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Am I the only one who still likes CRT "tube" TV's?
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Post# 488205   1/11/2011 at 13:26 (3,746 days old) by austinado16 ()        

I have to admit, I still love the picture quality of CRT style televisions. More specifically, the big Sony XBR Trinitrons of years gone by.

Just picked up a big 40" Sony XBR (KV-40XBR800) with matching stand for $50. Didn't even take it out of my pickup...I just drove it right over to the local TV repair place so they could fine tune the picture even sharper than the "normal" factory settings. Can't wait to get it back. It's about 6 years old, and the original owner told me he paid $3,500 for it! He couldn't give the silly thing away on Craigslist.





Post# 488206 , Reply# 1   1/11/2011 at 13:29 (3,746 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Definitely. My 22" Sony give better picture than my 42" Sharp flat. If there is movement on the screen, the Sony "follows" it much better. I have yet to see any flat screen in any store follow as good as a CRT.

Post# 488212 , Reply# 2   1/11/2011 at 13:49 (3,745 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
yes to CRTs

i still like them-i have a 42"lcd and a 42"plasma,but still
really enjoy my CRTs as well-newest is an '87,oldest a '57
CRTs have been perfected and refined over the decades.


Post# 488214 , Reply# 3   1/11/2011 at 14:06 (3,745 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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I just bought a 23 inch Magnavox Total Automatic Color, I have yet to see the picture, I bought the unit mostly for the stereo set and the cabinet. I watch Comcast digital cable on a 9" Zenith color set, I also own a 1987 Zenith 19" stereo color, and a 1987 13" Zenith color. So yes, I will have and watch CRT as long as they work.

Post# 488219 , Reply# 4   1/11/2011 at 14:32 (3,745 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
Todd,

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I had the exact same set as the one you just picked up. Ours died in July and we ended up getting a 40" Toshiba LCD, and I miss the old Sony so much. The tech that looked at our Sony told me that a circuit board was fried and that a new or reconditioned one was impossible to get. Even if he could have gotten a new board, he couldn't guarantee the part's longevity.

The guy you got your set from is spot on about the price. Ours came from my cousin who wanted a plasma and gave us the Sony, free for the hauling. Those things weigh about 250 lbs, and are beasts to move though.




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Post# 488223 , Reply# 5   1/11/2011 at 14:51 (3,745 days old) by austinado16 ()        
304lbs of CRT goodness!

Yes, these 40's are the largest CRT Television ever built (according to what I've read). We have the 700 series which is a year or 3 older and doesn't have the DVI connection on the back. I wanted this one because it's a newer version and it has the DVI, so I can buy a DVI-to-HDMI adaptor and hook my wife's new Sony Wi-Fi Blue-Ray Disc player into this bad boy.

Too bad you guys go rid of that Sony, but they are cheap as chips on Craigslist right now, so maybe if you still want one, one will come up. They run about $50-$150ish out here.


I also just purchased a 32" version with a similar Sony stand (except it has smoked glass doors in front of the shelves) for $125. Sadly, it's not an XBR, but it's a late model Wega w/ DVI, and almost identical as far as version of the 800 model goes. That's in the bedroom, replacing a Sony 32" XBR that had the infrared remote headphones (one of their 1994 black TV's). Sold the black XBR on CL for $130, so it was a good trade.


Post# 488230 , Reply# 6   1/11/2011 at 15:12 (3,745 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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I love the crt tv's. Especially the tube style ones. This is the one we use on a daily basis. Origianlly it was an all tube RCA. But at some point someone pulled out the original rca tv and inserted a mid 80's zenith tv. The stereo is still there and original. Just the tv has been changed out. Works great.

Post# 488238 , Reply# 7   1/11/2011 at 15:52 (3,745 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
Justin,

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Even though the set was changed, you'd never know it if you hadn't said so. Looks showroom minty!

