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Thread Number: 30866
Need some repair help with Kenmore 110.72450110 washing machine |
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Post# 466163 , Reply# 1 9/28/2010 at 11:41 (4,956 days old) by KenmoreGuy64  (Charlotte, NC) |
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Hey there Runabout.
I am about to head to lunch here at work but I'll try to offer you some pointers when I get back. Cool machine - that is a rare 1974 Kenmore 500 series. Short and sweet though, tilt the whole cabinet forward and lay the machine on it's front if you can. The area to focus is that white-ish looking cylinder that looks like a plastic cup. The blockage is probably in that vacinity or in the plumbing heading to the pump. If that is not it, your lint filter may be clogging. If your machine has a cone-shaped filter in the right front corner (looking from the back of the machine) they were prone to clog and a replacement was devised years ago. More when I get back. Gordon | ||
| Post# 466168 , Reply# 2 9/28/2010 at 11:56 (4,956 days old) by runabout () | ||
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thanks KenmoreGuy. I am off to laundromat to rewash and dry the contents and should be back in a few hours and will check your advise. Really appreciate it! | ||
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Post# 466207 , Reply# 3 9/28/2010 at 16:04 (4,955 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Runabout -
Now that I can think a little bit more clearly, here's what I can tell you: First, the cabinet won't come off this machine. The cabinet is it's support, you can get everything else off before the cabinet. If you remove the tub ring as you were thinking, you might be able to shine a flashlight in between the inner basket and the outer tub and see if anything is 'hanging around' in there. The gaps are narrow enough in this type of washer that socks etc have caused a non-spin condition from blockage, so it is possible that something got into the hoses and is blocking them. To get the tub ring off, remove the tub ring clips (looks like you may have already) AND the snubber in the back right corner. You'll need either a 3/8 socket or a 1/2, I forget which. Disconnect the fill hose from the flume and tuck it under the left rear corner gusset. Carefully lift the ring up. It may pull the tub ring gasket with it. You may find the gasket has some rust particles in it. As long as they aren't colossal chunks, the gasket can be re-used if you clean it well. There is a tub drain at the 7 o'clock position, and the filter feed hose (called a side check valve) at about 9 o'clock. Concentrate your looking there. This perspective is from the front of the machine. If that doesn't reveal anything, do what I was saying before and look underneath at the plastic drain trap. You may want to disconnect the pump hoses or take it off all-together if you can, and look at the filter. My money is on the filter if you don't see anything obvious in the tub or trap. If you suspect the filter, take it off the machine and hose it out with a pressure nozzle - it may yield some surprises. I have done a lot of work on machines like yours, and this situation for me would be a search and rescue (or destroy) mission because these are not always the same problem over and over. You may even have a bad pump, though I don't know why tipping it forward would have done any good before. So, I wish I could be more affirmative with a sure answer, but this should give you some avenues to check into. Good luck! Gordon | ||
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Post# 466208 , Reply# 4 9/28/2010 at 16:08 (4,955 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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One other thing...I should stop here with my advice, but it looks like the machine was last run on the Perm Press cycle? Do you use that much?
If you do, you may want to experiment with the Normal cycle for anything other than delicates. See if you notice any differences. Perm Press uses considerably more water and spins out less of it, making dry time longer. You can save in both departments if you use the Normal cycle. My 1986 Kenmore has never run the Perm Press even once. Gordon | ||
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Post# 466222 , Reply# 6 9/28/2010 at 17:42 (4,955 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 466258 , Reply# 7 9/28/2010 at 22:54 (4,955 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Wigwag. | ||
| Post# 466976 , Reply# 10 10/2/2010 at 22:06 (4,951 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
A proper investment would be...
A repair manual for the older belt driven Whirlpool/Kenmore washers. They can be found anywhere and will give you enough insight (and courage) to do future repairs yourself. That is a nice washer and the sense of happiness achieved by taking care of her yourself is worth it. Once you get your bearings on how it's put together, you'll find it a very easy machine to work on for the most part!
RCD | ||
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Post# 466988 , Reply# 11 10/2/2010 at 23:25 (4,951 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Where in OH are you? | ||
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Post# 467032 , Reply# 12 10/3/2010 at 09:14 (4,951 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Question....out of curiosity......this model is supposed to have a self cleaning filter according to your post....but looking at the pic there is no hose in the left hand side coming up and out the back of the machine from the check valve as most SC filter set ups do.....just puzzled....
I have had too many of the cone shaped filters break at the molded seam at the bottom......if a replacement could not be found....I usually put in a "L" plastic fitting and clamped in place....machine ran fine and owners never seen a difference in lint from before until now.....but this is a quick bypass to rule out the filter... | ||
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Post# 467146 , Reply# 14 10/3/2010 at 20:16 (4,950 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 467169 , Reply# 15 10/3/2010 at 21:36 (4,950 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Yogi / Martin,
Somewhere in late 1974/early 1975 the tub-mounted self cleaning lint filter debuted. Runabout's washer has a tub-mount filter. If it was a 110.72450100 instead, it would have the clog and leak prone cone filter. This model was obviously still available and in production when the filter change was made, and the 110.72450110 had the tub-mount incorporated into it, hence the engineering change in the model number. You're very observant in noticing the lack of a drain hose to the top of the cabinet, but this is why, as the tub-mount does indeed drain at the lower end of the cabinet. Gordon | ||
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