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Post# 444884   6/27/2010 at 08:13 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        

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While doing a small load of white shirts this morning, my 806 went thru the prewash, soak and wash periods. It went thru the first spin(with spray rinse), and filled for the rinse. Then nothing!
Could I have used too much soap and casued the motor to overheat?
When I took off the front panel, the motor was very HOT.
I imagine that when it cools down, it will start again.

What are you thoughts as to why the machine shut down?





Post# 444897 , Reply# 1   6/27/2010 at 09:09 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Still no action

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Machine will not fill either.
Panel light up and then nothing!

Could the timer have died?



Post# 444900 , Reply# 2   6/27/2010 at 09:13 (5,049 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Hi Gary,

Bad lid switch if no fill. Does it fill on the wash setting of the timer?


Post# 444905 , Reply# 3   6/27/2010 at 09:44 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
John

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No fill.
It filled for rinse then completely stopped.
The lid switch was electronically by-passed.

The machine lights up and then no action whatsoever.



Post# 444908 , Reply# 4   6/27/2010 at 09:57 (5,049 days old) by mixfinder ()        
GFI

Gary
Make sure there's no GFI in the loop this plugs into. Check to be sure the wires have not comes apart in the lids switch bypass. Try moving the knob back to wash or another cycle and see what happens. Make sure the load selector isn't double pushed. Try switching to a smaller load size and see if it starts.


Post# 444917 , Reply# 5   6/27/2010 at 10:32 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Kelly

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Tried all your suggestions...Nothing!


Post# 444918 , Reply# 6   6/27/2010 at 10:35 (5,049 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        

if the motor did overheat and shut off due to overload,the belt
could be the wrong type or faulty.


Post# 444922 , Reply# 7   6/27/2010 at 10:39 (5,049 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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Make sure all of the buttons are pushed in ALL the way. If they are not pushed in all the way the machine will not run.

Post# 444941 , Reply# 8   6/27/2010 at 11:40 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Switch

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The little brown piece in the back by the switch has a white piece that goes in and out.....that white piece does not move...Can that be the problem?


Post# 444947 , Reply# 9   6/27/2010 at 11:49 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Repair clinic

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Is this the part?

Could this be the whole problem?


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Post# 444948 , Reply# 10   6/27/2010 at 11:55 (5,049 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

If you bypassed the lid switch by joining the 2 wires together, then the lid switch is not the problem. How did you bypass the lid switch?

Post# 444950 , Reply# 11   6/27/2010 at 12:01 (5,049 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Does yours have the little buss fuse...that could be blown....

if it was just the motor, it would still fill!...or could one of the wires broke free from the timer or their own terminal?


Post# 444951 , Reply# 12   6/27/2010 at 12:05 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Does yours have the little buss fuse...that could be blown..

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What is that?


Post# 444952 , Reply# 13   6/27/2010 at 12:07 (5,049 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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It's far too old for the fuse.

Post# 444954 , Reply# 14   6/27/2010 at 12:09 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        

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If the switch was bypassed, does that part above have anything to do with stopping all action? The button stays in and there is no click.


Post# 444956 , Reply# 15   6/27/2010 at 12:10 (5,049 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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Check the water level switch. Sometimes they will go wonky and cause this problem.

Post# 444958 , Reply# 16   6/27/2010 at 12:13 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Check the water level switch.

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I get absolutely no action at all...no fill even.

The machine filled for the rinse cycle and then completely stopped.



Post# 444978 , Reply# 17   6/27/2010 at 12:53 (5,049 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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It won't even fill to a higher water level? How was the lid switch bypassed? Did you take the control panel apart and check for any loose wires? Did you check for power at the motor?

Post# 445011 , Reply# 18   6/27/2010 at 15:03 (5,049 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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How is the switch bypassed? The "white thing" I think you're refering to shuts the machine down if it goes off balance.

Post# 445026 , Reply# 19   6/27/2010 at 15:49 (5,049 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Agua

Any chance there's an issue with water supply and it's just waiting for water? No dreaded no flood hose?

Post# 445082 , Reply# 20   6/27/2010 at 19:41 (5,049 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Not a water supply issue

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Can't figure out why nothing it happening!

So that piece pictured has nothing to do when the swithch is electrically by-passed?