Post# 488243 , Reply# 8   1/11/2011 at 16:11 (3,745 days old) by BugsyJones ()        
I like 'em.

I personally like older cabinet or floor models. They're a piece of furniture to match everything else. I always liked the idea of TV's and Stereos as furniture.

I find new tv's especially flats, as cold and harsh looking.

The good thing about CRT televisions are now, with flats being all the rage, (and misinformed individuals who think they need a brand new tv to get digital transmissions) CRT televisions are DIRT CHEAP! I saw a pretty good size and pretty new CRT set at the thrift store for $30. It was completely working and perfect. I don't need another TV, so I passed by.

My favorite CRT televisions are of course, vintage tube-type. My current love is this semi-rare 1956 Zenith Flash-Matic. I'm in the process of preparing for it's re-cap.

~Tim


Post# 488251 , Reply# 9   1/11/2011 at 16:50 (3,745 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
Tim,

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That is a beautiful set! My Great-Aunt Helen had a Zenith? which was a little bit newer, swiveled, and had a blonde cabinet. I would love to have your set as it would go perfectly with the woodwork in my house.

Post# 488257 , Reply# 10   1/11/2011 at 17:08 (3,745 days old) by austinado16 ()        
That Zenith is fantastic!

I have a 1956 "Airline" that's similar. Here's where it usually lives.


I agree, the CRT's of the last 20 or so years are waaaay too modern for the serious AW type collector with a home full of period stuff. I currently have the big 40" XBR hidden inside a pretty nice cherry wood armoire, so that helps some....although it's like having a huge double-door refrigerator in the living room. But, when I'm watching a movie, I really want excellent picture and sound. The 32" in the bedroom is exposed though. Not much I can do about that due to location and space.

The TV's are really the only modern thing that's "sitting out" in the entire house, so I guess that not too bad.


Post# 488266 , Reply# 11   1/11/2011 at 17:42 (3,745 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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I much prefer what I see with CRT sets vs. the flat screen sets I've seen. From what I've seen, my impressions are the sets are often overly bright. Possibly could be eye tiring if watching long enough. And colors often seem simpler, thinner than CRT.

It sort of reminds me of the early days of CD, when everyone talked about how great CD was with the detail and the quiet background. Yet, what a lot of people didn't notice was that a lot got lost with CD. Musical notes might have been more detailed, but became thinner, less rich.

The only definite minus I see to CRT is the weight and bulk. I constantly move my set away from my audio system whenever I want to listen to music seriously--the speakers sound slightly better with nothing between them. This can be a huge pain, although it's not that bad--I just keep the TV on a cart, and roll that cart away when I want to move the TV.

I think it's possible that I could find a flat screen to like. So far, I've only seen the lower end modern TV sets. Most of which were probably not carefully setup. The only remotely high end model was a Panasonic plasma at Target. I was not impressed, but then again Target is probably not the best place to judge TVs. I'd be surprised if they do any setup past connecting cables, and the store lighting is not like what I'd use at home.

However, even if I could find a flat screen I liked, there is one problem--the price tag. There are many good used CRT sets floating about. The example earlier this thread of $50 buying a $3,500 set is just one example. Not only does my dollar go further, buying used has positive side benefits. It may keep a TV from the landfill, or third rate recyclers a few years. It puts off the impact on the environment of making a new TV. And the money I spend stays in the local economy. At least, until it ends up in the hands of someone who decides to have a buying binge at a "almost everything is made in China!" store like Wal-Mart, Target, or K-Mart.



Post# 488272 , Reply# 12   1/11/2011 at 18:11 (3,745 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
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Post# 488275 , Reply# 13   1/11/2011 at 18:13 (3,745 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        

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Post# 488277 , Reply# 14   1/11/2011 at 18:16 (3,745 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
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Post# 488281 , Reply# 15   1/11/2011 at 18:19 (3,745 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
My Sony Trinitron Portable

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From Circa 1974...It is an exact replica of the one my parents had in the master bedroom when I was a kid

Post# 488283 , Reply# 16   1/11/2011 at 18:36 (3,745 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

I think I have one of the largest CTRs ever made, the 38" 16:9 HD RCA F38310, I think the screen area is bigger than a 40" 4:3 display. Someone else can do the math. Mine weighs in at well over 250lbs too.

