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Post# 452849   7/29/2010 at 18:43 (4,991 days old) by washran (Appleton Wisconsin)        

Any word when Whirlpool will come out with the new Washing machines... I have been hitting the website and still not here.... Thanks




Post# 452873 , Reply# 1   7/29/2010 at 21:08 (4,991 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Two models are on Whirlpool's site.  WTW5600XW and WTW5500XW are the new mechanical design.


Post# 452957 , Reply# 2   7/30/2010 at 04:36 (4,991 days old) by jaxsunst ()        

I saw one in Lowes last night. It looks like a regular Cabrio, but with a GE Harmony like dispenser drawer.

Post# 452977 , Reply# 3   7/30/2010 at 08:17 (4,990 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Lowes Trip

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I will need to plan a trip to Lowes to check them out...


Malcolm


Post# 452987 , Reply# 4   7/30/2010 at 09:39 (4,990 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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No reviews of the Whirlpool 5500 or 5600 at Consumer Reports online.

They did, however, just test a new Maytag Bravos; model MVWB300W(Q). Don't know if this has the new, simplified innards. In fact, I'm not even sure the new design will get a Maytag release.

Glenn, can you weigh in on this one?


Post# 452998 , Reply# 5   7/30/2010 at 10:18 (4,990 days old) by washran (Appleton Wisconsin)        
Just hopen for some video

I was looking for some video of the new system or to see what Whirlpool was doing for its website Cant wait... i could almost pee in my pants... wait.. stain cycle.... LOL

Post# 453047 , Reply# 6   7/30/2010 at 12:26 (4,990 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        
video of the new system

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It's not really a new system. It's basically got similar underpinnings to the portable world washer. The WP version should be in stores now, the Maytag will be out shortly.

Eugene, that is a regular cabrio/bravos washer. The new washer's Maytag model number will start something like MVWX... I'm not sure what the WP will sell for, but expect the Maytag to start at about $529-549 or somewhere in there.


Post# 453139 , Reply# 7   7/30/2010 at 18:57 (4,990 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Thanks for the clarification on that, Todd. My local Maytag/Frigidaire dealer is no longer stocking any impeller machines. He said the ones he's sold have racked up so many returns and complaints that he's going with front-loaders and traditional-agitator Frigidaires and Maytags.

He also said he sells very few TL'ers these days. He tends to stock lower-to-middle-of-the-line front-loaders, which have been selling well.


Post# 453285 , Reply# 8   7/31/2010 at 08:03 (4,989 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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I don't stock a Bravos, but would special order one. I can honestly say, I have had no one come in and specifically ask for the impellers at all. My best sellers are TL machines. In my area, people complain that they hate bending into a washer, even though no one says a word about bending into a dryer. Go figure.

Post# 453292 , Reply# 9   7/31/2010 at 08:26 (4,989 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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I think they dislike bending into the washer because of the weight of the clothing. That's just my guess. it's never bothered me.

Post# 453298 , Reply# 10   7/31/2010 at 09:04 (4,989 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        
it's never bothered me.

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ditto

Post# 453459 , Reply# 11   8/1/2010 at 07:26 (4,988 days old) by mayguy (Minnesota)        
Bending over.

Yeah, I had customer say the same too. Once I point out about well, you bend over for the dryer... Then they don't say anything more.. We sell more FL than TL here.

Post# 453651 , Reply# 12   8/1/2010 at 22:38 (4,988 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Mayguy.....I know

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I always found it strange that people were put off by front loaders because of the bending over involved because you have to bend over for the dryer, and the dryer's of the past were always "front loading" and not on any sort of pedestal.

Post# 454220 , Reply# 13   8/3/2010 at 14:34 (4,986 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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For me what i don't like about a front load washer is i don't think that the washe is efficent as to when the clothe are wash by a conventenial top loading washer with agitator and what i hate the most as well is the fact that you can't add anything new once the washe cycle as begun and there is also the fact that fo me they are not adequate for loading the washer or unlodaing when putting the clothe in the dryer. So for me the next washer that i will be buying is a good old fashion toploading washer with an agitator.

Post# 454223 , Reply# 14   8/3/2010 at 14:44 (4,986 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Add an Item

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I don't know of any front load washers that you can't open and add an item after the cycle has begun. Please enlighten...

Malcolm


Post# 454230 , Reply# 15   8/3/2010 at 15:15 (4,986 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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for me on my duet set i can open my duet washer druing the cycle but only at the beginning when the add garment light is on and its on during 8 minutes and after 8 minutes if i have something to add its to late for me since even if i would pause to add something after 8 minutes the door would remain close and lock.

Post# 454236 , Reply# 16   8/3/2010 at 15:30 (4,986 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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... since even if i would pause to add something after 8 minutes the door would remain close and lock.
Are you sure? You've tried doing that and confirmed the door won't unlock?


