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Thread Number: 32148
Toilet retrofit flush valve; HydroRight Dual Flush |
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Post# 484920 , Reply# 1 12/29/2010 at 00:57 (4,860 days old) by sudsmaster  (SF Bay Area, California) |
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I bought one of those some months ago, but found that it wouldn't fit any of the four toilets on the property. The Hydroright model requires a toilet that has a slanted flush valve assembly - older toilets have flat flush valve assemblies. So I returned it. I finally found a version at Home Depot that would fit the oldest toilet here (circa 1941) but since it requires removing the upper tank from the bowl, I haven't yet gotten around to installing it.
The one I found for older toilets is the Fluidmaster S2DBL, Dual Flush system. It is specifically for older two-piece toilets. It's twice the price of the Hydroright, as well. | ||
| Post# 484924 , Reply# 2 12/29/2010 at 01:34 (4,860 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 484945 , Reply# 5 12/29/2010 at 06:29 (4,859 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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Todd....
....here you go.
There are plenty of inexpensive options here, but it all does depend on your definition of expensive too I may add.... ...and with our dollar now worth more than the USD, these prices would be higher (just) if in USD... CLICK HERE TO GO TO ronhic's LINK | ||
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Post# 484947 , Reply# 6 12/29/2010 at 06:38 (4,859 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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Tom,
I did the exact same thing you did about 8 years ago when I needed to replace the guts in our 1935 American Standard "Modernus" toilet. At that time I installed a Fluidmaster Model 400A fill valve. I also did the old trick of placing 1 1/2 bricks in the tank as well. I haven't had any problems with chunks of brick coming loose, or with soil removal from the bowl.
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| Post# 485020 , Reply# 7 12/29/2010 at 14:19 (4,859 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 485035 , Reply# 8 12/29/2010 at 16:37 (4,859 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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I've never... | ||
| Post# 485054 , Reply# 10 12/29/2010 at 18:02 (4,859 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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ahhh....
...so your newer loos are similar to all of ours then...
Small amount of water in the bottom - can be as little as a litre (quart) and then water from both the tank end and from around the sides forces the offending detritus (love that word) moving through the bend....once if starts moving over the bend, gravity takes over and literally pulls it through leaving a small amount of water in the base of loo... | ||
| Post# 485102 , Reply# 11 12/29/2010 at 22:37 (4,859 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 485109 , Reply# 12 12/29/2010 at 23:06 (4,859 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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"Didn't have to remove the tank to install these.
I know that... my point is that all the illustrations show a slanted flush valve seat, and the Hydroright also has a slanted bottom to fit a slanted flush valve. My conclusion: it will NOT work with the older flat flush valve configuration.
But maybe it will. Is the flush valve on your toilet flat, or slanted? Do they just show a slanted flush valve in order to show that it will work on those as well as flat flush valves? | ||
| Post# 485114 , Reply# 14 12/29/2010 at 23:42 (4,859 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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We may be looking at new toilets soon. Ever since we moved in this house, the toilets just haven't "felt right". I asked Karen about this and she said not only do we have the 1.5 gal toilets, but they top (where the seat rests) is at least 3-4" lower than the toilets we had at our last house. Ah ha! Therein lies the problem. | ||
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Post# 485127 , Reply# 16 12/30/2010 at 00:30 (4,859 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Well, if that's the case, I'll see if our local Costco still has the Hydroright. If so, I'll pick up another one (and just in case, Home Depot carries them as well, at almost the same price). If it fits, it would be a lot easier to install on the '41 commode than the Fluidmaster full kit. On the other hand, the low boy American Standard in the master bath has a large flush valve assembly that is probably too big for the Hydroright no matter what. | ||
| Post# 485138 , Reply# 17 12/30/2010 at 02:02 (4,859 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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We may be looking at new toilets soon.
WARNING: As of this year, most of the new toilets available (at least in California) are now required to use 1.28 GPF. Do a quick search on Google and you'll find that there has been quite an uproar about their lack of performance.
It's probably best to stay with your current toilets or just get some older, well designed 3.5 GPF toilets that are from the 1980's. | ||
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Post# 485397 , Reply# 19 12/31/2010 at 00:29 (4,858 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Well, I picked up a Hydroright at Home Depot today. It was a little less than Costco: about $17.98. My local Costco didn't have them, and I didn't feel like driving another 10 miles to the one where I *think* they still have them (and where I first saw them a few months back). Now, I recall the other reason why I'm not in a big hurry to retrofit the original 41 toilet: the shut-off valve is a bit frozen and won't shut off the water completely. So I need to get in there and replace the shutoff valve - after I figure out what connection it needs (it's probably rigid copper right now, which might be ok, but probably I should "upgrade" it to some sort of flex line. All this will probably take half a day so I'll put it off until I have attended to more urgent matters (like taking care of the grounds). | ||
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