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Norge Washer - No Spin Cycle
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Post# 486762   1/6/2011 at 13:46 (4,851 days old) by pilsnermonkey ()        

I have a Norge washer model LWA 2040 A 00. Approximate vintage: 1967. The agitate cycle works fine. The spin cycle does not. Water is drained from tub in spin cycle but tub does not turn/spin. The lid switch seems to work just fine, the tub just doesn't spin. No unusual sounds. Any suggestions.




Post# 486782 , Reply# 1   1/6/2011 at 14:41 (4,851 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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may be the solinoid???

Post# 486787 , Reply# 2   1/6/2011 at 14:48 (4,851 days old) by pilsnermonkey ()        
May have solution.

Thanks laundromat and Aloha! I think I found the culprit.

In my attached photo below, there is an arrow pointing to a bolt that serves as the pivot for an arm that disengages the agitate cycle to allow a spin. The bolt is loose but badly corroded. The arm has a lot of play in it. I can pull the arm with my hand and the spin cycle then works. I'm in the process of de-corroding the bolt with WD40. If I can tighten that bolt, I think I will hopefully solve the problem. Will report back.


Post# 486816 , Reply# 3   1/6/2011 at 17:17 (4,851 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Pilsnermonkey, could I trouble for some photos of your washer--control panel (upclose) to see the control details as well as shot of the interior of the washer itself. thank you very much. also, how long have you had the machine? What's it's history, if ya know it. Cool to have found another Norge around--there are some Norge fans here!!!

Post# 486847 , Reply# 4   1/6/2011 at 20:24 (4,851 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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Oh yeah, LOVE those Norges! (and the Signature Montgomery Norge machines as well)

Post# 487055 , Reply# 5   1/7/2011 at 14:58 (4,850 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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A '67 Norge that still functions?

Was it only used for light loads on Sundays during total solar eclipses or what?

Forget the bolt. You need an exorcist.


Post# 487067 , Reply# 6   1/7/2011 at 15:43 (4,850 days old) by pilsnermonkey ()        
Need Brake Solenoid for Norge LWA 2040 A 00 (PN 33-6357 or 3

Ha ha. Yeah, I can get some photos but I'm scrambling to find a replacement solenoid. Care to see some really old dust bunnies? Original part number 33-6357. Substitute part number 35-0472. I have found a couple for $50-$60 but that is just a little steep imho. Anyone happen to have one of these solenoids laying around? Photos to follow.

Post# 487124 , Reply# 7   1/7/2011 at 20:39 (4,850 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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I've even got a perfectly functioning '64 Norge washer and dryer as my daily drivers! They rock!

Post# 487127 , Reply# 8   1/7/2011 at 20:45 (4,850 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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Had to include the obligatory money shot!

Post# 487278 , Reply# 9   1/8/2011 at 11:30 (4,849 days old) by pilsnermonkey ()        
Eek a mouse!

This is sadly humorous. I found a solenoid locally for $15. Jackpot! Picking it up today. I've been putzing with the machine and discovered that it no longer fills with water.

When setting up a new wash cycle, I turn the control dial as usual to the first position. Normally, the washer fills and then starts into the agitate cycle. Now it's going straight to agitate without filling with water.

So I pulled off the rear cover to inspect the pump and stuff and found an unusually large dust bunny in with the wiring to the motor. Closer inspection reveals that this ain't no dust bunny...it's a fried mouse! His location is in a critical wiring spot at the motor. I'm thinking maybe he was the cause of the initial problem (blown solenoid) AND the newly discovered pump problem. What do you guys think about the filling issue? Any help greatly appreciated. I have a bunch of photos that I've put on a webpage here:

bowvalleyit.ca/images/Washer/wash...

Please have a peek. Hope I got all the photo requests handled. If not, holler and I can post more.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO pilsnermonkey's LINK


Post# 487317 , Reply# 10   1/8/2011 at 15:27 (4,849 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Looks like you got one of the first burp-a-lator 20-lb. Norges if it is 1967.

Post# 487330 , Reply# 11   1/8/2011 at 16:23 (4,849 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Unless the control panels were considerably different between Norge and Signature in 1967, I am thinking it's not a '67. My mom's Signature had a slanted panel, with selector buttons similar to those on Todd's machine, but with the newer white agitator. Maybe the agitator is the key to figuring out the exact age of PM's machine. I'm going to guess 1966.

Post# 487346 , Reply# 12   1/8/2011 at 16:53 (4,849 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
vintage of the norge

i'm thinking the motor and pump look more 1970-72 to me.
in any case a real survivor in nice shape!


Post# 487416 , Reply# 13   1/8/2011 at 21:29 (4,849 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Isn't Ben's Wash'n'Touch Warge a 1967? That had the white agitator. and it had the slanted panel just as Ralph described. Our 1964 Norge had the black abeklite agitator with the same style slanted panel Ralph. Our tub ring matched the same speckled porcelain pattern as the wash basket too.

