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Post# 486758 1/6/2011 at 13:15 (4,713 days old) by joe_in_philly  (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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| Post# 486786 , Reply# 1 1/6/2011 at 14:47 (4,713 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
More than likely, not their first. The original Whirlpool/Kenmore washer dryer combination units and the commercial dry cleaning units they made for laundromats had a great recirculating spray.I grew up with a Lady Kenmore combo (gas version)and it had a recirculating spray that would recirculate the water through the dispenser bowl for the detergent and a wash filter at its base.It was a wide,strong spray similar a bit to the GE filter Flo.It (on the Kenmores) was on the right hand side of the rubber boot and sprayed directly into the rear of the wash drum.
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| Post# 486789 , Reply# 2 1/6/2011 at 14:57 (4,713 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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I remember the one on the combination washer dryers that Whirlpool made were extremely helpful in getting the load real clean and thoroughly rinsed.ours had a concentrated "Super wash' that would begin using less water which would concentrate the detergent (Dash) and then,more water would come in to continue the normal 12 minute wash.I would take my gym outfit home every Friday and it was so clean that my fellow students would pay me $2 to take theirs and have it washed in our combo!! The phys ed teacher thought I had a scam going and stopped us from doing it after seeing me get $20 from 10 guys together.Oh how I miss that great unit.I see no justifiable reason for the current manufacturers to not have these come back in to production.especially since those who made the original ones are,in most cases today, now merged together, and could make a fantastic, efficient, well constructed combo.
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Post# 486820 , Reply# 3 1/6/2011 at 17:58 (4,713 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Joe, where did you see this picture? Also, is there any type of text descriptio0n associated with the product? which washer is it? I came across something last night which informed me the new Maxima uses as little as 11 gallons for a full wash cycle. that got me to pondering and wondering if WP had decided to put in some sort of rcirculating spray like Frigidaire did with their latest model that frigilux got last fall.
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| Post# 486840 , Reply# 4 1/6/2011 at 19:43 (4,712 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Recirculating Spray
If that picture is a recirculating spray, I hope they have something in the water path to filter lint from the system. Otherwise, I see potential for quite a few service calls. Plus, I hope they have made advancements in the water pumps quiet factor. Noisey pumps are unacceptable in these expensive machines. Malcolm | ||
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Post# 486933 , Reply# 5 1/7/2011 at 08:00 (4,712 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 486988 , Reply# 6 1/7/2011 at 10:52 (4,712 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Nice... | ||
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Post# 486998 , Reply# 7 1/7/2011 at 11:41 (4,712 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 486999 , Reply# 8 1/7/2011 at 11:42 (4,712 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 487026 , Reply# 9 1/7/2011 at 13:50 (4,712 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 487029 , Reply# 10 1/7/2011 at 13:54 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Nice... except for the tinted windows :^( | ||
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Post# 487032 , Reply# 11 1/7/2011 at 13:59 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 487033 , Reply# 12 1/7/2011 at 14:01 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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top on top of the washer & dryer | ||
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Post# 487035 , Reply# 13 1/7/2011 at 14:01 (4,712 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Tub light... | ||
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Post# 487037 , Reply# 14 1/7/2011 at 14:09 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 487045 , Reply# 15 1/7/2011 at 14:39 (4,712 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Press and Hold for 3 Seconds | ||
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Post# 487047 , Reply# 16 1/7/2011 at 14:44 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Press and Hold for 3 Seconds | ||
| Post# 487083 , Reply# 17 1/7/2011 at 17:39 (4,712 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Ahh... | ||
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Post# 487087 , Reply# 18 1/7/2011 at 17:47 (4,712 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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That is true, I've noticed LG likes to multi-layer stuff on their panels. O the model dispalyed above, there's a setting called specialty cycles. According to the user manual of the comparable WP manual, there are numerous other special cycles that you scroll through with the right & left errors on the panel to see what they are.
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Post# 487088 , Reply# 19 1/7/2011 at 17:50 (4,712 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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Bob:
I found this pic in the Whirlpool digital library. Click the link, then click on Laundry on the bottom left. Currently, it is the first picture listed. There are also some coin laundry machines I hadn't seen before. Joe CLICK HERE TO GO TO joe_in_philly's LINK | ||
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Post# 487091 , Reply# 20 1/7/2011 at 18:00 (4,711 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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Maytag v. Whirlpool Brands
I think the Maytag models have simpler/cleaner controls and slightly shorter cycles than Whirlpool branded machines. For example, the Whirlpool models have a 59 minute default normal cycle time, but the Maytag machines are displaying a 52 minute normal default cycle time.
