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The new agitator toploader from Whirlpool arrived in my basment this morning! |
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Post# 483016 12/20/2010 at 20:51 (4,865 days old) by Pulsator  (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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HERE IT IS!!! The new Belt Drive Whirlpool topload washer! I don't think I'll ever learn! I really hate HE impeller washers! I think I've bought my last in the BD Cabrio this machine replaced! (I'm not getting rid of the Cabrio, but it's going in storage.)
Also, you wouldn't believe the price I got on this washer! (I'm actually not allowed to tell technically!) 
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Post# 483018 , Reply# 1 12/20/2010 at 20:55 (4,865 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Money shot!
After one load, this agitator was swiftly removed. DA agitators belong in KitchenAids and Lady Kenmores. No where else. I really don't like them with the exceptiong of the KA and LK machines. I have a new agitator on order (Whirlpool single-piece Surgilator that is softener dispenser usable.) but the Kenmore straight vane will have to do for now.
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Post# 483019 , Reply# 2 12/20/2010 at 20:57 (4,865 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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And of course, for your viewing pleasure... | ||
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Post# 483021 , Reply# 3 12/20/2010 at 21:12 (4,865 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Congratulations on christmas!!! I have to admit, I would have liked to have seen the wash action with the original agitator before you switched it out so that I could compare. sure the action is a lot more gentle on fabrics than the dreaded direct drive machines. Fairly nice turnover. What soil level did you start the cycle on? Kinda like that it switched from the quick sstroke to the longer stroke, I guess that was to help get the load down under water. Does it switch agitation patterns throughout the cycle? How was the spin? Is the hot water temp dumbed down? How about warm?
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| Post# 483026 , Reply# 4 12/20/2010 at 21:24 (4,865 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Post# 483027 , Reply# 5 12/20/2010 at 21:24 (4,865 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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I have a video of the original agitator, I'll upload that as soon as I get a chance! I selected Regular for the soil level on the Normal cycle. I like long strokes too! It does the short strokes at the beginning of the wash and at the very end to balance the load. Same with the rinses. It does a 400 RPM spin between the wash and rinse and the final spin reaches 700 RPM. The hot water is dumbed down to 120F which I love! I never need to wash anything in hotter water than that, not even my whites! The warm is dumbed down a bit, though I'm not a fair judge as my cold water is set to 85F. It does seem to do more warm than cold water when mixing, not sure if it's sensing my cold water temp or not. The warm feels very warm (approx 105F) when I set it to warm. Cool is around 90F and cold is 85F.
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Post# 483031 , Reply# 6 12/20/2010 at 21:46 (4,865 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Whirlpool! | ||
| Post# 483036 , Reply# 7 12/20/2010 at 21:55 (4,865 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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mechanism whats it like underneath?-or is there a cover in place... | ||
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Post# 483046 , Reply# 8 12/20/2010 at 22:36 (4,865 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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BTW is that the highest water level you can get in the machi | ||
| Post# 483047 , Reply# 9 12/20/2010 at 22:37 (4,865 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington) | ||
Belt drive?? | ||
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Post# 483048 , Reply# 10 12/20/2010 at 22:38 (4,865 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 483056 , Reply# 11 12/20/2010 at 23:04 (4,865 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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| Post# 483059 , Reply# 12 12/20/2010 at 23:34 (4,865 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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sounds like the mechanism is a lot like a GE hydrowave then, using an inverter driven motor.. | ||
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Post# 483060 , Reply# 13 12/20/2010 at 23:42 (4,865 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Post# 483061 , Reply# 14 12/20/2010 at 23:46 (4,865 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 483067 , Reply# 15 12/21/2010 at 00:16 (4,865 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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| Post# 483108 , Reply# 16 12/21/2010 at 03:30 (4,865 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Thank you for posting that, Jamie. However, I am having a hard time believing it's really a belt-driven machine. :) :) Where's the "D" shaped tub opening???? I hope you enjoy it. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
| Post# 483125 , Reply# 17 12/21/2010 at 06:20 (4,865 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Nice. | ||