Post# 445092 , Reply# 21   6/27/2010 at 20:25 (5,048 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
White thing

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On my other Maytags, what 'white thing' has a clicking noise when pushed in and out. The one pictured does not have that noise, and, should that not be a factor when the switch is electically by-passed?


Post# 445096 , Reply# 22   6/27/2010 at 20:35 (5,048 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Gary,

If you bypassed the lid switch by joining the 2 wires together that go to each side of that switch, then the switch is out of the circuit. You may have a timer problem or the water level awitch might be "hung up" . it is a single pole, double throw switch.. check to make sure the 2 wires you joined together have not somehow separated????????


Post# 445102 , Reply# 23   6/27/2010 at 20:48 (5,048 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Jonh

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Checked that.
Wires are not separated.
The machine filled for rinse and then would not start agitating.
Now, it will not even fill. When the water is off, I do not hear the buzzing either.


Post# 445103 , Reply# 24   6/27/2010 at 20:49 (5,048 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Advance timer to spin

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Nothing!
The panel lights up as well as the tub light. No action


Post# 445106 , Reply# 25   6/27/2010 at 21:11 (5,048 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Gary,

It could be the water level switch is not making any contact to start the motor to agitate. It's either the water level switch or the timer. If you open the console, you will see the clear plastic (or black colored) air tube that runs to the water level switch. Remove the hose from the switch ( make sure the washer is unplugged).You might hear a click when you remove the air hose. If you can find another piece of air hose to attach to the water level switch, then blow into the hose to see if you hear a click.Clear as mud...right???


Post# 445111 , Reply# 26   6/27/2010 at 21:24 (5,048 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
John

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Even if it was the water level switch, wouldn't the machine still SPIN when you put it in the Damp Dry portion?



Post# 445116 , Reply# 27   6/27/2010 at 21:42 (5,048 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Yes it should spin. The water level switch is not involved in the spin circuit. Sounds like a bad master switch in the timer.You also said the motor was very hot. I'm wondering if an open overload switch that doesn't reset when cool might be the problem. IIRC the schematic is pasted to the front of the outer tub. I'll see if I can find one in my "06" service manual.

Post# 445147 , Reply# 28   6/28/2010 at 01:14 (5,048 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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To rule out the motor, what you can do is remove both front panels from the 806 and 712, and place them directly in front of each other. Hook up the wires from the start switch of the 806 wiring harness to the 712's motor start switch and advance the timer on the 806 to spin. If the motor works on the 712, the motor/start switch in the 806 is bad.

Post# 445163 , Reply# 29   6/28/2010 at 04:04 (5,048 days old) by Spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        
If the switch was bypassed, does that part above have anythi

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The lid switch is multi functional. When you open the lid it shuts off the machine for safety. It also acts as a "out of balance" switch. When the tub sways too far it will trip the same switch and shut off the machine. It's like a "kill" switch. Sometimes you have to grab the agitator and move the tub around and re-center it for the switch to reset. You also have to open and close the lid for the lid switch to reset. The little white button should be moving in and out and click like your other machines. If it is NOT (you say it does not click)something is wrong or broken about this switch. Sometimes the white plastic will crack and break. It seems obvious that this switch is at least part of the problem. Make sure you unplug the machine when working with this switch so you don't get zapped! Hopefully you will be able to just re-center the tub to get it clicking again.

Jim


Post# 445177 , Reply# 30   6/28/2010 at 07:06 (5,048 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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I would rather do it the correct way with a volt meter.

Post# 446898 , Reply# 31   7/4/2010 at 11:25 (5,042 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Mr. Gadget was correct!

This machine was acquired with the lid switch failed in the "ON" /operate position.

Apparently it had failed again randomly right after the machine had filled for the deep rinse, but it had failed in the "OFF" / stop position.


I had only previously bypassed the tub lamp to work and be "on" constantly, as long as the fluorescent control-panel illumination lamp was "on".

I was able to electrically bypass the lid switch, which resolved all issues.

NO CHARGIE! LOL


Post# 446899 , Reply# 32   7/4/2010 at 11:34 (5,042 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Thank you Steve!

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Happy 4th(at least we did not see any sparks with this project)!

My 806 'sunshine' is back in perfect working order!




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