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Thread Number: 29821
For those with little room, there's Maytag Porta-Pair |
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Post# 453377 7/31/2010 at 20:33 (5,007 days old) by gansky1  (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 453378 , Reply# 1 7/31/2010 at 20:34 (5,007 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 453379 , Reply# 2 7/31/2010 at 20:34 (5,007 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 453380 , Reply# 3 7/31/2010 at 20:35 (5,007 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 453381 , Reply# 4 7/31/2010 at 20:36 (5,007 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 453382 , Reply# 5 7/31/2010 at 20:36 (5,007 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 453383 , Reply# 6 7/31/2010 at 20:37 (5,007 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 453384 , Reply# 7 7/31/2010 at 20:37 (5,007 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 453386 , Reply# 8 7/31/2010 at 20:40 (5,007 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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Admittedly, I am not someone who gets excited about the spin speed of washers, but I would love to see 2,000 rpms. Have a good one, James | ||
| Post# 453392 , Reply# 9 7/31/2010 at 21:59 (5,007 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi) | ||
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I just luv Ms. Blonde's 1970 flip style "do". Bet she uses Self-Styling Adorn,lol! | ||
| Post# 453393 , Reply# 10 7/31/2010 at 22:03 (5,007 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi) | ||
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BTW, doesn't the "cover lady" remind you of "Nanny and The Professor"? lol | ||
| Post# 453400 , Reply# 11 7/31/2010 at 22:31 (5,007 days old) by washernoob () | ||
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Cool! That has to be one of the coolest lil combos ever! Love the colors. The hair! the dresses! Ah the fabulous 60s!!! :) | ||
| Post# 453408 , Reply# 12 7/31/2010 at 22:55 (5,007 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Great Scans I wonder why Maytag did not make an "apartment" size automatic washer? | ||
| Post# 453411 , Reply# 13 7/31/2010 at 23:23 (5,007 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
2,000 rpm... | ||
| Post# 453420 , Reply# 14 8/1/2010 at 00:18 (5,007 days old) by duet83 () | ||
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I want a pair. And her Avacodo, rotary dial wall phone. In Avacodo. 2000 rpm is impressive, for sure. I wonder what the dependability was on these. | ||
| Post# 453457 , Reply# 15 8/1/2010 at 07:03 (5,006 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) | ||
Une Essoreuse.
"Admittedly, I am not someone who gets excited about the spin speed of washers, but I would love to see 2,000 rpms."
It's impressive. When I was in school in Paris, the dormitory laundry had a Vintage Miele front loader, a brand new Miele Commercial dryer(which reversed tumbling direction every minute or so), and a new Miele extractor, or as they called it, "une essoreuse". That thing was amazing. You'd put your wet laundry in it from the washer, put a rubber spider-web thingy on top of it, close the lid, move a lever over the lid to start it, and it would wind up to 2000 rpm's in about 30 seconds. It had a drain spout on the side of it and you could watch all that water just belch out of that cylinder. It made the drying only take about 15 minutes. Even then, in 1978, I knew the French were much smarter than we about energy conservation. I still want one and am waiting for Miele to market them here. Made the mistake once of not putting the rubber web on top of the laundry. Two of my cotton T-shirts ended up shredded. But damp dry. | ||
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Post# 453465 , Reply# 17 8/1/2010 at 07:54 (5,006 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Ah yes but 2,000 RPM alone does NOT tell the whole story. The diameter of the tub COMBINED with the RPMs is what determines G-force and ultimately the amount of water extraction.
My Hotpoint 80's electric dryer is working on 110v (in the kitchen) in that my residence does not have 220v. I find that when the oven or top-burner are on in the kitchen, clothes dry quicker. Of course, one has to be careful not to run the dryer when cooking smelly things, or the load will stink! That dryer BTW does not have a cool-down period. Found one at a garage-sale. The vent is only 3 inches (76mm) in diameter instead of 4" (102mm). | ||
| Post# 453489 , Reply# 18 8/1/2010 at 10:17 (5,006 days old) by duet83 () | ||
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their so cute though. I wonder if there is some way to wire a solenoid to them to allow faster fill. | ||
| Post# 453512 , Reply# 19 8/1/2010 at 11:33 (5,006 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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Not really... | ||
| Post# 453528 , Reply# 20 8/1/2010 at 13:29 (5,006 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
OH OH OH OH | ||
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Post# 453541 , Reply# 21 8/1/2010 at 14:16 (5,006 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Great Scans! Thanks for posting!
