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Post# 487297   1/8/2011 at 13:32 (4,707 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        

I have to catch myself.....because I know it's wrong.....but, I think I am falling in love with LG's new top load wave-washer and dryer. I love my Speed Queen AWN542, and matching dryer, but there is some kind of allure about this big boxy modern machine that I like. I do not like the fact that it is made in Korea, but I like the way it washes compared to the Cabrio/Hydrowave/Bravos etc... I dunno, maybe it's just lust..LOL, I will remain faithful to my Speed Queen, but that doesn't mean I can't look........right?

Post# 487303 , Reply# 1   1/8/2011 at 14:09 (4,706 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
LG 's newest Wave

So does this machine work like the whirlpool cabrio, whirpool calypso and maytag brava ? I can't see a video on the website for the inside of the drum to see how this machine operates and this new cold water washing is suppose to work?I'm not convinced yet that cold water washing will ever kill bacteria out of sport / fitness attire it just doesn't work, I know from my own experience I've thrown more clothes away by using cold water and having it ending up smelling like it was scorched or it walked through a smoldering blast furnace. These new machines are easy on the eyes though.

Post# 487308 , Reply# 2   1/8/2011 at 15:00 (4,706 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I too am tempted to get a set also......but I would like to see them with a full load of clothes....but that wave flowing over top looks to be effective......have you seen the little demo model at stores.....

Post# 487310 , Reply# 3   1/8/2011 at 15:08 (4,706 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        

I have seen the little demo at Home Depot, I would have killed to have a toy like that growing up LOL. There are some videos of the machine on You tube.

Post# 487321 , Reply# 4   1/8/2011 at 15:35 (4,706 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Cold water washing and fitness gear....

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Quite simply, hang it outside to dry....the sun sorts it out.

98.6% of Australian households have a washing machine and 74% of Australians wash clothes in cold water.....

I can guarantee you that the majority do not use LCB in their washing, though many people do have and use 'colour safe' bleach....

The key difference is that most people here hang their washing out which will kill bacteria. Just over 50% of Australians have a dryer and of those that do, less than 25% use it once a week or more.

So cold water washing works....I can promise you, that as a nation we don't stink or smell 'musty/mouldy', but the way the majority of us wash our clothes is slightly different to both Europe and North America...

Post# 487359 , Reply# 5   1/8/2011 at 17:14 (4,706 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        

Well I must say "Thanks" to you ronhic but I'm not sure if I'm convinced that it will work,are you suggesting I soak these for a bit before the machine?
And what do I do in the winter when there are a gale force winds coming in off the atlantic ocean coupled with blinding snow, I ask this because I was laughing so hard when I read your advice I couldn't resist asking about us here in North America when the cold wind blows what do we then use the warm option? I'm not being sarcastic or mean, I've read your replies and threads before and enjoy them but this one I've become most fond of LOL!! So if you can help one from the "old school" when it comes to laundry, one who insists that powder is just about the only way, there's another segment in my laundry that may need fixing, Yes? And one more thing, if you don't mind, does cold water washing keep white clothes white? If I can do laundry successfully in cold water please tell me how so I can cut back on the oil consumption.
Thanks Again.
Cheers Dawling's :)

Post# 487371 , Reply# 6   1/8/2011 at 17:34 (4,706 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        

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" but the way the majority of us wash our clothes is slightly different to both Europe and North America..."

I've seen they way my Cuz' toploader works and its STRANGE!

The agitator whirls around many,many many times in ONE direction and then stops and backs out again many many many times in the other direction! Very weird!!
Very Downunder and very unlike anything else!

And don't get me started on your drying closets!!! What a hoot!

Post# 487379 , Reply# 7   1/8/2011 at 17:51 (4,706 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Don't look too hard, it just might hypnotize and brainwash you into getting one of those sets. Only ~2 years down the road it does a #3 on your floor, or the motor and boards decide to go on strike. If that happened, would you still look at the set the same way you did at the time you wished you had them?

Post# 487384 , Reply# 8   1/8/2011 at 18:20 (4,706 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        
so what you're saying is................................

SLAP.......................SNAP OUT OF IT!!!!!! lol

Post# 487406 , Reply# 9   1/8/2011 at 20:15 (4,706 days old) by amyswasher ()        
That toy at HP

I don't know how, but my kid found that thing at a desk there. She wanted to buy it and bugged the people till it was confirmed it was not for sale. She just knew they had a hundred in the back. Everybody at the appliance/kitchen dept. will remember her from now on. She wasn't misbehaving or anything like that, but was determined to buy one. She went through two associates and a manager, and one phone call later before she was satisfied with the answer (she wanted to know why it was there if they weren't for sale)

Post# 487436 , Reply# 10   1/8/2011 at 23:08 (4,706 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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That was why I commented that we 'wash slightly differently'...we don't have to deal with the icy winters that North America gets...

We don't get snow in winter (though some places do) and even when it's -8c, which is cold for us, clothes will be mostly dry when put outside provided you get them in before 4.30pm...

