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Hotpoint Supermatic 1420
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Post# 465657   9/26/2010 at 05:15 (4,933 days old) by HooverJames ()        

Hi all,

Is this a rare machine? I've only seen one picture of it with its round door handles. Was there a De Luxe version of this too? I want a Twinny soon. Either this or a 1450 with those lovely blue doors.

James.

P.S. Does anybody have any spare vintage detergant boxes?





Post# 465672 , Reply# 1   9/26/2010 at 08:12 (4,932 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
The 1420...

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Hi James

Yes this is probably the rarest Supermatic- im actually not sure if any collectors own one.

This model used an odd motor set up on the spin side I believe which was prone to failure and expensive/difficult to replace.

Other UK guys will know more though......

Seamus


Post# 465697 , Reply# 2   9/26/2010 at 11:12 (4,932 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi James, the 1420 must be the most rarest of the "Supermatic" family..it was only produced for a few years, and was the most complicated - the spinner had a weird set up of "powder clutch", and was prone to going wrong all the time.

Have you managed to get hold of one..?
Keith


Post# 465720 , Reply# 3   9/26/2010 at 13:52 (4,932 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Hotpoint 1420...

Hi Keith,

Wouldn't a 1400 or 1410 be even more rare than this? What is a "Powder Clutch"? I wish I found one... but like the Keymatic's... Liberator's, 1600's and this, will surface hopefully.

James.


Post# 465723 , Reply# 4   9/26/2010 at 14:07 (4,932 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi James,
The 1400's are out there, they are slightly easier to find, as the 1400 was a new machine to be launched in 1960 many people liked the special features, ie the filter clean & high speed spin drying, hence they were bought in higher number, plus it was manufacted for longer probably 5 years.

The 1420 was only made for a about 2 years. Not over sure how the powder clutch worked but it even sounds iffy to me !!
Keith


Post# 465732 , Reply# 5   9/26/2010 at 15:10 (4,932 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi James.

Yep the 1420 is VERY rare and, as far as I know, none are in a preserved state.

Hotpoint was still experimenting with the construction of their supermatics and made a bit of a boob when they introduced the 1420.

Words from two people who repaired these machines when they were still in daily use, was that the tubs in the 1420 were made from very thin galvanised steel!
Consequentially they used to rust through very quickly, which probably did in for most of the 1420s.

Tub construction went as follows:

1400 - outer spin container in fibre glass.
All 1420s and early 1450s had an outer spin container in thin galvanised steel.
Later 1450s onwards had a plastic outer spin container.


Retrofit packs of plastic outer spin containers were produced for the 1420 and early 1450s but, with a relatively small run of 1420s, the above would explain their rarity.

Never say never though - one might resurface one day.

Paul
p.s thanks to Jim from ukwhitegoods and Nigel for the info on the 1420.


Post# 465738 , Reply# 6   9/26/2010 at 15:24 (4,932 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Ireland

Would there be a possiblity of finding this, 1400, 1410, 1450 in Ireland under either the Hotpoint or Gala brand?
Also were most Servis machines sold here too eg. Quartz etc.?
Finally early Hoover Keymatics, Hoovermatics and early Single Tubs?
Just want to know what to keep an eye out for.
Nice to know that 1600's were sold here too LOL.
I've contacted everywhere I should now and the machines should be coming in soon. Now that I own half of a wooden shed up at grans. I plumbed it myself and there is an extension lead to it too with 4 sockets. I fixed the last ever leak in my Twosome Tub 1321A, it was hard to find but finally it's leak free and ready for another 40 years LOL

James.

James.


Post# 465751 , Reply# 7   9/26/2010 at 16:51 (4,932 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)        

Hi James

Hotpoints were sold as Galas until the very early 1970s, so up to 1450 were under the Gala brand. The Supermatic was called the Gala Filtermatic - not all Hotpoints were sold in in Ireland however - for example the pumped spin-dryer wasn't sold there, but the gravity model was. I'm not sure if the 1600 ever made it across the pond (it wasn't produced for very long), but the early 1800 Liberator Front Loaders were sold there too.

Galas and Hotpoints were (and are still) very popular in Ireland, so you might just get lucky with an older one - the wringers (Empress and Countess), 1500 series automatic and twintubs could still be out there - if you find a 1502 Automatic let me know - thats one I really want! Servis and Hoover were very widely sold too, so again most models - certainly the Supertwin and front-loaders, and pretty much every hoover - including the Keymatic. Some unique brands also existed, including Novum (twintubs based on the Rolls design) and ESB-branded models might also surface.

You also asked about hose for your single-tub. The fill/drain hose for the hoover single tub is not made, but you can get other hoover hoses that could adapted - see the link. You can still get the back-hose for the single tubs. Hoover and Hotpoint front-loader fans will note that the black drain hose is still available too!

D


CLICK HERE TO GO TO liberator1509's LINK


Post# 465753 , Reply# 8   9/26/2010 at 17:09 (4,932 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Hoses

I think I'll get the grey ribbed fill hose in that link that was for early Hoovermatics and glue the little connector on to it with some strong glue, then it would be a replica of the original? 1600/1830's were sold here on both sides of the border for at least 3 years. Another member seen them on holiday here back then. One will surface somewhere. Possibly here since the Irish tend to live under the "waste not, want not" policy.

James.



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