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GE Extra Large tub and Straight 8-Vane agitator Video...WILLING TO PAY!!!
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Post# 490798   1/22/2011 at 15:56 (4,835 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

I know the straight 8-vane ACTIVATOR 18 agitator is not popular, but I'll pay someone who'll take the time and make a full load, 'WASH-RINSE and SPIN' video for me. Mostly without the filter-flo pan to see the washing action.




Post# 490897 , Reply# 1   1/23/2011 at 00:49 (4,835 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Come on guys, not even "FOR PAY"?

Post# 491115 , Reply# 2   1/23/2011 at 20:49 (4,834 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

REALLY?!?...No one interested...I repeat, I'll PAY.

Post# 491124 , Reply# 3   1/23/2011 at 21:36 (4,834 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
activator 18

can you describe this agitator-i'm thinking my 1980 hotpoint might have
this agitator,does it have 4 main straight vanes in white plastic?
This hotpoint has a 1/2hp motor,so i'm thinking it must be 18 lb capacity
machine is all drained and stashed away for the winter,so i won't be able
to look at it right away...


Post# 491131 , Reply# 4   1/23/2011 at 21:59 (4,834 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

here is a pick of the Heavy Duty 18 ACTIVATOR (straight 8-vane) agitator

Post# 491136 , Reply# 5   1/23/2011 at 22:13 (4,834 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        

that does look a lot like the one in my hotpoint-as soon as we get enough
of a thaw that i can get into my storage i will have a look!


Post# 491146 , Reply# 6   1/23/2011 at 22:53 (4,834 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

I believe your 80's Hotpoint may have the 2-in-1 white, straight 4-vane HEAVY DUTY agitator with a HANDWASH low-ribbed separate agitator.

Post# 491150 , Reply# 7   1/23/2011 at 23:23 (4,834 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
hotpoint agitators

It might-i searched GE/HP agitators and i'm thinking mine might have the
"straight-4"agitator or the 2-in-1-i'll have to check that out!


Post# 491151 , Reply# 8   1/23/2011 at 23:37 (4,834 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Where have you searched?

Post# 491154 , Reply# 9   1/23/2011 at 23:56 (4,834 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
searchalator

i just entered "straight-8"in the searchaltor and several threads came up
with this agitator-seems a lot of people don't really care for it's
performance LOL


Post# 491164 , Reply# 10   1/24/2011 at 00:41 (4,834 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

I know, it's not popular. The high ramp (swirl) ACTIVATOR really is the best of the GE agitators. In fact, it's really capable of washing up to its 18 pound claim.
A 1972 GE washer is my next washer I hope to find and own.
FMOE, I remember the straight 8-vane agitator turning over some extra large to super large (extra water usage) loads I've washed.
Videos of the straight 8-vane will be reminders of what fun, (maybe little), I'll have with it.
I love its look.
Again since it's not popular with club, I'm willing to pay for the videos...Really.


Post# 491165 , Reply# 11   1/24/2011 at 00:46 (4,834 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)        
Here's a video on youtube....

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It's the best I could come up with lol.

 

 



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Post# 491169 , Reply# 12   1/24/2011 at 01:22 (4,834 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Cool, I've seen this one also, have it in my washer video collection. This has the straight 6-vane agitator with standard large washtub.

Post# 491181 , Reply# 13   1/24/2011 at 03:07 (4,833 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

One of the washers my Mom had was a GE with that same straight blade agitator shown in StrongEnough78 link.Presently I have another washer added to my collection-My favorite
WP-KN dual action BD machine died-transmission locked up solid.You try to start it-trips the breaker.I could not even turn the transmision pulley with a wrench on the mounting nut for the pulley.so the swap shop took it away-gone to washer heaven I am afraid-and replaced it with a Hotpoint washer that has the ramp bladed agitator-forgot how splashy these were-and the turnover-circulation is very good-I would like to get one of those straight bladed agitaotrs to try in it.Probably Mr. Dixon has one around in his junk box in the back of his shop.In the mantime ask Mr. Dixon if any more WP-KNs BD have come in-so far none.They are drying up around here-He has LOTS of DD WP-KN BLENDER washers though.I sort of remember the straight blade agitator in Moms machine was pretty splashy ,too.Hers also had the blue plastic lint dish.and further back in time-early 60's remember a blue GE washer in an AFB house that had a copper colored METAL lint pan.-and a straight blade agitator.


