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My First Classic Washing Machine - A Hoover Top Loader!
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Post# 455972   8/10/2010 at 14:35 (4,979 days old) by HooverJames ()        

Hi everyone,

My name is James and I was previously known as "HotpointJames" here. At the young age of 15 I have found my first item for my collection... a Hoover 1321A Top Loader circa 1960's! I haven't seen much about this machine here but it was built in Britain and it was my long deceased aunt's. Now she was from Antrim and it was passed down to my great granny's here in Co. Donegal. I have never known of it's existence until today! It's in ok condition, little bit rusty here and there but the tub is in immaculate condition, it appears that the chicken coop I found it in was very good at keeping the weather out and the heat in! I haven't taken any pics yet and I didn't get a look inside the workings either but I will restore it to working order and I will get any parts needed if need be. Pics tomorrow hopefully and I will test if it works too. Can anyone confirm when it was built and supply some pics of it in brocheres etc.

Model 1321A
Serial 132181211481

Regards, James.





Post# 455994 , Reply# 1   8/10/2010 at 16:14 (4,979 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Interesting

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I'd love to see this machine, please post some photos :)

-Tim


Post# 456004 , Reply# 2   8/10/2010 at 16:43 (4,979 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Tim

Hi,

It's not located at my house but at my granny's house 2 miles up the road and I'll be there tomorrow to try it out and there will be pics tomorrow night. Does anybody know where I can source spares?

James.


Post# 456005 , Reply# 3   8/10/2010 at 16:48 (4,979 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hiya James.

Congrats on a nice little find and starting your collection.

Judging from the serial number you wrote, your machine dates from December 1968, so is rapidly approaching its 42nd birthday.

Have a piccy of 1321A in a brochure, but the brochure isnt mine and was lifted from one of the yahoo groups. So thanks should go to the owner of the manual who originally scanned and uploaded it to the net.

Cheers
paul


Post# 456010 , Reply# 4   8/10/2010 at 17:04 (4,979 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Hi Paul,

I never thought I would meet people over an appliance LOL! Thanks, I was very thrilled to find it and when it's pristine again I will christen it "Tilly" after my deceased aunt I never met it came from. I think I should be thankful for my parents respecting my interest and my find, if it was coming to my own house they wouldn't be pleased LOL! But I've secured a place for it at the my gran's yard I found it in so everything is good and it should be dry and warm in a well sealed wooden shed until I buy my own place. It did leave a rusty patch where it was standing over the years but hopefuly it will work when it's plugged in tommorrow. The rubber pipes are not in good shape though and I need to find some as well as any other spares I need. Hopefully my local leccy shop will track some down. Thanks again Paul and I will be posting some pics tomorrow.

James.


Post# 456160 , Reply# 5   8/11/2010 at 09:45 (4,978 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Paint

Hi,

I have bought white appliance paint for touching up the body and silver for the lid. Will they tie in with the aging paintwork? What can I use on the dark grey skirt at the bottom? Black? I've checked underneath too and luckily no rust! The big switch on is tonight and hopefully not much will need replacing. I will take the back panel off soon.

James.


Post# 456181 , Reply# 6   8/11/2010 at 12:08 (4,978 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Hoover White

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Hello James

Well done on getting this great classic machine, i hope you enjoy using it.

You might find modern appliance white paint a bit too white, but try it by all means.

All the Hoover machines i have owned have all been slightly different shades of white to each other anyway, some times i go to halfords and get a close match using car paint.

if they are different then other than doing a complete re-spray not a lot you can do, unless you know a freindly paint spray shop who will match the colour for you

As regards parts Ebay is a good place to try, there is a place in Dublin who is a Hoover specialist called Carrickhoover centre i have spoken to the owner a few times and he knows his stuff.

Good Luck

Here is a link


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Post# 456208 , Reply# 7   8/11/2010 at 13:50 (4,978 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Rubber pipes

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James
You will need to make sure that the pipe which runs along the back of the machine is intact and in place - or else make a substitute for it, or you will have water everywhere. The drain pump runs all the while with the motor and it depends on this hose being wedged in place to stop the draining action.