As good as the image is on the 38" CRT modern panels will outperform it easily. A properly adjusted panel is simply stunning when fed a good source, just OK on a crappy source.

AS to buying a used CRT, there are only a handful that will properly display an HD signal that is the norm today, anything that down res's the signal is really a poor second or third display wise.


Post# 488285 , Reply# 17   1/11/2011 at 18:39 (3,745 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
Love your '57 GE television!

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Does it have the coaxial oval speaker in it? This big Danish one was complete here in town, until some moron gutted it completely!

Post# 488298 , Reply# 18   1/11/2011 at 19:17 (3,745 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

We have a 36" Wega set we bought about 2002 or so. We really love it. Usually when new technology comes out we try it out. I was all hyped up for HDTV, but then after I saw it and then looked at our WEGA set I thought I'd save the money. But you are right about the weight of these things. Ours is installed in an entertainment center and it takes two strong guys to put it in there.

We watch maybe 8 hours of TV per week. Usually news and documentary type shows. After I saw that when you buy a HDTV you are just getting into the cost of it. Then you have the HDTV feed costs, the surround sound stereo costs, installation costs, etc.

When this WEGA goes (how long do SONY sets usually last?)we'll go to HDTV.


Post# 488303 , Reply# 19   1/11/2011 at 19:26 (3,745 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Well...I have a 36" Sony WEGA Trinitron that look to be made in 2004? I got it on CL and have had it for ~1year. Sure is VERY heavy! It has an awesome picture. When it does fail, I'll have to call a repair man, because it's just too awkward and heavy to move.

Post# 488306 , Reply# 20   1/11/2011 at 19:33 (3,745 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
My 22 inch Trinitron ran strong from

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1991 until last spring almost 20 years! And my WEGA HD 36 inch from 2004 is still going strong it gets lots of use!

But I just saw the new LED's and they are now as bright and fast as my WEGA, BUT that took 6 years for flat panels to catch up, now will the FP's last as long?? I bet my WEGA has another 13 years left in it!


Post# 488308 , Reply# 21   1/11/2011 at 19:46 (3,745 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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I have 3 CRT TV's and nothing else. Picked a 28" CRT off the sidewalk 2 nights ago that had "Free, Works" taped to the screen. It's now in a loving home :)

Post# 488312 , Reply# 22   1/11/2011 at 20:00 (3,745 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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I can understand the HDTV argument, but it's not anything that interests me or concerns me personally at the moment. My highest resolution source is DVD. I still regularly play VHS tapes, even. (Yes, I know VHS is limited. However, the tapes are dirt cheap in thrift shops, and I'm getting a chance to see things I might not otherwise.) I don't watch regular TV--reception is hard where I am at best, and I refuse to pay for cable TV. Blu-Ray won't happen until I'm forced to buy into it, which will probably be when the library drops DVD in favor of Blu-Ray. (Most of my DVD watching is library material.)

Post# 488316 , Reply# 23   1/11/2011 at 20:14 (3,745 days old) by austinado16 ()        

John, you and I have similar points of view.

We still watch VHS too, refuse to "pay" for TV, and only get 2 channels via rabbit ears. The only reason why I bagged the Blue-Ray Disc player was because I thought we might be able to use it to jump online and maybe watch some HULU and catch some episodes of things we don't get. But so far, I'm not impressed.


Post# 488317 , Reply# 24   1/11/2011 at 20:15 (3,745 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Many Persons Have Been Forced To Abandon

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Perfectly working CRT televisions simply for want of signal.