Post# 491202 , Reply# 14   1/24/2011 at 06:45 (4,833 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

The straight 8 or 6 vane ACTIVATOR agitators could never have turnover circulation like the spiral ramps. The 'spiral swirl' ramp are designed to pull down and lift the loads up and over better. They are also capable of washing more clothes...much more.
The dual action agitators, best example, all circulate washloads better and wash more clothes than the straight vane agitators.
I don't compare them, the spiral vane will always out-do the straight vane...always.


Post# 491213 , Reply# 15   1/24/2011 at 09:48 (4,833 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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for straight vane activators....I always preferred this one....they could stir some water at any level.....

CLICK HERE TO GO TO yogitunes's LINK


Post# 491222 , Reply# 16   1/24/2011 at 11:08 (4,833 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Hey Martin,

cool video, too bad it isn't longer...actually the last GE I owned had the straight 4-vane Activator agitator but, I swapped it for the original straight 8-vane. I felt the large base vanes were too high or tall and might hinder usable tub space...you would not be able to wash big loads. Am I wrong?


Post# 491223 , Reply# 17   1/24/2011 at 11:19 (4,833 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Here is the straight 4-vane Activator... looks nice.

Post# 491226 , Reply# 18   1/24/2011 at 11:30 (4,833 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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between the two, I prefer the white one, I used the turquoise one once, and felt it did not move the clothes around as I had hoped, considering the larger tub and 8 vanes it offered......then along came the 4 vane, with higher base fins, and this handled loads with ease, especially greasy work clothes......

I have acquired several GE's, all with the swirl activators, one with a Hotpoint swirl with the handwash underneath, but only fits the small tub tranny in the large capacity machine.....I would like to find one like you dsplayed just to have one machine different


Post# 491229 , Reply# 19   1/24/2011 at 11:51 (4,833 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Four Vane

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Post# 491248 , Reply# 20   1/24/2011 at 14:44 (4,833 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
No contest, but they're all pretty

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The straight-4 activator came in both blue and white depending on the age of the machine. And while they were a bit of an improvement over the straight-8, neither could match the efficacy of the spiral ramped model. I still contend that all the straight-vaned activators were designed to improve performance of the mini basket at the expense of the main tub. We owned a 1978 model Filter-flo with a straight-4 and I used my father's hacksaw to remove the upper vanes of the activator; it actually improved performance a little because the upper vanes created currents that worked against rollover. When I found a spiral ramp activator and exchanged it the results were absolutely no-contest. I wish I had a video to prove this but am working on it, as soon as I can find a "straight-6" or an extra-large Filter-flo.

 

I was very much annoyed when GE got rid of its trademark rubber activator head. The minimal ones on the late models really made the whole thing look cheap. That was Jack Welch shaving every penny off of every possible department as he happily fired employees right and left. Mrs. Welch, of course, was able to use the company helicopter every weekend for shopping trips; can't deny the pigs their luxuries now, can we? Wasn't too sorry for her when I heard he dumped her for Mrs. 3rd.


Post# 491263 , Reply# 21   1/24/2011 at 15:49 (4,833 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

I guess everyone who own a GE extra large capacity washer got rid of their straight 8 and or 4 vane Activators and replaced them with spiral ramps.
So, the VIDEO is out of the question.
Sure I'd use the spiral ramp as well, especially for SUPER LARGE washloads... but, I would also use the straight 8 and or 4 vane just to change it up a bit and play with them.