You will see this at the very end of link from our very own 74Simon - the machine is not the same as yours but the principle is the same. Finally make sure that the tub is filled right up to the fill line and in particular that the the pulsator is COMPLETELY covered, otherwise you will find that there in another way entirely to empty about 1/2 the water out of the tub.

Good luck and enjoy!
Al


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Post# 456209 , Reply# 8   8/11/2010 at 13:58 (4,978 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Paul's Brochure ...

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Is interesting because it shows the transition between models. The spin drier has the later and more modern squared off styling whilst the washer is the older rounded style - I wonder how they displayed the Hoover Twosome which was a means of linking the two separate units (washer and spin drier) with a bridging piece to make a twin tub
Al


Post# 456237 , Reply# 9   8/11/2010 at 15:10 (4,978 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Very Happy...

Hi,

I never thought this machine would be popular with you lot considering it's a basic model. I'm planning to start painting tomorrow. To me, white is white and silver is silver. It's not really something to cry about if the shade turns out wrong. All that matters is that I've found it and it's in ok condition from what I can see. No big turn on tonight I'm afraid but it will be soon. The pipe at the rear of the tub is fitted and it appears to be ok, there is a second one too. The only other pipe I need is the longer one with the tap attachment (I think) there was one but the rubber was cracked. I never thought I would come across something like this considering all the good stuff is on ebay.co.uk! Thanks for the links and as promised here are some pics! Focus on the machine and don't mind the surroundings LOL! Tell me what you lot think about the condition etc. By the way, the back panel screws are either a bit tight or too rusty, will WD40 do the trick? The thing inside the tub is a draining board I think? It was inside but I don't know if it came with it.

James.


Post# 456238 , Reply# 10   8/11/2010 at 15:13 (4,978 days old) by HooverJames ()        
1321A

Front

Post# 456239 , Reply# 11   8/11/2010 at 15:14 (4,978 days old) by HooverJames ()        
1321A

Back

Post# 456241 , Reply# 12   8/11/2010 at 15:14 (4,978 days old) by HooverJames ()        
1321A

Basic Dial

Post# 456242 , Reply# 13   8/11/2010 at 15:15 (4,978 days old) by HooverJames ()        
1321A

Tub

Post# 456259 , Reply# 14   8/11/2010 at 16:58 (4,978 days old) by 74simon ()        
Hey James,

Well done on your first find, nice that it's a family heirloom too!

Hope you've kept the fill/empty pipe, they're no longer available although the one that runs across the back is. It's probably still watertight, I use Armor All plastic protector on mine to help preserve them, and once it's had hot water run through it, it'll hopefully get more supple. With persistence you might find a new-old stock one. Do you know when the machine was last used?

Try polishing it with T-cut before you repaint it, then you can probably get away with just touching the paintwork up. Might also be worth mixing a little black enamel paint into the appliance paint to get it nearer the original shade.

Also, safety! If your gran's home doesn't have an RCD at the fusebox, you can pick up ones that plug in for a fiver or so - they act fast enough to prevent electric shock should a problem occur. WD40 should help the screws, when you've gotten the back off you can check to make sure nothing has seized up.

The 'draining board' is actually the lid for the wash tub, it slides under the brackets on either side of the tub at the back (see the brochure picture of the 0321). The reason for two lids is that the outer one can be used as a worktop when the machine isn't being used, and on the wringer machines it fits onto the back for wrung washing to land on - handy because Hoovers were too low for the wash to be wrung directly into the sink. When you empty it, keep the lid on, otherwise you'll get soaked as once the water gets down to the impeller it sprays everywhere, like Al says!

This is a fun little machine, it has a fixed motor so is more vigorous than the later square cabinet machines and will hopefully scrub up nice! You know you're going to have to find a spin dryer to go with it now!

Al - for some reason, the square cabinet ST wasn't introduced until 1971, I believe the corresponding spinners came out with the squared up TTs in '68.