In answer to your question about 'Whites retaining white', if the detergent is removing the soiling, regardless of if washed in hot, warm or cold water, then the whites should still be white...

Our consumer magazine here tests ALL detergents in 'cold' (20c) water....the top performer removed 86% (OMOMATIC) followed by Radient (81%) and then COLD POWER (79%)...differences of 6% or more are generally visible without special equipment...

These were all powders.

Liquids are only a small proportion of our market, even though there are plenty of them, and Choice reqularly comments that they don't clean as they don't tend to test them. Personally, I don't use them and never have...I'm 'old school' when it comes to my primary laundry detergents - POWDERS only...

Only you will know if you are happy using cold water. There is no harm in trying it though, or use a tempered cold wash rather than tap cold...

But my comments about bacteria still stand....the sun, when available, is the safest, cheapest, and best way to kill the blighters....

Post# 487440 , Reply# 11   1/8/2011 at 23:11 (4,706 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Drying cupboards.....

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....are fabulous! Don't knock 'em until you've lived with them..

An 'airing' cupboard is recycling at it's most efficient really...

- Take one double 6' tall cupboard (normally in the laundry)
- add one electric hot water storage tank (or the storage tank only if gas) in the left or right side...
- run a rail above the tank from left to right
- hang items on hangers on the other side, heaviest closest to the tank....

Voila! Dry clothes in the morning.....all for free

Post# 487474 , Reply# 12   1/9/2011 at 07:34 (4,706 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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I would totally freak out figuring 14 % of the skid marks equally spread on my pillow cases with the top performer.
I am so glad they don`t do the detergent ratings in percents here. Just kidding.

Post# 487480 , Reply# 13   1/9/2011 at 08:02 (4,706 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)        

Guilty pleasures--- job #2 is at HD--- (I'm a cashier). Last thing at night I have to do is run the garbage to receiving--I'll detour through appliances and play with the LG toy- love the blue lights and the water, and you can hear the thing whirling away from a distance! Way cool!

Post# 487488 , Reply# 14   1/9/2011 at 08:19 (4,706 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        

Thanks Ronhic,
I can certainly try it on a few items but the winter probably won't go so well for air drying, I'm willing to try it like you I'd have to get it outdoors for the sun to rise on it and back inside by 4:00 before it gets too damp, only a matter of letting it dry in the utility room on the line there, it's not a drying cupboard but can act like one.The furnace and hot water heater are there and anything with cold air on it will dry pretty fast. I usually hang a load of jeans on this line opened the window for a few hours with the door closed, then closed the window to complete the drying cycle it works great and saves from using the dryer for jeans that takes time to dry.When I was buying my front load washer I was given the great drying tip to rinse everything in warm water in the winter that way the dryer doesn't take as long to dry them, I thought and asked the sales clerk: Wouldn't it be better to start the dryer while your unloading the washer to put the clothes in a warm machine? I have two drying racks I use as well so I don't always tumble everything,so to day I'm going to try a load of dark towels on cold with the Persils detergent I have and see what happens.
Thanks Again

Post# 487503 , Reply# 15   1/9/2011 at 09:47 (4,706 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Yes, that's what I'm saying, but in a nicer way. Those LG TL machines look nice, BUT are inferior when it comes to materials construction compared to a Speed Queen. At the end of the day, if you just got to get one, maybe wait until you see them on CL? or Maybe set your SQ's a side for when the LG's go on strike and give you their list of demands.

Post# 487535 , Reply# 16   1/9/2011 at 12:33 (4,706 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
not so "slightly" different anyhow

I am very positive that sun drying helps a lot.

I remember my mom telling me that our grandmother and grand-grandmother (and almost all people in the neighbourhood) used to "lawn bleach" clothes all together. (And no, exposing your washing to your neighbours' eyes has never been a major offense here, it was just a sign of using reasonable thinking, effort and care to keep your belongings nice - talking about these "no visible clothes lines rules" in some parts of the US. (=> not Desperate Housewives but Diligent Housewives).
This is what they used to do back then:
After washing and some damp drying on the clothes line, they would simply spread all whites on the grass and wait for the sunshine to do its part.
Once the linens dried out completely, they would simply give it another shot of moisture using the watering can or the garden hose.

I was told that the plants underneath (the lawn that is) releases a lot of oxygen forming a natural bleach (moisture and sunlight exposure provided.)
I am not a bright light in chemistry but it still sounds logical to me.
(photosynthetic oxygen production and all these biological wonders).

I had tried it once, bleaching works perfectly - yet I will give it another go and try cold washing and sun bleaching on grass against sportswear funky odours.
I wouldn't be too surprised if all of it works fine.
Hello springtime, will you come soon? ;-)

Post# 487537 , Reply# 17   1/9/2011 at 12:43 (4,706 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
PS.: forgot that toy/demo washer

Can someone send me one?
(Will do anything for that! - kidding only, rather almost(!) anything *g*)
It is soooooo cute ;)

Post# 487561 , Reply# 18   1/9/2011 at 14:22 (4,705 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh Ron the drying cupboard

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I used in Perth was electric white metal with a money timer! 20 cents for 20 minutes, it took DAYS to dry my undies!!
The Hotel advertised full laundry!! It had a nice Maytag with Aussie fins on the gyrator, and this giant metal drying closet.