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Post# 483184 , Reply# 18 12/21/2010 at 13:07 (4,864 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 483218 , Reply# 19 12/21/2010 at 16:59 (4,864 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 483227 , Reply# 20 12/21/2010 at 17:40 (4,864 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
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| Post# 483234 , Reply# 21 12/21/2010 at 18:22 (4,864 days old) by mtn1584 (USA) | ||
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I love it, best of luck to you and Merry Christmas! Mike | ||
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Post# 483247 , Reply# 22 12/21/2010 at 20:00 (4,864 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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Post# 483281 , Reply# 23 12/21/2010 at 21:54 (4,864 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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NEW WP BELT DRIVE WASHERS | ||
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Post# 483412 , Reply# 24 12/22/2010 at 09:45 (4,863 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Facsinating ! | ||
| Post# 483424 , Reply# 25 12/22/2010 at 10:50 (4,863 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Lid Switch. | ||
| Post# 483426 , Reply# 26 12/22/2010 at 10:53 (4,863 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Nevermind | ||
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Post# 483444 , Reply# 27 12/22/2010 at 12:22 (4,863 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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The machine does have a tub break but it only uses it to help hold the tub still during agitation, it's not used to stop the tub at the end of the spin cycle.
If someone wants to scold me about changing agitators, then they can risk facing my wrath. No one tells me what to do with my washers! Spray rinsing... There are 4 rinse option to choose from. The first is "Off" which means that it will do a regular spray rinse for the rinse cycle. The spray rinse on this machine is the tub turning around 20-30 RPM and the machine drenching the clothes with fresh water, then it takes off for a spin and I believe it repeats. The second option is "Extra Rinse" which does an extra spray rinse. The third is "Yes" referring to the question above it asking if fabric softener was added. This does a deep rinse like any other standard TL washer with no spray rinses. The fourth option is "Yes with Extra Rinse" which does a full deep rinse then a short spin then it stops and does a spray rinse like above and then continues through the final spin. The lid does lock and the lock contains a magnet. Just so happens that my belt drive Cabrio has the exact same lid lock and I had to remove that one from the lid so I could place it in the slot and make the machine run open. I use the Cabrio one so that I can decide to leave the machine to run unattended with the lid closed. Overall, I really like this washing machine and for those not willing to pay the price for a Speed Queen TL washer, I will be suggesting this machine as an alternative. It may not last as long, but I'm very pleased with the performance and the reliability is far better than anything else out there for this price!!! Go Whirlpool! I actually like one of their new washers! | ||
| Post# 483454 , Reply# 28 12/22/2010 at 12:51 (4,863 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Very interesting machine. Love the long strokes. Does it do a natural drain? The rinse sequences sound very effective and cool! What is retail on these? I have not seen them as of yet. I wonder if they will offer an electronic model. Electronic as in push buttons. Brent | ||
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Post# 483473 , Reply# 29 12/22/2010 at 13:44 (4,863 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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It does do a neutral drain. The suggested retail is $429. I usually see them at $399. I don't think that they will be making a push-button model for this machine. If you want push buttons, you need to go higher end, and those machines are all HE impeller washers. The step up from this machine is all dials, has more features, but is indeed an HE impeller washer. Here is that machine: CLICK HERE TO GO TO Pulsator's LINK | ||
| Post# 483481 , Reply# 30 12/22/2010 at 13:58 (4,863 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Jaime: if you can show me which agitator, maybe I have a spare->you could probably pick it up when you get these Kemores. | ||
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Post# 483535 , Reply# 31 12/22/2010 at 16:31 (4,863 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 483537 , Reply# 32 12/22/2010 at 16:34 (4,863 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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Post# 483577 , Reply# 33 12/22/2010 at 18:24 (4,863 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Or am I seeing this wrong? | ||
| Post# 483601 , Reply# 34 12/22/2010 at 19:47 (4,863 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Although you might want to think twice before you put an uber sized vane KitchenAid agitator in the washer...it may not be able to handle the extra drag and you have to remember that the motor is only 1/4 hp not a full half hp. I would betcha that the 5 vane Surgilator with the 10 vane lint filter top would do a fabulous job in that machine.
