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Post# 475561   11/16/2010 at 17:24 (4,881 days old) by 2dishwasher ()        

What ever was the point to the reversed racks on the Maytag dishwashers?




Post# 475610 , Reply# 1   11/16/2010 at 19:48 (4,881 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Good question! Another question is why didn't they put a wash arm under the top rack where the dirtiest dishes usually resided.

It had a long production run, was extremely reliable, fairly quiet when compared to other machines of the times, and did a pretty good job cleaning dishes as along the incoming water was 140F. I lived with a lower MOL unit for 21 years.


Post# 475617 , Reply# 2   11/16/2010 at 19:55 (4,881 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Dan I beg to differ with you regarding your comment. the full-size spray arm on the top of the machinne was the equivalent of a spray arm under a standard arrangement dishwasher. In an ideal world. the top rack was largely used for plates and cereal bowls and skillets or rectangular casseroles along the right & left side. all glasses, cups, and pots/pans went in the bottom rak. I BobLoaded several of these and never had any cleaning disappointments even when the top rack was loaded with pots, pans, mixing bowls, and such. A middle spray arm wouldn't have worked becuse of the spacing of the two racks vertically as well as the top rack being much lower than a usual top rack placement in the machine because of the height needed for tall plates.

Post# 475618 , Reply# 3   11/16/2010 at 19:58 (4,881 days old) by appnut (TX)        
And you ask what was the point?

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I think more than anything, Maytag did this design simply to be different, unique, and to differentiate themselves from every other dishwasher on the market. When they brought out their built-in models in, what 1968 or 1969?, dishwashers were becoming pretty common, not as common as today. Maytag was the very late "newcomer" to the market and I'm sure they wanted to differentiate and be unique to stand out amongs the rest. I loved them and as several on here can attet, loaded right, they held a ton.

Post# 475632 , Reply# 4   11/16/2010 at 20:21 (4,881 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Back in the 80's I had a Maytag wc302 dishwasher and granted it was basic but it did a hell of a job. Belt driven and cleaned well. Loading was very easy and this machine could hold alot. I agree with Bob that the top arm wash downward and washed the plates. If you look at the tine angles they make the plates soiled surface face up. The center nozzle did a great job washing the insides of pots and pans and got into bowls and pitchers. The bottom was for glasses and cups. This machine had so many areas to load stuff and I was always amazed at what it could hold...even with the rectangular cut out in the lower rack for the nozzle. I never prewashed with that dishwasher...I just had to make sure the water was piping hot from the tap since the water was not heated in this machine.

Post# 475658 , Reply# 5   11/16/2010 at 21:15 (4,881 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mike, aside from my own experience, I had you in mind with your prior experience and what we'd talked abou this machine years ago. Had never forgotten.

Post# 475670 , Reply# 6   11/16/2010 at 22:11 (4,881 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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top rack was largely used for plates and cereal bowls and skillets or rectangular casseroles along the right & left side. all glasses, cups, and pots/pans went in the bottom rack

The top rack in an RR Maytag had the same intended duty function as the lower rack in a standard layout dishwasher. Pots and pans were supposed to go on the top rack, along with plates ect. If you really wanted the pots and pans clean without a lot fo pre-rinsing, you'd put them on the lower rack. But due to layout constraints, that wasn't always possible, especially with the larger pots. Never had any luck with cereal bowls in the top rack unless they were pre-rinsed. I usually bobloaded the lower rack, so there wasn't much action occurring in the top rack from the lower wash arm.

I was happy with the machine it it did clean well given its awkward design. However, I like my KDS-19 much, much better :)


Post# 475747 , Reply# 7   11/17/2010 at 08:25 (4,881 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I had a reverse rack for 15 years and it cleaned everything that I put into it - pots, pans, casserole dishes, etc. And I loaded them on the top rack, the bottom rack was strictly for glasses, cups, small mixing bowls. I never ever pre-rinse and my dishes would sit for 2-3 days sometimes but everything always came out sparkling and in a much quicker time than my current newer model K/A does the job - 85 min. as opposed to 2-3 hours! The only thing was it was a lot noisier.