Post# 487566 , Reply# 19   1/9/2011 at 14:36 (4,705 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
20 cents for 20 minutes

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I've not seen one of those used commercially....however, my aunt in Sydney has one from the early 1970's. They are about the size of a tall single door fridge...

...and ASKO now sell one. Calling it 'new' in any shape or form is a tad stretching though...


Post# 487629 , Reply# 20   1/9/2011 at 17:17 (4,705 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
@20 cents

Didn't Maytag have a drying center available only a few short years ago with the tumbler underneath and two drying sections on top one to hang things and the other to dry flat? Where or what happened to that?

Post# 487631 , Reply# 21   1/9/2011 at 17:23 (4,705 days old) by ptcruiser51 (Boynton Beach, FL)        
Maytag drying center

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Was discontinued after 18 months; low demand. We had a tuff time getting rid of ours off the floor when it clearanced.

The little LG toy gets a workout here. Everyone loves it and wants to buy one. I know who it's going home with...eventually!

Post# 487706 , Reply# 22   1/9/2011 at 19:35 (4,705 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        

My wife really wanted one of those Maytag drying centers. But by the time we were ready to buy, I couldn't find one.

Post# 488715 , Reply# 23   1/13/2011 at 15:18 (4,701 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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So I'm assuming that the TL washers don't have the front load spider issues...That being said, I wonder what they do in manufacturing these TL machines to make them crap out in a few years?

Post# 488723 , Reply# 24   1/13/2011 at 15:48 (4,701 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Here is something you may want to ask yourself before buying that LG: If I buy this machine, WITHOUT the extended warranty, and it should break, will appliance repair businesses in my area service it?

Not every appliance repair business or repair person you know will service foreign manufacture appliances, ESPECIALLY LG, Samsung, Bosch, Asko, or Miele.

Find out what businesses will service your machine. If you don't find any locally, you might want to pass on buying the LG.

I wonder what they do in manufacturing these TL machines to make them crap out in a few years?

Oh, there's lots of crap on that machine ready to fail. Electronics are good for failing, especially if the supply that you feed it is not adequate. I would think on this LG machine, you would need a tub seal somewhere to keep water from going down the shaft to the motor. What ever is going to fail on this machine has to fail in a way to which either the part is too costly for most people to justify repairing the machine, or the part requires a lot of work in the form of labor costs to replace.

Post# 488818 , Reply# 25   1/13/2011 at 23:16 (4,701 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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The LG is THE ONLY top loading washer I would even consider buying. It has a massive capacity,stainless steel wash basket and impeller, and has a great recirculating spray that really helps save on water and gets the wash extremely clean as well as thoroughly rinsed.The lid doesn't slam and it's not at all op'd like the new Whirlpools are.The matching dryer is also nice and not over priced. Whirlpools are $2400 each!!!!

Post# 488842 , Reply# 26   1/14/2011 at 03:20 (4,701 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I do know PLENTY of places here in Lexington service LG's......That's not an issue.......

The issue I have when/if a washer happens to break is potentially being without a washer for two to three weeks while they order parts and try to figure out what's wrong.....etc.

I agree that I would not consider the TL HE washers from Whirlpool based on the videos I have seen. I would however take the LG TL washer. It looks great but I do know looks can be deceiving .........I've just never had many problems with any Whirlpool appliance ever...just minor things here and there.

Post# 488857 , Reply# 27   1/14/2011 at 07:53 (4,701 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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Sear's service (A&E) is now making LG one of their major brands they service.
There are some independent service companies that will not service anything but GE, Whirlpool, Maytag, KitchenAide, Amana, Speed Queen etc. I know of one that used to would not service anything but a Maytag, and even then if you didn't buy it from him; he may have to wait a week or so before he got around to you.

I don't kow if they are being snobs or if they have difficulty being reimbursed for the repairs.

Post# 488943 , Reply# 28   1/14/2011 at 16:11 (4,700 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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So I noticed on the videos of this machine on Youtube that it looked like it had a pretty full tub of water.....But it would spin one way pretty fast (with the tub FULL of water while spraying high pressure in all directions on the load....Then it stopped and would spin the OTHER way doing the same thing......

It's REALLY cool! But is this washing or rinsing? I'm confused at what it is actually doing?

Post# 489021 , Reply# 29   1/15/2011 at 00:33 (4,700 days old) by coldspot ()        

I find the drying coffin to be worthless. A few company still sell them in the us.


Post# 491089 , Reply# 30   1/23/2011 at 19:21 (4,691 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Drying cabinets

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Now thats a blast from the past I can remember back in the 60's tumble dryers were few and far between but there was a drying cabinet called a Flatley. It made everything you put in it bone dry in a short time and turned all towels to cardboard. If you let anything touch the bottom it became scortched you could get them in gas or electric and one thing they were good for was heating the laundry room. Give me a tumble dryer any day ...

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