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Thread Number: 30846
My 1st Wringer - Maytag N2L |
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| Post# 465793 9/26/2010 at 19:36 (4,954 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
I thought I should make a post on this machine in some sort of entirety. I recently acquired this rustic beuty from Floyds Knobs, IN. A friend and myself went up in the Caravan and nabbed this little jewel for about $50 + gas. Got her home and checked her out and she's in decent shape for her age (to which I'm not entirely sure of yet). It needs a belt and a hose, and maybe even I can locate a pump kit and make it an N2LP. For now, I need a belt before I can continue using it, but it doesn't leak a drop and it very smooth.
This machine is a tad sentimental to me, my great-grandmother had this same model machine and I have very fond memories of Sunday wash day with bleach wafting though the house and this old trooper going for hours. Her machine was a P model and had a little slider along the rim of the right side of the machine. The serial number is 82747NJ if anyone has any date info. Thanks! -Tim 
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| Post# 465794 , Reply# 1 9/26/2010 at 19:39 (4,954 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Wringer Rollers | ||
| Post# 465796 , Reply# 2 9/26/2010 at 19:42 (4,954 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Agitator | ||
| Post# 465798 , Reply# 3 9/26/2010 at 19:44 (4,954 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Checking Everything Out | ||
| Post# 465800 , Reply# 4 9/26/2010 at 19:47 (4,954 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Water Testing the Machine and Rinse Tub | ||
| Post# 465808 , Reply# 6 9/26/2010 at 20:28 (4,954 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
Congrats! Thanks for the pics and vids. Did the washtub come with the machine? It's a really nice addition to the wringer. It's always an added plus when owners follow directions and keep the rollers released. You sure got lucky with the removal of the agitator. They usually put up one hell of a fight and come out in pieces if they haven't been removed in decades.
I'm sure Geoff will soon post some tips on adjustments an such to help quiet the machine down to the near dead silent operation that these units usually operate at. I'm not exactly sure how to decode wringers, but it looks like your wringer was made in May, 1960 or July, 1958. | ||
| Post# 465824 , Reply# 7 9/26/2010 at 21:18 (4,954 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Thanks Dan for the Date!
I could tell by the spline that the agi had been in place for a while, but it did surprise me that it came off like it did. 2 or 3 quick, strong tugs straight upwards and it was off. I too thought the tub was a nice addition, there were 2 but the other one sold already. The 2nd one was a white porcelain one that matched the washer nicely, also square and on wheels. The rollers were the main worry for me, but when I saw the machine and the rollers were popped up, it made me feel much more relieved. The machine has some scuffs, but compared to some of the $100-$300 junk that the idiot antique dealers try and sell around here, it was a steal.
Check out the link. I don't even know how you make a washer rust like that. There is a lot of crap like this around here. That and the Habitat ReStores which are murder on pricing. I'll keep my $150 for your 1977 KM dryer with the broken door latch and contact paper top thank you! -Tim CLICK HERE TO GO TO macboy91si's LINK on Louisville Craigslist | ||
Post# 466286 , Reply# 9 9/29/2010 at 03:59 (4,952 days old) by chestermikeuk  (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Maytag
Congratulations Tim on finding a childhood memory!! good solid machines, and as you say very quiet!! One even found its way over here that was brought by an Airforce family to a US airbase, the gransdon had kept it until a couple of years ago!!
Did Maytag produce round and square tubs at the same time?? is one a larger capacity?? Cheers, Mike, | ||
| Post# 466296 , Reply# 10 9/29/2010 at 08:31 (4,951 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Maytag Wringers
Hey Mike, good to hear from you! Apparently they made 3 Models of the Maytag Wringers in this time period, at the same time with 2 being square and 1 being round. Some of the Maytag folks can correct me here, but from what I gather it works something like this:
Maytag E2L Aluminum square tub, This I gather was the smallest capacity, low-end model. From what I've heard the aluminum can require some upkeep, but I find them striking machines in appearance. Maytag N2L (the model that I have) Round porcelain washtub which I'm thinking was considered an upgrade. Larger capacity than the E2L and considered the middle of the line model. The round tub seems more natural to me with these machines in terms of shape. Maytag J2L (pictured above) Square porcelain washtub. This machine seems to hold more than the N2L round tub wringer, I'm assuming that this would have been the top of the line in the wringer washers as it has the largest capacity. I could be dead wrong but that's what I've figured out from the research that I've done. These machines also at one time had names like the "Commander" and the "Master" but I believe that may have been before my machine was made. SLIGHTLY off topic... You know Mike, you guys over there have Hoover wringers, a Hoover AND a wringer, how cool is that. My research here indicates that in fact that DID sell the single-tub, hand wringers here for a few years in the 1st generation 1948 thru 1958ish but they are very rare. I doubt I will find one anytime soon. I would even love to get my hands on even a shell of one from your side of the pond and fit it with some 110v pieces from my collection of Hoover stuff here. So many cool Hoover things over there that we never had here. Spin-a-rinse machines are super cool too. -Tim | ||
| Post# 466324 , Reply# 11 9/29/2010 at 13:28 (4,951 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
Hello Tim congratulations on your Maytag wringer...