Si


Post# 456265 , Reply# 15   8/11/2010 at 17:19 (4,978 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Spinners

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Simon,

I think the square spinners were a bit later than 1968, as my Mum got a (new) Spinarinse around Christmas 1970 (I think! - maybe 1971) and it was the rounded style with the charcoal grey plastic lid. The squared off version appeared not long after she got it - no doubt others will have the exact date.

James - just had an idea if you cannot get a fill hose to attach onto the drain hose to go into a sink or bucket. Get a plastic piece as is used to extend a washing machine drain hose as use it as a link between the short drain hose and another hose - for example one from a scrap machine. Take the short hose with you (Simon is absolutely correct it will be much more supple once some hot water is run through it) so you don't waste your money buying something that does not fit.

Your machine is not THAT basic, the most basic would have no heater and no switch - just switched on and off at the wall socket

Al


Post# 456274 , Reply# 16   8/11/2010 at 17:39 (4,978 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Inner Lid

Is this mean't to be bent up at one end? Yes my Gran has a RCD unfortunately I'm not allowed to turn it on yet but there might be some luck tomorrow. I kept the longer pipe too even though it's in 4 pieces LOL! Would it be possible to melt the four pieces together again? I'll sort that out somehow but the main priority is painting it and if it works. I wouldn't say I'd have much luck in finding a matching Spinarinse whatever model that would be. If I lived in England I'd have better luck. I already have enough bother with my parents with one machine and it's nowhere near them so another machine is not a welcome thing. Maybe I could buy one from a fellow Hoover fanatic who is short of space when I'm a little older.

James.


Post# 456507 , Reply# 17   8/12/2010 at 14:48 (4,977 days old) by HooverJames ()        
IT WORKS!!!

Well I had done a little painting today, the body has a coat on and needs another, the lid has been repainted silver and turned out lovely. I took off the back panel and no wires were rusted and motor was slightly seized but freed easily. The tire on the pump pulley was cracked and broken but I will glue it together and it will be fine. The big switch on occured tonight too and the motor was great and the pulsator worked but with a few squeals here and there, nothing a little WD-40 can't solve. I'm hoping to put on my first wash tomorrow night. I think I've found a replacement fill/drain hose, is this it?

CLICK HERE TO GO TO HooverJames's LINK on eBay


Post# 456520 , Reply# 18   8/12/2010 at 15:49 (4,977 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
automatic washer ?

Does your washer tell you that it is an automatic washer?

Post# 456521 , Reply# 19   8/12/2010 at 15:54 (4,977 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hoover Brochure....
That looks familar...LOL..I think it maybe the one i posted to Twin Tub Emporium years ago.
Keith


Post# 456522 , Reply# 20   8/12/2010 at 15:55 (4,977 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Fill hose

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James,

Sorry to say, not quite and actually its not a Hotpoint at all - well not Supermatic anyway. The straight end should have a ribbed connector moulded into it so that it can be firmly inserted into the short hose on the back of the machine. You could always adopt the solution I mentioned above, but surely you could get a hose locally at much lower cost - there must surely be a Hoover dealer reasonably close to you, unless its VERY rural Ireland
Al


Post# 456525 , Reply# 21   8/12/2010 at 16:22 (4,977 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
welcome James

Hi James,

welcome to aw.org, and well done with saving this washing machine, you'll soon be enjoying the famous hoover boiling action. If your out and about finding repair shops it would be worth asking for any replacement pump tyres, I've had no success glueing them, but maybe a small flat vacuumm belt might be a tempory fix. Either way it would be well worth oiling both the pulsator and the pump bearing shafts, they both have a bleed hole in the bearing housing.

Well I didn't know that all the body shells didn't go over to the sharper design at the same time, I should have studied the manuals better lol, so proves you can always learn some thing.
I was probably engrossed in the intricassies of the keymatic clutch spring mechanism lol. I had always assummed that things all squared off around 67 when the 3312L and wide bodied keymatics came out.

