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Am I the only one who still likes CRT "tube" TV's? |
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Post# 488206 , Reply# 1   1/11/2011 at 13:29 (4,852 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 488212 , Reply# 2   1/11/2011 at 13:49 (4,852 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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i still like them-i have a 42"lcd and a 42"plasma,but still really enjoy my CRTs as well-newest is an '87,oldest a '57 CRTs have been perfected and refined over the decades. |
Post# 488214 , Reply# 3   1/11/2011 at 14:06 (4,852 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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I just bought a 23 inch Magnavox Total Automatic Color, I have yet to see the picture, I bought the unit mostly for the stereo set and the cabinet. I watch Comcast digital cable on a 9" Zenith color set, I also own a 1987 Zenith 19" stereo color, and a 1987 13" Zenith color. So yes, I will have and watch CRT as long as they work.
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Post# 488219 , Reply# 4   1/11/2011 at 14:32 (4,852 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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I had the exact same set as the one you just picked up. Ours died in July and we ended up getting a 40" Toshiba LCD, and I miss the old Sony so much. The tech that looked at our Sony told me that a circuit board was fried and that a new or reconditioned one was impossible to get. Even if he could have gotten a new board, he couldn't guarantee the part's longevity.
The guy you got your set from is spot on about the price. Ours came from my cousin who wanted a plasma and gave us the Sony, free for the hauling. Those things weigh about 250 lbs, and are beasts to move though. This post was last edited 01/11/2011 at 15:50 |
Post# 488230 , Reply# 6   1/11/2011 at 15:12 (4,852 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)   |   | |
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I love the crt tv's. Especially the tube style ones. This is the one we use on a daily basis. Origianlly it was an all tube RCA. But at some point someone pulled out the original rca tv and inserted a mid 80's zenith tv. The stereo is still there and original. Just the tv has been changed out. Works great.
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Post# 488238 , Reply# 7   1/11/2011 at 15:52 (4,852 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 488251 , Reply# 9   1/11/2011 at 16:50 (4,852 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 488266 , Reply# 11   1/11/2011 at 17:42 (4,852 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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I much prefer what I see with CRT sets vs. the flat screen sets I've seen. From what I've seen, my impressions are the sets are often overly bright. Possibly could be eye tiring if watching long enough. And colors often seem simpler, thinner than CRT.
It sort of reminds me of the early days of CD, when everyone talked about how great CD was with the detail and the quiet background. Yet, what a lot of people didn't notice was that a lot got lost with CD. Musical notes might have been more detailed, but became thinner, less rich. The only definite minus I see to CRT is the weight and bulk. I constantly move my set away from my audio system whenever I want to listen to music seriously--the speakers sound slightly better with nothing between them. This can be a huge pain, although it's not that bad--I just keep the TV on a cart, and roll that cart away when I want to move the TV. I think it's possible that I could find a flat screen to like. So far, I've only seen the lower end modern TV sets. Most of which were probably not carefully setup. The only remotely high end model was a Panasonic plasma at Target. I was not impressed, but then again Target is probably not the best place to judge TVs. I'd be surprised if they do any setup past connecting cables, and the store lighting is not like what I'd use at home. However, even if I could find a flat screen I liked, there is one problem--the price tag. There are many good used CRT sets floating about. The example earlier this thread of $50 buying a $3,500 set is just one example. Not only does my dollar go further, buying used has positive side benefits. It may keep a TV from the landfill, or third rate recyclers a few years. It puts off the impact on the environment of making a new TV. And the money I spend stays in the local economy. At least, until it ends up in the hands of someone who decides to have a buying binge at a "almost everything is made in China!" store like Wal-Mart, Target, or K-Mart. |
Post# 488272 , Reply# 12   1/11/2011 at 18:11 (4,852 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Post# 488275 , Reply# 13   1/11/2011 at 18:13 (4,852 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Post# 488277 , Reply# 14   1/11/2011 at 18:16 (4,852 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Post# 488281 , Reply# 15   1/11/2011 at 18:19 (4,852 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Post# 488285 , Reply# 17   1/11/2011 at 18:39 (4,852 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 488306 , Reply# 20   1/11/2011 at 19:33 (4,852 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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1991 until last spring almost 20 years! And my WEGA HD 36 inch from 2004 is still going strong it gets lots of use!
