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Post# 486758   1/6/2011 at 13:15 (4,713 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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Other than this photo, I haven't seen anything about the Maytag power spray feature. Does anyone have information about it? Is this Whirlpool's first recirculating pump system?

Post# 486786 , Reply# 1   1/6/2011 at 14:47 (4,713 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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More than likely, not their first. The original Whirlpool/Kenmore washer dryer combination units and the commercial dry cleaning units they made for laundromats had a great recirculating spray.I grew up with a Lady Kenmore combo (gas version)and it had a recirculating spray that would recirculate the water through the dispenser bowl for the detergent and a wash filter at its base.It was a wide,strong spray similar a bit to the GE filter Flo.It (on the Kenmores) was on the right hand side of the rubber boot and sprayed directly into the rear of the wash drum.

Post# 486789 , Reply# 2   1/6/2011 at 14:57 (4,713 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I remember the one on the combination washer dryers that Whirlpool made were extremely helpful in getting the load real clean and thoroughly rinsed.ours had a concentrated "Super wash' that would begin using less water which would concentrate the detergent (Dash) and then,more water would come in to continue the normal 12 minute wash.I would take my gym outfit home every Friday and it was so clean that my fellow students would pay me $2 to take theirs and have it washed in our combo!! The phys ed teacher thought I had a scam going and stopped us from doing it after seeing me get $20 from 10 guys together.Oh how I miss that great unit.I see no justifiable reason for the current manufacturers to not have these come back in to production.especially since those who made the original ones are,in most cases today, now merged together, and could make a fantastic, efficient, well constructed combo.

Post# 486820 , Reply# 3   1/6/2011 at 17:58 (4,713 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Joe, where did you see this picture? Also, is there any type of text descriptio0n associated with the product? which washer is it? I came across something last night which informed me the new Maxima uses as little as 11 gallons for a full wash cycle. that got me to pondering and wondering if WP had decided to put in some sort of rcirculating spray like Frigidaire did with their latest model that frigilux got last fall.

Post# 486840 , Reply# 4   1/6/2011 at 19:43 (4,712 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Recirculating Spray

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If that picture is a recirculating spray, I hope they have something in the water path to filter lint from the system.  Otherwise, I see potential for quite a few service calls.  Plus, I hope they have made advancements in the water pumps quiet factor.  Noisey pumps are unacceptable in these expensive machines.


Post# 486933 , Reply# 5   1/7/2011 at 08:00 (4,712 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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So, Whirlpool is now also selling their LCD washers under the Maytag name. That's the 9000 Series.

Post# 486988 , Reply# 6   1/7/2011 at 10:52 (4,712 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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except for the tinted windows :^(

Post# 486998 , Reply# 7   1/7/2011 at 11:41 (4,712 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 486999 , Reply# 8   1/7/2011 at 11:42 (4,712 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 487026 , Reply# 9   1/7/2011 at 13:50 (4,712 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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and i would also love to see a video of this washer dryer set in action as well?

Post# 487029 , Reply# 10   1/7/2011 at 13:54 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Nice... except for the tinted windows :^(

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Malcolm, the washer has a tub light that will stay on for 5 minutes. It appears to be aa decent brightness. I like the potential for these machines.

Post# 487032 , Reply# 11   1/7/2011 at 13:59 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Alexander, teh 9000 series isn't on the Maytag web site yet, as of 7 days ago. They have the 6000 & 7000 series Maxima models thought. wonder if there will be an 8000 seies. this 9000 series corresponds to the TOL WP version.

Post# 487033 , Reply# 12   1/7/2011 at 14:01 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX)        
top on top of the washer & dryer

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Would someone explain to me the purpose of this top which fits over the top of the washer and ryer, kind of like a red painted counter top and sloping metal front part.

Post# 487035 , Reply# 13   1/7/2011 at 14:01 (4,712 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Tub light...

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Actually, if one turns on the light once the cycle has started, it stays on until the cycle finishes. It's pretty awesome!

Lowes is sending us a replacement machine (same one) and it should arrive on Monday.

Post# 487037 , Reply# 14   1/7/2011 at 14:09 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ohh, thanks jamie. At least someone listened to us around here so we have a light that stys on through the whole cyccle lol. I hope the replacement solves all the issues too. These do appear to be really good machines.