Post# 491272 , Reply# 22   1/24/2011 at 16:11 (4,833 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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You know Harry.....we have gone over and over looking for videos of machines with a full water level and load....and then we come to realize reality behind this, with a full load and water level, turnover is slowed down drastically, and I find myself only washing medium or large loads, never at the ExLarge setting, just to get vigorous wash action to ensure the load is turned over and scrubbed...so call me slow, yet I never rode the short bus...lol....

but this comes back to wanting largest capacity, they increase the size of the tub, but only the post of the agitator is increased in height, not the vanes to handle the larger load......also take direct drive machines, the tranny was designed for original DeSign2000 2.5 size tub, and then came the larger capacities up to super, and you have to wonder why some of these burn out too soon, why wasn't the tranny increased to handle the extra load....this comming from one of the repair guys at Sears.....just food for thought


Post# 491276 , Reply# 23   1/24/2011 at 16:45 (4,833 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

You're right Martin, I regularly use the MEDIUM (small) and LARGE (medium) settings on the 712. You know I never knew it was possible to actually see photos and videos of my favorite washer (Maytag POWER-FIN, GM Frigidaire JET CONE), Westinghouse 2-in-1 SWIRL-RAMP, GE's...) until I found the club. This may sound strange but, I learned about viewing washing machine on YouTube from the club. I maybe a little slow as well, but I get it.

Post# 491281 , Reply# 24   1/24/2011 at 18:33 (4,833 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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My 4 vane was used only for the mini-basket. Like many here, I had an unfounded prejudice against the 4 vane. So one day last year, Harry, at your prompting, I did an experiment, and was shocked at how well the 4 vane performs.

 

Moving large beach towels in and out of the tub using the Visimatic wringer, I switched the agitators, at small medium large and extra large, testing one, then two, then three, finally four really enormous towels, using both agitators at all four levels. Although the turnover patterns and water sounds were different, both agitators did a visibly competent job.

 

Just last week I washed a huge mixed dark winter load using the 4 vane, but I replaced it with the ramp for the rinse, and this time, with this load, the 4 vane did a better job. The only thing that came to mind was that the wash water was warm with the 4 vane performing wonderfully, and the rinse water was very cold with the ramp and one pair of lined nylon gym pants had a stubborn bubble. I should have given the rinse more time and maybe the load would have smoothed out; three minutes was not enough.

 

After the first test, I shook my head at how dumb I had been to think that, after decades of vigorous activators , GE would insert an incompetent performer. They did not. When I get to it, I will figure out where this prejudice came from. I can't adequately convey how utterly stunned I was to learn the power of the 4 vane. And now after this accidental test, the 4 vane won the prize, though the test was accidentally rigged in its favor--softer warmer water and longer turnover time.


Post# 491285 , Reply# 25   1/24/2011 at 19:29 (4,833 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

That's awesome and really cool, Mickeyd...now I'm so siked to learn about power of the straight 4-vane ACTIVATOR agitator. Four really enormous beach towels and a huge mixed load performing wonderfully is excellent. I've seen the video of your '77 GE extra large capacity washer with the turquoise straight 4-vane briefly dimenstrating the mini basket wash action...nice. I also feel teased (LOL), thanks Mickeyd for the AWESOME news.

Post# 491392 , Reply# 26   1/25/2011 at 09:28 (4,832 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Don't worry, we'll get a video of these to you somehow. If nothing else than to prove all of ourselves wrong.

 

And here's how you "pimp-up" your Straight-4 for those who asked:


Post# 491426 , Reply# 27   1/25/2011 at 13:27 (4,832 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
Hey guys....

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I have always had a quiet fascination with GE Filter-Flo washers. I was not aware of the variety of agitators. Yes, I knew we had the ramp activators and some with straight vanes, but I didn't know how many different versions there were.

Can someone write up a list of the different activators? I would be really curious to know about them all.

Thanks!

Gordon


Post# 491437 , Reply# 28   1/25/2011 at 14:35 (4,832 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Wow Gordon....you got me thinking about all the ones available, I'll start a list and any I am missing hopefully someone will pitch in.....although pics would describe them best

Standard/Regular/Small Capacity
solid tub-
3 straight vanes

perforated tubs-
V12 first roto swirl...vanes all the way to the top but tapered off--3 vanes
V14..V16...both started out with a rotoswirl but extended vanes up to the top--3 vanes....also 3 straight vanes, and a 6 vane--this one had 3 vanes up to the top from the base, and 3 more vanes at the lower part of the base

18lbs machine....also known as ExLarge/Large capacity
....standard rotoswirl...3 vanes...extended up to the top
4 vane w/ extended wings half way up.......and a 8 vane...4 vanes all the way to the top, and 4 more at the base

these could have been in black, turquoise, or white

capacities names have changed thru the years, but there were only 2 actually...