But I just saw the new LED's and they are now as bright and fast as my WEGA, BUT that took 6 years for flat panels to catch up, now will the FP's last as long?? I bet my WEGA has another 13 years left in it! |
Post# 488308 , Reply# 21   1/11/2011 at 19:46 (4,852 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 488312 , Reply# 22   1/11/2011 at 20:00 (4,852 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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I can understand the HDTV argument, but it's not anything that interests me or concerns me personally at the moment. My highest resolution source is DVD. I still regularly play VHS tapes, even. (Yes, I know VHS is limited. However, the tapes are dirt cheap in thrift shops, and I'm getting a chance to see things I might not otherwise.) I don't watch regular TV--reception is hard where I am at best, and I refuse to pay for cable TV. Blu-Ray won't happen until I'm forced to buy into it, which will probably be when the library drops DVD in favor of Blu-Ray. (Most of my DVD watching is library material.)
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Post# 488317 , Reply# 24   1/11/2011 at 20:15 (4,852 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Perfectly working CRT televisions simply for want of signal.
Even with "Rabbit Ear" or other ways of capturing signal over the air, many television stations are moving programming to digital. This means even with those converter things the feds were handing out a year or so ago, some stations and or programs may no longer come though. Prices for LCD and plasma televisions have come down so low, many simply give up the fight. Only persons around here who pick up CRT televisions kicked to the curb are the "recycle persons". Even there one hears the sound of glass shattering and banging as they simply hack the things to bits in order to get at whatever metal inside. |
Post# 488321 , Reply# 25   1/11/2011 at 20:23 (4,852 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 488329 , Reply# 26   1/11/2011 at 20:49 (4,852 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 488339 , Reply# 27   1/11/2011 at 21:48 (4,852 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Post# 488342 , Reply# 28   1/11/2011 at 22:25 (4,852 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 488358 , Reply# 30   1/12/2011 at 01:56 (4,851 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Does it have the coaxial oval speaker in it?
Actually Alan...the little metal grille under the control knobs on the right side of the TV is the speaker. This TV was what GE reffered to as a bookcase model. That means that you could either set it on a book case or a table or a room divider etc. or you could use the optinal stand which mine has to make it look like a console TV. My favorite feature of this TV which has know been made redundant (thanks to the digital switch over) is the power tuner. When you push one of the channel buttons the whole round plate of buttons are rotated by an electric motor. It makes an awesome sound...ta chunk ta chunk ta chunk.....I got this TV back in 1996 from a very dear family friend of ours and I call the TV Norma... in honor of Norma Sharpless...the woman who gave it to me. It had sat in her closet unused since 1967 and was originally her parents TV. I need to have it looked at as I have not used it in a couple of years because it started having intermittent audio issues where the audio would stop all together and to get the audio working again I would have to shut off the TV for about 10 minutes and wait for things to cool off and then turn on the set again. What do you think guys is it a tube issue. In 1996 I had the set gone over by a local TV place that is now gone and they replaced some tubes and fixed the deteriorating wiring. Then in 2000 it was back to the shop for a few more tubes and then in 2004 it started acting up again. I love this TV and I have only ever seen one other just like it. It is a TOL 1958 model that my friend Jay owns that was his grandparents. Jay's has all the bells and whistles including the remote control...(a remote hooked to the TV via a cable was optional on mine but it was not purchased with it)....PAT COFFEY |
Post# 488371 , Reply# 32   1/12/2011 at 06:22 (4,851 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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My GE television "collection" consists of a three inch color Space Mate, a nine inch, a fifteen inch, and a white French Provincial ninteen inch black and white with a record player and stereo, similar to the one in this picture. I'm surprised your base for that set doesn't contain some type of speaker, it is still a stunning survivor. Once years ago, we went to a nursery which is still in business in north Stuart FL, their kid was watching a mahogany colored console with power tuning, and the big oval speaker in the bottom. I often wonder if that set is still there!