Even with "Rabbit Ear" or other ways of capturing signal over the air, many television stations are moving programming to digital. This means even with those converter things the feds were handing out a year or so ago, some stations and or programs may no longer come though. Prices for LCD and plasma televisions have come down so low, many simply give up the fight.

Only persons around here who pick up CRT televisions kicked to the curb are the "recycle persons". Even there one hears the sound of glass shattering and banging as they simply hack the things to bits in order to get at whatever metal inside.


Post# 488321 , Reply# 25   1/11/2011 at 20:23 (3,745 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Plasma and LCD units have default settings geared toward a "torch" picture. First thing should be done upon putting one into use is dial-back the brightness/contrast/sharpness settings to a more natural level.


Post# 488329 , Reply# 26   1/11/2011 at 20:49 (3,745 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        
My 22 inch Trinitron

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was brought new in 1984 and is still fine (except that the power button is broken, and the remote died in 2004 after 20 years of being dropped).

Post# 488339 , Reply# 27   1/11/2011 at 21:48 (3,745 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Places like thrift stores and our local Habitat for Humanity Restore are getting so many sets in now they'll be needing to refuse accepting them pretty soon. Not too many people want them anymore

Post# 488342 , Reply# 28   1/11/2011 at 22:25 (3,745 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yes I do too. Early 1980s Zenith Chromacolor.

Post# 488352 , Reply# 29   1/12/2011 at 00:16 (3,745 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
zenith chromacolor

i have a big zenith chromacolor console made in 1982,works good
but has a fault in that it does not turn off all the way!
-goes dark when "shut off"but i can still hear the flyback,the
filament remains lit,and get "static"off the screen.
It's an occasional use TV so i just unplug to turn off the
rest of the way...
Sometimes i hook my RCA selectavision CED disc player to it
and watch a movie '82 style LOL(i have a lot of discs for the
CED player,a couple of them"period"rock music videos-can't
get more early '80s than watching "freezeframe"or"abracadabra"
or the like on a CED disc using the above setup!


Post# 488358 , Reply# 30   1/12/2011 at 01:56 (3,745 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
Love your '57 GE television!

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Does it have the coaxial oval speaker in it?

Actually Alan...the little metal grille under the control knobs on the right side of the TV is the speaker. This TV was what GE reffered to as a bookcase model. That means that you could either set it on a book case or a table or a room divider etc. or you could use the optinal stand which mine has to make it look like a console TV. My favorite feature of this TV which has know been made redundant (thanks to the digital switch over) is the power tuner. When you push one of the channel buttons the whole round plate of buttons are rotated by an electric motor. It makes an awesome sound...ta chunk ta chunk ta chunk.....I got this TV back in 1996 from a very dear family friend of ours and I call the TV Norma... in honor of Norma Sharpless...the woman who gave it to me. It had sat in her closet unused since 1967 and was originally her parents TV. I need to have it looked at as I have not used it in a couple of years because it started having intermittent audio issues where the audio would stop all together and to get the audio working again I would have to shut off the TV for about 10 minutes and wait for things to cool off and then turn on the set again. What do you think guys is it a tube issue. In 1996 I had the set gone over by a local TV place that is now gone and they replaced some tubes and fixed the deteriorating wiring. Then in 2000 it was back to the shop for a few more tubes and then in 2004 it started acting up again. I love this TV and I have only ever seen one other just like it. It is a TOL 1958 model that my friend Jay owns that was his grandparents. Jay's has all the bells and whistles including the remote control...(a remote hooked to the TV via a cable was optional on mine but it was not purchased with it)....PAT COFFEY


Post# 488364 , Reply# 31   1/12/2011 at 03:20 (3,745 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

