Unusual color BD?

Erik -

I think the toast and platinum colors lasted a bit longer than two years, as I've seem some 1986 and 1988 model Direct Drive washers in those colors. There was even a platinum machine on here in the deluxe forum a few months ago that had a color-coordinated gray control console, which would make it a 1990s model.

The basket mounted lint filter debuted in some later versions of 1981 and 1982 models as a running change in those machines which were initially equipped with tub mounted filters. I believe this happened in 1982. The 1983 models had them from the beginning.

I used to think the tub mounted, pump flushed filters were much more effective than the basket mounted filters, however I have never had a lint issue with my 1986 belt-drive machine which I bought new. Recently, I have used a few belt-drives in my garage that were not permanently installed. I drained the standard rubber drain hose into a 3-inch diameter, 20-foot plastic drain pipe that I dumped into the yard to water the grass. The first machine, my 1980 fancy 80-series, has a tub mounted filter. It leaves a characteristic deposit of lint in the grass where I drain the washer water using that long hose. The next machine, a 1982 Kenmore 60 with manual filter did not leave any lint in the grass. Surprisingly, the third machine is 1986 version of the very same machine as pictured above, with the basket disc filter. It leaves as much lint in the grass as the 1980 machine. I was stunned to see that.

As to how the basket mounted filter is cleaned - it seems to me that the pump draining action, not the spin, is the key. ALL machines that have a basket mounted filter use a specific 2-port pump which is different than the 2-port of old. This pump debuted in 1974 on some models with the manual filter. That particular pump works dramatically faster than the older pumps and used to cause a lot of laundry room flooding as the sudden rush of water in the black rubber drain hose caused the hose to fly out of the standpipe or sink, flooding the floor.

On the 1981 and 1982 models that originally had a tub mounted filter, the pump was changed to a new two-port, non-recirculating pump when the disc filter was added and the models received a running engineering change. This pump works in one direction only (the old two port operates in two directions), so on suds-saver versions of these machines, the original tub-mounted filters were used up to the end of the belt-drives, along with the older recirculating/reversible pumps. The machines needed the old-style pumps to bring the suds water back into the machine. My theory is that if the fast new-style pump was not needed to make the basket filter work, the suds models would have a basket mounted filter too. WP would not have kept the old filters and accomodating outer tubs available if they could have been eliminated from production.

Next time I run a basket mounted filter model attached to my yard-drain set-up, I'll be sure to see when the lint appears in the grass - either during the drain or during the spin, then I'll know for sure!

Gordon


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Post# 446940 7/4/2010 at 13:37 (5,034 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)
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Post# 446954 , Reply# 1 7/4/2010 at 14:31 (5,034 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)
Checkrate/Likes Suppose it could be "Platinum", but it's probably white, with the lighting conditions making it look otherwise.

Post# 446968 , Reply# 2 7/4/2010 at 15:40 (5,034 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)
Checkrate/Likes Kenny - The machine is a member of the 1983 belt-drive line - the final issue of belt-drive models for Sears sales floors (there were some 1984 models designed for Toyota). Without looking at a model or stock number, one can tell it's an '83 model by the '70 Series' notation above the Heavy Duty / Plus logo on the right front of the console, as 81 and 82 models did not have their series printed. This machine is a 70-series, one of four in that line, and the best selling of the group, of the entire line-up in fact, which encompassed 10 large capacity models, and one or two 24-inch machines (that were not DDs). This model was intially available in white, almond, golden wheat, avocado, and coffee. Later toast and platinum were added, I believe in 1984. My guess is that the machine is white and it's just a lousy picture. Gordon

Post# 447020 , Reply# 3 7/4/2010 at 19:17 (5,034 days old) by duet83 ()
Checkrate/Likes *My guess is that the machine is white and it's just a lo* I have to agree, unfortunately. But the heading got me excited. It could well be one of the platinum, but that would be rare. I think Sears only did the Patinum and Toast colors for 2 years. That would have been 84 and 85, if I recall correctly. If I'm not mistaken, these models no longer had a tub mounted/pump connected lint filter. Instead the lint filter was mounted on the inner tub and relied on the spin to spin out the lint during rinse.