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Post# 488405 , Reply# 33   1/12/2011 at 09:36 (4,851 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)   |   | |
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Post# 488406 , Reply# 34   1/12/2011 at 09:38 (4,851 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)   |   | |
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Post# 488408 , Reply# 35   1/12/2011 at 09:51 (4,851 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 488431 , Reply# 36   1/12/2011 at 12:00 (4,851 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I don't notice any issues with programs that don't "come through" over the air. I'm using an old-school 60's rooftop antenna that's not even UHF capable and I get lots of channels through the digital-to-analog converter box. It's all hooked up to my 1950 Admiral 10" B&W and the only issues I've seen are those associated with how the images are broadcast. Some are letterboxed and can't be changed, which makes for a very small image on an already small screen. I "zoom" in and crop the images in order to get a full screen display on any channels where it's not pre-set.
I bought a Sony 17" Trinitron in 1977 and for a part of its life it was in daily (almost all day) use. It lasted over 25 years before starting to turn everything pink once in a while. The problem got worse and didn't improve when I tweaked the CRT connections, so I finally unloaded it. Best most reliable TV I ever owned. I'm currently shopping for a CRT type for our den. The opticals on the Panasonic have become blurry, so it's hard to read a superimposed sports score, etc. It looks like 27" is as large as I'll be able to go due to space limitation on the shelving unit. I'm cruising Craigs List and am confident it will only be a matter of time before I find a replacement. We have a large flat panel in our master bedroom. Just last night I checked the menu and found that the contrast was set way high. It's much less blinding now that I've turned it down to mid range. Power level was also on highest consumption, so I turned that down to "standard" and the display isn't as bright. I guess they adjust these sets at the factory so they'll burn out quick and you'll have to buy a new one. I recommend that anyone with a flat panel rig to check their settings. |
Post# 488480 , Reply# 38   1/12/2011 at 14:46 (4,851 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 488489 , Reply# 39   1/12/2011 at 15:10 (4,851 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 488491 , Reply# 40   1/12/2011 at 15:11 (4,851 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 488594 , Reply# 41   1/12/2011 at 23:00 (4,851 days old) by austinado16 ()   |   | |
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That remote system on your Douglas is pretty amazing. I think you just won the award for most unique vintage TV! |
Post# 488623 , Reply# 42   1/13/2011 at 06:10 (4,850 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 488649 , Reply# 43   1/13/2011 at 09:53 (4,850 days old) by austinado16 ()   |   | |
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Very cool! |
Post# 488689 , Reply# 44   1/13/2011 at 13:38 (4,850 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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They still make the Predicta television set. An independent company started this up a few years ago. Pricey, but if you like the vintage look...... Telstar is the companies name. CLICK HERE TO GO TO whirlcool's LINK |
Post# 488691 , Reply# 45   1/13/2011 at 13:46 (4,850 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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IIRC,the predicta replica used sharp picture tube and circutry -that was a few years ago,hard to say what they are using today.. |
Post# 488694 , Reply# 46   1/13/2011 at 13:50 (4,850 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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My friend Ken in North Carolina sent me info on that outfit years back, before I got my computer. I think they have a great idea there, not totally sure about the product, as I haven't read any long term reviews on them. I imagine they are as good as they claim. And, of course they make everything related to the tube surrounds, cabinets, and fittings, there isn't a single original part from the Philco used at all. And all in color format, I would love to have one. The same friend had two original black and white Princesses, I could have bought one for $150.00. Now you can't touch a decent original for less than $300.00.