Talking of colours though, when you start taking things apart and see the paintwork where the light hasn't got to, the colour is a brighter white than we may imagine.

All the best with your restoration, keep us posted of the progress, and four minutes should be quite enough for most loads lol.

Mathew


Post# 456527 , Reply# 22   8/12/2010 at 16:25 (4,977 days old) by HooverJames ()        
RE: Fill Hose

Yeah I realised that, I'm currently chatting to the person that "electron1100" recommended. I'm also contacting my local appliance retailer who stock ancient Hopoint parts so no reason why not to find a hose there. I will upload some pics of it's repainted condition when it's done tomorrow. I'm also considering moving it to my favourite aunts warm and large garage so I have options to expand LOL! The cabinets on those Spinarinses are squared compared to my 1321A were the models from before different? "bobofhollywood" it's semi-auto like a twin tub.

James.


Post# 456529 , Reply# 23   8/12/2010 at 16:28 (4,977 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Mathew

Thanks for the warm welcome.

James.


Post# 456532 , Reply# 24   8/12/2010 at 16:38 (4,977 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Oh James

A warm and large garage, do they realise they have already lost the garage for ever, the number of people here who've said I've got one or two and thats it, only to have ten plus a few months later lol, be warned.

When your chatting to these spares shops ask for any old brochures etc, or any other things that may interest you, these sorts of paces are closing down all around us these days, so go for it.

Mathew


Post# 456643 , Reply# 25   8/13/2010 at 01:48 (4,977 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Nice machine and i always love it when there is literature, with handwritten prices written on the brochure. Add a real sense of history. alr2903

Post# 456762 , Reply# 26   8/13/2010 at 14:48 (4,976 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Update!

I'm 75% done with my repaint. It turned out ok for an amatuer. I did a full body repaint instead of just touching up here and there. The lid turned out great too. I got a little paint on the badge and the seal though so any ideas on getting that off? Also I have a little electrical problem. The motor and heater works when the dial is on the heat position but the motor won't work on the motor position. I hope it's just a little loose wire. The paint worked wonders and since it's acrylic enamel, any drips just sand off. I'm for now run out of white but I can do the black skirt tomorrow. Then it should be good looking to most Hoover fan's (paint texture shouldn't matter) It looks good on the camera though.

James.


Post# 456803 , Reply# 27   8/13/2010 at 18:48 (4,976 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Switch

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James
As far as I know only the heater should work at "Heat" and the motor only at "Motor". It might be worth checking out the connections to see if it has been bodged at some time - it should be fairly simple to work them out.. Does the switch clearly move from position to position, locking firmly into place at each setting or is it a bit loose & wooly?
Al


Post# 456888 , Reply# 28   8/14/2010 at 06:57 (4,976 days old) by HooverJames ()        
RE: Switch

Yeah you're probably right. I'll get my uncle to check it out. All the wiring is intact I think it's just the contacts on the dial. It clearly moves and locks with a little click.

James.


Post# 457031 , Reply# 29   8/15/2010 at 06:44 (4,975 days old) by HooverJames ()        
95% Done!

Hi,

The paint is 95% finished and it's turning out well. Just a little more white touch ups to do and it's cosmetically done. However I got a little white on the badge which has survived well for 41 years with minor unoticable scratches. Will white spirit get the acrylic spray paint off it without damging it because I'm really proud of that badge. I rang my local appliance parts shop and they had the machine listed so there is a chance of getting parts there. They have a pile of NOS anyway behind the counter like a pile of ancient Hotpoint parts and some Hoover parts from what I remember. It will really look splendid when it's finished. If anybody has a rounded Spinarinse to match and they are willing to sell and ship over tell me LOL.

James.


Post# 457109 , Reply# 30   8/15/2010 at 15:56 (4,974 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Things have gone a little quiet...

But maybe this will liven things up! My Hoover Single is finally restored! The parts store will get back to me soon about the hose. I used Polymer Sealant to glue the pump tire back together to see if it would work. The first wash will be tomorrow depending on that tire. The switch has also been sorted, just a loose connection. I haven't any pics yet but I guarantee pics and a video tomorrow! The machine really looks splendid.