My current set is a CRT machine-a Hitachi High Def rear projector-capable of 1080I reproduction-and well it does.compared to modern plasma and LCD sets-RPTV's have a "soft focus"not the real razor sharp focus Direct veiw LCD and plasma have.the biggest reason you see older TV's being dumpted is analog TV transmitters have signed off-Digital broadcasting only.so if you don't have the convertor-the older analog CRT set is uselesss-unless it has a standard video in.I have on occasion seen them on trashpiles too-mostly the grey or black PLASTIC recent sets-have no interest in these.Like the wood cabs better.and the large number of these direct view analog CRT sets in swap shops.And yes-CRT and other types of RPTV sets are appearing in the second hand market too.I am going to use my Hitachi until it dies.then I will replace it with some sort of plasma set most likely-plasma and CRT are pretty related to each other-both use phosphors to produce the image.

Post# 488371 , Reply# 32   1/12/2011 at 06:22 (3,745 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
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My GE television "collection" consists of a three inch color Space Mate, a nine inch, a fifteen inch, and a white French Provincial ninteen inch black and white with a record player and stereo, similar to the one in this picture. I'm surprised your base for that set doesn't contain some type of speaker, it is still a stunning survivor. Once years ago, we went to a nursery which is still in business in north Stuart FL, their kid was watching a mahogany colored console with power tuning, and the big oval speaker in the bottom. I often wonder if that set is still there!

Post# 488405 , Reply# 33   1/12/2011 at 09:36 (3,745 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Our current daily watcher is a 1979 Zenith Avanti. Picked it up on CL for 50 bucks and a trip to Middleofnowhere, PA.

We think it goes really well with the Anga wall system from Ikea.

veg


Post# 488406 , Reply# 34   1/12/2011 at 09:38 (3,745 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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The Avanti replaced a 1964 Zenith roundie which is now in the collection of a collector in Michigan.

Post# 488408 , Reply# 35   1/12/2011 at 09:51 (3,745 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
Zenith commercial-Rerun of a great ad!

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Remember the Zenith with the curved cabinet? I had a chance to get one, but life wouldn't allow it at the time. The Zenith Avanti is gaining an iconic status, slowly but surely. (At least that's what I choose to believe. I loves me a good Zenith!)


Post# 488431 , Reply# 36   1/12/2011 at 12:00 (3,745 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I don't notice any issues with programs that don't "come through" over the air. I'm using an old-school 60's rooftop antenna that's not even UHF capable and I get lots of channels through the digital-to-analog converter box. It's all hooked up to my 1950 Admiral 10" B&W and the only issues I've seen are those associated with how the images are broadcast. Some are letterboxed and can't be changed, which makes for a very small image on an already small screen. I "zoom" in and crop the images in order to get a full screen display on any channels where it's not pre-set.

I bought a Sony 17" Trinitron in 1977 and for a part of its life it was in daily (almost all day) use. It lasted over 25 years before starting to turn everything pink once in a while. The problem got worse and didn't improve when I tweaked the CRT connections, so I finally unloaded it. Best most reliable TV I ever owned.

I'm currently shopping for a CRT type for our den. The opticals on the Panasonic have become blurry, so it's hard to read a superimposed sports score, etc. It looks like 27" is as large as I'll be able to go due to space limitation on the shelving unit. I'm cruising Craigs List and am confident it will only be a matter of time before I find a replacement.

We have a large flat panel in our master bedroom. Just last night I checked the menu and found that the contrast was set way high. It's much less blinding now that I've turned it down to mid range. Power level was also on highest consumption, so I turned that down to "standard" and the display isn't as bright. I guess they adjust these sets at the factory so they'll burn out quick and you'll have to buy a new one. I recommend that anyone with a flat panel rig to check their settings.


Post# 488464 , Reply# 37   1/12/2011 at 13:45 (3,744 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

No, they are not set to torch mode so they will burn out faster, it's so they grab your attention on the sales floor. People then to gravitate to the sets with the most punch. For years I've used the AVIA disk to set up any display, and there are other DVDs out there that will get the basics down. Video Essentials is another one. These will guide you step by step on properly setting your display. It's not hard, takes 30 minutes or so. the image may seem a little dim to you at first glance but all the disks recommend living with the settings for a week or two, and then tweak if you must.

