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Post# 77535   8/10/2005 at 22:55 (6,825 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Anyone care to guess what this is and when its from???




Post# 77537 , Reply# 1   8/10/2005 at 23:02 (6,825 days old) by tlee618 ()        

I'm thinking maybe a gas incinerator?? Terry Just a guess.

Post# 77540 , Reply# 2   8/10/2005 at 23:28 (6,825 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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my guess is a dishwasher from the 1930's...I read somewhere that they were actually available that far back, but rare...not found in very many homes.

Post# 77542 , Reply# 3   8/10/2005 at 23:33 (6,825 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
That is one of the very first automatic dishwasheers to carr

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That picture is from a book that was put out in 1987 called A walk in the Park the History of Appliance Park. There is a chapter on the history of dishwshers up until 1950 (from there on the book takes a year by year look at GE and Appliance Park) and according to the info in the book this is a 1932 model which was the first one with the GE name.

Post# 77593 , Reply# 4   8/11/2005 at 08:38 (6,825 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
1932

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Very good pat, but I didn't get it out of that 1987 book you describe. It came out of a 1970's magazine reprint. It is the very first GE dishwasher, from 1932. Apparently that black door is actually a shelf that flips up to help in loading and unloading. While this is not anywhere near the first home dishwasher, its GE's first. I post pictures of some very cool even earlier dishwashers later.

Now wouldn't that be a cool find!! I bet it has a green and white speckled porcelain interior with stainless steel racks and a tiny, undersized impeller. I saw an 1930's GE dishwasher once last year as part of a sink combo it was over 55" wide, otherwise I would have taken it home.


Post# 77624 , Reply# 5   8/11/2005 at 11:27 (6,825 days old) by Petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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The earliest dw I recollect seeing was at the Henry Ford in Detroit, much like the early washers it was half wooden barrel(cut lengthwise) like a trough in which a rack for holding dishes was installed, the rack then swung back and forth like a cradle in the tub of water, something like that anyways. Been a while since I saw it.

Post# 77640 , Reply# 6   8/11/2005 at 13:05 (6,825 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
OK Now That We've Seen the 1st GE Dishwasher

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Lets move back in time, shall we. This picture is the 1927 Walker dishwasher...

Post# 77643 , Reply# 7   8/11/2005 at 13:08 (6,825 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
1294 Walker

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And here is the 1924 Walker Dishwasher. The Walker Company was a very big player in the dishwasher market early in the 20th century. I can only imagine what these machines looked like on the inside and how they operated. I wonder if they were automatic or did you fill the machine and flip a switch and waited 10 minutes and the manually stopped the machine? There was no low sudsing soap back then for dishwashing so I wonder how they prevent oversudsing? I assume these are impeller machines, but I don't know that for sure.

Has anyone ever seen a Walker dishwasher like this????


Post# 77650 , Reply# 8   8/11/2005 at 13:25 (6,825 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
GE bought the Walkler company in 1930

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and moved dishwasher production to the Hotpoint factory

Post# 77712 , Reply# 9   8/11/2005 at 20:52 (6,824 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
1928 Walker

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Here is a 1928 Walker Dishwasher Ad. Looks like it has an On/Off Switch plus two buttons.

Post# 77715 , Reply# 10   8/11/2005 at 20:59 (6,824 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Now moving even further back in time...

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Here is what is referred to as a 1911 model Crescent Washing Machine Company Dishwasher. Anyone want to guess what its racks are made out of??? I love the exposed drive belt, could you imagine something like this today???

Post# 77716 , Reply# 11   8/11/2005 at 21:08 (6,824 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Would the racks be wooden?

Post# 77717 , Reply# 12   8/11/2005 at 21:09 (6,824 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Wooden racks?

Post# 77718 , Reply# 13   8/11/2005 at 21:09 (6,824 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        

Robert,
This is awesome stuff.
Where did you find these great ads?
How did the last one work, with the exposed belt.
Very wild.
Brent


Post# 77720 , Reply# 14   8/11/2005 at 21:13 (6,824 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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What I'm wondering is if dishwasher technology was in development so many years ago, why did it take so long for them to become common? Other than my dad's uncle who ran a Chevy dealership and likely had a Frigidaire demo with glass door, no one in my family (grandparents, uncles/aunts/cousins, etc) had a dishwasher until the mid 1970s. Nowadays it's getting rare to find a home or apartment that doesn't have one.

Post# 77726 , Reply# 15   8/11/2005 at 21:27 (6,824 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Doesn't it usually take 20 to 30 years for technolgy and social ieas/ideals to become accepted and common-place?