Post# 454247 , Reply# 17   8/3/2010 at 15:40 (4,986 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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yes i know but i never try and my fl model is a whirlpool duet model from the year 2004 or 2005

Post# 454308 , Reply# 18   8/3/2010 at 19:18 (4,986 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
Whirlpool Duet Sport

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I found one here at a neighbor's front trash pile and brought it home. The mildew was horrific but, I put it on the "whitest whites" cycle using straight Clorox and some Lysol disinfectant.It came out o.k and I washed 7 loads of real dirty farm clothes dropped off to be cleaned and there were no other issues.It worked fine. I was surprised at the outcome of the loads and recently sold it to a "cousin" here and she's real happy with it so far.It does the same amount of wash as the Frigidaire with the rectangular door and spins about 1,000 RPMS at the end of the cycle.It runs a bit loud at the sppin cycles but,there is a note on the dispenser drawer stating that there is an unusualy noisy sound during the spin. It was placed there at the factory.Before I read that, I was assuming that the barings may be faulty but,that wasn't the case.I like the Sport better than the Duet full size models (KitchenAid)I had in FL.

Post# 454806 , Reply# 19   8/5/2010 at 16:36 (4,984 days old) by washran (Appleton Wisconsin)        
The Advantage is out

Website is up... wow 2000 for a washer and 2000 for a dryer man the guts better be made of gold!




Post# 454811 , Reply# 20   8/5/2010 at 17:28 (4,984 days old) by BobbyD32L ()        
New Whirlpool TL

We have all the new Whirlpool, Maytag, and Kenmore TL machines with the new belt drive, wash plate... They work exactly like the original carbio/bravo/oasis machines did except they don't have a recirculate pump. They fill through a detergent draw rather than the dispensers. They are pretty quiet as well and have an 800 rpm final spin speed. We have sold a few and so far so good. The Kenmore comes in 500 600 and 800 series... I would imagine that they will be the replacement for the direct drives very soon. I am still trying to figure out how to defeat the locking lid too :)

Post# 454936 , Reply# 21   8/6/2010 at 09:47 (4,983 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        
They work exactly like the original carbio/bravo/oasis machi

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That's not exactly true. The new washers do not float the tub, but the acutal Bravos/Cabrios do. It's a whole different system but the washers use the same name.

Post# 454937 , Reply# 22   8/6/2010 at 09:54 (4,983 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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Do you think the changes to the tub and motor system were so that Whirlpool would no longer be using F&P technology? Perhaps they were paying a royalty to F&P.

Post# 454942 , Reply# 23   8/6/2010 at 10:32 (4,983 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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They'll still have the FP based Cabrio & Bravos. The new washers are based off the world washer portable washer. It's much much cheaper to build than the direct drive washers & they were able to achieve energy star ratings. I just think it is dumb to use the Cabrio/Bravos name for the new washer. To have the same name on two different technologies makes no sense to me.

Post# 454945 , Reply# 24   8/6/2010 at 10:39 (4,983 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
Adding items

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My Maypool, Duet cousin will let you open the door to add an item for the first eight minutes of the wash. After that time you can still open the door by pressing pause, but it will no longer add water to compensate for a dry item being added.

The only time during a cycle that you can't open the door by pressing pause is if the water level is too high, as what happens during a delicate cycle, or if the water temp is too hot as in a sanitize cycle, or washer clean cycle. In these cases pressing pause will cause the machine to drain and / or add cold water before allowing the door to open.


Post# 454967 , Reply# 25   8/6/2010 at 12:15 (4,983 days old) by davek ()        

I honestly don't see how the World Washer could be any cheaper to build than the DD, at least when size is taken into consideration. As a sometime engineering student, I've considered the DD to be a marvel of cost cutting that didn't harm the user. In fact, I felt that several of the DD's design elements were both cost and problem cutting and would ultimately be gains in customer satisfaction. The motor/pump stack is a very elegant parts cutting solution, and is quick and easy to service besides.

When they inevitably stop building the DD, I'll be sad to see it go. I think of it as a very simple and effective machine.


Post# 454982 , Reply# 26   8/6/2010 at 13:23 (4,983 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I might pay upwards of $2000 on a front-loading washer full of features---the new top-of-the-line LG with a color LED touchscreen and multiple action tumbling is $1800---but I'd never, ever pay that for an impeller top-loader. I don't care how chromed and sexy it is.

Post# 455168 , Reply# 27   8/7/2010 at 10:53 (4,982 days old) by magic clean ()        
Dave

the new washer has many fewer parts than the direct-drive. Between just the drive system and suspension there are 80+ less "bits & pieces" that comprise individual components & assemblies.

Post# 455186 , Reply# 28   8/7/2010 at 11:48 (4,982 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        
pause button on Frigidaire 2140

I can hit the Pause button at any point in the wash cycle, in two seconds the door lock disengages, and a stray article may be added. Of course, if the main wash portion is 10-14 minutes, and you add an article ten minutes after start up, the article may not be washed properly, but you can add extra items any time during wash. In addition, I have observed the machine adding extra water when a few absorbent items (towels) were added late. The towels absorb water, dropping the tub water level, which triggers an extra fill of water to return to the preset water level, even half way through the wash cycle.

Post# 455857 , Reply# 29   8/10/2010 at 07:20 (4,979 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Big World Washer

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Will there be a big version of the world washer with an agitator?

Malcolm



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