Post# 488480 , Reply# 38   1/12/2011 at 14:46 (3,744 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I have AVIA, works nicely.


Post# 488489 , Reply# 39   1/12/2011 at 15:10 (3,744 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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This is the tv we have in our living room. It is a Douglas. Before finding this tv I had never heard of Doublas before. Not quite sure who made them though. This is our next project to start working on.

Post# 488491 , Reply# 40   1/12/2011 at 15:11 (3,744 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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The neat thing about this douglas is that the controls for it are on a chairside console with a built in record player. It has a cord that runs about 30 feet from the console to the tv. An early remote control you could say.

Post# 488594 , Reply# 41   1/12/2011 at 23:00 (3,744 days old) by austinado16 ()        

That remote system on your Douglas is pretty amazing. I think you just won the award for most unique vintage TV!

Post# 488623 , Reply# 42   1/13/2011 at 06:10 (3,744 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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I love that Douglas television, and the remote record player setup! I think this has been shown before, but this is part of the Philco Predicta line, which ultimately bankrupted Philco.
(The Tandem)


Post# 488649 , Reply# 43   1/13/2011 at 09:53 (3,744 days old) by austinado16 ()        

Very cool!

Post# 488689 , Reply# 44   1/13/2011 at 13:38 (3,743 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

They still make the Predicta television set. An independent company started this up a few years ago. Pricey, but if you like the vintage look...... Telstar is the companies name.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO whirlcool's LINK


Post# 488691 , Reply# 45   1/13/2011 at 13:46 (3,743 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
sharp internals?

IIRC,the predicta replica used sharp picture tube and circutry
-that was a few years ago,hard to say what they are using
today..


Post# 488694 , Reply# 46   1/13/2011 at 13:50 (3,743 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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My friend Ken in North Carolina sent me info on that outfit years back, before I got my computer. I think they have a great idea there, not totally sure about the product, as I haven't read any long term reviews on them. I imagine they are as good as they claim. And, of course they make everything related to the tube surrounds, cabinets, and fittings, there isn't a single original part from the Philco used at all. And all in color format, I would love to have one. The same friend had two original black and white Princesses, I could have bought one for $150.00. Now you can't touch a decent original for less than $300.00.

Regarding the innards-I believe they used RCA internals for a while.


Post# 488748 , Reply# 47   1/13/2011 at 17:45 (3,743 days old) by countryford (Phoenix, AZ)        

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Predicta. We have one that we picked up a couple years back. It is just the one piece unit that sits on a table or whatever you like. A friend of mine has two, the tandem one as well as the one they called the barber pole.

Post# 488749 , Reply# 48   1/13/2011 at 17:58 (3,743 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Wow, lucky friend! I did see a third table Predicta, the man wanted $350.00 for it, which is cheaper than the Telstars. If I put a lot of money into a television, I'll put it in a Telstar Debutante, instead of a 32 + inch flat screen.

Post# 488755 , Reply# 49   1/13/2011 at 18:37 (3,743 days old) by washernoob ()        
TIM!

TIM!

That royal next to your TV is absolutely positively gorgeous! :)

Really digging these old tubes. Just dont see them too much anymore. Would love to find an old green glass looking philco like Alan posted!


Post# 488758 , Reply# 50   1/13/2011 at 18:59 (3,743 days old) by BugsyJones ()        

I got that Royal at an estate sale for $3. I couldn't just leave it there for that price.

~Tim


Post# 488782 , Reply# 51   1/13/2011 at 20:38 (3,743 days old) by washernoob ()        

WOW! Talk about luck. That bag looks so fresh and the colors are bright. Not bad for a vacuum from the 50s!

Post# 488793 , Reply# 52   1/13/2011 at 21:36 (3,743 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

We have a Sanyo flat screen in the living, but I like my big old Sear's that belonged to my dear mom better.