well i learned somthing from you today and thanks for the info ...yes the E2L's does require maintenance i don't use it often just in the summer time for whites. I had a round tube once the one you have, and gave it away like an idit but at the time i did not have support and i gave it to someone who really needed it but i'm sorry i did i'm sure you heard this story before with other members. Anyway have a good time with your wringer there is nothing like a gyrator agitator it can move water...!! It is amazing that a skinny shaft with four curved vanes can make so much water move in a maytag fashion. Have a good one. Darren k. 
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| Post# 466346 , Reply# 12 9/29/2010 at 14:26 (4,951 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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Hi Tim ... congrats on the N2L! Actually, the N2L was the smallest wringer Maytag made ... it held 16 gallons of water and was considered "economic". The J and E held 18. The little "slider" you remember was the "P" portion ... or PUMP control. Here's my 1964 Maytag N2LP ... 
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| Post# 466347 , Reply# 13 9/29/2010 at 14:34 (4,951 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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The Model J (or Commander) was the mid-priced Maytag. It featured a porcelain on steel tub and held 18 gallons of water. A very nice washer, indeed. Here's my 1965 Model J ... 
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| Post# 466353 , Reply# 14 9/29/2010 at 14:39 (4,951 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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And, of course, the "Queen Mother" of the Maytag wringers, the Model E2L ... the Master. This was the "top of the line" of Maytag wringers. It had a big aluminum tub that kept water hotter longer but had the same basic parts as the other two. Here's are two of my E's ... 
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| Post# 466365 , Reply# 16 9/29/2010 at 15:01 (4,951 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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I learn something new everyday!
Thanks for clearing this up. I was thinking that the porcelain would have made the machine more upscale. I know the J was bigger than the N but that aluminum tub in the E is quite deceptive. As always I love your posts Geoffdelp, you have such beautiful machines. I also never thought about the aluminum holding heat better but it makes perfect sense. I wonder if it would have been possible to make the aluminum less maintenance prone somehow.
Did the N have a name like the others? -Tim | ||
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Post# 466370 , Reply# 17 9/29/2010 at 15:12 (4,951 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Geoff, there was an even more basic model of the N, with dark blue enamel on the exterior. We did not display this, nor do I know if it was even available during this time. Please tell us what you know about it. | ||
| Post# 466412 , Reply# 24 9/29/2010 at 19:41 (4,951 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
Geoff, I always love the pictures of the Harem. You keep teasing with posting pictures of the red machines (I THINK that's what you said...) One of these days, you'll have to put them ALL in a room and take a picture so we can see all the Harem together... ;)
I still would like to find a clear tubbed demonstrator like Robert has. THAT would be a find to be proud of... RCD | ||
| Post# 466413 , Reply# 25 9/29/2010 at 19:59 (4,951 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Just Curious... | ||
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Post# 466414 , Reply# 26 9/29/2010 at 20:00 (4,951 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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GEOFF! | ||
| Post# 466421 , Reply# 27 9/29/2010 at 20:16 (4,951 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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How do you get the rollers to release, like in the picture above? | ||
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Post# 466442 , Reply# 28 9/29/2010 at 21:41 (4,951 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT) |
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Questions?
What model had the aluminum agitator?
That was the machine my Mom used up until 1967, when she got the Frigidaire Rapidry 1000. How did you drain the water without a pump? This post was last edited 09/29/2010 at 22:00 | ||
| Post# 466447 , Reply# 29 9/29/2010 at 21:52 (4,951 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Rollers and Drains
I don't know how to make them spring up like that myself, I hit the release bar and the tension is off the rollers though.
Without a pump the machines are gravity drain, you lower the hose to a point below the tub and drain it into a bucket or concrete floor or yard or whatever is near. It's not really the most fun part of the experience that's for sure. Nice looking red E2L by the way. Do the E's have an aluminum agitator or the standard plastic or bakelite gyrator like the others? -Tim | ||
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Post# 466455 , Reply# 30 9/29/2010 at 22:23 (4,951 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 466543 , Reply# 32 9/30/2010 at 13:25 (4,950 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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Look at her poor tub ... nasty. 
