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Clothing Spinners & Spin Rinse Results

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Post# 77476 8/10/2005 at 13:45 (6,823 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)
Checkrate/Likes I created a new thread for this subject as the Spinner Commercial thread was getting rather long and we are now discussing the results rather than the purchase of spinners anyway. We have some 300TC Egyptian Cotton sheets on the bed and we spin rinsed those and we had to spin rinse those four times until we got perfectly clear water, and once again the rinse water in the washing machine was pretty clear to begin with. We dried the sheets on "Knits/Gentle" and the results were very bright white sheets and they are softer than they ever have been! No fabric softner used! I really like this little spinner. I hope it lasts a long time. Toggleswitch, thanks for being the trendsetter! (:->! Designgeek, thanks a lot for letting me know the best technique for spin rinsing. I probably would have burned out the spinner by now otherwise!

Post# 77738 , Reply# 1 8/11/2005 at 21:47 (6,822 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)
Checkrate/Likes :-) we aim to please!

Post# 77870 , Reply# 2 8/12/2005 at 13:30 (6,821 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)
Checkrate/Likes *Another Find About Spin Rinsing* I did a load of shirts and pants (colors) today and most of these clothes were sent through the spin/rinse last week and have been worn since. I used Borax and Fab with some Vernel as a softner. When I did the first spin to clear out the clothes the water had a teeny tiny bit of suds on top of the clear water. When I added more water to do the spin rinse (I found that it works best if you add water and let it sit still for about 5 minutes to soak in good) the water came out perfectly clear! No more suds. So I would have to guess that the first time I did the spin rinse(3 to 4 times for each load) I washed out the detergent residue build up and there has been no additional build up. So I imagine after we get all of our clothing spin rinsed we will only have to spin once to get the excess water removed. I talked to a freind of mine in Germany and asked her about this "W�escheschleuder" (Clothes Slinger). She said that they u sed to be more popular before the FL type machines appeared with the high speed spin. You will also find them in homes that don't have a dryer and they hang their clothes out to dry. She recommeded that I return it and buy a Miele Washer! The way she reacted was the same as if I told her I just bought a wringer washing machine! Would I return it? Never, I am now hooked on spinning! The benefits are too great!

Post# 78031 , Reply# 3 8/13/2005 at 11:00 (6,820 days old) by designgeek ()
Checkrate/Likes I had an interesting experience this week.. I think it was an encounter with the dreaded Suds Lock. Used what I thought was the normal amount of detergent, and it seemed there was a lot of foam on top of the load in the wash tub. Finished the usual was cycle, drained the wash tub, moved load to the spinner. Noticed that water wasn't coming out the discharge hose... but... Uh Oh!, was backing up into the wash tub, suds included. First thought: Darn!, is the pump still working? After the spinner stopped I heard the pump was still running. So then I thought, Darn!, I must have broke a valve or something! So I fiddled with the knobs a bit and pretty quickly the suds in the washtub got slurped out and discharged into the sink with a merry splash. I was sufficiently relieved at this that I forgot exactly what knobs I turned and in what combination, but whatever it was, it worked. It took about twice as long (spin/rinse cycles and soak/rinse time) to get all the suds out of that load, altogether. So this is what makes me think I got a case of Suds Lock. Caused by some kind of accidental excess detergent, or perhaps old detergent stuck in those clothes, or something. Does that sound about right, or could it have been something else? (I have a batch to wash tonight, including flannel sheets; we'll see if this trouble recurs, though I somehow doubt it...)

Post# 78214 , Reply# 4 8/14/2005 at 10:45 (6,819 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Valve Block* Sometimes if you use the valve whilst the machine is in operation it can suck air in and cause a lock, oversudsing certainly will... Quickest way I find is to use a drop of fabric conditioner to zap the suds...always seems to work.. What type of detergent do you use??

Post# 78260 , Reply# 5 8/14/2005 at 15:09 (6,819 days old) by boschowner ()
Checkrate/Likes *Just a warning* whirlcool: I have the exact same spin dryer as you and Toggleswitch have. Mine is maybe 1 month old, well just today the entire tub blew out! All I had were 4 towels in it, and well balanced. All of a sudden during the high speed there was a vcry loud crash sound, I turned around and actually saw the machine itself spin around and it ripped the plug right out of the wall. Smashed the metal pan I had behind it to catch the water. To me it looks like something at the bottom holding the tub snapped. The tub is now pressed against the cabinet, I cant even budge it. When I think about it now,its actually kind of funny. To see this thing spin around the way it did, looked like something from and I Love Lucy episode. Just be careful around it. If me or anyone else or one my dogs were near it when it happened, they would have been hurt. Bobby

Post# 78366 , Reply# 6 8/15/2005 at 00:53 (6,819 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)
Checkrate/Likes *WOW! I kinda suspected....* that something like this was a possibility with this spin dryer. Was it a contained or uncontained failure (meaning, did parts explode and fly out of the cabinet or did the cabinet and lid contain all the broken parts?) You can tell that there is a hell of a lot of torque being developed inside this unit. Before I left on this trip, I was spinning 4 heavy linen table cloths and the machines humming noise during the spin was almost deafening. It was well balanced but much louder than normal. My dogs usually are in the kitchen area while I am in there spinning items. I moved them out of there for that spin, just in case. Are you going to return it as a warranty item and ask for a replacement? As both you and Toggle know that while these spinners seem to be well put together the weight of the parts seem to be just a step above Barbie Doll set quality. In the meantime, I am going to call DW and tell her not to use this until I get back home. Then I think I am going to relocate this item to our nearby guest bathroom where I can activate it and then leave the room and close the door.... just in case. I wonder if this was a fatigue failure like that 737 over Hawaii where the roof blew out...... Toggle: Your impressions?

