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Post# 483326   12/22/2010 at 02:42 (4,866 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        

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Here is that Bendix again.

I thought I was talking to the seller about getting it, we were emailing. The prior auction ended with no bids he's relisted it again for $300. For that $300 he expects the buyer to drive there, unbolt 70 year old bolts and haul it up out of his basement.

Here's my thinking: For 5 hours of my time and labor the machine is only worth $200 to me.
1) The drive is an hour & 30 minuntes from here each way.
2) The condition of the machine on platform is unknown as he won't plug it in for some reason.
3) It would cost him/her a $100 bucks to get piano movers to put that machine on ground level for "local pick up" which are his terms.
4) He never answered my questions on the basement egress.
That to me is a BIG NO, NO on ebay. Answer all questions!

5) I offered $200 and he said he would get back to me which he didn't.

SO the machine is back on ebay guys & gals for $300 again.

Good luck, it's not on my work list now!

Merry Merry
Jetcone


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Post# 483502 , Reply# 1   12/22/2010 at 14:43 (4,866 days old) by 3beltwesty ()        
Your approach sounds reasonable

Your approach sounds like how I think too. One has the cost/toil/bull to remove the beast out of the basement and cost to get in in a truck and to your place. Not being able to plug it in would bug me too; it adds much risk. To get it up a set of basement stairs would need probably 2 folks?. 70 year old bolts might be stuck too and have to be cut off. One might have an install where the installer hit the top threads as a locking method. Maybe after some dead no bid auctions his price will drop.

Post# 483606 , Reply# 2   12/22/2010 at 20:06 (4,865 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Thats what I'm thinking

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alittle dose of reality is always a good thing.


Post# 483610 , Reply# 3   12/22/2010 at 20:17 (4,865 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
What we need is

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Carol Kane as the ghost of Chirstmas Past in Scrooged!

Post# 483660 , Reply# 4   12/23/2010 at 00:01 (4,865 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Dodgy Sellers

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If sellers are reticent that always starts alarm bells ringing with me......and as you would have to work up one hell of a sweat (no bad thing :@) in some ways) to shift it.

I would erase it from my mind.........


Post# 484213 , Reply# 5   12/25/2010 at 12:30 (4,863 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Check the ask seller a question link......

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Some small minded tw@t appears to have read this thread.......

Seamus


Post# 484289 , Reply# 6   12/25/2010 at 22:48 (4,862 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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Try suing for libel and slander as the fleabay questioner says, Mr Seller, and you'll find out that 1) truth is a defense to libel claims, and 2) you can be found liable for abuse of process.

I'm just saying.....



Post# 484374 , Reply# 7   12/26/2010 at 14:48 (4,862 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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Hm. I got my Bendix (now Sharples) for less than half that, and it was already unbolted, and in a walk out basement. The machine was in as-is shape, but a more deluxe model.

seems like it wouldn't be too much trouble to plug it in and test it. Can't imagine why you'd not be allowed. These things are a pain to move around, even for a bunch of queers, and the market for them is minuscule. A little flexibility might go a long way in getting some cash in his pocket, and this boat anchor out of his basement.

If the seller is foolish enough to post something like that question on the advert, well that really speaks volumes.



Post# 484424 , Reply# 8   12/26/2010 at 17:51 (4,862 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        
bunch of queers?

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When i clicked on the message that someone had wrote on the ebay account he/she has wrote we are all a bunch of queers on here. How narrow minded some people are. I used to feel embarrased when i was a child about liking washing machines and until i founf this site it has helped me to realise there is nothing wrong with it and as Robert put a video on of a convention, which i watched in 2006, its said you are not alone lol.

Just cant beleive how nasty someone can be and to name this site on ebay


Post# 484427 , Reply# 9   12/26/2010 at 18:02 (4,862 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Somebody Get Me A Horse And Some Rope

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If you can't find a horse, a flatbed truck will do.

How DARE someone go sneaking off, no make that crawling off to seller to tittle-tattle.

That seller can die with his washing machine, and as for the snitch, well as "Earl" says, karma is a b***h.


Post# 484450 , Reply# 10   12/26/2010 at 20:08 (4,861 days old) by reo580 ()        
Offensive and Unacceptable

I read the listing for the Bendix and found the language used offensive and unacceptable. I understand that people have different views regarding homosexuality, but there is no place for that kind of language on an Ebay listing in 2010. I reported the listing to Ebay; I encourage others to do the same. I would have reacted the same way if they had used the " N-word" or something else. The sellers response to the comments made clearly stated that he is OK with that kind of language.

Post# 484471 , Reply# 11   12/26/2010 at 22:08 (4,861 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Who cares that some moron

S%~t Smear would call us a bunch of queers? Those of us that are not, nonwithstanding. It probably won't sell at that price.
The person that sent that info/question to the seller is an idiot. If the seller had lick of sense he would have not answered it publicly. All jetcone conveyed was that the seller was less than forthcoming. Ebay cares about commissions
and fees , period. They aren't going to do anything.


Post# 484576 , Reply# 12   12/27/2010 at 14:10 (4,861 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Wow I go away for two days and

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the world explodes! Thank you Laundress for you support and everyone else, thank you!

I think Ebay will be shocked to learn that my personal information was used in an auction as members are supposed to remain anonymous throughout! I will contact them about this breach of trust.