Regarding the innards-I believe they used RCA internals for a while. |
Post# 488748 , Reply# 47   1/13/2011 at 17:45 (4,850 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 488749 , Reply# 48   1/13/2011 at 17:58 (4,850 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 488755 , Reply# 49   1/13/2011 at 18:37 (4,850 days old) by washernoob ()   |   | |
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TIM! That royal next to your TV is absolutely positively gorgeous! :) Really digging these old tubes. Just dont see them too much anymore. Would love to find an old green glass looking philco like Alan posted! |
Post# 488758 , Reply# 50   1/13/2011 at 18:59 (4,850 days old) by BugsyJones ()   |   | |
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I got that Royal at an estate sale for $3. I couldn't just leave it there for that price. ~Tim |
Post# 488782 , Reply# 51   1/13/2011 at 20:38 (4,850 days old) by washernoob ()   |   | |
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WOW! Talk about luck. That bag looks so fresh and the colors are bright. Not bad for a vacuum from the 50s! |
Post# 488793 , Reply# 52   1/13/2011 at 21:36 (4,850 days old) by autowasherfreak ()   |   | |
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We have a Sanyo flat screen in the living, but I like my big old Sear's that belonged to my dear mom better. |
Post# 488795 , Reply# 53   1/13/2011 at 21:47 (4,850 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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I think it's hard to beat a high-quality CRT. My 14-year old Toshiba 34" has deep blacks, and wonderfully warm, accurate colors. There's texture and depth to the picture.
The 10 year old RCA in my bedroom lacks the cinema-like finesse of the Toshiba. The colors, even after careful adjusting with a....crap, what is it called?...it's a DVD that you use to set the color, brightness, contrast, etc., of a CRT's controls for an optimal picture. Anyway, the RCA colors look a little crude and the picture seems flatter in comparison to the Toshiba. In the end, when they give out, I'll probably be glad to have lightweight TV's I can move around easily. Unless something better comes along, I'll go with plasma. Speaking of giving out, both my ancient TiVo's are crapping out on me. The one in my bedroom went first, about 2 months ago. The hard drive locked up on it. The one in my family room, in the home theater set-up, needs to be reset every other day, lately. It calls in to get programming information every day, but I keep getting "Failed when loading series" messages. If I unplug it for 30 seconds, then start it up, it'll download information from the next call, but after that, I get the "failed" message again. They've both long outlived their 7-8 year life expectancy, so I guess I shouldn't complain. The last time I called TiVo's support line, the guy said "Wow! You have two of those first generation things still working? They're practically antiques." The new TiVo's require internet jacks instead of phone lines, and I don't have one in the bedroom or the family room, so I've been trying to nurse my old TiVo's as long as possible. Looks like I'll finally have to break down and call my internet provider to run two new lines for me. All my home A/V equipment is getting so old. Seems like there's something or other wrong with almost every piece of equipment in the set-up. |
Post# 488975 , Reply# 57   1/14/2011 at 19:45 (4,849 days old) by austinado16 ()   |   | |
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Been looking at this exact model for our bedroom TV, but I think it might be too wide for the location. |
Post# 489467 , Reply# 59   1/17/2011 at 00:28 (4,847 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)   |   | |
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Post# 489755 , Reply# 62   1/17/2011 at 23:27 (4,846 days old) by autowasherfreak ()   |   | |
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This was my mother's TV, I've had it since 2000 or 2001, and the only thing I had done to it was the chip that controls the volume went out and I paid $80.00 to have it replaced. |
Post# 489808 , Reply# 64   1/18/2011 at 07:22 (4,845 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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There are several channels in the NY area you simply cannot access without cable, or someother means. Conveter boxes, built in digital converters, digital ready,VHF-UHF antenna , and the rest all seem not to work.
Last year WLIW suddenly went blank for hundreds, and no one could figure out why. Turns out in a deal with Time Warner and other carriers, the station moved up the digial spectrum in order to get three other channels, leaving the former signal hung out to dry. Many persons including seniors who got those converter boxes, and or are using attenna are now forced to either subscribe to cable to get something they once got for free. |