James.


Post# 457132 , Reply# 31   8/15/2010 at 17:31 (4,974 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hiya James.

Been avidly reading and cant wait to see pics of your restoration job.

If you have the time, patience and supplies then a full respray is always advatageous.

Never having been brave enough I have never done a full respray job.
I do use Humbrol enamel paint, but only as a touch up paint. As Gary has said, most 'appliance paint' is too white for vintage machines, that tend to go off white with age.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 457226 , Reply# 32   8/16/2010 at 05:09 (4,974 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Welcome James

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You have found a great classic Hoover washer for your first machine!!!, easy to use, and repair, parts still just about available, now all you need is the matching spinner... My Grans had this machine and they just rumble on doing a simple but very effective job of washing!!! Glad to see you are "Hands On" nothing like getting to grips with your own machines!!!

Heres a pic of the "Hoover Twosome" and guys after ranting on about "No bridging Units To be Found" whilst sorting & moving this weekend, opened up the Hoover wringer set and found a grey one!!!...yay!!!


Post# 457271 , Reply# 33   8/16/2010 at 12:41 (4,973 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
You found it Mike bridge unit

Hi Mike
since meeting you and kris he's often said that he thought you had one with a washer you had of him, and I always said you didn't so great that ones been found, at least it proves we've not lost our memories lol.

Can we get copies made lol.


Post# 457273 , Reply# 34   8/16/2010 at 12:54 (4,973 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Right

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Mathew thats correct,had forgotten that, have just checked my spreadsheet and I did get it from Chris, the first time we met him in Somerset!!!

Its the grey one, will photo it tomorrow! dont think its the one with wings like the later black ones!!

Took this pic of the 110v Hoover tub set for export, no switch just plug & go like the first one!!!


Post# 457522 , Reply# 35   8/17/2010 at 14:04 (4,972 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Sorry for the delay...

I haven't been at my machine for the past day. I will be tomorrow though because I got the pump tyre and I can now do my first wash! I got it from this large spares place in Derry called Quinnspares. They have tons of old discontinued parts and they say that they have lots of old twin tub spares as well as lots of Hotpoint 18 series parts! I haven't found a fill/drain hose yet but will the fill hose of a Hoover T5004 work? Does anybody here have any lying around? Mike nice machines, is that first one the same as mine only destined to be part of the Twosome offer because it lacks the badge?

Write back soon, James.


Post# 457774 , Reply# 36   8/18/2010 at 14:40 (4,971 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Sadly giving up...

The machine has 4 leaks and there are rust on the screws to access some awkward pipes. I'm sorry guys but I might just put her back in the shed where she came from and use my experience on a future machine which I hope comes by soon. I like Hotpoint more than Hoover so should I use my "HotpointJames" account instead of this one? Unless I can change my username somehow. Also I'm planning on tracking down the "Holy Grail" of Hotpoint, yep you got it... THE 1600 or 1830! Wish me luck though I doubt many were sold or even made it to Ireland.

Regards, a saddened James.


Post# 457781 , Reply# 37   8/18/2010 at 14:55 (4,971 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Hoover Single Tub Wringer... Export?

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Did they ever make these in the US?

Post# 457789 , Reply# 38   8/18/2010 at 15:25 (4,971 days old) by HooverJames ()        
US Single Tubs

I think a few were exported like Mike's set above.

James.


Post# 457922 , Reply# 39   8/19/2010 at 08:50 (4,970 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
single tub in USA

This is nearly identical and was sold in the USA. The brand name is Monitor and I THINK this one is from the 1950s.

Post# 457926 , Reply# 40   8/19/2010 at 09:03 (4,970 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
inside the tub

This is an aerator type washer which is completely manual although some were sold with electric drain pumps. Mine is gravity drain. I have found that this machine produces more lint than any washer I have ever experienced. I love it anyway and this one works perfectly. Cheers , cheerio , and pip pip.