Post# 447044 , Reply# 4 7/4/2010 at 20:38 (5,034 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)
Checkrate/Likes Erik - I think the toast and platinum colors lasted a bit longer than two years, as I've seem some 1986 and 1988 model Direct Drive washers in those colors. There was even a platinum machine on here in the deluxe forum a few months ago that had a color-coordinated gray control console, which would make it a 1990s model. The basket mounted lint filter debuted in some later versions of 1981 and 1982 models as a running change in those machines which were initially equipped with tub mounted filters. I believe this happened in 1982. The 1983 models had them from the beginning. I used to think the tub mounted, pump flushed filters were much more effective than the basket mounted filters, however I have never had a lint issue with my 1986 belt-drive machine which I bought new. Recently, I have used a few belt-drives in my garage that were not permanently installed. I drained the standard rubber drain hose into a 3-inch diameter, 20-foot plastic drain pipe that I dumped into the yard to water the grass. The first machine, my 1980 fancy 80-series, has a tub mounted filter. It leaves a characteristic deposit of lint in the grass where I drain the washer water using that long hose. The next machine, a 1982 Kenmore 60 with manual filter did not leave any lint in the grass. Surprisingly, the third machine is 1986 version of the very same machine as pictured above, with the basket disc filter. It leaves as much lint in the grass as the 1980 machine. I was stunned to see that. As to how the basket mounted filter is cleaned - it seems to me that the pump draining action, not the spin, is the key. ALL machines that have a basket mounted filter use a specific 2-port pump which is different than the 2-port of old. This pump debuted in 1974 on some models with the manual filter. That particular pump works dramatically faster than the older pumps and used to cause a lot of laundry room flooding as the sudden rush of water in the black rubber drain hose caused the hose to fly out of the standpipe or sink, flooding the floor. On the 1981 and 1982 models that originally had a tub mounted filter, the pump was changed to a new two-port, non-recirculating pump when the disc filter was added and the models received a running engineering change. This pump works in one direction only (the old two port operates in two directions), so on suds-saver versions of these machines, the original tub-mounted filters were used up to the end of the belt-drives, along with the older recirculating/reversible pumps. The machines needed the old-style pumps to bring the suds water back into the machine. My theory is that if the fast new-style pump was not needed to make the basket filter work, the suds models would have a basket mounted filter too. WP would not have kept the old filters and accomodating outer tubs available if they could have been eliminated from production. Next time I run a basket mounted filter model attached to my yard-drain set-up, I'll be sure to see when the lint appears in the grass - either during the drain or during the spin, then I'll know for sure! Gordon

Post# 447046 , Reply# 5 7/4/2010 at 20:46 (5,034 days old) by ingliscanada ()
Checkrate/Likes *BDs continued here* In Canada, the BD WP (Inglis) washers continued right to the end of the 80's. Then the DDs came in to replace them.

Post# 447051 , Reply# 6 7/4/2010 at 20:59 (5,034 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)
Checkrate/Likes I'd love to see some of the later Canadian BDs, or the last of the BDs in Brazil from Brastemp. Something I forgot to mention in my brief (lol) note above. The machines that had the triple dispenser, such as the 1983-1986 Lady K and the 1982-up Electronic model never got the basket mounted filters. Even in non-suds models, they had the tub mounted filters. These models needed the old four-port pump (a 2-port with a lower lobe of two additional ports) to feed the dispenser. These were sort of old-school filters by 1986. Gordon

Post# 447054 , Reply# 7 7/4/2010 at 21:26 (5,034 days old) by duet83 ()
Checkrate/Likes "I drained the standard rubber drain hose into a 3-inch diameter, 20-foot plastic drain pipe that I dumped into the yard to water the grass" Wow Gordon, that brings back memories. When I was like 14 or so, I got my first Washer, an Avacodo 1968ish GE with sudsaver. I had it in our detached garage(about 15' from house). I ran a pipe from the basement for water and draineded it with into a 1 1/2" black corrugated sump pump hose onto the lawn. WOW. Memories. I had my toy. That washer had 4 switches on the left, 2 chrome knobs an incandescent back lit timer. what I call the medium height console. Not short like the BOL models were and not tall, with the extra tall console mounting panel on back and the flourescent light. thanks for the infor on Sand and Platinum. I think even into the mid 80s Sears and GE were still offering a FEW models (refrigs, DWs, and stoves) in Harvest Gold. I don't know if that is what happened with Platinum and Toast/Sand. heres a question you might know. Were Sand and Toast the same color? It seems to me Sand was more brown and toast was a variation of harvest gold.

Post# 447065 , Reply# 8 7/4/2010 at 23:08 (5,034 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)
Checkrate/Likes When Kenny said unusual color, I was hoping it was the rare "Edged Sapphire Blue" from the late 60's.