Post# 487045 , Reply# 15   1/7/2011 at 14:39 (4,712 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Press and Hold for 3 Seconds

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Under the column of buttons on the right it says to press and hold for three seconds but doesn't indicate what each button does. Usually, the press and hold is for a secondary button option.


Post# 487047 , Reply# 16   1/7/2011 at 14:44 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Press and Hold for 3 Seconds

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lMalcolm, that's for the control lock feature.

Post# 487083 , Reply# 17   1/7/2011 at 17:39 (4,712 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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I guess it is LG that uses the hidden button options...


Post# 487087 , Reply# 18   1/7/2011 at 17:47 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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That is true, I've noticed LG likes to multi-layer stuff on their panels. O the model dispalyed above, there's a setting called specialty cycles. According to the user manual of the comparable WP manual, there are numerous other special cycles that you scroll through with the right & left errors on the panel to see what they are.

Post# 487088 , Reply# 19   1/7/2011 at 17:50 (4,712 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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I found this pic in the Whirlpool digital library.

Click the link, then click on Laundry on the bottom left. Currently, it is the first picture listed. There are also some coin laundry machines I hadn't seen before.


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Post# 487091 , Reply# 20   1/7/2011 at 18:00 (4,711 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        
Maytag v. Whirlpool Brands

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I think the Maytag models have simpler/cleaner controls and slightly shorter cycles than Whirlpool branded machines. For example, the Whirlpool models have a 59 minute default normal cycle time, but the Maytag machines are displaying a 52 minute normal default cycle time.

Perhaps it is similar to how Whirlpool differentiated its Duet HT products from Kenmore HEXt branded ones. The Kenmore models has slightly longer cycle times - and consequently a bit better cleaning rating in Consumer Reports compared to the Whirlpool branded models.

Kenmore offered the "stain treat" option (which started the wash at warm and heated to hot) that could be used on several cycles, while the Whirlpool models had it built into the Heavy Duty cycle.

Post# 487227 , Reply# 21   1/8/2011 at 06:25 (4,711 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Bob, the 9000 Series is supposed to roll out in April:

I always wondered what that extra opening in the Duet's gasket was all about - I though it might be to inject steam. I wonder if WP also has this option - there is an opening in the gasket... but nothing relating to a recirc pump on searspartsdirect. This is from the 97 washer:

Post# 487277 , Reply# 22   1/8/2011 at 11:30 (4,711 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Specialty Cycles??

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Someone please do scroll through and tell me what these are :) Thanks. I looked on the WP discount site....Sister works for Whirlpool, and I can get one of these for 650 to 750...But my Duet is still working perfectly fine .....LOL

Post# 487285 , Reply# 23   1/8/2011 at 12:31 (4,711 days old) by magic clean ()        

cycles are:

*Business Wear

When you choose one of these cycles, there are additional selections regarding fabric composition etc.

Bob the worksurface has a rubber mat and trays for loose change, pins, and whatever odds and ends are removed from pockets before washing. The accessory is described this way in the owners manual:

"The worksurface bridges the washer and dryer, and provides a convenient working and storage area"

Post# 487296 , Reply# 24   1/8/2011 at 13:28 (4,711 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        
Malcolm is correct

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the problem you may get with these power sprays is lint clogging the system, but at least you have a window to see the water flow diminish, and then its time to clear out the hoses and ports......

Maytag Neptunes, original 4000 series FL have this option, but with NO window, users don't realize that its not working, I found out by luck with Mother Yogi's machine one day while making it work with the door open, you could hear the pump come on but no water out of the sprinkler, the port at the top of the outter tub was clogged with lint, so once a year I make it a point to take it apart and clear out the lint......
All other Neptunes I have come across only sprinkle when filling with fresh water from the water valves, not recirculated from the tub......fortunately original Neptunes se plenty of water in their FL for maximum cleaning....but this sprinkler system seems to really help with lower water levels

Post# 487320 , Reply# 25   1/8/2011 at 15:31 (4,711 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

So.. this is like WP Direct Inject only it does it thoughout the cycle?

Post# 487468 , Reply# 26   1/9/2011 at 06:04 (4,710 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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The Direct Inject is still there. With DI, the water that flushes the dispenser is channeled through the boot directly onto the load - see video. PowerSpray seems to use a pump to recirculate wash water onto the laundry during the cycle - much like LG, Electrolux and others.