Post# 487417 , Reply# 14   1/8/2011 at 21:38 (4,849 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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A client of mine had a very similar set as your Norge from 1974. The panel had nearly identical graphics, etc. but was a step up with a speed selector dial in addition to infinite water level and four temp options. The burp-up white agitator didn't show up until around '69 or so, this washer was a '69 Her Majesty.

Post# 487418 , Reply# 15   1/8/2011 at 21:39 (4,849 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Her Majesty's Money Shot

Post# 487419 , Reply# 16   1/8/2011 at 21:40 (4,849 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Panel shot


Post# 487420 , Reply# 17   1/8/2011 at 21:40 (4,849 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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What do we have here?


Post# 487422 , Reply# 18   1/8/2011 at 21:58 (4,849 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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That '69 Signature 18 is almost identical to my mom's white two-speed '67, or maybe hers was a '68. The console light didn't run the full length under the panel, just a short one in the center but knobs and buttons were the same. Lint filter was a crescent mounted at top rear of tub.

Post# 487938 , Reply# 19   1/10/2011 at 13:56 (4,847 days old) by pilsnermonkey ()        
=(

Replaced solenoid = no go. Tub still does not fill at beginning of wash/agitate cycle. It goes straight to agitate. The next cycle is supposed to be cool-down, but the timer/dial just hangs at that point. Any ideas much appreciated.

Post# 487952 , Reply# 20   1/10/2011 at 14:54 (4,847 days old) by pilsnermonkey ()        
Monday is wash day!!!

Duh. Forgot to close lid to let machine fully cycle. This machine came with the house we've been in for 5 years. I believe it was purchased new by the original owners. Matching dryer, if there ever was one, is long gone. House was rented out for 1 year to a European cross country ski team before we arrived. Replacement part I found (see photo) has PN 8662-S (crossed out in pen) and 12-75 (12.75?? 12 75??) stamped on it. Does the 'W' represent Westinghouse? Thanks for your posts and interest. Hoping for another 30 years out of this puppy.

Post# 488025 , Reply# 21   1/10/2011 at 18:28 (4,847 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
NORGE BRAKE SOLENOID

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The [W] stands for Westward they were a supplier of after market parts for major appliances. 12-75 is the date of manufacture December 1975. Good luck with your washer not to be negative but it won't last another 30 years.

Post# 488150 , Reply# 22   1/11/2011 at 09:51 (4,847 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Westward Solenoid

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I do believe this is the same or VERY similar solenoid use in the GE Spotscrubber washer's Filter-Flo hose to cut the supply. How interesting!

You know, I've never seen a real Norge working in person... Which is odd because my extended family had a couple when I was growing up, but as I recall they were on the back porch in both occasions and not in service. I remember thinking how mean that black agitator looked in there, like an angry old lady with her hands on her hips.

-Tim


Post# 489199 , Reply# 23   1/15/2011 at 20:51 (4,842 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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We like mean old ladies with their hands on their hips!

Post# 489202 , Reply# 24   1/15/2011 at 21:01 (4,842 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
"I've never seen a real Norge working "

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There's a very good reason for that . . .

Post# 489211 , Reply# 25   1/15/2011 at 21:28 (4,842 days old) by appnut (TX)        
I've never seen a real Norge working in person

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There are enough that have been able to be salvaged by club members you should some day finally get to see a real one. Especially after their perforated tub design came along, they were probably the best cleaning top loading automatics of their day. I didn't like the pre-programmed button cycles on our 1964 Norge. But everything else about the machine I loved and it washed some of the dirtiest laundry of our family's existence during that period. Norges were best for the greasiest, grimiest clothes. In terms of claning and capacity, the Frigidaire 1/18 was next in line.

Post# 489214 , Reply# 26   1/15/2011 at 21:39 (4,842 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
norges at the laundromat

in 1979,one of my favorite laundromats was norge equipped-
used to love going there for a listen;all the clanks,bangs,
groans,thumps and squeals-could hardly hear the asteroids
and space invaders games there over the din...
BTW we used to go to the laundromat to wash "greaser"clothes
-laundromat had a few machines marked "greaser"


Post# 489216 , Reply# 27   1/15/2011 at 21:47 (4,842 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
There's a very good reason for that . . .

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SmiliesFTW.com

Post# 489217 , Reply# 28   1/15/2011 at 21:48 (4,842 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Pre-Programmed Buttons

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Bob, all of those piano keys on the mid 70's LK machines are why (along with super high price tags) I steered clear of them when shopping with my mom. It seemed to me that they took all of the fun and control out of doing a load of laundry.

Post# 489224 , Reply# 29   1/15/2011 at 22:05 (4,842 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I actually loved Lady Kenmores. I pined for the new Kenmore that replaced the Norge to be a Lady Kenmore, but knew my mom wouldn't go for it and so the Kenmore 800 was the compromise. I simply did not agree with 3 of the 8 buttons on the Norge. The only perfect pushbutton washers were the Lady Kenmores. It's how I taught myself to sort laundry and wash clothes (God knows my mother couldn't!!). Always the Lady Kenmore way. Nuff said!!!


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