Post# 458163 , Reply# 41   8/20/2010 at 15:29 (4,969 days old) by HooverJames ()        
I'M NOT GIVING UP YET!

Hi everybody,

I sat all day yesterday feeling sorry for myself and all the painting and cleaning I had done but mum read bits and pieces of the forum and this thread in particular and she suggested that I should never give up and that you guy's never give up if something is leaking so we came to the conclusion that I should strip the machine and replace the leaky pipework. So today taking into account from memory that the tub was leaking and the pump, and pipework. I took the motor and pump out, and tested the tub for leaks, the result was... NO LEAKS! I replaced the badly rotted pipe from the pump to the top with some yellow pipe I found that fitted and it is secure and has a cable tie around it. Hopefully that should cure the worst leak. I will apply some sealant to the pump tomorrow and patch the pin-hole leak in the sump to pump pipe. I have also found a replacement fill/drain hose at the spares shop and I will get it as soon as possible though possibly not until next weekend. Here is a picture of the machine when is was painted. I hope you will respect my amatuer painting skills LOL!

Please reply, James.


Post# 458168 , Reply# 42   8/20/2010 at 16:36 (4,969 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
don't give up

It took me more than one attempt to make my monitor perfect also. Wouldn't you agree that my machine looks just like your only yours has it's skirt pulled up over it's head ! Now the question is which one is related to which ! Nice looking machine young man. Congratulations on sticking with it. Cheerio and Pip Pip !

Post# 458171 , Reply# 43   8/20/2010 at 16:50 (4,969 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Bob

Hi,

Thanks, I think both our machines could be similar just by fate. Hoover launched their first Single in 1948 and the same design was used up until the last in 1975. Your machine is from 1950 something as you say. It could have been based on the Single even if the Monitor looks older. The tub in the Monitor looks modified a little compared to the Single. I couldn't tell you as I'm not as experienced as some here but in my opinion it's fate.

Thank's again, your machine is nice too, James.


Post# 458174 , Reply# 44   8/20/2010 at 17:35 (4,969 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
well done James

on a great paint job, I wish my single tubs looked that good, painting is a skill I hope to improve on a some stage in the future.

And don't let a few leaks put you off, we are all always to eager to fill them up and get washing, and I'm sure we've all tales of flooded kitchens etc, it happend to me only a few weeks ago when draining the wash tub on a twin tub, so it pays to check all the pipe work thoughroughly. So keep up the good work, if you get annoyed with it, just walk away and it won't seem as bad another time, also you may have thought of another solution to the problem.

Great to see the photos and look forward to hearing about the first wash once you've finished the last few repairs. It will be worth all the perseverence.

Mathew


Post# 458177 , Reply# 45   8/20/2010 at 18:02 (4,969 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover - Who Better..!!!

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Wow...James well done on a stunning restore and yes you where right to give it a second go...it looks great... and yes dont worry about using original pipes n stuff under the skirt...as long as it works thats all that matters, nowthen...when all finished you can have loads of Splashdrama with your first Hoover machine!!! Heres the first!!!

Bob, do we know when monitor first produced this single tub?? because there is a story that could link it to the first Hoovers!!!, certainly are very similar!!!

Cheers, Mike


Post# 458298 , Reply# 46   8/21/2010 at 15:36 (4,968 days old) by HooverJames ()        
First Wash Tomorrow!

Hi all,

I built the machine up again and all the piping is fitted and clamped. The small pin-hole crack on the sump pipe is sealed and the leaky pump too. All I have to do tomorrow is screw the clamp on the replaced pipe at the pump and level the motor on it's bolts. Of course I need to polish it too LOL! I'm going to put an ad in the local free-ads paper for a Spinarinse and a Hoovermatic soon too! Thanks for the thumbs up on my paint job. Nice 0307 Mike! More pics? In regards to me e-mailing Hotpoint about the 1600, I've had no reply but it should be 3 more working days.

James.