rotoswirls were coned shape = less capacity
straight vanes were a straight tube = more capacity

If I am correct, with the exception to the solid tub and the first V12 activator, all should have been available for a mini-basket

there were also a variety of filter pans, mainly sizes.....
if it was the smaller capacity, all activators had a wider center post, which equaled a small diameter pan.........larger capacity had a narrow center post, but a much larger pan...as years progressed, about 1975, all machines took the same narrow center post pan, and the pans came in 2 size widths, which really depended on the minibasket provided......

its simple to see capacity from older machines, via money shot, by the width of the center post......harder to tell in machines built since 75/78, all rotoswirls, just in two heights

I'm sure I am missing something here....or I have you more confused


Post# 491449 , Reply# 29   1/25/2011 at 16:05 (4,832 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Thanks Martin!!

That's really neat information. My Grandmother had a 1973/1974-ish GE, I'm thinking something like a WWA5500 or 5600. I am fairly sure it was a standard capacity, 3 straight vanes on the side, but I don't know what it had on the bottom of the agitator. I do remember the small filter pan with the wide center.

I suspect that in the next year or two, I'll be rescuing a FF for my collection.

Gordon


Post# 491461 , Reply# 30   1/25/2011 at 16:50 (4,832 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I started out with 2, a daily driver for fun and a spare.....and just recently acquired 4 more, one is just for parts, too far gone to repair.....but this is one of the last FF made, it has the large capacity tub, but a small capacity tranny, and included the Hotpoint agitator in an agitator, Handwash replaced Miniwash, and of course the infamous Rim-Flo, so I made trade the control panel for one of the others, I like the white on white, the new slanted top, and 12 cycle electronic control.....

and yes, you may have to add one to the collection, I never liked these machines, even the one Mom had that wouldn't die....and now I can get enough of playtime....I think its the controls/cycles and the MiniBasket that makes them fun......plus the filter flo adds drama, with or without the pan....


Post# 491555 , Reply# 31   1/25/2011 at 23:33 (4,832 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

This is the 1972 GE Americana Washer I hope to be my next find...WASH/SOAK TEMPERATURE...the complete word Hot, Warm and Cold instead of abbreviations...

Post# 491556 , Reply# 32   1/25/2011 at 23:37 (4,832 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

...Timed Bleach Dispenser and Timed Fabric Softener Dispenser...so cool

Post# 491558 , Reply# 33   1/25/2011 at 23:41 (4,832 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

With THIS Extra Large Capacity washtub (WIDEST tub)...notice different perforated HOLE pattern...YESSS!!!

Post# 491559 , Reply# 34   1/25/2011 at 23:43 (4,832 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

And, of course, looking forward to those videos.

Post# 492010 , Reply# 35   1/28/2011 at 01:49 (4,829 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Greg (gansky1), posted a (quickie) video on YouTube of a '69 GE washer with a straight 6-vane Activator agitator...it's not the high ramp action but, the turnover is pretty good...the straight 6-vane is really moving the load...and it looks full...check it out.

Post# 492105 , Reply# 36   1/28/2011 at 13:25 (4,829 days old) by doug (West Virgina)        

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Hi to the person who has the ge filter flo americana washer with the turquise 8 straight vane agitator, i am a ge filter flo washer collector and im new to the website and i was wondering if u could send me some pics of the ge filter flo's u have particulary the americana model just a couple pics of the inside that includes the bleach and fabric softner dispenser in some pics, also maybe some of the cycles, i would love to have a filter flo like this it looks to be a nice 1...u could send the pics to my email which is dougieb12@aol.com

Post# 492291 , Reply# 37   1/28/2011 at 22:19 (4,829 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Can someone write up a list of the different activators? I would be really curious to know about them all.

 

To the best of my knowledge here's the extent of the perforated tub activators up to about 1980. I won't do the capless activators because I think they're not worthy. First, the spirals: 


Post# 492292 , Reply# 38   1/28/2011 at 22:21 (4,829 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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...then the straighties:


Post# 492525 , Reply# 39   1/29/2011 at 22:03 (4,828 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Did anyone else check out the '69 GE straight 6 in action on youtube?


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