Post# 488795 , Reply# 53   1/13/2011 at 21:47 (3,743 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I think it's hard to beat a high-quality CRT. My 14-year old Toshiba 34" has deep blacks, and wonderfully warm, accurate colors. There's texture and depth to the picture.

The 10 year old RCA in my bedroom lacks the cinema-like finesse of the Toshiba. The colors, even after careful adjusting with a....crap, what is it called?...it's a DVD that you use to set the color, brightness, contrast, etc., of a CRT's controls for an optimal picture. Anyway, the RCA colors look a little crude and the picture seems flatter in comparison to the Toshiba.

In the end, when they give out, I'll probably be glad to have lightweight TV's I can move around easily. Unless something better comes along, I'll go with plasma.

Speaking of giving out, both my ancient TiVo's are crapping out on me. The one in my bedroom went first, about 2 months ago. The hard drive locked up on it. The one in my family room, in the home theater set-up, needs to be reset every other day, lately. It calls in to get programming information every day, but I keep getting "Failed when loading series" messages. If I unplug it for 30 seconds, then start it up, it'll download information from the next call, but after that, I get the "failed" message again. They've both long outlived their 7-8 year life expectancy, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

The last time I called TiVo's support line, the guy said "Wow! You have two of those first generation things still working? They're practically antiques." The new TiVo's require internet jacks instead of phone lines, and I don't have one in the bedroom or the family room, so I've been trying to nurse my old TiVo's as long as possible. Looks like I'll finally have to break down and call my internet provider to run two new lines for me.

All my home A/V equipment is getting so old. Seems like there's something or other wrong with almost every piece of equipment in the set-up.


Post# 488796 , Reply# 54   1/13/2011 at 21:51 (3,743 days old) by washernoob ()        

Thats one thing that I love about our 52" LCD.

It doesn't weigh ANYTHING! lol. I remember moving a c.a 40" tube TV by myself from my grandpas basement to my brothers house to use for XBox. So we didn't have to play 2 players on his 15" screen!

Holy cow, That thing felt like a zillion pounds. IT was old, had all that extra unnecessary plastic around it, and was about as big as I am!


Post# 488892 , Reply# 55   1/14/2011 at 11:23 (3,743 days old) by JeffG ()        

The only non-CRT we have is on the laptop. Our main TV is a rear projection CRT.

A few years ago a friend stumbled on some Sony F500R CRT computer monitors, they were bought as spares for a corporation and had been sitting unopened in a warehouse for ten years. I took a gamble on one and it's been running great for 3+ years now. LCDs have never heard of black levels like this.


Post# 488940 , Reply# 56   1/14/2011 at 15:52 (3,742 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)        
SONY 34" Kd-34xbr970

We got our SONY 34" FD Trinitron Wega Tv in 2006. At the time digital tuners were just starting to being used commonly in the Hi-Def tv sets. I wanted a set with a tuner, because I didn't want to change my Dish set up for a Hi-Def set up yet.

The SONY is a 1080i High Definition 9 x 16 picture. Consumer Reports rated the picture to be better than plasma or LCD at the time. It is smaller than most sets available now. We still like the picture because it has those deep blacks and overall great color. DVD's really show up great, in fact Bluray at this screen size doesn't do that much. We do have it for streaming netflix though. That is another story, a computer with the HDMI output can actually give you more variety than a Bluray player for streaming Netflix or Hulu.


Post# 488975 , Reply# 57   1/14/2011 at 19:45 (3,742 days old) by austinado16 ()        

Been looking at this exact model for our bedroom TV, but I think it might be too wide for the location.

Post# 489382 , Reply# 58   1/16/2011 at 18:25 (3,740 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)        
Size

This TV is 39" wide 24" deep and 26" high. It weighs 200 pounds so you need help moving it. It also uses about 190 watts, not bad if you compare that to the large sets now for sale. I have seen them for sale on Craig's list occassionally.