Gary


Post# 475768 , Reply# 8   11/17/2010 at 11:02 (4,880 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

I had one for years. I think the reason they reversed the racks, was to have both racks pretty deep. Pre tall tub era.
You could fit tall glasses in the bottom, tall plates too. Deep pots in both racks. The bottom spray arm would wash the inside of cups and glasses. The top spray arm would wash the plates and silverware, and at the same time rain down on the glasses and cups. It got it all covered. From every angle. I think that this dishwasher design was extremely well conceived, and made so much sense.
I wish they were still making it, with a stainless tub and nylon racks. I would buy it.


Post# 475802 , Reply# 9   11/17/2010 at 12:37 (4,880 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        
Maytag was the very late "newcomer" to the market

Bob, what brand was the last to come out with dishwashers was it Maytag?

Post# 475917 , Reply# 10   11/17/2010 at 19:12 (4,880 days old) by 2dishwasher ()        

Very interesting, they just did it pretty much to be different from other brands.

Post# 475936 , Reply# 11   11/17/2010 at 20:21 (4,880 days old) by appnut (TX)        
brand was the last to come out with dishwashers was it Mayta

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I don't remember any other brand name coming out with a dishwasher, a total new design from the ground up, and an item they'd never had in their product line before. I remember thinking at the time, Maytag was the last major brand name that didn't ever offer a dishwasher until the RR--and the top load came out first. Someone chime in and correct me if I'm wrong please.

Post# 475973 , Reply# 12   11/17/2010 at 22:08 (4,880 days old) by 2dishwasher ()        

Fisher and Paykel DishDrawer? Or do you mean of a product that the company never manufactured a dishwasher in its history?

Post# 475975 , Reply# 13   11/17/2010 at 22:19 (4,880 days old) by 2dishwasher ()        

When was this machine discontinued?

Post# 475995 , Reply# 14   11/18/2010 at 00:32 (4,880 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
When was this machine discontinued?

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1991

Post# 475998 , Reply# 15   11/18/2010 at 00:43 (4,880 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        
Or do you mean of a product that the company never manufactu

This is what I meant to to say.

Post# 476135 , Reply# 16   11/18/2010 at 15:56 (4,879 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

What other brand of dishwasher could be loaded like that?? None. I miss my Maytag. I love my Bosch, but I still miss my Maytag.

Post# 476137 , Reply# 17   11/18/2010 at 16:03 (4,879 days old) by 2dishwasher ()        
Then?

When did they come out with the next generation, right after they discontinued this one?

Post# 476162 , Reply# 18   11/18/2010 at 18:34 (4,879 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)        

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the Maytag Corp. in 1991 sought out to build a new dishwasher plant. Maytag dishwashers were built in Newton, IA in the same plant with the washers and dryers. When Maytag decided to switch from the porclin tub dishwasher to a plastic tub they moved the operation to Jackson, TN. The plant open in 1992. That's when they started building what they called the JetClean Dishwasher. I went to work for them in 1999. It was also that same year 1999, that they started building a stainless steel tub dishwasher under the Jenn Air name then eventualy come out with one in the Maytag name. In 2001 Maytag Corp. aquired Amana. In the year 2002 they changed the dishwasher plat form once again from the short tub to the new tall tubs we see today. They changed the plastic tub first but kept building short tubs in the off brand names like crosley, magic cheff, and some very low end maytags as well. they kept building the standard short tub stainless steel tub for another year. Then in 2003 they changed the stainless steel platform to tall tub. In the year 2006 Whirlpool steps in and buys the Maytag Corp. By thanksgiving of 2006 we start building the dish draw dishwasher under the Kenmore name. I must point out that the Maytag Corp. already had a contract with Sears to build this dishwasher in the Kenmore name before the sale of Maytag to Whirlpool was complete. Whirlpool in the next year send down their Kitchen Aid model of the dish draw for us to build in Jackson, TN. Whirlpool engineers were puzzled as to how to set up the assembly line for this machine however, maytag engineers already had a plan in motion before the sale was complete. Then in August 2009 Whrilpool decided to move all dishwasher production to their plant in Findlay, OH.



Post# 476304 , Reply# 19   11/19/2010 at 14:00 (4,878 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

Thanks cphifer5115 for all the info.

It tells the whole story, in a nutshell.





Post# 476309 , Reply# 20   11/19/2010 at 14:15 (4,878 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)        

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welcome guys.


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