Post# 78367 , Reply# 7 8/15/2005 at 01:00 (6,819 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)
Checkrate/Likes Boschowner: I imagine that while it did it's out of control spin (where it pulled the plug out of the wall) the top flipped open a few times and slammed back down. It probably looked more like the cartoon of the Tasmanian Devil than anything off of I Love Lucy....with a sound to match! When the unit failed, was the sound a "crashing" kind of sound or a "cracking" kind of sound? Or maybe even a "grinding" kind of sound?

Post# 78369 , Reply# 8 8/15/2005 at 01:21 (6,819 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Plastic Chasis* Wow, you wouldnt want to be around that when it happened.. This must be something to do with the plastic chasis.. In all my years of using twinnies & spinners, (and here they spin up to 3,100 rpm pulling up to 1132 g force) I have never heard of a spinner doing that... If only they sold these now!!!

Post# 78377 , Reply# 9 8/15/2005 at 04:19 (6,819 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes I have had a few spinners and never had those problems. A friend of mine once spun a woolen sweater and the sweater went over the top of the drum. It was ruined, but nothing was flying around. Here's a picture of my Miele. 2800rpm and 350W motor.

Post# 78378 , Reply# 10 8/15/2005 at 04:21 (6,819 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes Oh my, I've got to do some dusting in that corner. LOL

Post# 78424 , Reply# 11 8/15/2005 at 10:13 (6,819 days old) by designgeek ()
Checkrate/Likes Mike: I use Seventh Generation, which has a mild orange scent. I think you're probably right about me fiddling with the valve while the unit was in operation, I may have switched it over just after the cycle started (d'oh!). In any case the problem didn't recur and everything seems to be in order. Boschowner: My guess is that the bearing siezed between the spinner and the outer tub. Bearing failures are rare on modern machinery and appliances. Guess #2 is that the brake (the one that is applied when you open the lid) failed in such a manner that it jammed in the works, with the same result as a bearing failure, i.e. the spinner siezed up suddenly. That could be a design issue, and it could occur if the brake is under tension such that opening the lid releases it into place via spring tension or something of that kind. In that case, failure of the lid linkage could cause the brake to apply suddenly, and a materials weakness could cause it to break loose and jam in the works. Mike, I don't think this was caused by the plastic chassis. And in any case, machines made of metal castings and/or fabricated assemblies have a similar potential risk factor, if my guess about bearings or brake assembly is correct. The reason the machine spun around on the floor would have been that all the inertia from the loaded spinner was suddenly transferred to the entire unit. Yes, that's a replace-under-warranty; call the place you bought it, they will almost certainly apologise and offer to send you a new one for cost of shipping. Good to have us all on warning about that problem. I wonder if anyone else has ever had it happen or heard of it, whether on a stand-alone spinner or on a twintub spinner? This is the first instance I've ever heard of. On a twinnie there's less chance of the whole unit spinning around on the floor since the spintub is at one end of a rectangular cabinet that's got about another 50 to 100 lbs. of weight distributed throughout. And also this serves as a good warning about never sticking one's hands in there while the power is on. Yes it can take your hand off, but so can a large fan. All machines have inherent hazards; even hand-tools have hazards; that's the flipside of the benefit they provide. BTW, don't come down hard on the folks who sell these; they would have no way of knowing there's a problem until it gets reported by customers, and they almost certainly have an interest in staying in biz by getting good word-of-mouth. If we hear of another instance, we should report that as well; one case could be an anomaly, but two cases would point to a series defect that the sales organization should know about so they can take appropriate action. Last but not least: Frigidaire, eh? Way cool. Did they sell those in the US as well as in the UK?

Post# 78439 , Reply# 12 8/15/2005 at 11:23 (6,818 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)
Checkrate/Likes Wow! I have never seen a Fridgidaire spinner before! Thanks for posting that photo. The basket on the spinners we have is plastic. I would not be surprised to find plastic parts throughout this machine. On the other hand, I would venture that Miele and Fridgidaire spinners have SS baskets and metal main parts.

Post# 78590 , Reply# 13 8/15/2005 at 21:39 (6,818 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)
Checkrate/Likes Whirlcool / Allen: I'm not getting the impression that mine has "longevity" as its middle name, either. Barbie-doll quality? You are WAY TOO KIND. I do tend to leave it running unattended while I excuse mself to the next room "just in case" If it lives to 2007, in light of the above news, I will consider it a miracle.