Perhaps it is similar to how Whirlpool differentiated its Duet HT products from Kenmore HEXt branded ones. The Kenmore models has slightly longer cycle times - and consequently a bit better cleaning rating in Consumer Reports compared to the Whirlpool branded models. Kenmore offered the "stain treat" option (which started the wash at warm and heated to hot) that could be used on several cycles, while the Whirlpool models had it built into the Heavy Duty cycle. | ||
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Post# 487227 , Reply# 21 1/8/2011 at 06:25 (4,711 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Bob, the 9000 Series is supposed to roll out in April: http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=13787673
I always wondered what that extra opening in the Duet's gasket was all about - I though it might be to inject steam. I wonder if WP also has this option - there is an opening in the gasket... but nothing relating to a recirc pump on searspartsdirect. This is from the 97 washer: 
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| Post# 487277 , Reply# 22 1/8/2011 at 11:30 (4,711 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
Specialty Cycles?? | ||
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Post# 487296 , Reply# 24 1/8/2011 at 13:28 (4,711 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Malcolm is correct
the problem you may get with these power sprays is lint clogging the system, but at least you have a window to see the water flow diminish, and then its time to clear out the hoses and ports......
Maytag Neptunes, original 4000 series FL have this option, but with NO window, users don't realize that its not working, I found out by luck with Mother Yogi's machine one day while making it work with the door open, you could hear the pump come on but no water out of the sprinkler, the port at the top of the outter tub was clogged with lint, so once a year I make it a point to take it apart and clear out the lint...... All other Neptunes I have come across only sprinkle when filling with fresh water from the water valves, not recirculated from the tub......fortunately original Neptunes se plenty of water in their FL for maximum cleaning....but this sprinkler system seems to really help with lower water levels | ||
| Post# 487320 , Reply# 25 1/8/2011 at 15:31 (4,711 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania) | ||
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So.. this is like WP Direct Inject only it does it thoughout the cycle? | ||
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Post# 487468 , Reply# 26 1/9/2011 at 06:04 (4,710 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 487501 , Reply# 27 1/9/2011 at 09:44 (4,710 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania) | ||
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Thanks for the vid of direct inject. I have never seen it but from the term I thought it would be a powerful jet of water being shot into the tub and through the clohtes as they tumbled. I didn't think it would only be a stream of water running in. | ||
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Post# 487506 , Reply# 28 1/9/2011 at 09:56 (4,710 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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What's the big deal | ||
| Post# 487543 , Reply# 29 1/9/2011 at 13:28 (4,710 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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I know!!!
Appnut.
My Duet does the same thing......All it is is the water pushing the detergent out of the dispenser through the boot.....But that's there the water comes from anyway to fill the tub. I don't see the big deal at all...I will say that the pressure of the spray coming out of my Duet is stronger than the one in this video. | ||
| Post# 487579 , Reply# 30 1/9/2011 at 15:12 (4,710 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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i know my duet is the same as well | ||
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Post# 487590 , Reply# 31 1/9/2011 at 15:48 (4,710 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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RECIRCULATING WASH SYSTEM
This type of water system should have few problems with clogging if and this is a big IF the washer is used properly. Lint will only start to adhere to parts of a plumbing system if a mineral buildup or other gooey build is occurring because of bad washing practices. Such as too little detergent, washing in cold water [ below 75 degrees ] using fabric softener and then not washing it out of the clothes and machine the next time around and of course the lack of LCB doesn't help. All washing machines ever made have had the potential for clogging problems if misused. As to Maytag versions having shorter cycles than the WP versions, WP is just continuing the Maytag legacy of poorer performance that you always got with MT washers. LOL..
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| Post# 487594 , Reply# 32 1/9/2011 at 15:56 (4,710 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 487608 , Reply# 33 1/9/2011 at 16:36 (4,710 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Specialty Cycles
Mark, the cycles are:
Blankets/Comforters - Cotton Blankets Blankets/Comforters - Synthetic Blankets Blankets/Comforters - Comforter Pillors - Feather Pillors - Fiberfill Pillors - Decorative Sheets/Linens - Cotton Sheets/Linens - Synthetic Woll Sweaters Kidswear Sportswear - Cotton Sportswear - Performance Intimates Business Wear | ||
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Post# 487620 , Reply# 34 1/9/2011 at 17:00 (4,710 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Maytag poor cleaning performance legacy
John,
I'm willing to bet you yes the default times for comparable cycles are probably less on the Maytag. However, the MT has soil levels of light, normal, heavy, and extra heavy vs. WP's light, normal, heavy. I"m willing to bet you you can end up with the same cycle time lengths with button pushing on the MT with going the next higher soil level than comparable WP. But average consumer wouldn't know that. As Joe pointing out the Duet vs. Kenmore HexT time differences. I'm willing to bet you the same relationship exists between the current Kenmore Elites vs. comparable LG machine. It's just like consumer reports testing dishwashers using the normal cycle all across the brands being tested, but because cycle sequences and water temp targets are different for each brand using the same normal labeled cycle without options, the cleaning results vary. It's probably also very true with washers now days. | ||
| Post# 487821 , Reply# 35 1/10/2011 at 01:10 (4,709 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Post# 487844 , Reply# 36 1/10/2011 at 05:13 (4,709 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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I wonder what each of them do differently
I wonder that too, but these aren't "shown" in the cycle charts as to what is default and optional and type of tumbling and spin patterns. Disappointed about that. And I feel the same way, but my Fridgemore is working just fine too. Also, the 9000 isn't supposed to be available, and I think initially only at Sears, until April.
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