Looking forward to more vids! | ||
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Post# 483625 , Reply# 35 12/22/2010 at 20:49 (4,863 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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| Post# 483700 , Reply# 36 12/23/2010 at 06:31 (4,863 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Spray after Deep | ||
| Post# 483704 , Reply# 37 12/23/2010 at 07:16 (4,862 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 483713 , Reply# 38 12/23/2010 at 08:17 (4,862 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
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I put the same agiator that danmantn is talking about in the maytag direct drive i used to have and it did a good job but i would never over load. i was able to wash 8 full size bath towels at one time in it with out anything else in it and it had great rollover. and boy did it grab the lint. i saw a reduction in the amount of lint i would remove from the dryer.
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| Post# 483977 , Reply# 39 12/24/2010 at 08:12 (4,861 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC) | ||
ah...the sound | ||
| Post# 484231 , Reply# 43 12/25/2010 at 14:36 (4,860 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
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Post# 484415 , Reply# 44 12/26/2010 at 16:42 (4,859 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Here ya go Bob! | ||
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Post# 484443 , Reply# 45 12/26/2010 at 19:25 (4,859 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 484477 , Reply# 47 12/26/2010 at 22:47 (4,859 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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All of the other versions of this machine, with the autofill, are HE impeller machines. I have one of those too, labeled Whirlpool Cabrio though it's not a true Cabrio. The stores around me have had this machine for only a couple of months now. The fill does take longer as it restricts water flow for the spray rinses. To make the machine simpler, Whirlpool put on valves that restrict the flow of water constantly making the fill take a little longer, but not much. The machine does use use the tub break during any of the spin cycles to stop the tub either, it allows the tub to coast to a stop. The lid locks as soon as the machine is started and unlocks at the end of the cycle or when all parts have stopped moving if the machine is paused. (This can take a couple of minutes if the machine was spinning.) Other than that, the machine doesn't really take noticeably longer. Maybe 5-7 minutes longer overall. The machine takes less time than a normal washer if the single spray rinse is used.
Here's a video of the machine doing it's full 700 RPM spin with a proper Whirlpool agitator! | ||
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Post# 484480 , Reply# 48 12/26/2010 at 22:56 (4,859 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 484541 , Reply# 49 12/27/2010 at 10:46 (4,858 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
The sole survivor
In the march to top loader extinction, Whirlpool has beat the odds. Congratulations to the brains behind it.
This is a wonderful machine, Jaime, and I'm so happy to get a chance to see it. Loved how you immediately installed a proper agitator. Funny And Bob, I could have sworn I was listening to a unimatic too; for me the sounds are identical, minus the chugging. How cool is that: Whirlpool gives a memorial hug to her powerful sister who did not survive. So cool and evolved--the multiple agitation strokes in succession. Is this single spray a full spray rinse cycle like the older Resource models had? If you get a chance would you describe the rinsing sequences/options? Thank you. This post was last edited 12/27/2010 at 11:24 | ||
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Post# 484574 , Reply# 50 12/27/2010 at 14:00 (4,858 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York) |
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| Post# 484824 , Reply# 51 12/28/2010 at 16:57 (4,857 days old) by toploader1984 () | ||
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i had the portable version of the "world washer" years ago, very good machine i loved it, very fast spin, although someone described the noise of the motor as the sound of a zipper going up and down, i agree i sounds different. | ||
| Post# 484896 , Reply# 52 12/28/2010 at 22:28 (4,857 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Very nice videos! I love the sound of the motor when the spin takes off! Thanks for sharing. Brent | ||
| Post# 484937 , Reply# 53 12/29/2010 at 04:37 (4,857 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Jamie, thanks for taking and sharing the vids with us. Looks like a winner. Happy New Year. arthur | ||