Post# 78618 , Reply# 14 8/15/2005 at 22:48 (6,818 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)
Checkrate/Likes *So I'm not the only one...* who "goes into hiding" when these Pakistani spinners are running! I'm interested as to what failed in this failed spinner to determine if the outside cabinet is strong enough to contain any debris should a catastrophic failure of the drum occur. Only time will tell, I guess. The website indicates that the product is in stock and available.

Post# 78669 , Reply# 15 8/16/2005 at 08:54 (6,818 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)
Checkrate/Likes actually, I should say 2006

Post# 84468 , Reply# 16 9/22/2005 at 11:33 (6,780 days old) by hooverac216 ()
Checkrate/Likes well i had that falt with my hoover spinner and when i was sitting on it and it was fun i think i will just go and do it again

Post# 84702 , Reply# 17 9/23/2005 at 09:29 (6,780 days old) by designgeek ()
Checkrate/Likes Any updates on what the diagnosis was for the problem? (Personally I am such a wimp about leaving anything on while unattended, even a fan in the attic hatch! The fridge is the only real exception here, aside from the comms infrastructure.)

Post# 85521 , Reply# 18 9/27/2005 at 11:53 (6,775 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)
Checkrate/Likes *Good Idea!* We haven't discussed the spinners in awhile. Is everyone still happy with theirs? Toggle, your's still running? We use ours weekly, everything gets spun before drying. Clothes look a lot better and drying time is much faster than before without it. However, the spinner seems to be getting noisier. I think it is a resonance problem. The outside panels start vibrating and make quite a racket. I put the spinner on a rubber backed carpet runner and it quieted the unit down considerably. I also have it located in the restroom so in case it does fail, nobody will get hurt. Just about all of our clothes have been spun at least once, so when we spin them now we very rarely see any suds in the spinner rinse water. I think we finally got rid of the detergent build up that was on our clothing. Now if it only will last....

Post# 87728 , Reply# 19 10/8/2005 at 17:23 (6,764 days old) by neptune2000 ()
Checkrate/Likes *Laundry Spinner - opinions please....* Friends: Well, I've been pondering ordering one of these from " The Laundry Alternative " ever since this post started and I became aware that they were available..... Then.... the negative feedback gave me second thoughts ( Barbi Doll Plastic - I don't wish to spend my $ on ! ) Another question: It appears that there is a water inlet connection on the top left side - is this indeed such, and can one spin rinse in one of these ? The website makes no mention of such, and does not identify the " thing " in question. I Have a Maytag Twin Tub which, I have never tested though I have had it for 4 years or so - IF the spinner in it works - and assuming there are no leaks or other problems, would this do as well, from the standpoint of water extraction? I can't find the actual spin speed ( RPM ) of the Maytag Twinny Spinner - if anyone knows, please share. Are there any other spinner alternatives available for the average domestic user? I'd Love to have one of those small BOCK free standing extractors that I remember from every chinese laundry I ever patronized - they looked to be about half the size of any washing machine tub. ( Yes - a Long time ago ) but the only thing available now seems to be these monsters that are big enough to hold a hundred pounds or more - totally impractical. I'd really appreciate any feedback / information that this wonderfull membership can provide... Thanks in advance. Neptune2000 aka: LarryM510@aol.com

Post# 87740 , Reply# 20 10/8/2005 at 20:51 (6,764 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There�s a Lady on Stage)
Checkrate/Likes Currently aside from "Spin-X" and the other "Laundry Alternative", nothing else is sold as a stand alone spin dryer in the United States. IIRC Maytag Porta washers spin lower than the Hoover's TT which is 2,800 rpms. From what one has gleaned in various posts on Yahoo, here and other forums on twin tub/spin driers; unless the unit is designed for a spin rinse, doing so can cause damage. Mind you it may be easy to retro fit something, but again one would have to find the proper water to spin speed. Others would know more than I on this matter, but apparently too much water at once over taxes the motor and pump. Sort of like when some front loading washing machines slow down spinning when too much water/suds are coming at once. I find the Hoover spinner hard to beat. It even extracts water from items spun in high spin front loaders. You might find a small Bock extractor on eBay, but think all models had to be bolted down into concrete. Launderess

Post# 87752 , Reply# 21 10/8/2005 at 21:43 (6,764 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)
Checkrate/Likes BTW my Pakistani, "Laundry Alternatives" plastic spinner still lives! Balnced loading does become more intutive with practise!

Post# 88074 , Reply# 22 10/10/2005 at 09:39 (6,763 days old) by designgeek ()
Checkrate/Likes I think there's always a learning curve when dealing with a new type of appliance. So it makes sense that it took a while with the spinners before everything settled down. Re. spin/rinse cycles: If you shut off the motor and then run water into the spinner as it's winding down to a stop, that will get the load good & wet without overtaxing the motor (which will be off as the unit winds down to stop), and then after it stops, turn it back on again. Repeat as needed. Not exactly the same as the Hoovermatic process, but still useful.

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