Twin Tub Rinsing:
Much like wringer washing one simply either must be prepared to use lots of water and have allot of time, or deal with various amounts of residue (detergent, soils, etc). Unlike wringers however, spin rinsing in a twin tub *can* give good results, but only if the load is small enough to allow good saturation with fresh water. A mixed load of various items can be "spin rinsed", that is items soaked with water, then spun out quite well in my Hoover TT, but large items such as sheets and such really require a deep rinse. Mind you, since both Hoover's and Maytag's extractors (Hoover's was faster),had such high rpm spins, more soap, water and residue was removed from wash compared to many larger washing machines, however the trade off was one having to deal with all that noise. The Hoover spinner is not exactly quiet. Having the small Whirlpool portable washer, one can see how fully automatic washing machines killed off twin tubs. One or two loads in my Hoover is *ok*, but more than that and the process gets old quickly. Cannot imagine doing a full week's wash for a family of four using a twin tub. Filling A Twin Tub: All depends upon the flow rate out of the faucet. Before we had new fittings placed in the kichen and bathroom, both pumped out water so fast that in the case of the washing machines and dishwasher, units would finish filling long before the time alloted on the timer gave out. Now things are slower. Hair Styles in Brouchure: All were *very* popular in the late 1960's and through the 1970's. Most all female television sitcom characters of the period (Samantha Stevens included), sported one or the other at one point. The exception being Mrs. Mike Brady, who wore that short pixe cut. | ||
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Post# 453542 , Reply# 22 8/1/2010 at 14:17 (5,006 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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| Post# 453611 , Reply# 23 8/1/2010 at 19:54 (5,006 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Maytag A50
A couple of things to add:
1.) Maytag uses an induction motor for the spinner, it is a very quiet spinner, it's quieter than the wash motor on a Hoover. 2.) Spin rinsing is not recommended in an A50. My opinion of this is if you own an A50 and you spin rinse with enough water to do the job, you are shortening the life of your spin motor terribly. These are just not set up for that, the motor takes a lot of load on startup, and it gets very warm if you strain it. I thought, because I was used to a Hoover, that surely one spin rinses in all twin tubs. I discovered how hot the spin motor got in the Maytag when laboring to speed. Spin speed is roughly 2000rpm btw. Porta-matics are great, but there is something that lures me to the twin tubs. The Hoover is my favorite, but sometimes its nice to roll out the Maytags for a "quiet" wash :) -Tim | ||
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Post# 453886 , Reply# 24 8/2/2010 at 17:14 (5,005 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Which came first: Porta-Pair or Porta-Potty? | ||
| Post# 454443 , Reply# 26 8/4/2010 at 09:43 (5,003 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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A50
I have attached a crude diagram of the drain system. The drain setup is nearly identical to the Hoovers that you are familiar with. The machine's 1 pump is belt driven from the spinner motor and is attached to a spring loaded arm that acts as a belt tensioner much like a Maytag automatic. There is a diverter valve with front panel control used to select which one to drain.
I assume that the motor that is used is simply not powerful until it gets up to speed, it doesn't handle strain at startup very well and takes a bit to get up to speed. This is my guess for the slip-belt and spring-arm pump housing. The dual impellers WOULD be better if the tub were larger, but as it stands the tub is just too small. The wash tub is deep but small diameter, if you overload the machine which isn't hard, you get similar tangles as a Hoover. The reversing I think mainly allows for more movement of the clothes in that small space. If the clothes stop moving in one direction, which they sometimes do, it reverses and sucks them back down the other direction. The machine is only 24" wide as the Hoover is 29" and the Servis based units are 32" wide so it's tiny. It doesn't handle large items well like plus size khakis and only one pair of jeans per wash cycle. This machine is just a different breed in many respects than most European units, I'd say the motors used being the biggest difference, but size and characteristics as well. The lack of spin rinse also deals it a blow on that market. If it were introduced on the market there it would have failed horribly I believe. For the US market, in which this was a much more out of the way niche market it survived on the Maytag name and the size. That's not saying it was a hot seller, but sold enough for Maytag to make them from 1970 to 1982. I enjoy the A50, even for it's short comings. If you use the matching DE50 like I do, the wash and dry times (roughly 60 minutes per basket) sync up with each other nicely. The pump drains the wash water out in about a minute flat and so it's not that bad for me, I also use conditioner in the rinse so with a deep rinse, spotting is less likely. I think portable was the key and Maytag won that one, it's to my knowledge the smallest domestic twintub made. It's a solid built machine that's long lasting. The size to me makes the slight compromises more reasonable. -Tim 
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Post# 454461 , Reply# 27 8/4/2010 at 11:32 (5,003 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Simon!
"the dual impellers look like they give more 'oomph' than the Hoover type" - I think you need to wash your mouth out with a large spoonful of new improved Drive young man!
As you well know (cos you posted the vids on YouTube) there is no wishy-washy action with Hoover! The Pulsator Boiling Action Correction Squad is probably heading south from the Midlands as I type ..... Al PS In spite of her loading the washing into a HM5054 the close up indicates agitator action :) CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK | ||
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Post# 454682 , Reply# 30 8/5/2010 at 04:40 (5,003 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Well to be honest ...
Hoovermatics are not my favourites either (gasps and sharp intakes of breath everywhere!). I like the Supermatic too, but it has a disadvantage for me in that it is a bit low - something that wont bother you LOLOLOLOLOL!
Nope for me its the Supertwin that wins the prize, for a combination of wash performance & styling. Took loads of footage of Supertwins at Mike's last wash in, just need to get it up on YouTube. Al CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK | ||
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