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Post# 484987 , Reply# 54 12/29/2010 at 10:51 (4,856 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 485084 , Reply# 55 12/29/2010 at 20:31 (4,856 days old) by JaredH () | ||
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Does this replace all Direct drive models or only the BOL DD's? | ||
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Post# 485346 , Reply# 56 12/30/2010 at 21:39 (4,855 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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KitchenAid | ||
| Post# 485441 , Reply# 57 12/31/2010 at 08:16 (4,854 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
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| Post# 485582 , Reply# 58 12/31/2010 at 23:49 (4,854 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 485608 , Reply# 59 1/1/2011 at 07:17 (4,853 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Spin Spray Rinsing | ||
| Post# 489481 , Reply# 60 1/17/2011 at 02:40 (4,838 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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Post# 489924 , Reply# 62 1/18/2011 at 18:36 (4,836 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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5 water levels and wide lid... Fortunately, there is a version with the 5 water levels and the wide lid. It's the Kenmore badged version. EXACT same machine inside, slight different dual action agitator but still a nice machine! This machine does also have more cycles like the Heavy Duty cycle, the Soak cycle, and the Express cycle. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Pulsator's LINK | ||
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Post# 489973 , Reply# 64 1/18/2011 at 21:26 (4,836 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 490853 , Reply# 67 1/22/2011 at 19:33 (4,832 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Whirlpool is still using the F&P SmartDrive design for the higher-end Cabrio & Bravos models, at least for now. You can look up parts diagrams by model number at either Whirlpool.com under the Owner Center / Manuals & Literature or at SearsPartsDirect.com to see which machines use which mechanical design. | ||
| Post# 491905 , Reply# 69 1/27/2011 at 16:03 (4,827 days old) by wringersteve () | ||
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Pulsator, Congrats on your new Whirlpool! I've seen this in the stores and am curious about the second rinse with fabric softener selection. Pardon my ignorance, but will this machine actually add sofener to the second rinse automatically? | ||
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Post# 491938 , Reply# 70 1/27/2011 at 19:32 (4,827 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Second rinse with softener selection | ||
| Post# 491970 , Reply# 71 1/27/2011 at 21:58 (4,827 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
Porcelain Tub | ||
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Post# 498583 , Reply# 72 2/22/2011 at 17:05 (4,801 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA) |
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On sale for: $279.99. Sears Kenmore model 2110. Pretty nice price. I'm considering getting the pair and hoarding them for a few years until my Maytag (2001) set fails. CLICK HERE TO GO TO 48bencix's LINK 
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| Post# 501683 , Reply# 73 3/5/2011 at 21:24 (4,790 days old) by Supersurgilator (Indiana) | ||
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Are you sure about those temp readings? I was not expecting hot to be a true 120, I heard that it was more like 105. | ||
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Post# 502026 , Reply# 74 3/6/2011 at 21:15 (4,789 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Post# 505005 , Reply# 76 3/18/2011 at 11:45 (4,777 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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this is not the right thread but does any one know how well F&P smart load dryers work ? cuz i really like them only thing i would rather 7.0cuft of space.Very well, based on 6+ years of using my DEGX1. I've not found the "small" 6.5 cu. ft. size to be a problem. Love the 24-hr wrinkle guard function. | ||
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Post# 505180 , Reply# 77 3/19/2011 at 11:13 (4,776 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 505189 , Reply# 78 3/19/2011 at 12:45 (4,776 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago ) | ||
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F&P dryer hmmmn thats cool we dont get those brands in the Caribbean i think whirlpool should lease n use the top load dryer technology n make it 7.o or 7.2cuft but ill just import a F&P set if i like ill start selling them small scale | ||
| Post# 685383 , Reply# 79 6/24/2013 at 14:25 (3,948 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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