Post# 458403 , Reply# 47   8/22/2010 at 03:25 (4,968 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Well done James

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For your tenacity on this project, looks like you have done a very good job on this old machine. Good idea for posting the ad for Spinarinse or HM - there were plenty of those sold in Ireland - well in the north at least.

Don't hold your breath on a Hotpoint 1600 though, if one ever showed up there would be a dust storm as collectors went for it LOLOL. I actually had a chat with Paul about this very machine at the last wash-in at Mike's and apparently the quality of materials used in it was not great and it was a troublesome machine, and a fire at the Peterborough resulted in a lot of spares for it being destroyed. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE this machine and would give a lot for one. Still, I suppose some rare Keymatics have emerged over the last couple of years so it is not impossible.

I was always struck by the number of Hotpoint top loaders I saw when I visited southern Ireland so that might be worth looking out for. Oh, and I believe early Hotpoints were sold in Ireland under the "Gala" name so it might be worth checking those out too.
Al


Post# 458477 , Reply# 48   8/22/2010 at 15:11 (4,967 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Good day!

Got to see the machine today again and I levelled the motor on it's bolts and it seems to be quiet and movement free now apart from the odd rattle from the pulsator due to being empty probably. Good news is that and all of the inside leaks have vainished! :D Two more little things to do and it's one more classic machine preserved. I have to get that drain pipe and I have to seal a little hole where the outlet comes through the top because the original is missing or rotten. The beauty of appliances in Ireland is that broken machines aren't likely to be scrapped due to expense so they're left but they can be found in appalling condition. I know a lady down the road from my gran's who had a large shed full of Hotpoint's that had broke but that was when I was little so chances are they're gone now but I don't know whether I should investigate or not. Wash day has been moved to Tuesday! Would the 1600 be exported as the Gala 1600? I wouldn't call it a dust storm, WWIII would suit it more LOLOL!!! If Hotpoint do have a 1600 somewhere, would it be right for me to take it and have them ship it over here? I'd stand no chance if they put it on Ebay. It's their job to reply so I should get an e-mail soon.

James.


Post# 458506 , Reply# 49   8/22/2010 at 17:14 (4,967 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)        

Hi James

Great to read your story and well done on the restoration of the Hoover single-tub. You should be able to find the matching spinarinse too - as mentioned before, loads of those were sold in Ireland.

I'm from Ireland too - and my partner and me are actually moving back in January. As Al says, Hotpoints were sold as Gala in the 1950s and 1960s, changing to Hotpoint when GEC took the firm over in early seventies. I'm not sure if the 1600 ever made it to Ireland, but I guess it might have.

The Hotpoint top loader was very popular in Ireland, so you never know you might just find one! I'm hoping to find an early Gala or an american GE when I move back too. The Supermatic twintub was called Filtermatic in Ireland. You may also find some other unique Irish machines like the Novum twintub (based on the Rolls twintub), or the ESB Multiwash (a rebadged Servis Supertwin 70, sold through the ESB).

Best of luck with the first wash - make sure you have a circuit tripper plugged in for safety.

David


Post# 458924 , Reply# 50   8/24/2010 at 14:59 (4,965 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Washday!!!

Wow! I had an amazing day with my machine. All of the leaks including the one at the top are fixed now and I had a lovely washday. I have taken a mini movie of it's wash and I will get round to editing that for YouTube tomorrow. The same applies to the pics. I really enjoyed the splashes and it worked very hard.

Sit tight, James.


Post# 458927 , Reply# 51   8/24/2010 at 15:15 (4,965 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi James.

Congrats on getting the old girl up and running. Am sitting tight!

The paint job looks fine. Its a skill I will have to master one day.
Mine and Mathews Hoover 3236H was a visual wreck when I went and acquired it, so bad that we expected to have to strip it down and respray.
Miraculously though, apsrt from the lid and door that were too far gone, it was all grime and miniscule rust spots on the bodyshell that erased themselves with some elbow grease.

Under the lid needed work with paint though.

At the moment though spray painting frightens me. Small tin of Humbrol white enamel paint and a brush is all i feel confident with at the moment.