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Post# 487501 , Reply# 27   1/9/2011 at 09:44 (4,710 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

Thanks for the vid of direct inject. I have never seen it but from the term I thought it would be a powerful jet of water being shot into the tub and through the clohtes as they tumbled. I didn't think it would only be a stream of water running in.

Post# 487506 , Reply# 28   1/9/2011 at 09:56 (4,710 days old) by appnut (TX)        
What's the big deal

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This looks no different than my Frigidaire flushing the dispenser at the beginning of the wash cycle.

Post# 487543 , Reply# 29   1/9/2011 at 13:28 (4,710 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I know!!!

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My Duet does the same thing......All it is is the water pushing the detergent out of the dispenser through the boot.....But that's there the water comes from anyway to fill the tub. I don't see the big deal at all...I will say that the pressure of the spray coming out of my Duet is stronger than the one in this video.

Post# 487579 , Reply# 30   1/9/2011 at 15:12 (4,710 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i know my duet is the same as well

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i know my duet is the same as wel here is a vid of my duet staring its wash action that i took with my camera">

Post# 487590 , Reply# 31   1/9/2011 at 15:48 (4,710 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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This type of water system should have few problems with clogging if and this is a big IF the washer is used properly. Lint will only start to adhere to parts of a plumbing system if a mineral buildup or other gooey build is occurring because of bad washing practices. Such as too little detergent, washing in cold water [ below 75 degrees ] using fabric softener and then not washing it out of the clothes and machine the next time around and of course the lack of LCB doesn't help. All washing machines ever made have had the potential for clogging problems if misused. As to Maytag versions having shorter cycles than the WP versions, WP is just continuing the Maytag legacy of poorer performance that you always got with MT washers. LOL..

Post# 487594 , Reply# 32   1/9/2011 at 15:56 (4,710 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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me i tend to wash in cold water but i never had probelms with this the wash temps i use the most are warm water normal load (hot when shirts are stain*)and hot water for bedsheets colors and handwashable i use cold water

Post# 487608 , Reply# 33   1/9/2011 at 16:36 (4,710 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Specialty Cycles

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Mark, the cycles are:

Blankets/Comforters - Cotton Blankets
Blankets/Comforters - Synthetic Blankets
Blankets/Comforters - Comforter
Pillors - Feather
Pillors - Fiberfill
Pillors - Decorative
Sheets/Linens - Cotton
Sheets/Linens - Synthetic
Woll Sweaters
Sportswear - Cotton
Sportswear - Performance
Business Wear

Post# 487620 , Reply# 34   1/9/2011 at 17:00 (4,710 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Maytag poor cleaning performance legacy

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I'm willing to bet you yes the default times for comparable cycles are probably less on the Maytag. However, the MT has soil levels of light, normal, heavy, and extra heavy vs. WP's light, normal, heavy. I"m willing to bet you you can end up with the same cycle time lengths with button pushing on the MT with going the next higher soil level than comparable WP. But average consumer wouldn't know that. As Joe pointing out the Duet vs. Kenmore HexT time differences. I'm willing to bet you the same relationship exists between the current Kenmore Elites vs. comparable LG machine. It's just like consumer reports testing dishwashers using the normal cycle all across the brands being tested, but because cycle sequences and water temp targets are different for each brand using the same normal labeled cycle without options, the cleaning results vary. It's probably also very true with washers now days.

Post# 487821 , Reply# 35   1/10/2011 at 01:10 (4,709 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Oh......That's a LOT of specialty cycles.........I wonder what each of them do differently and I'll bet some use more water than others.....Especially the pillows cycle. I want one of these Maytags!....But My Duet is still working perfectly fine and right at six years old.

Post# 487844 , Reply# 36   1/10/2011 at 05:13 (4,709 days old) by appnut (TX)        
I wonder what each of them do differently

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I wonder that too, but these aren't "shown" in the cycle charts as to what is default and optional and type of tumbling and spin patterns. Disappointed about that. And I feel the same way, but my Fridgemore is working just fine too. Also, the 9000 isn't supposed to be available, and I think initially only at Sears, until April.

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