn't come cheap even on the lowest price on the internet that i found it on. Its probably the heavist machine i've ever owned! And the technology is superub. Though now the 11kg with steam has released...i like the idea of 2 LGs side by side when we move house..hmmm. |