You might also check avsforum. Look for display devices. Also there are forums about CRT tvs to read.


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Post# 489467 , Reply# 59   1/17/2011 at 00:28 (3,740 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)        
My Mitsubishi 32" CRT

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I'm quite happy watching my 1998 Mitsubishi 32" console CRT. I watch mostly old T.V. shows on DVD and very little broadcast T.V. so I feel I'm watching the shows the way they were meant to be seen - on the "square" screen. I plan to keep it until it dies. I'm in no hurry to get a flat screen!

Post# 489475 , Reply# 60   1/17/2011 at 01:12 (3,740 days old) by austinado16 ()        

We had an RCA in a console like that. It was free, sitting out on the curb about 2 blocks away. I think it cost 50 bucks to have it repaired and it had the best picture...30-something inches, like maybe 33 or 35. When I found a big XBR with infrared remote headphones to replace it, I couldn't even get $50 for it. Bummed me out.

Martin, thanks for the dims on that XBR970. I thought I'd read that it was 39". And yeah, these are heavy. The 40" is 304lbs and just devastating for 2 people to lift.


Post# 489747 , Reply# 61   1/17/2011 at 23:12 (3,739 days old) by joey3950 ()        
CRT's Rock!!!!!!!!

I have two RCA Home Theater sets, one 35" 1997, and one 36" 1998. Both have"high definition" and are less harsh to watch. 46" Phillips LCD Hi-Def's sound doesen't hold a candle to the Home Theaters. We have discovered government mandated converter boxes are not set up to receive all broadcast channels. Phillips Digital receives channel 57; converter box on CRT's won't stop and pick up channel 57 to memory,so you can't even call up channel 57, not even manually on converterbox remote. NO ONE CAN ANSWER WHY OR HOW CAN THEY PREVENT A STATION FROM BEING RECEIVED BY CONVERTERBOX OWNERS> I receive my broadcasts from a large VHF-UHF antenna with rotor. it's rated for upto 150 miles; I used to get channel 5 CBS from 50 miles away; now with digital, no reception. NO ONE HAS OR WANTS TO SAY WHYNOT!!!

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Post# 489755 , Reply# 62   1/17/2011 at 23:27 (3,739 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

This was my mother's TV, I've had it since 2000 or 2001, and the only thing I had done to it was the chip that controls the volume went out and I paid $80.00 to have it replaced.


Post# 489786 , Reply# 63   1/18/2011 at 03:01 (3,739 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Ch#5 went away from TV broadcast band when it went digital-The frequencies occupied by the old Ch#5 are to be auctioned off by the FCC to the highest bidder like the other low band VHF channels.to sum it up the old Ch#5 and the others below it are no more for TV broadcast-they will go to another service.

Post# 489808 , Reply# 64   1/18/2011 at 07:22 (3,739 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Joey3950

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There are several channels in the NY area you simply cannot access without cable, or someother means. Conveter boxes, built in digital converters, digital ready,VHF-UHF antenna , and the rest all seem not to work.

Last year WLIW suddenly went blank for hundreds, and no one could figure out why. Turns out in a deal with Time Warner and other carriers, the station moved up the digial spectrum in order to get three other channels, leaving the former signal hung out to dry. Many persons including seniors who got those converter boxes, and or are using attenna are now forced to either subscribe to cable to get something they once got for free.



Post# 490227 , Reply# 65   1/19/2011 at 19:31 (3,737 days old) by jasonl ()        
I love old TVs

But I simply cannot take that 60hz interlaced flicker at all anymore. I've gotten so used to LCDs that looking at a CRT computer monitor or tv is downright headache inducing.

I don't think it's so much the frequency but the interlacing. Films are progressive scan and while it's 24fps, it doesn't give me a headache like 480i does.

So, LOVE the old tvs but I'll stick with LCD from now on.





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