Good on you for persevering with the repair. Your first machine (and may it be the first of many) may have seemed like a baptism of fire, but I am sure that the results will be thoroughly satisfying.

Cheers
paul
p.s piccy below = pre an attack of humbrol





Post# 458928 , Reply# 52   8/24/2010 at 15:17 (4,965 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

post an attack of humbrol...

Post# 458930 , Reply# 53   8/24/2010 at 15:22 (4,965 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Tidied up paint, new door, new lid, new dial cap and dial ring and powder drawer facia.

Restoration is very rewarding.
Hard work, but rewarding.

Can wait for your piccies and vids of your 1321A! Roll out the unveiling.

Regards
Paul



Post# 458932 , Reply# 54   8/24/2010 at 15:23 (4,965 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Over to you James!

Paul


Post# 458933 , Reply# 55   8/24/2010 at 15:26 (4,965 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
'Can wait for your piccies and vids of your 1321A! Roll

'Can wait' should of course read 'Can't wait'!

Curse my poor typing. lol.

Paul


Post# 459183 , Reply# 56   8/25/2010 at 17:18 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Piccy's

Hi Paul,

First of all, very nice machine there! Went through a second wash today and it was great, the hassle of not owning a Spinarinse is annoying though. It scares you sometimes with those big splashes and I always put the lid on which helps a little LOL. Thakfully no more wet patches under the machine and the only drip I see is when a big splash occurs and a little drip finds it's way through the seal at the top around the pump outlet and lands on top of the pump, but this doesn't occur often so should I worry? The motor sometimes struggles slightly when loaded but I assume this is normal? I should really be complaining because this is a wonderful machine. Now for the piccy's, the video is still being edited.

Enjoy, James!


Post# 459185 , Reply# 57   8/25/2010 at 17:22 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
First Washday!!!

First Washday!!!

Post# 459186 , Reply# 58   8/25/2010 at 17:24 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
First Washday!!!

First Washday!!!

Post# 459187 , Reply# 59   8/25/2010 at 17:26 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
First Washday!!!

First Washday!!!

Post# 459189 , Reply# 60   8/25/2010 at 17:28 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
First Washday!!!

First Washday!!!

Post# 459190 , Reply# 61   8/25/2010 at 17:30 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
First Washday!!!

First Washday!!!

Post# 459191 , Reply# 62   8/25/2010 at 17:32 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
First Washday!!!

First Washday!!!

Post# 459193 , Reply# 63   8/25/2010 at 17:35 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
First Washday!!!

First Washday!!!

Post# 459195 , Reply# 64   8/25/2010 at 17:39 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Promotional Pic

I kind of added a Hotpoint touch to this pic LOL!

Post# 459197 , Reply# 65   8/25/2010 at 17:41 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
The owner messing LOL!

The owner messing LOL!

Post# 459198 , Reply# 66   8/25/2010 at 17:42 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
The owner and his machine

The owner and his machine

Post# 459311 , Reply# 67   8/26/2010 at 07:24 (4,964 days old) by HooverJames ()        
BUMP!!!

BUMP!!!

Post# 459315 , Reply# 68   8/26/2010 at 07:49 (4,964 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Brilliant James

You've done an excellent job, and love the photo of you being swallowed up by the rapid boiling action, there is a photo somewhere of my head poking out through a frontloader porthole lol, but that could be another thread one day.

Look forward to seeing the video, enjoy your washes and hope you find a spinarinse very soon, you'll be in for twice the fun then.

Mathew


Post# 461614 , Reply# 69   9/6/2010 at 11:25 (4,952 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Hiya James

Here are the other pagfes of the 1321A instruction manual.

Inside cover - left...


Post# 461615 , Reply# 70   9/6/2010 at 11:26 (4,952 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Inside cover - right ...

Post# 461616 , Reply# 71   9/6/2010 at 11:27 (4,952 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Only a small and simple manual.

2 inside pages, followed by the back cover with some important safety tips!

Congrats on the machine.

Cheers
Paul



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