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| Post# 466544 , Reply# 33 9/30/2010 at 13:29 (4,950 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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As the tub was starting to get "de-stained" ... you have to work quickly; it cools off fast. It's best to clean these tubs after hot, hot water has been in them. Do a small area at a time. 
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Post# 466548 , Reply# 34 9/30/2010 at 13:41 (4,950 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT) |
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Master | ||
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Post# 466557 , Reply# 35 9/30/2010 at 14:30 (4,950 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 466558 , Reply# 36 9/30/2010 at 14:31 (4,950 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 466571 , Reply# 37 9/30/2010 at 16:14 (4,950 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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Nice, Greg ... sounds good. But ... you gotta fill that baby up with water to get the full gyratator action ... and then do 2 or 3 loads in the same water. :-) What WOULD our grandmothers say?? Heaven's sakes!! | ||
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Post# 466574 , Reply# 38 9/30/2010 at 16:42 (4,950 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Sorry to mention Speed Queen
I have a Speed Queen wringer washer, aluminum agitator, a dull rougher aluminum than your shiny perfect Maytag tub interior, but any ideas on how to clean the somewhat pitted, stained agitator? Anyone have experience with rough, industrial aluminum instead of the super-shiny tub? I can live with it as is, would prefer to clean it, but am afraid of wrong process making it worse. Any advice is appreciated--
Mark 
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| Post# 466577 , Reply# 39 9/30/2010 at 17:08 (4,950 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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Hi Mark ... that looks "pitted" from hard water. Have you tried using a Brillo or SOS pad? Does it do anything? I, too, would be afraid to try "Lime Away" or "CLR". Anybody else have luck with those products on this type of aluminum? It looks like it is cast aluminum and probably is tougher than we think! | ||
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Post# 466693 , Reply# 41 10/1/2010 at 11:13 (4,949 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Brillo
Hey Geoffdelp------thanks for suggestions, I used a Brillo pad on the agitator and it did get rid of the white-ish pitting, but the overall darker base versus the still sort-of light upper shaft is still the exact same stained, worn, chemically-reacted ugliness. Oh well, it's a step in the right direction, and I rinse out the entire machine after a days wash. Hopefully pitting won't return, we'll see through the years--
Thanks-- Mark | ||
| Post# 466773 , Reply# 42 10/1/2010 at 19:17 (4,949 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
LOOK AT THIS, for fun and illumination about size.
The J2L, Commander (left) looks bigger than the E2L, Master (right) because it's a few inches taller, it's wide open, and it's white, all of which tricks your perception into thinking bigger. I thought so too, Tim. The crown (aluminum frame), the lid, and the darker interior all give the illusion of small. Even when they're side by side, the perceptual error continues. Love how they called it the crown, uppity but playful.
By the way, these pumps when chugging on empty sound exactly like Ben's new red beauty. Wish I could share an audio. 
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| Post# 466775 , Reply# 43 10/1/2010 at 19:21 (4,949 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Even with a whole corner missing | ||
| Post# 466777 , Reply# 44 10/1/2010 at 19:30 (4,949 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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I found the one that looks as if the deck is rigged | ||
| Post# 466778 , Reply# 45 10/1/2010 at 19:35 (4,949 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Wave goodbye, pre-gyration water waves ! | ||
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Post# 466791 , Reply# 46 10/1/2010 at 21:43 (4,949 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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UniMac | ||
| Post# 466881 , Reply# 47 10/2/2010 at 11:15 (4,948 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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I remember.
It was either you or Designgeek who posted pics. It had big square stainless steel tubs with Surgilators in them. And in the middle was another slightly smaller tub, the spinner, modeled after the Easy with a cone in the middle for industrial strength spin-spray rinsing. Always wondered about patent issues and who made it.
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Post# 467176 , Reply# 48 10/3/2010 at 21:58 (4,947 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 467252 , Reply# 49 10/4/2010 at 11:18 (4,946 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Ben
Never knew that till I heard the AMP pump in your video. They are powered so differently, thought they were quite different. But as I listened, I said "Holy Cow, Batman, it's the same pump." Think that the Maytag pump is the largest, fastest pump ever seen on a wringer washer. But I have no data. Does anyone know?
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| Post# 468559 , Reply# 50 10/11/2010 at 17:01 (4,939 days old) by MRBeatty () | ||
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cool i have the same thing only with a pump its a N2LP | ||
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