As for the seller good luck to him/her and may he/she live long. What happens from now on will not alter my opinion or experience there. If there is someone here dying to pay $300 bucks for that machine good luck to you, after over 900 transactions on ebay, I know the lay of the land by now.
As to who put up my name , well lets just say ebay will answer that question, then we'll know what to do. With the second largest law firm in Metro Boston, I'll get good Council!


Post# 484578 , Reply# 13   12/27/2010 at 14:14 (4,861 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
On addition

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I hardly think my opinion will sway anyone seriously interested in that machine. I'm not the good witch Glynda. But my opinion is MY OPINION and NO ONE is going to shut me up or intimidate ME! PERIOD!

Post# 484586 , Reply# 14   12/27/2010 at 15:05 (4,861 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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I hope the guy gets in trouble for printing that garbage. If it hasn't been noticed, the auction is over, it's unsold.

Post# 484593 , Reply# 15   12/27/2010 at 15:29 (4,861 days old) by Travis ()        
Dear lord...

It was in poor taste for someone to send that question to the seller. It was also in poorer taste for him to post it.

It's just an old Bendix. We've all been called worse than a bunch of queers. I mean, for the most part, that's an accurate statement, though in poor taste. Then again, maybe that person was gay and therefore it isn't so bad to call another guy a queer. I am just saying this as a fairly well adjusted gay(queer) man.

Stop the legal talk and the persecuted drama and get back to finding more washers.


Post# 484653 , Reply# 16   12/27/2010 at 19:27 (4,860 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
I reported the listing to Ebay; I encourage others to do th

Did it just before we went to the All-You-Can-Swallow for dinner!

Chuck


Post# 484683 , Reply# 17   12/27/2010 at 21:28 (4,860 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
That Seller Ought To Be Happy

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To have interest in his scrap metal from a group of collectors. Were it not for persons such as us, probably the only interest would come from scrap metal dealers.

Every person with a vintage appliance think's they have a gold mine. I can almost promise you that washer will end up sit sitting in that basement for years to come. Especially considering the seller's apparent attitude.

I mean you wan't someone to pay $$$ for a washer that probably is in anything but ready to go condition; has to be unbolted from several pounds of concrete, hauled up flights of stairs, and out of the house onto a truck. He should be paying someone to haul that chuck of metal out of his basement if he wants it gone that badly. If it weren't for the Internet, I can assure you that is exactly what would have happened.

Like I say, the seller can die with his secret. Then guess what will happen to that washer? It will be hauled out of the basement and put on the crub by whomever settles his estate, to be snapped up by roving bands of "recyclemen" on the prowl for metal/appliances.



Post# 484703 , Reply# 18   12/28/2010 at 00:12 (4,860 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
On the money Laundress

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And that machine isn't that rare either. Hyundai here I come!

Post# 484706 , Reply# 19   12/28/2010 at 00:42 (4,860 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

For one thing, we are a special group here. Sexual preference has nothing to do with our love for washers and dryers. I think the seller and the person who asked the question need to layoff from the paint chips a bit here. If it's Carol Kane(mentioned above) who is the quite abrasive fairy, she will do nicely!! Hey, It's only one machine, I'm sure there are several others sitting in basements or storage. All I have to say with regards to treatment of others, What goes around comes around!
I was called gay, queer, etc when I was in grade school because of my hobbies and interest in electricity, motors, and washing machines. Nothing has changed. I feel if that person's aim is to put us down, they need to do A LOT better than that.

Jetcone:
Please keep us up to date with what happens.


Post# 484975 , Reply# 20   12/29/2010 at 10:11 (4,859 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Confusious Say

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COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC:
... Is that a mini-nutator in your avatar Melvin? If so, tell me more. You can e-mail if you'd like. No thread derailment intended. :)

ON-TOPIC:
I'm with Jon, there are no reasons comments like the ones posted and acknowledged should be tolerated by anyone. It's discriminatory and demeaning to the gay community and has ABSOLUTELY no relevance to the sale of the item at hand.

It is what it is. It's an old, heavy machine in a bad location. It has little value to the general population and I'm not sure scrap price on it would be terribly high. Time is money folks, well said earlier, but there is more to the "find" than just the machine. Fuel, labor and other things factor into this. The seller is looking for a quick buck, but is making no concessions in my opinion whatsoever. It's right of speech to inform others of this item. Ultimately it is up to whoever would decide to take the plunge and purchase it whether or not to actually do it. Word of mouth is not only legal, but a very powerful tool, especially if you're in the business of selling things. It can also be a wrecking ball if you're "less than forthcoming" with people... or just slanderous in general in this case.

-Tim


Post# 485330 , Reply# 21   12/30/2010 at 20:09 (4,857 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Hi Tim,
Yes, the nutator in the photo is a demo. It was given to me from the store down the street, as they sold the demo Calypso unit years ago. I've since given it away to someone else here, back toward the summer time, I think. Good speaking with you today.


Post# 485338 , Reply# 22   12/30/2010 at 21:15 (4,857 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Tim

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I think you summed it up nicely!
I posted here out of no concern for the seller, but to warn other collectors of my experience with the seller.

In fact the seller is not the owner in this case, he is a go between so this is not a direct auction.




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