Also relative costs of a product when new when new. Look at cell phones. As more and more people got one the cost to have one went down. (The fixed costs of the newtork are spread over more and more people.) ALso R&D costs diminishover time as a product matures.

as an example:
Central air is finally becoming more sough-after here as are elctric stoves. Everyone locally says gas is better, until they have had an electric smooth-top. The myth takes time to change.

I am sure in the beginning the idea of letting dirty dishes "pile-up" was considered quite gross if not undesireable, especially in apartment buildngs with insect issues. Now, would anyone not want the DW's ability to de-grease thoroughly?

Darn there I go rambling again..





Post# 77777 , Reply# 16   8/12/2005 at 02:24 (6,824 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
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"What I'm wondering is if dishwasher technology was in development so many years ago, why did it take so long for them to become common? Other than my dad's uncle who ran a Chevy dealership and likely had a Frigidaire demo with glass door, no one in my family (grandparents, uncles/aunts/cousins, etc) had a dishwasher until the mid 1970s. Nowadays it's getting rare to find a home or apartment that doesn't have one."

For one thing, the cleaning ablity of dishwashers gneerally sucked until the mid-Sixties and I also think some people thought that people who had dishwashers were "lazy" or "uppity"


Post# 77778 , Reply# 17   8/12/2005 at 02:37 (6,824 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Miele sold it's first dishwashers in 1929. Here's a brochure. I think I got these pictures from the German club. The first picture shows the front- and backcover. Miele sold lots of products back then, from household appliances, bikes and motorbikes to farm machines.

Post# 77780 , Reply# 18   8/12/2005 at 02:44 (6,824 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Here's the explanation how to use it. You fill it by hand with hot water and ad a product that they call IMI. I have never heard of it and I assume it is something especially made for dishwashers or a cleaning product not longer on the market (very well possible, we're talking 1929 here). You turn the machine on for 3 or 4 minutes and you drain the dirty water. Then you fill it again, this time with boiling water (!!!) and let it run for 1 or 1.5 minute. Drain again and open the machine, most stuff will be dry.

Post# 77781 , Reply# 19   8/12/2005 at 02:50 (6,824 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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The third picture shows how the machine is loaded. It's a propellor machine. At the right you see the BOL machine. The machine is copper and nickel on the inside and painted on the outside. At that time there were many electricity standards. This model was available in 110V in AC or DC and 220V in AC or DC. The AC machines were cheaper than the DC machines.

Post# 77782 , Reply# 20   8/12/2005 at 02:55 (6,824 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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The fourth picture shows the more expensive models. These ones have porcelain on the outside, the BOL model is painted. These models are available in even more electricity standards. Three phase 110/190V or 220/380V, AC 110V or 220V, DC 110V or 220V.

Post# 77834 , Reply# 21   8/12/2005 at 08:57 (6,824 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Wood

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Yes the racks in that 1911 dishwasher were made of wood. Louis, that 1929 Miele dishwasher brochure is very cool! Look how tightly they packed the dishes in, of course in real life no one has just dishes to wash, there a glasses and pots and pans too that need to fit in.

Post# 77857 , Reply# 22   8/12/2005 at 12:35 (6,824 days old) by agiflow ()        

I know of several people who still think the dishwasher is just a frivolous expense that you do not need.

As was mentioned in another post on this thread, the dishwasher is an excellent grease cutter especially on plastics.

I have thrown some really dirty, scroungy, nasty dishes,pots&pans at the WP 8700 and have had great results every time on the Normal wash. Well....there were times i did have to use Heavy wash, but most loads get cleaned with just the one wash.

Anyhow, i guess after you've experienced one you don't ever want to go back to doing all your dishes by hand. I know i don't :-)

Pat


Post# 77858 , Reply# 23   8/12/2005 at 12:45 (6,824 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Fascinating!

Around here, it seems that the blast off year for dishwashers was 1967. We were among the last on our block, in 1973.


I cannot imagine kitchen life without a dishwasher. Doing more than a very few dishes by hand is an enormous bore and hard on the lower back, as well.


Dishwashers make entertaining not only possible, but even appealing. They are wonderful to have on kitchen project days.


Not entirely convinced of the value of "sani"-cycles,
but I completely believe that a good dishwasher cleans better than washing by hand, anyway. Unless a person uses Purell, or similar, after they open the machine, and before unloading, there are a few germs on the hands.


At church, we have always had a Hobart (we're on our second, the first was original to the 1956 construction), and a few of the wooden racks still are there, but of course the City Health Department does not let us use them.


Lawrence/Maytagbear



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